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Paradigm Transformation - Cosmic in Scale

 
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The effects of this fluffy will be visible in the sort future or will be take longer?
Are all these signs results of that?
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Right, we are already seeing manifestations of its effects...but remember, it is not just the 'fluff', it is an entire 'celestial system' that is incoming.
 Quoting: Sickscent


...and there is a lot more coming besides just that. There are certain things that need to occur in order for proper manifestations of human events as well. One of these is what this post is all about. There must be a paradigm change occur in the scientific community, but it is difficult.

It is going to manifest outside of academia, outside of ingrained thought patterns that have subsumed foundational scientific theory.

That is why I spoke of the importance of Xenus' work. His study is outside the commonly held scientific ideology. This is where the paradigm changes will occur first, from outside the standard scientific community.
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You'd know I'm too young for dealing with shit like this then lol... That last quote triggered something, I kept seeing the words angular momentum pop up everywhere lately. I didn't think it was worth looking into at the time but then I found this...

Title:Star formation in a dusty plasma cloud

Authors:Alfven, H.

Publication:Star formation in a dusty plasma cloud., by Alfvén, H.. Tek. Hoegsk., Stockholm, Sweden. Instn.
NASA/STI Keywords:COSMIC DUST, PLASMA CLOUDS, STELLAR EVOLUTION, ANGULAR MOMENTUM, ASTRONOMICAL MODELS, FORMATIONS, GRAVITATIONAL COLLAPSE, JEANS THEORY, STABILITY.

Abstract

The formation of a star in a plasma cloud dust is discussed. A dusty plasma cloud in space has a gravitational instability which allows star formation even at orders of magnitude below the Jean's limit for gravitational collapse. This instability leads to a stellesimal accretion which is analogous to the planetesimal accretion. If the law of isochronism which holds for planetesimal accretion is applied to the formation of our sun, it gives an acceptable angular momentum to the early sun. Furthermore, the situation in the solar environment is reconcilable with the initial condition for formation of planets.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

Let us now consider the angular momentum carried off by the solar wind. Angular momentum loss is a crucially important topic in astrophysics, since only by losing angular momentum can large, diffuse objects, such as interstellar gas clouds, collapse under the influence of gravity to produce small, compact objects, such as stars and proto-stars.
[link to farside.ph.utexas.edu]

So, in conjunction with all the threads about the clouds, we could see the birth of a new star or planet(s).
 Quoting: Xenus_nli 869756


LOL, I see 'angular momentum' EVERYWHERE. It has come across as a Holy Grail' type theory in recent studies that I have been doing. Just like the study above tends to hint at, angular momentum is 'in' everything.
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Or a whole new solar system. Or something more exotic like black "hole" or neutron star. Regardless of what the object is, it should be interesting, maybe this is how we got our moon to begin with during one of these passages through a cloud.
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Once again, truly awesome information. Makes me wonder if I'll be deemed significant and ready, I believe that you must be aware and working at it, so that's what I'll keep doing. Thanks SS!
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Here is something on Angular Momentum, Xenus. You've probably seen it before. This is from the Aether Model.
[link to www.secrets-of-the-aether.com]

Modern physics describes electrons and protons as particles, but it does not stop there. Physicists also describe force carriers as particles, and identify a host of particles that remain undetected such as axions, photinos, selectrons, and gravitinos[1]. Supposedly, the strong force is due to the exchange of particles. The photon designates a particle. The neutrino is a particle. Everything is a particle. It is as though the makers of Legos[2] developed modern physics.

The addition of all these particles has helped in one respect: it seems to be giving us an understanding of renormalization. For years scientists have been getting around the difficulties of infinities in their theories by subtracting them out—in essence, by sweeping them under the rug. The method they used worked, but they were not quite sure why. With supergravity it seems as if we may be able to get around renormalization. Crudely speaking, it turns out that for each infinity in the theory that is caused by a boson there is an infinity of the opposite sign caused by a fermion, and they cancel one another.

