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BP makes second attempt to cut off riser

 
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What's the POV from ABC news feed? Does anybody know?
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I just came in, sorry I am late. Did flow increase, are they admitting this?
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YES alot, and 2nd question..No!
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The assumption that the blade is 'pinched' is not based on anything. The cut had not progressed far enough to let the riser flex at all.

I am not saying the riser is pinching it. I am saying the drill stem inside the riser may be coming up since flow has increased so drastically.

strictly speculation.
 Quoting: Freethinker

You could be right. It is possibly pressure from the drill.
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What I don’t get is anyone who knows how to do steal demo work knows that you start your cut the opposite side of you pressure. That way as you cut the weight of the pipe will open up your cut and not pinch you blade.

As soon as I saw how they were cutting this I knew it was going to get stuck.

They need some people with common sense n that control room instead of the bumbling book smart idiots they have now.

They are likely to make things really messed up if they keep this up.

They did it exactly right. The bent-over riser is opposit the saw. That will cause the riser to fall AWAY from the bot.
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Anonymous Coward 988478, From what I can see they came in from the side of the bend.
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BreakingNews

Coast Guard says saw has become stuck in riser pipe in latest effort to contain Gulf oil spill

BreakingNews

Coast Guard: Crews shooting chemicals underwater to disperse Gulf oil leaking out of new cut
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Can you imagine all the screaming going on in the control room.
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Ooo.. multifeed on ABC.

[link to abcnews.go.com]
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06/02/2010 10:28 AM
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I am not sure, but it is entirely possible that the drill stem is being lifted and this is what is pinching the blade. They started the cut on the "uphill" side of the riser, it should have been a simple matter to drop the lines supporting the horizontal section of riser to allow the kerf to open and unpinch the blade.

I think the stem is rising, pinching the blade inside the cut.

just a guess.


The assumption that the blade is 'pinched' is not based on anything. The cut had not progressed far enough to let the riser flex at all.

I am not saying the riser is pinching it. I am saying the drill stem inside the riser may be coming up since flow has increased so drastically.

strictly speculation.
 Quoting: Freethinker


I agree that is a possibility, but the drill stem would have had to be cut almost clear through to do that. I suppose if it was crammed up against that wall nearest the blade....
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many, many years from now, there will be an unbelievable story, a great legend of a huge diamond saw resting at the bottom of the sea in the Gulf of Mexico. there will be maps marked with an spam.DEADs of tragedy and misfortune that befall those who seek it. it will be told that various small metallic creatures are at its side, guarding and protecting it. many seek but none find. just blackness.
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has there been any significant developments in the last 8 hours?
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What I don’t get is anyone who knows how to do steal demo work knows that you start your cut the opposite side of you pressure. That way as you cut the weight of the pipe will open up your cut and not pinch you blade.

As soon as I saw how they were cutting this I knew it was going to get stuck.

They need some people with common sense n that control room instead of the bumbling book smart idiots they have now.

They are likely to make things really messed up if they keep this up.

They did it exactly right. The bent-over riser is opposit the saw. That will cause the riser to fall AWAY from the bot.



Anonymous Coward 988478, From what I can see they came in from the side of the bend.
 Quoting: MrObrserver 947555


All sarcasm aside, they are not that stupid.
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[link to www.bp.com]

[link to edition.cnn.com]

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Can you imagine all the screaming going on in the control room.
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I got a pic in Main control HQ center.
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06/02/2010 10:31 AM
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Re: BP makes second attempt to cut off riser
breaking its stuck

the saw that is


Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen says a saw has become stuck in a riser piper, stalling the latest attempt to contain the Gulf oil gusher, the Associated Press reports.

Allen said the goal is to free the saw and finish the cut later today. This is the second major cut in the effort to contain the spill.
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I wonder if the constant pressure from the leak will damage the saw rov more.
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Ooo.. multifeed on ABC.

[link to abcnews.go.com]
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Before the multifeed, I was watching tidal waves of oil washing over the screen, but could not make out what the view was of. When it cleared there were two BOT hands in the pic and some come along canvas covered chains or something!!
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Re: BP makes second attempt to cut off riser
breaking its stuck

the saw that is


Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen says a saw has become stuck in a riser piper, stalling the latest attempt to contain the Gulf oil gusher, the Associated Press reports.

Allen said the goal is to free the saw and finish the cut later today. This is the second major cut in the effort to contain the spill.
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"Stuck" is not a very helpfull description.
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06/02/2010 10:33 AM
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What I don’t get is anyone who knows how to do steal demo work knows that you start your cut the opposite side of you pressure. That way as you cut the weight of the pipe will open up your cut and not pinch you blade.

As soon as I saw how they were cutting this I knew it was going to get stuck.

They need some people with common sense n that control room instead of the bumbling book smart idiots they have now.

They are likely to make things really messed up if they keep this up.

They did it exactly right. The bent-over riser is opposit the saw. That will cause the riser to fall AWAY from the bot.



Anonymous Coward 988478, From what I can see they came in from the side of the bend.


All sarcasm aside, they are not that stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988478


The diamond saw cutter is 90 degrees to the downward bend in the riser, not opposite it. Im sure the engineers considered placement very carefully but it was odd to me as well.
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"Stuck" could mean any number of things.
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06/02/2010 10:34 AM
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Re: BP makes second attempt to cut off riser
looks like fire out the end of the pipe
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Shit.. wonder if hydrate crystals might form and bond the blade to the riser..
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What I don’t get is anyone who knows how to do steal demo work knows that you start your cut the opposite side of you pressure. That way as you cut the weight of the pipe will open up your cut and not pinch you blade.

As soon as I saw how they were cutting this I knew it was going to get stuck.

They need some people with common sense n that control room instead of the bumbling book smart idiots they have now.

They are likely to make things really messed up if they keep this up.

They did it exactly right. The bent-over riser is opposit the saw. That will cause the riser to fall AWAY from the bot.



Anonymous Coward 988478, From what I can see they came in from the side of the bend.


All sarcasm aside, they are not that stupid.


The diamond saw cutter is 90 degrees to the downward bend in the riser, not opposite it. Im sure the engineers considered placement very carefully but it was odd to me as well.
 Quoting: Ratla 961537


I would have thought that opposit was best, but there are probably factors I don't know about.
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theyre gonna bring the cutbot to surface and fix it...or use a second saw, but he doesnt know where the second saw is right now... wtf?
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said on cnn that they are going to send another saw down
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06/02/2010 10:35 AM
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Re: BP makes second attempt to cut off riser
Fire??
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Fire??
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looks like it.. is that possible?
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BP has spent 1 billon dollars


and has hired as its fixing crew the three stooges


yuk yuk yuk...
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Re: BP makes second attempt to cut off riser
looks like fire out the end of the pipe
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Ummm...do you think they blew something up down there?
This seems different today. All of it.
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on this link
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06/02/2010 10:37 AM
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Seriously considering putting that Benny Hill song on constantly while watching BP work..
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Re: BP makes second attempt to cut off riser
no fire under that pressure . we need a bit of air for that lol





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