***Ex-Mossad agent: Israeli raid was "wrong" and "stupid"-***

My first thought to that was, 'Good idea'.

But then I thought....And then what? Once the ship was dead in the water, there would still have been a confrontation of some kind to resolve the matter.

But yes, I do think Israel made a big mistake in the way they handled it. Monumentally big, maybe, given the anti-Israel feeling that was already floating around before this happened.

They should have handled it more tactfully if they wanted to gain sympathy and respect.

It was a facepalm moment, imo.

I don't need to hear from anyone to know that it was wrong and stupid.

No matter how you approach this event, it was a military and public relations mistake at every level by Israel to attack a ship flying the flag of a Nato country in international waters. Turkey is a strategic ally of Israel's only strategic ally, which puts the US in a very difficult position because how do you approach this situation in a way that will satisfy both parties. The US is now in an impossible situation to appease both of their allies so they will have to choose or sit of the situation completely. Either way something very bad will happen because of this.

I find it hard to believe that someone as devout as you would choose to be a fashion model, and willfully violate the 2nd Commandment. Explain please -- GLP needs to know!

I wouldn't necessarily disagree...

I think this is sort of a "stunt", (a well meaning stunt), but still a stunt, and I think these people miscalculated Israel...

I knew Israel would shoot first and ask questions later, but I really think these people thought that Israel would cave, and that the stunt would bring some much needed publicity to the humanitarian crisis in GAZA and the West Bank.

But I agree with you, you don't poke a rabid dog with a stick and not expect to get bitten, and they should never have bothered.

Good people lost their lives to this misadventure.

I think these dead people should be all of our focus, and we should all be asking how we can avoid this sort of bloodshed in the future.

I think he is really just saying that it was a tactical error that worked to israels detriment.

Had the IDF say...allowed one of their patrol boats to be run over by the flotilla, that would have generated sympathy, which would have been good For Israel.

By way of deception thou shalt do war, I read the book.

Not Israel as a whole. You can't blame every Jew for what happened, nor can one blame all Muslims when some radical commits Jihad on a bunch of innocent people.

:)

Please don't start with that shit again. Thank you.

My thoughts exactly. Everyone is focusing on the pawns of this chess game and missing the bigger picture.

1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. LOL

Very well put.

So the fork in the road has been reached.

What happens now? And what can be done to prevent further tragedies like this?

Either the Israeli's must lift the blockade

or.....

the activists must decide to abandon Gaza and not deliver aid.

Which seems the more ethical of the two?

I don't even need to ask that question. The truth, and the solution, is obvious.

Absolutely!

So stop it.

Ga 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Don't even bother with the accuser.

A quick question for you. What happens if Israel does lift the ban, then some radical gets through with some kind of WMD's and kills a bunch of innocents. What should Israel do then?

IMO, it seems like it's a no win situation for both sides.

He who excuses himself, accuses himself. :)

Just outing a hasbara.

its was ordered by the Isreal government, they were not independent terrorist, so yes it can be blamed on isreal.

So all the people of Israel took part in this? LINK?

The Israel government honey. They are the ones with the WMD not the Palestinians.

That video proved nothing. It started way after the ship was first approached and even then the video is very caotic and its very hard to say who did what. Bottom line who shot first is under dispute.

Fire Started Before IDF Landing, Wounded bled to Death

Zoubi, the Arab-Israeli Knesset member from National Democratic Alliance who was on one of the ships during the Israeli maritime piracy operation against the International peace activists on their way to break the genocidal siege imposed on Gaza. The remarks of Al-Zoubi came during a press conference hold in Nazareth after her release from the Ashdod detention center where she spent the last night under interrogation by the Israeli intelligence.

Al-Zoubi confirmed that the fire on the passengers on the ship Marmara began before the Israeli navy commandos landed on the ship and before any contact between soldiers and the passengers of the ship. She added: “two of the wounded bled to death as a result of not receiving medical assistance, despite my persistent calls for medical treatment”.

[link to www.kawther.info]

thos guy should watch his back, he may be served some israeli terrorist 'justice' if he doesnt be careful.

the real identity of israel.

i am israel i came to a land without a people for a people without a land .those people who happened to be here had no right to be here and my people showed them they had to leave or die .razing 480 palestinian villages to the ground erasing their history.


i am israel .people committed massacres and later became prime ministers to represent me. in 1948 menachem begin was in charge of the unite that slaughtered the inhabitants of deir-yassin inc 100 men -women and children .in 1953 ariel sharon led the slaughter of the inhabitants of qibya and in 1982 arranged for our allies to butcher around 2,000 in the refugee camps of sabra and shatila.


i am israel .carved in 1948 out of 78% of the land of palestinian .dipossessing it.s inhabitants and replacing them with jews from europe. while the natives whose families lived on this land for thousand,s of years are not allowed to return .jews from all over the world are welcome to instant citizenship.


i am israel.in 1967 i swallowed the remaining lands of palestine the west bank and gaza and placed their inhabitants under an oppressive military rule .controlling and humiliating every aspect of their daily lives .eventually they should get the message that they are not welcome to stay and join the palestinian refugees in the shanty camps of lebanon and jordan.

i am israel. i have the power to control america policy .my american israel affairs committee can make or break any politician of it,s choosing .and as you see they all compete to please me .all the forces of the world are powerless against me. inc the un as i have the american veto to block any condemnation of my war crimes ..as sharon so eloquently phrased it ...we control america.

YOU STINKING LYING .ONE OF MY FAMILY WAS ON THAT BOAT .

along with so many others i protest against the i,d,f actions and urge you to take action in support of the human rights of the flotilla protesters and gaza residents .additionally i write to you as a jewish voter to remind you that many jews do no regard israel as a friend when it takes such poorly judged actions. many british and int jews feel like me .but we rarely get heard because we are moderate .it has been long clear that not all jews are zionists or israelis .recent events suggest that from an international perspective many israelis are not jews not in the sense of the values we hold as peaceful and fair people. increasingly it appears that israel itself represents the greatest danger to jews worldwide.

david nathan
london.

Less than lethal weapons....This is not to say they shouldn't be packing lead either, but it should be the last resort.

Wait until they are in Israel's territorial waters.

Another question for Israel is what to do about all the innocents, caught in the middle of the gaza strip? They all can't be terrorists as you eluded to in a previous post.

9teen and goodrunk lets talk about the holocaust.

lets talk about how the zionist killed hundreds of thousands of jewish people ..

lets talk about one leading zionist leader ..

1 cow in palestin is worth all the jews in poland.

you damm zionist kill more jewish people than hitler/

ummm....
THE CREATION OF ISRAEL WAS WRONG AND STUPID!!!

Fuck you Mossad. Yeee-aaah Bitches.