Despite the promise of explaining renormalization, the theory does have difficulties. The major one is all the particles that are predicted by it—selectrons, winos, and so on. They have never been found in nature. Scientists, however, have an argument for this: They say that they might have been generated with so much mass that we have not yet been able to observe them. But when we get larger accelerators we will be able to.[3]

In the Aether Physics Model, primary angular momentum is the absolute primary unit of matter. Yes, we can shatter the primary angular momentum of protons and neutrons and we can observe that the dying onta fall apart in regular patterns and these ephemeral pieces can designate as quarks, for whatever it is worth. And just for amusement, one can label characteristics of the quarks as colors, flavors, and up/down. However, when we understand the living nature of Aether, we find that particle smashing is neither instructive nor amusing.
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A beautiful group of 16 pulsar recordings from a near by beautiful star cluster, a southern hemisphere favorite!
Wait for the end of the recording when they all sing together!



The fuzz and stream of a Pulsar Chorus, melodies singing over time and space, an information network lying just beyond perception, raised in the oscillating fields of frequency...our thoughts, so mechanical...Is it any wonder, our misundersatandings? The universe communicates without language, beyond archtypes...through song and intimacy...Is it any wonder, the distance we feel? Remove yourSelf from the equation...embrace the dynamic perfection, of these 16. - SickScent
[link to www.jb.man.ac.uk]
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That was just crazy!! Thanks hf
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The effects of this fluffy will be visible in the sort future or will be take longer?
Are all these signs results of that?
Thanks


Right, we are already seeing manifestations of its effects...but remember, it is not just the 'fluff', it is an entire 'celestial system' that is incoming.


...and there is a lot more coming besides just that. There are certain things that need to occur in order for proper manifestations of human events as well. One of these is what this post is all about. There must be a paradigm change occur in the scientific community, but it is difficult.

It is going to manifest outside of academia, outside of ingrained thought patterns that have subsumed foundational scientific theory.

That is why I spoke of the importance of Xenus' work. His study is outside the commonly held scientific ideology. This is where the paradigm changes will occur first, from outside the standard scientific community.
 Quoting: Sickscent


I am sure there are scientists who have thoughts that would not be accepted by their peers, just like not conforming with the herd is not accepted by our peers in society, and this is makes them fear sharing those ideas and thoughts. Just because they don't share them doesn't mean they don't have them, but unless they do share them they might as well not exist. The information is spread throughout many sources, many people, if only they could put aside the fear of being ridiculed and fired from their jobs... Scientists should write science fiction, incorporating their work in thought experiments, that way the are free to share anything they wish without fear of reprisal.

Society has become a Chinese finger trap.
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Once again, truly awesome information. Makes me wonder if I'll be deemed significant and ready, I believe that you must be aware and working at it, so that's what I'll keep doing. Thanks SS!
 Quoting: Falconia


Remember Falconia, it is not necessary for most to get into the details. Most will just need a general understanding. It will be something like this: when you live in your 'everyday' life, there will be things that are 'announced' or whatever, and you'll go, "now I remember that!" It is awareness, part of the information that will 'resonate' with you.
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A beautiful group of 16 pulsar recordings from a near by beautiful star cluster, a southern hemisphere favorite!
Wait for the end of the recording when they all sing together!



The fuzz and stream of a Pulsar Chorus, melodies singing over time and space, an information network lying just beyond perception, raised in the oscillating fields of frequency...our thoughts, so mechanical...Is it any wonder, our misundersatandings? The universe communicates without language, beyond archtypes...through song and intimacy...Is it any wonder, the distance we feel? Remove yourSelf from the equation...embrace the dynamic perfection, of these 16. - SickScent
[link to www.jb.man.ac.uk]



That was just crazy!! Thanks hf
 Quoting: Cha Cha


I was hoping some might listen to it. I thought it was awesome. When I first heard it, I wrote that paragraph above...it just flowed out like that.
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The effects of this fluffy will be visible in the sort future or will be take longer?
Are all these signs results of that?
Thanks


Right, we are already seeing manifestations of its effects...but remember, it is not just the 'fluff', it is an entire 'celestial system' that is incoming.


