***OMFG!!...Ireland's Rachel Corrie Aid Ship about Break through Israel Blockcade!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 989966 Spain 06/02/2010 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396europeans sure hate jews no wonder israel just goes ahead and says #%^&$ the europeans. they stood by and watched babies burn but europe is defunct they have american bases on their land. lol wimps Europe and America are friends, dont forget we are related, we are cousins. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 990025 Sweden 06/02/2010 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | whos hating? i see no evidence of that statement of yours, what i do see is discontent of the iraeli government. thats a difference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990303yes! I am proud to be friends with loyal, American Jews. I love their culture, their food, their closeness, their unity, but those extremist Israelis who have infiltrated our government and the right-wing, genocidal freaks who run the Israeli government can take a fucking hike. I dont mind jews in any way thats why im wondering about your assumption, talk before thought? I feel sad for the jewish people getting drag into this because of a blood thirsty government. |
9teen.47™ User ID: 990218 United Kingdom 06/02/2010 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961340 United States 06/02/2010 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will be allowed through after an inspection. If Ireland refuses inspection, this vessel will not be permitted to unload. Quoting: EggRollThis is really simple. The moment ships want to avoid inspection, their intentions are revealed. If they are looking for a confrontation, they will get one. I hope you're right tough guy. It's not a matter of you calling me "tough guy" It's a matter of Israel being provoked, and tested to the point of international bullying at this point. Israel will NOT sit idly by allowing this to go on. It will NOT allow Turkey to humiliate them as it hides it's jihad behind NATO. If Turkish vessels are sent, they are making their final voyage. It's just a fact. Nothing more. I hope you're right tough guy. |
EggRoll User ID: 901070 United States 06/02/2010 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you espect after Israel army killed after boarding in international waters 9 of their citizens. Quoting: GONGObviously they have to do it otherwise what.. they woul look like chikens open for more abuses. The fact is Israel has done something absolutely wrong and they dont want to admit it, you cant just board civilians ships in pen sea and then kill 20 people onboard cause you didnt have the the authority following maritime laws to to it in the first place. It's piracy done from a state against civilians of other nations, simple truth. It's not random piracy you idiot. The flotilla intended to enter ISRAEL. Don't you get that? No cause you dont know anything about what you talk apparently, 150km from Israel coasts is international waters, isrrael cant use their army on international waters civilians ship less to use commando forces on them less to kill them and less to kidnapp them and their ships afterward- This is piracy It is not piracy. You're hiding behind words. Israel has no intention of taking ships over, and stealing the cargo for themselves, or ransom. Most of the ships were allowed through and the aid was unloaded. Hamas refused it. How is this piracy again? It looks like a plain old provocation followed by an action which took place on neutral ground. You don't like it? Write letters to the flotilla organizers telling them to stop stupidly trying to sail toward Israel with announced intentions of "breaking the blockade" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 728329 Canada 06/02/2010 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 983641 nice video Easier to understand fully the Israeli side now. |
TruthHurts User ID: 967047 United States 06/02/2010 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This Rachel Corrie ship isn't that close to arrival, is it? Maybe tomorrow or Friday. Anyways, it should be a non-event. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990303I think what Israel needs to do, since all these demonstrators are hellbent on delivering the aid themselves, is build a staging area at the Ashdod port, where all humanitarian aid boats can land, be inspected by Israeli authorities there, and then the aid workers can unload the cargo themselves if they want to. At least that would give them the satisfaction they need, and they could also speak with some Palestinians as well before taking off. I do not by any means want to suggest that Israel let anyone come and go as they please, I'm just saying there is a much safer and more peaceful way of doing things, that would make everyone happy. the aide workers need to take the aid directly to the Palestinians after Israel inspects it otherwise I doubt the aid will be transferred by Israel. my thoughts, Israel is ethnically cleansing Palestine it must be stopped now That's actually what I meant in my post. If some Palestinian dock workers were there to receive the cargo, everyone could go home somewhat happy. The Israelis would still have a sufficient area for security protocol and the aid workers could get off the boat for a couple minutes, stretch their legs and see for themselves that the Palestinians are well cared for. The fact that there has been a complete blockade only raises suspicions, especially with all of the evidence of genocide taking place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 989966 Spain 06/02/2010 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 989966europeans sure hate jews no wonder israel just goes ahead and says #%^&$ the europeans. they stood by and watched babies burn but europe is defunct they have american bases on their land. lol wimps Europe and America are friends, dont forget we are related, we are cousins. What most europeans dont like isnt America or Americans its Americas foreign policy, as in the this case for example. |
