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HOW LONG DO WE HAVE BEFORE THE GULF FLOOR COLLAPSES?

 
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Interesting theory...

If the sea floor collapsed:
1) I'd think that tsunami could be even bigger. How large are these underground oil reserves? How deep do they go.. would the water rush in... as the oil rushes out?
2) tsunami would be horrible, but a collapse and cracking open of the sea floor.. would just open up the earth to let hundreds of millions of gallons of oil escape, with no possible means to stop it. Are the world's oceans at risk?
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People seemed to have forgotten, that mud and water has always been pumped into oil wells to equalize the well. Without water and mud being pumped into the well, then there is a great vacuum being created. 100,000 gallons a day. Is that today's estimate? Or is it higher now? Can some mathmatician figure this up for us? How big is the space beneath the ocean? How much will collapse?

Once it collapses, it will cause a tidal wave.

Be aware of this danger gulf residents. You don't just have the benezene to worry about, or the oil rain, or the oil hurricanes, or the oily beaches. You have a great risk of being hit by a huge tidal wave.
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Vacuum you say... then where does it get so much pressure to actually overcome pressure of the water in the gulf?


The question also is - how much oil is left, and how will it affect the sea level in the end .
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Long time. Real long. You'll be dead long before it happens.



Uh, you know the sea floor is about 1000 ft of mud and soft debris don't you?

It will collapse very easily, displace about a volumetric mile or two and cause a 50 ft tidal surge that will travel 15 miles inland, or worse.


And it will be a surge, not a wave, because of the deformation of the sea floor and the volume displaced.

The wave will probably dissipate past Galveston-Pensacola, but some of the inlet bays from Texas to Tampa could be hit by significant wave heights.

20,000 dead at least. Probably 40-50,000 dead.

Kiss New Orleans good bye forever.
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You think it will reach central fl.? If it is like a sinkhole..the water at the beach is going to recede but not all of it is coming back because it went to the hole..right????
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No vacuum. Formation is under pressure high enough to force the oil and gas out against the column of water. Oil will flow until pressure equalizes, then stop. No vacuum. Water or CO2 are sometimes, not always, sometimes pumped into the formation to maintain oil flow, not to keep the earth's crust from collapsing.

Thanks for the reality check, 983511.
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Exactly. Doomtards wrong again!
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06/02/2010 09:33 AM
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would be weird if all of these end time prophecys would now quickly come true only because of this one oilplatform!

that just wouldnt make sense
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Nothing makes sense anymore and ANYTHING is possible.
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Doesn't there have to be a second well head to pump water back in? If so, where is it?
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could an event such as the hypothesized result in a third of the worlds navy being sunk?
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no bible bashers around when you need them......
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Never thought of this. Interesting theory. There is a lot of bogus stuff floating around about the oil leak but this is a legitimate question imo.



Yes, usually oil fields are filled back with water or gas. This is why you get production rates of a few thousand barrels a day from productive controlled wells.

This is a completely unleashed well. Out of control- will belch until it collapses or pressure is gone. No water and gas going back into the deposit cavern.

Big deposit cavern being pressed by miles of material from above, changing the geology of the area for miles.

BTW the Knock Nevis was a 1500 foot long ship. Imagine 10 of those being released, thats what has already happened. Now heap another 20 on top of them, thats what will happen by August before the well is under control.


My guess is the well is unsaveable. For thousands of feet high pressure sand, gas, rock, and oil lubricating this mess are blasting out of the earth. The well itself is compromised in likely hundreds of sections.

This is now a hole in the ground that will grow in size proportionally with the pressure being exerted by the well.


Chunks of the well pipe will likely start blowing out- perhaps they are? Only BP and the USG know for certain.

Sometime in the future, (weeks, months?) the well will fracture at where the mud and hard earth meet. This will short term stop the leaking of the deposit. Oil will compress under the few hundred to few thousand feet of mud and sand at the Sea bed until eventually, almost like an oil pimple the soft sea bed gives way and hundreds of millions of gallons of Oil and Gas are released instantly.