...and there is a lot more coming besides just that. There are certain things that need to occur in order for proper manifestations of human events as well. One of these is what this post is all about. There must be a paradigm change occur in the scientific community, but it is difficult.

It is going to manifest outside of academia, outside of ingrained thought patterns that have subsumed foundational scientific theory.

That is why I spoke of the importance of Xenus' work. His study is outside the commonly held scientific ideology. This is where the paradigm changes will occur first, from outside the standard scientific community.


I am sure there are scientists who have thoughts that would not be accepted by their peers, just like not conforming with the herd is not accepted by our peers in society, and this is makes them fear sharing those ideas and thoughts. Just because they don't share them doesn't mean they don't have them, but unless they do share them they might as well not exist. The information is spread throughout many sources, many people, if only they could put aside the fear of being ridiculed and fired from their jobs... Scientists should write science fiction, incorporating their work in thought experiments, that way the are free to share anything they wish without fear of reprisal.

Society has become a Chinese finger trap.
 Quoting: Xenus_nli 869756


Right, and that is why the 'exterior' scientific community will be the trigger. They are on the 'exterior' because they aren't afraid of ridicule from their peers. They couldn't give a shit about it. Boundaries need to be crossed, and the scientific community, especially in academia, are scared shitless to be that bold. But when enough study is done outside of them that crosses the boundaries from the ones not only pushing the boundaries but are truly using their imaginations once again, and their findings are truth, not made up theories in the art of mathematics...well, changes will begin happening.
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A beautiful group of 16 pulsar recordings from a near by beautiful star cluster, a southern hemisphere favorite!
Wait for the end of the recording when they all sing together!



The fuzz and stream of a Pulsar Chorus, melodies singing over time and space, an information network lying just beyond perception, raised in the oscillating fields of frequency...our thoughts, so mechanical...Is it any wonder, our misundersatandings? The universe communicates without language, beyond archtypes...through song and intimacy...Is it any wonder, the distance we feel? Remove yourSelf from the equation...embrace the dynamic perfection, of these 16. - SickScent
[link to www.jb.man.ac.uk]



That was just crazy!! Thanks hf


I was hoping some might listen to it. I thought it was awesome. When I first heard it, I wrote that paragraph above...it just flowed out like that.
 Quoting: Sickscent


That is really cool, not like the eerie sounds from saturn and jupiter.
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This is from Einstein, and the trappings of mathematics as the be-all end-all of scientific methodology:


Einstein himself had reservations about the mathematical approach favoured by expanding universe proponents:

"Since the mathematicians have invaded the theory of relativity, I do not understand it myself any more."

"To the extent that the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not true; and to the extent that they are true, they do not refer to reality."
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Hannes Alfvén
...made many contributions to plasma physics, including theories describing the behavior of aurorae, the Van Allen radiation belts, the effect of magnetic storms on the Earth's magnetic field, the terrestrial magnetosphere, and the dynamics of plasmas in the Milky Way galaxy. - Wikipedia

"I was there when Abbe Georges Lemaitre first proposed this theory [Big Bang]. Lemaitre was, at the time, both a member of the Catholic hierarchy and an accomplished scientist. He said in private that this theory was a way to reconcile science with St. Thomas Aquinas' theological dictum of creatio ex nihilo or creation out of nothing.

"There is no rational reason to doubt that the universe has existed indefinitely, for an infinite time. It is only myth that attempts to say how the universe came to be, either four thousand or twenty billion years ago."

- Hannes Alfvén
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Pertaining to The Big Bang Theory

“Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could.”
—from The Sound of Music.
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A beautiful group of 16 pulsar recordings from a near by beautiful star cluster, a southern hemisphere favorite!
Wait for the end of the recording when they all sing together!