EggRoll User ID: 901070 United States 06/02/2010 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will be allowed through after an inspection. If Ireland refuses inspection, this vessel will not be permitted to unload. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961340This is really simple. The moment ships want to avoid inspection, their intentions are revealed. If they are looking for a confrontation, they will get one. I hope you're right tough guy. It's not a matter of you calling me "tough guy" It's a matter of Israel being provoked, and tested to the point of international bullying at this point. Israel will NOT sit idly by allowing this to go on. It will NOT allow Turkey to humiliate them as it hides it's jihad behind NATO. If Turkish vessels are sent, they are making their final voyage. It's just a fact. Nothing more. I hope you're right tough guy. I have good news. I AM right. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 990326 Germany 06/02/2010 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ................................................................................................Hm, this could get "interesting." Quoting: SomeGermanDudeDid you know your images take up more space than your meaningless post? And you are reposting them. Did you know it is possible to delete parts of the quote? |
Zionists Be Damned User ID: 990263 Egypt 06/02/2010 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suppose you dont' think it's provocative to send a ship named Rachel Corrie to Gaza at this time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988736a ship named the rachel corrie? no. a ship named the adolph hitler? yes.. Awesome points. Well said. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." ~KrishnaMurti ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The lie tastes sweet at the beginning, but bitter at the end. The truth tastes bitter at the beginning, but sweet at the end." Buddha ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FREE FREE PALESTINE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 946396 United States 06/02/2010 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I feel sad for the jewish people getting drag into this because of a blood thirsty government." lol really- how touching well, those "jewish people" elected the government so they are ok? when someone says "zionist" or "i hate the gov not the people" they are really saying "i hate jews" as anyone with a brain can see stupid liar |
EggRoll User ID: 901070 United States 06/02/2010 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suppose you dont' think it's provocative to send a ship named Rachel Corrie to Gaza at this time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988736a ship named the rachel corrie? no. a ship named the adolph hitler? yes.. The Rachel Corrie case continues to be a controversial case in Israel, and your assumption is based solely on convenience for you. Sending this ship is a slap in the face of the IDF, and I wouldn't expect flowers and welcome banners in exchange. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 990303 United States 06/02/2010 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel had all right to board those ships because of international laws, but that dosent justify urder in anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990025No they didnt had any authority to do it until the boat crossed their territorial waters. It's not like these boatd where military navy vessels they where civilian cruise ships.. tho personally i find it that they did that so cold hearted, monsters. why dont the residents of israel make a regime change? but it all seems as an excuse to kill people ad nothing more. they don't make a regime change because they live in a police state just like Americans do i know Israeli activists who are victims of directed energy torture i keep telling folks and telling folks --- if you are an effective activist, and you get a movement really going -- you will die or be tortured with the DE weapons neurological weapons read about it you can no longer rely on activists to fight your battles for you anywhere on any continent -- we are too sick and too burned out and too targeted and tortured |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 988736 Turkey 06/02/2010 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel is spawn of Great Britian, the biggest pirates the world ever saw. They're an offshoot of the empire. Quoting: susanogo look up king david hotel bombing and lavon affair and then consider the utter inaccuracy of your claim |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 990303 United States 06/02/2010 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I feel sad for the jewish people getting drag into this because of a blood thirsty government." