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Paradigm Transformation - Cosmic in Scale

 
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Sickscent I've got to hand it to ya man. I've been reading GLP (and posting A/C) for a long time (pre current owners). Your threads are some of the best I've read - bar none.

Excellent job.

Thank you!
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Thank you. Hopefully, they will only be getting better.
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i developed my own understanding of this universe and my relation to it through my experience coupled with material of differing sorts and along the way never came into or never absorbed as i am now information of this sort. it is beautiful how there is an indefinite connection there!

is this as significant as i think it is? how probable is this convergence?
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Let me say, it seems to be very significant.

Probabilities are probabilities. Find that answer in your own paradigm. The answer to that, in my own paradigm...well the convergence has already taken place, and is in the process of occurring...and yes, it is more beautiful than you can imagine.
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as above.... so below.
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Very stimulating and thought provoking, SS, and other contributors. It sends my mind spinning off in many directions.

For some reason, this segment from Xenus' first post perplexes me:

"A paradigm transformation would only affect those who want things to change, unfortunately that is a very small minority and the world is governed by the majority, what they think they want or what they get told they should want because they are insane and incapable of rational, logical and reasonable thought. The mass populace like things as they are, they think everything is as it should be, why would they want to change anything when they think everything is right? That they are right because of some belief or lie."

I am trying to understand how a paradigm shift would be optional. What you are saying is that the change is possible only on an individual basis? That unless one chooses it, nothing changes? The physical universe is not changing, only our framework for understanding it? Embrace it and all it's implications, or remain stagnant and stunted in an inadequate conceptual framework?
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We are not hopelessly isolated in time and space on a tiny rock, orbiting an insignificant star in an insignificant galaxy. We are hopefully connected with the power and intelligence of the universe.



Furthermore, the only reason Universe exists - is that it is needed for our existence. :)
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hahaha...763...
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Very stimulating and thought provoking, SS, and other contributors. It sends my mind spinning off in many directions.

For some reason, this segment from Xenus' first post perplexes me:

"A paradigm transformation would only affect those who want things to change, unfortunately that is a very small minority and the world is governed by the majority, what they think they want or what they get told they should want because they are insane and incapable of rational, logical and reasonable thought. The mass populace like things as they are, they think everything is as it should be, why would they want to change anything when they think everything is right? That they are right because of some belief or lie."

I am trying to understand how a paradigm shift would be optional. What you are saying is that the change is possible only on an individual basis? That unless one chooses it, nothing changes? The physical universe is not changing, only our framework for understanding it? Embrace it and all it's implications, or remain stagnant and stunted in an inadequate conceptual framework?
 Quoting: Hold the Phone

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thank you.
i can refer to your posts but cannot engage into it as my vocab is not up to the level of my thoughts.
but honestly you guys deserve applause for being so cool headed.
i just wanted to ask: has anybody ever thought that we have a central sun/star in the universe?
thanks again


i was hoping someone would welcome me here...
hmmm, ok. may be i sounded like a tard... hf



hello mauritian pal, i wouldn't worry about your vocab as words should be inadequate for thoughts - but i think we all have something to contribute, else we wouldn't be here

i was lucky enough to visit your beautiful new island this year, meet some of the beautiful people there
and you are right, your lack of welcome was remiss


as for central suns i think yes , it would make sense that we do have a central sun/ a logos from which this universe emanates but it, for me, also makes sense that this itself would be a projection of source , the nature of which we are yet to realise

hope that makes some kind of sense
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ever heard about us revolving(soon) around (what we call) sirius?
which will herald things to come? hf
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thank you.
i can refer to your posts but cannot engage into it as my vocab is not up to the level of my thoughts.
but honestly you guys deserve applause for being so cool headed.
i just wanted to ask: has anybody ever thought that we have a central sun/star in the universe?
thanks again


i was hoping someone would welcome me here...
hmmm, ok. may be i sounded like a tard... hf


Welcome! Sorry that wasn't said earlier Buddhi.
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ohhh thank you op.
i like you
ask and you will hear
ask in a simple way and you will hear in a simple way
ready?
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2010 marks the 4th year in a row that policymakers, researchers, legislators and reporters have gathered in Washington DC to share ideas about space weather. This year, forum organizers plan to sharpen the focus on critical infrastructure protection. The ultimate goal is to improve the nation’s ability to prepare, mitigate, and respond to potentially devastating space weather events.

"I believe we're on the threshold of a new era in which space weather can be as influential in our daily lives as ordinary terrestrial weather." Fisher concludes. "We take this very seriously indeed."
 Quoting: NASA 4th June 2010

[link to science.nasa.gov]

with the confirmation that space weather is now openly using the correct language regarding the electrical nature of our universe and the consequences that the USA government ...hence all governments will now be guided similarly the insider from NASA can now been seen in this light...as an employee of a NASA subcontractor he will have detected the following.....over the past 3 years the military/civilian aspect of the USA associated with defence of the USA national interest hence the worlds national interest regarding threat from off planet source reached the irrevocable conclusion that every dollar spent within the past 60 years and every piece of hard/soft ware put into place to make that defence credible was in fact not only useless in defence but was structured in such a way to make it uniquely venerable to destruction...that is the reality that maybe got lost a little within translation to your insider because at his level what he would experience is that earth was vunerable to destruction and that destruction could occur any second.
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updates to above..