The fuzz and stream of a Pulsar Chorus, melodies singing over time and space, an information network lying just beyond perception, raised in the oscillating fields of frequency...our thoughts, so mechanical...Is it any wonder, our misundersatandings? The universe communicates without language, beyond archtypes...through song and intimacy...Is it any wonder, the distance we feel? Remove yourSelf from the equation...embrace the dynamic perfection, of these 16. - SickScent
[link to www.jb.man.ac.uk]



That was just crazy!! Thanks hf


I was hoping some might listen to it. I thought it was awesome. When I first heard it, I wrote that paragraph above...it just flowed out like that.


That is really cool, not like the eerie sounds from saturn and jupiter.
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ohyeah
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Pertaining to The Big Bang Theory

“Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could.”
—from The Sound of Music.
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My favourite quote from a book by a very good writer.

“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”
Terry Pratchett
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Pertaining to The Big Bang Theory

“Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could.”
—from The Sound of Music.


My favourite quote from a book by a very good writer.

“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”
Terry Pratchett
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lmao

That is awesome
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wow

thank you

i have been working for a while on inner workings of light, spirals and pulse flow
and i've been blinkered by it by not looking out enough
partly through fear of physics- conflict with the contradictions of 'scientific' cosmology and spiritual cosmogenesis
and you've opened a door

that is really cool, thank you

and xenus, new to your thoughts , what a mind
thanks for sharing
and hf thanks for good advice, well timed
thumb out time


i love this universe afro
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great post,


finally something to read that doesn't make me
want to throw up on the keyboard.

hf
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great post,


finally something to read that doesn't make me
want to throw up on the keyboard.

hf
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Yeah, too much religious fighting and politics been cropping up...
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wow

thank you

i have been working for a while on inner workings of light, spirals and pulse flow
and i've been blinkered by it by not looking out enough
partly through fear of physics- conflict with the contradictions of 'scientific' cosmology and spiritual cosmogenesis
and you've opened a door

that is really cool, thank you

and xenus, new to your thoughts , what a mind
thanks for sharing
and hf thanks for good advice, well timed
thumb out time


i love this universe afro
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Very glad to hear it. You should start seeing a difference in the sciences...in that they will get more in line with your spiritual thoughts. It seems much of what we thought was scientific 'fact' is getting thrown out and replaced with simpler, more elegant models.
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wow

thank you

i have been working for a while on inner workings of light, spirals and pulse flow
and i've been blinkered by it by not looking out enough
partly through fear of physics- conflict with the contradictions of 'scientific' cosmology and spiritual cosmogenesis
and you've opened a door

that is really cool, thank you

and xenus, new to your thoughts , what a mind
thanks for sharing
and hf thanks for good advice, well timed
thumb out time


i love this universe afro
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Thanks, mind sharing anything that you've been working on? Seeing as how visible light is the only part of the EM spectrum we can detect and absorb as information. I keep getting told I think too much, sometimes can be a bad thing, but overall it's something I enjoy and I am good at, despite the problems it's caused. Truth is a reflection of reality, and reality is the sum of everything within the universe. Only in a sickened world do people fear the truth or telling it...

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great post,


finally something to read that doesn't make me
want to throw up on the keyboard.

hf
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afro
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wow

thank you

i have been working for a while on inner workings of light, spirals and pulse flow
and i've been blinkered by it by not looking out enough
partly through fear of physics- conflict with the contradictions of 'scientific' cosmology and spiritual cosmogenesis
and you've opened a door

that is really cool, thank you

and xenus, new to your thoughts , what a mind
thanks for sharing
and hf thanks for good advice, well timed
thumb out time


i love this universe afro


Thanks, mind sharing anything that you've been working on? Seeing as how visible light is the only part of the EM spectrum we can detect and absorb as information. I keep getting told I think too much, sometimes can be a bad thing, but overall it's something I enjoy and I am good at, despite the problems it's caused. Truth is a reflection of reality, and reality is the sum of everything within the universe. Only in a sickened world do people fear the truth or telling it...