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396lol really- how touching well, those "jewish people" elected the government so they are ok? when someone says "zionist" or "i hate the gov not the people" they are really saying "i hate jews" as anyone with a brain can see stupid liar there are no elections elections are rigged the world over |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 987639 Ireland 06/02/2010 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like the author had his thinking cap on here.... It would appear he has given some thought as to the real reasons, in his view as to why this debacle will continue. UK, June 1, (Pal Telegraph – By Peter Eyre) This current situation is not only very difficult but can also turn out to be extremely volatile. I feel that what happened today is part of a much bigger picture involving geopolitics and control of world energy markets. Firstly as I have said before Iran is a thorn in the side for the US who specifically feel threatened by the hug potential and ability that Iran has in not only becoming a major player in marketing its natural resources but also has a substantial military force. The two together makes it a country that should be respected. Turkey on the other hand is very much part of the West in that it is already al long standing member of NATO and is also currently seeking EU membership. It is at a vital corridor for energy supply i.e. a transit country for oil/gas from Iran and the general Caspian Sea area and beyond. Israel has for some years been planning a joint venture with Turkey to establish a possible pipeline from Turkey down to Israel and then on via the Gulf of Aqaba and onwards to Asia and the Far East. This relationship has been very difficult at times because of the Palestinian situation and certainly after the Israelis attacked on Gaza in 2008/9. What we are now seeing is a clash of the giants as to who will secure these valuable markets. It appears, at the moment, that the US Backed TAPI pipeline from Turkmenistan - Afghanistan - Pakistan - India may have lost out to the Iranian backed IPI pipeline from Iran - Pakistan - India. This must be a major blow to the US and consequently it would be to America's advantage to carry out some action against Iran to stop this going ahead. Because of Israel's aggression towards the Palestinians (in particular Gaza) it looks like the proposed pipeline from Turkey - Israel will now be cancelled. We must remember that economically this was an extremely lucrative deal for Israel and would have given them much prosperity and now this, like the US pipeline is fast fading away. It is therefore, in my opinion, that the US and Israel are now licking their wounds and would now like to see some conflict with not only Iran but also possibly Turkey. Add to this the existing tension between Israel - Syria - Lebanon and Palestine and one can see potential for major conflict in the region. I am 100% sure that this current aid convoy and the resulting action was intentionally orchestrated to provoke a conflict between Israel and Turkey with the US looking on (and the UN) fully understanding the consequences if and aggressive interception took place (which it did). The question here is not if the legality to intercept was in breach of international maritime law but rather a case of was the way the intercept was planned and the force with which it was applied acceptable. I know that after the Israelis pulled out of Gaza, the Palestinian Authority was almost forced to agree to a deal whereby the policing and control of the Gaza offshore zone would become the full and legal responsibility of the Israeli Government. One can only assume that this was purely as a control of the legal limits as set down by the Oslo Accord, which was a distance of 20 nautical miles offshore and all that lay within. However, this intercept took place, presumably within the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) of Israel and outside of the Gaza Zone so one would have to investigate further as to who had what rights to carry out this action and was there any justification etc. It was obvious that this intercept was very carefully planned and as soon as the vessels left the Cyprus EEZ and entered the Israeli EEZ that they were going to take action. What transpired was truly not only an overkill but also was in total violation of normal intercept procedure. The correct procedure for a military naval intercept is that a warship will approach the target vessel/s and challenge them by whatever means are available i.e. Radio contact on marine channel 16, signaling via light (Morse) or pulling in closer to the vessels and talking via intercom etc. The challenge would be to identify the vessel/s and ask the standard questions what ship, where from, where bound amount of person on board and cargo etc. Once they have confirmed this identity and ascertained that the vessel/s are destined for a port that is off limits under the terms of the blockade they will then order them to alter course and to either return to some other safe port or advise them to select another port of destination i.e. El Arish or whatever. Once this initial challenge has been carried out and if the Captain of the vessel/s refuses to comply then the patrol boat would then fire a warning shot over the bow. Again a second warning is carried out and if the vessel/s continues to ignore the patrol boat may choose to carry out an attack or board the vessels concerned. The intercept carried out in the early hours of this morning was a well staged military assault that bypassed all normal protocol and was truly very aggressive from the onset. The means used to board these vessels was a total overkill. Normally for one vessel a well trained boarding party is all that is required with backup standing by in the event of conflict. In this case we are talking of many Israeli vessels loaded with highly specialized commandoes and helicopters doing a raid on a passenger ferry full of unarmed humanitarian civilians and associated aid. If one board a vessel in such an aggressive manner it is obvious that it will provoke reprisal in some form. I feel this entire exercise was extremely well orchestrated with a much bigger plan in mind and now it’s a case as to how politically difficult this could become. It is my own belief that one must look deeper at the forward planning from both sides. We appear to see an aggressive well rehearsed