This will probably happen before the deposit collapses though, so that may be a warning, but again this is like trying to predict EQ's and Volcanoes. Only BP and the USG know for certain.

After more chaotic volume displacements, there might be a few tremors before the deposit sinks in, causing the Tidal Wave.

This is the best I can think of.
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would be weird if all of these end time prophecys would now quickly come true only because of this one oilplatform!

that just wouldnt make sense


Nothing makes sense anymore and ANYTHING is possible.
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YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!
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I wonder just how big that pocket is becoming. Considering the amount released, and that is is going to continue releasing for awhile...a 100' drop in the sea floor would produce a 100' wave wouldn't it???

I imagine the pocket is far bigger than 100' tall.

tidal wave takes out all the gulf states and new madrid 2 takes out the midwest...making yellowstone go off, now that's some MAJOR DOOM....woohoo...



Think volume.

The volume of the material that has left the deposit so far is at most about 5 ft tall by 20 square miles.

Now multiply that by 4. But we also need to add in explosive methane release. That will displace another cubic mile or so of volume from the water.


So far we have enough water displaced from the sea floor to cause a large tidal surge, I would say rough estimate 50 feet.

BP knows the Geology so they could probably give a better estimate.

The Government knows, and if they don't start telling people in the region what can happen this Government will be in jail before year's end. Unless they start a war first, which is what Rahm is obviously trying to do.

Stay sharp kiddos.
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Jail? They'll be in jail? Not one person at NORAD after 911 or your Gov. etc. has gone to jail, let alone being hung for crimes against humanity, war crimes etc. So nobody will be going to jail this time either. Incidentally, did you mean going to jail before or after the tidal wave hits? TPTB will have scurried off into their DUMBs or to their estates in Paraguay and elsewhere long before this thing really blows sky high. Jail. Hah!
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bump and PIN
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When all the extra weight of all the ships in the region leave.. and all seems quiet.. then the sudden collapse, splitting the mississippi river wide open allowing the Lake Michigan to flow into the gulf, which will cause Lake Superior to punch through, and, well... you can imagine the rest....

Kinda like Edger Casey's map of the N.America???

When this scenario was given, noone could see how this might happen...

Today, it's looking all too real...

My guess, full moon in the near future coupled with a vast solar flare pushing mega material at the Earth would be things to watch for for the disturbance to begin to come to pass.
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A double-whammy, so to speak, as it is above so shall it be below.
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isnt water already filling the void????? wtf
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People seemed to have forgotten, that mud and water has always been pumped into oil wells to equalize the well. Without water and mud being pumped into the well, then there is a great vacuum being created. 100,000 gallons a day. Is that today's estimate? Or is it higher now? Can some mathmatician figure this up for us? How big is the space beneath the ocean? How much will collapse?

Once it collapses, it will cause a tidal wave.

Be aware of this danger gulf residents. You don't just have the benezene to worry about, or the oil rain, or the oil hurricanes, or the oily beaches. You have a great risk of being hit by a huge tidal wave.

No vacuum. Formation is under pressure high enough to force the oil and gas out against the column of water. Oil will flow until pressure equalizes, then stop. No vacuum. Water or CO2 are sometimes, not always, sometimes pumped into the formation to maintain oil flow, not to keep the earth's crust from collapsing.


Thanks for the reality check, 983511.

What a bunch of fucking idiots on this blog...get educated you ass holes, arm chair engineers and obama black lovers

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Re: HOW LONG DO WE HAVE BEFORE THE GULF FLOOR COLLAPSES?
serious question, does oil replace itself like our blood when we give blood?
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Re: HOW LONG DO WE HAVE BEFORE THE GULF FLOOR COLLAPSES?
The whole sea floor wont collapse!

But perhaps some smaller or larger parts will? That wont create a tsunami but ALL of that oil downthere will come out and ALL of that methane also! In a matter of hours it would fill the whole gulf with oil and shit.

The amount of gases will be so large that it will probably explode also? Now, that might create a freaky tsunami also... but the I doubt anyone in the area are still alive after the blast so that shouldnt worry ya! hiding

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