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no problem sharing , none at all , my pleasure

been looking at the interface experience of our basic interactions with the world as we see it- our reality- a receptive and expressive dynamic capable of transformative experience

that and the utilisation/transfer of the cosmic in- pourings to our good astral/physical/spiritual selves ,it's flow through our bodies, the fields it creates and our perception and control of such
and trying to weave in some correspondence in biological observations along the way

mad journey, good though

i'm probably better with questions though - as i'm prone to ramble -see above-and i've been (over-)thinking this for a while and keep going off at tangents

and i don't want to clog up this nugget of a thread

would another thread be useful?
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It's all related and connected, here's something interesting I came across today.

Does Light Exist Between Events?
by Jim Walker

PREFACE

Perhaps we cannot find a basic mechanism of light for the simple possibility that it may not exist. Whether it exists or not between events, I cannot imagine a more wonderfully perplexing and yet seemingly ubiquitous phenomenon as that of light. I use the term "light" in its general sense as that energy which allegedly pervades our existence and which physicist's call the electromagnetic force or electromagnetism (EM). It encompasses the entire spectrum from low frequency (long-wavelength) radio waves, heat (infrared), visible light, X-rays, and to the most energetic gamma rays. Quantum physicists today describe electromagnetism as one of the four elemental forces of the universe (the other three consist of the weak force, strong force, and gravity).

Almost everything we sense, see, touch and feel comes as a result of this force; it holds atoms together, creates the properties of chemistry and of every element in the periodic chart. Our every thought consists of electrochemical patterns. We cannot exist and, in fact, we consist of the reactions of the electromagnetic force within matter. Yet this most common "thing" remains completely inexplicable. We know nothing at all about its physical mechanism.

By inexplicable, I mean it in its philosophical sense rather than the scientific. Scientifically, light has received the most scrutiny of any other force and provided physicists with its most acclaimed successes, with predictions within one part in millions. Newton, Maxwell and Einstein have produced theories and mathematical descriptions that, through their understanding, have emerged technological achievements such as radio, television and lasers. Yet the success of these scientific theories have thrown virtually no light (pun intended) on the nature of the mechanism of light. How does it actually exist in nature? How can it travel through space? If it exists in space, what describes its shape, size, and boundary limits within space-time? How does this mysterious "action-at-a-distance" occur? No one has yet come close to accurately describing the alleged corporal substance of this ethereal phenomenon, and certainly not without also producing insurmountable paradoxes. Needless to say, the inconsistent descriptions present epistemological problems as well as ontological. Can we actually know anything about sole photons? Perhaps, even in principle, there occurs a quantum barrier to forever prevent knowledge of them. Or perhaps there exists nothing for us to know about; maybe light does not exist at all between emission and detection!

In this treatise I have no intention to show that the phenomenon of light does not exist. On the contrary the vast experimental data provides ample evidence that something occurs at the events. By "event" I mean something happening. For example the source (emission) of light and the detection of light act as measurable events. But where else does it occur? Our descriptions of light forces us to think of light as traveling through space, either as wave, particle or a union of both. But in doing so, we come up against insurmountable logical problems when we try to apply these descriptions to the double-slit experiment or the three polarizer problem. Can we describe light in another way that upholds the data yet eliminates the paradoxes without contradicting the mathematical models?

I will attempt to show that part of the problem may come, not from the nature of light, but in our unexamined use of language, the way in which we try to describe light, and of the philosophical beliefs held by scientists in their attempt to explain the properties of light. Because of the impreciseness of our spoken language, paradoxes and fallacies emerge that tend to confuse rather than to reveal. So also do scientists have their favorite beliefs, perhaps unconsciously born into them from Aristotelean beliefs, learned from rote teachings that appear absolute and unforgiving. I intend to show that perhaps many of the properties of light do not occur "out there" but only in our heads. Indeed, the phenomenon of a discrete packet of energy traveling through space might not exist at all, but rather the idea of its existence comes about through an incorrect way of thinking that derived from the Ancient Greeks and passed onto the 19th century physicists who created the scientific vocabulary we use today.