Israeli plan and on the humanitarian side some rather very high risk planning that could have endangered many more lives. Some of the vessels were very purely prepared with no buffer time allowed for in the event of mechanical difficulties. Finally I continue to ask the question if the enormous amount of money raised is to be handed over to the Israelis rather than the target group and if vessels are to be confiscated one would have to keep asking the same question time and time again is it commercially viable to keep doing this if the aid is not getting to the target group, It would be much better to save these huge sums of money (that has yet again been wasted) and try to work something out with Egypt to get that money transferred into specialized hospital equipment that I am sure would be allowed to cross over into Rafah if arranged in the correct manner and by negotiation with Egypt i.e. MRSI scanner or other specialized equipment. It is also clear that under no circumstance does Israel want Palestine to exist and therefore any future talks must be done via the international court with the UN offering peace keeping troops to Gaza (in the interim) and to lift the blockade. They have done this in Lebanon so why not Gaza and West Bank?. Peter Eyre - Middle East Consultant - 31/5/2010 |
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EggRoll User ID: 901070 United States 06/02/2010 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you espect after Israel army killed after boarding in international waters 9 of their citizens. Quoting: susanoObviously they have to do it otherwise what.. they woul look like chikens open for more abuses. The fact is Israel has done something absolutely wrong and they dont want to admit it, you cant just board civilians ships in pen sea and then kill 20 people onboard cause you didnt have the the authority following maritime laws to to it in the first place. It's piracy done from a state against civilians of other nations, simple truth. It's not random piracy you idiot. The flotilla intended to enter ISRAEL. Don't you get that? Uh, no, they were going to Gaza, which is not Israel In order to land in Gaza, they would have to enter Israeli waters. Besides, Gaza isn't a state. It is part of Israel. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 990025 Sweden 06/02/2010 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I feel sad for the jewish people getting drag into this because of a blood thirsty government." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396lol really- how touching well, those "jewish people" elected the government so they are ok? when someone says "zionist" or "i hate the gov not the people" they are really saying "i hate jews" as anyone with a brain can see stupid liar Lol think voting actually works? Is your perception that low, or is it the oil fumes hitting your remaining brain? just look at your own home front when it comes to elections hahaha calling me a liar without any basis shows your just ignorant and dumb. Dumbing down america seems to have some truth in it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 970781 Netherlands 06/02/2010 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since when is Gaza and Gaza waters part of State of Israel? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970781But as a Serb.. I'm glad to see this Multi Kulti mish mash conflict of Nato , Jews , Muslims , Vatican. You were ALL together banishing and demonizing Serbs beyond any reason. From our perspective.. you are all piece of sht. ( do not mean people , but powers representing all of this ) |
Zionists Be Damned User ID: 990263 Egypt 06/02/2010 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you espect after Israel army killed after boarding in international waters 9 of their citizens. Quoting: EggRollObviously they have to do it otherwise what.. they woul look like chikens open for more abuses. The fact is Israel has done something absolutely wrong and they dont want to admit it, you cant just board civilians ships in pen sea and then kill 20 people onboard cause you didnt have the the authority following maritime laws to to it in the first place. It's piracy done from a state against civilians of other nations, simple truth. It's not random piracy you idiot. The flotilla intended to enter ISRAEL. Don't you get that? Uh, no, they were going to Gaza, which is not Israel In order to land in Gaza, they would have to enter Israeli waters. Besides, Gaza isn't a state. It is part of Israel. fuck off you are wrong! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." ~KrishnaMurti ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The lie tastes sweet at the beginning, but bitter at the end. The truth tastes bitter at the beginning, but sweet at the end." Buddha ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FREE FREE PALESTINE |
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nomind User ID: 904314 Canada 06/02/2010 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I feel sad for the jewish people getting drag into this because of a blood thirsty government." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396lol really- how touching well, those "jewish people" elected the government so they are ok? when someone says "zionist" or "i hate the gov not the people" they are really saying "i hate jews" as anyone with a brain can see stupid liar I think he meant the jewish people who are not israelis. Most of them have nothing to do with Israel in any way. My Interesting Karma messages: - "You are an idiot. This post proves it." -"GLP MEMBERS BEWARE!!! THIS IS A GOVERNMENT SHILL." - Most moranic one given to me: When you type ".." you need to put three dots instead of two. Thread: Nibiru, or how to appear like you know what you are talking about |