THE INVENTION OF PHOTONS

There appears only two ways to avoid action-at-a-distance. Either you propose a wave traveling through a medium, (like water and sound) or your propose an independent body that moves from point to point (like baseballs). The idea that light consisted of corpuscles actually began with Isaac Newton, but the mathematical description of quanta began in the early 1900s when Planck proposed the quantum of measured energy. He did not, however, believe in the corporal existence of light. Rather, he thought of light as traveling through a luminiferous ether in accordance with Maxwell's light theory, but measured in discrete lumps which he called quanta (Planck, 1909). The idea of light existing independently as discrete quanta came from Albert Einstein:

"Only the conception of a luminiferous ether as the carrier of the electric and magnetic forces does not fit into the theory described here; for electromagnetic forces appear here not as states of some substance, but rather as independently existing things that are similar to ponderable matter and share with it the feature of inertia." (Einstein, 1907)

Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

I don't mean to chastise Einstein, but rather the leagues of followers (read, believers) who have transmitted his concept in hundreds of scientific papers and placed it upon an untouchable pedestal of Truth. Yet few people realize that Einstein gave a heuristic description of light, not one that he thought of as absolute or as a requirement for his theories:

"For the time being the most natural interpretation seems to me to be that the occurrence of electromagnetic fields of light is associated with singular points just like the occurrence of electrostatic fields according to the electric theory. It is not out of the question that in such a theory the entire energy of the electromagnetic field might be viewed as localized in these singularities, exactly like in the old theory of action at a distance. I more or less imagine each such singular point as being surrounded by a field of force which has essentially the character of a plane wave and whose amplitude decreases with the distance from the singular point. . . I am sure it need not be particularly emphasized that no importance should be attached to such a picture as long as it has not led to an exact theory. All I wanted is briefly to indicate with its help that the two structural properties (the undulatory structure and the quantum structure) simultaneously displayed by radiation according to the Planck formula should not be considered as mutually incompatible." (Einstein, 1909) [bold characters, mine]
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It's all related and connected, here's something interesting I came across today.

Does Light Exist Between Events?
by Jim Walker

PREFACE

Perhaps we cannot find a basic mechanism of light for the simple possibility that it may not exist. Whether it exists or not between events, I cannot imagine a more wonderfully perplexing and yet seemingly ubiquitous phenomenon as that of light. I use the term "light" in its general sense as that energy which allegedly pervades our existence and which physicist's call the electromagnetic force or electromagnetism (EM). It encompasses the entire spectrum from low frequency (long-wavelength) radio waves, heat (infrared), visible light, X-rays, and to the most energetic gamma rays. Quantum physicists today describe electromagnetism as one of the four elemental forces of the universe (the other three consist of the weak force, strong force, and gravity).

Almost everything we sense, see, touch and feel comes as a result of this force; it holds atoms together, creates the properties of chemistry and of every element in the periodic chart. Our every thought consists of electrochemical patterns. We cannot exist and, in fact, we consist of the reactions of the electromagnetic force within matter. Yet this most common "thing" remains completely inexplicable. We know nothing at all about its physical mechanism.

By inexplicable, I mean it in its philosophical sense rather than the scientific. Scientifically, light has received the most scrutiny of any other force and provided physicists with its most acclaimed successes, with predictions within one part in millions. Newton, Maxwell and Einstein have produced theories and mathematical descriptions that, through their understanding, have emerged technological achievements such as radio, television and lasers. Yet the success of these scientific theories have thrown virtually no light (pun intended) on the nature of the mechanism of light. How does it actually exist in nature? How can it travel through space? If it exists in space, what describes its shape, size, and boundary limits within space-time? How does this mysterious "action-at-a-distance" occur? No one has yet come close to accurately describing the alleged corporal substance of this ethereal phenomenon, and certainly not without also producing insurmountable paradoxes. Needless to say, the inconsistent descriptions present epistemological problems as well as ontological. Can we actually know anything about sole photons? Perhaps, even in principle, there occurs a quantum barrier to forever prevent knowledge of them. Or perhaps there exists nothing for us to know about; maybe light does not exist at all between emission and detection!

In this treatise I have no intention to show that the phenomenon of light does not exist. On the contrary the vast experimental data provides ample evidence that something occurs at the events. By "event" I mean something happening. For example the source (emission) of light and the detection of light act as measurable events. But where else does it occur? Our descriptions of light forces us to think of light as traveling through space, either as wave, particle or a union of both. But in doing so, we come up against insurmountable logical problems when we try to apply these descriptions to the double-slit experiment or the three polarizer problem. Can we describe light in another way that upholds the data yet eliminates the paradoxes without contradicting the mathematical models?

I will attempt to show that part of the problem may come, not from the nature of light, but in our unexamined use of language, the way in which we try to describe light, and of the philosophical beliefs held by scientists in their attempt to explain the properties of light. Because of the impreciseness of our spoken language, paradoxes and fallacies emerge that tend to confuse rather than to reveal. So also do scientists have their favorite beliefs, perhaps unconsciously born into them from Aristotelean beliefs, learned from rote teachings that appear absolute and unforgiving. I intend to show that perhaps many of the properties of light do not occur "out there" but only in our heads. Indeed, the phenomenon of a discrete packet of energy traveling through space might not exist at all, but rather the idea of its existence comes about through an incorrect way of thinking that derived from the Ancient Greeks and passed onto the 19th century physicists who created the scientific vocabulary we use today.



THE INVENTION OF PHOTONS

There appears only two ways to avoid action-at-a-distance. Either you propose a wave traveling through a medium, (like water and sound) or your propose an independent body that moves from point to point (like baseballs). The idea that light consisted of corpuscles actually began with Isaac Newton, but the mathematical description of quanta began in the early 1900s when Planck proposed the quantum of measured energy. He did not, however, believe in the corporal existence of light. Rather, he thought of light as traveling through a luminiferous ether in accordance with Maxwell's light theory, but measured in discrete lumps which he called quanta (Planck, 1909). The idea of light existing independently as discrete quanta came from Albert Einstein:

"Only the conception of a luminiferous ether as the carrier of the electric and magnetic forces does not fit into the theory described here; for electromagnetic forces appear here not as states of some substance, but rather as independently existing things that are similar to ponderable matter and share with it the feature of inertia." (Einstein, 1907)

Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

I don't mean to chastise Einstein, but rather the leagues of followers (read, believers) who have transmitted his concept in hundreds of scientific papers and placed it upon an untouchable pedestal of Truth. Yet few people realize that Einstein gave a heuristic description of light, not one that he thought of as absolute or as a requirement for his theories:

"For the time being the most natural interpretation seems to me to be that the occurrence of electromagnetic fields of light is associated with singular points just like the occurrence of electrostatic fields according to the electric theory. It is not out of the question that in such a theory the entire energy of the electromagnetic field might be viewed as localized in these singularities, exactly like in the old theory of action at a distance. I more or less imagine each such singular point as being surrounded by a field of force which has essentially the character of a plane wave and whose amplitude decreases with the distance from the singular point. . . I am sure it need not be particularly emphasized that no importance should be attached to such a picture as long as it has not led to an exact theory. All I wanted is briefly to indicate with its help that the two structural properties (the undulatory structure and the quantum structure) simultaneously displayed by radiation according to the Planck formula should not be considered as mutually incompatible." (Einstein, 1909) [bold characters, mine]
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okay that is some meaty stuff
good find!

i like the term heuristic when related to light as i do think there is a lot of information 'out there' and what we see or perceive of it - and ultimately what we can do with it-will depend on the workings of some of our 'slit boxes' -that sounds rude-but our sensory apparatus and their 'centres'


i'm going to need a little thinking time- will be onto it tonight-plan to start with visual perception as it think it's a bit groovy and lends itself to 'seeing'

pun central with light stuff

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Came across it by accident while looking for logical fallacies, it was a link on the bottom of the site. Glad you like it, thought you might.
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thank you.
i can refer to your posts but cannot engage into it as my vocab is not up to the level of my thoughts.
but honestly you guys deserve applause for being so cool headed.
i just wanted to ask: has anybody ever thought that we have a central sun/star in the universe?
thanks again

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