Yeah thats correct. NASA Space Weather has taken hold and for the last four years, the powers that be have gotten together to discuss, not black holes, not dark energy, not dark matter, but THE EU....


Space weather is all about ELECTRICITY, not gravity, not dark matter, not dark energy.
Do not ever think they do not know the truth, they just do not TEACH the truth, but they know....



I see no need to battle, space weather has determined that electric currents are a real issue. Government is listening. We have won the battle. They do not come to determine the cause and effect of gravity waves, dark matter or energy, on satellites. That tells me volumes about what they understand...vs what they preach.
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SS: I know we have all seen this, but frontpage Drudge in red today:
[link to science.nasa.gov]

Masses will soon awaken and freak.
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I am happy and grateful to all of you even though at times I have been hanging on by a "thread" to the words; no pun intended...
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" we were taught in school; positive-negative, black-white, cold-hot, day-night, good-bad and so forth in this yin-yang experience on earth might fall in that category.
Does that mean as more enlightenment occurs more darkness will be produced? Do we need "outside" help to break through the barricade? Is that what the "fluff" is?
Is this what might be meant in the Gospel of the Egyptians (part of the Nag Hammadi codices)
[link to www.gnosis.org]
I assume the reference to the "race" is human race....

"And the flood came as an example, for the consummation of the aeon. But it will be sent into the world because of this race. A conflagration will come upon the earth. And grace will be with those who belong to the race, through the prophets and the guardians who guard the life of the race. Because of this race, famines will occur, and plagues. But these things will happen because of the great, incorruptible race. Because of this race, temptations will come, a falsehood of false prophets. "

I feel close to you.
Best wishes with love and gratitude.
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Good questions! they have been on my mind as well. hf
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...what everything and everybody is going to be as in how the power shift actually manifests within the structure of society which humanity is evolving....in other words... what is it going to mean to be human to another species....what are we going to say to others that signifies what we see ourselves as and what we are ascribing to be more of...
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A beautiful group of 16 pulsar recordings from a near by beautiful star cluster, a southern hemisphere favorite!
Wait for the end of the recording when they all sing together!



The fuzz and stream of a Pulsar Chorus, melodies singing over time and space, an information network lying just beyond perception, raised in the oscillating fields of frequency...our thoughts, so mechanical...Is it any wonder, our misundersatandings? The universe communicates without language, beyond archtypes...through song and intimacy...Is it any wonder, the distance we feel? Remove yourSelf from the equation...embrace the dynamic perfection, of these 16. - SickScent
[link to www.jb.man.ac.uk]



That was just crazy!! Thanks hf


I was hoping some might listen to it. I thought it was awesome. When I first heard it, I wrote that paragraph above...it just flowed out like that.
 Quoting: Sickscent

Reminds me of a dream. It was pitch black but space extended infinitely in all directions and it was filled with voices...trillions...we were singing tones in undulating waves that peaked troughed, and combined all over the place...it was very intimate and organic and the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. Such E motion....
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I am trying to understand how a paradigm shift would be optional. What you are saying is that the change is possible only on an individual basis? That unless one chooses it, nothing changes? The physical universe is not changing, only our framework for understanding it? Embrace it and all it's implications, or remain stagnant and stunted in an inadequate conceptual framework?
 Quoting: Hold the Phone

The power of ignore-ance is strong. But the demonstration of Truth is stronger. The only choice left for some is to turn away and seek a darker place...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I think the problem is that too many do not realize that they have never NOT been connected to this unified field.

They are still looking externally for something magical to happen. Be is the return or Jesus, or benevolent alien intervention, or even just some magical ascension for all of mankind in 2012.

In reality, one has to go within and see that they have ALWAYS and ETERNALLY been connected. Here and NOW. Not at some future point.


Agree. I have said over and over how separated we have become. We are not separated, but most humans have decided to 'pretend' we are...
 Quoting: Sickscent

Truly, the universe conspires to keep us alive ;) Whether we are aware of it or not, there is a myriad lattice of forces that inform our bodies, minds, and souls.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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is this as significant as i think it is? how probable is this convergence?


Let me say, it seems to be very significant.

Probabilities are probabilities. Find that answer in your own paradigm. The answer to that, in my own paradigm...well the convergence has already taken place, and is in the process of occurring...and yes, it is more beautiful than you can imagine.
 Quoting: Sickscent

And when the converged converge....the world will be remade.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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But humans are not separate from all other things. Only part of the whole of all. So in truth, this is about the expansion of creation and the evolution of creation. (of which humans are only a small part). We should not be merely concerned with strictly human construct.

There is something much grander going on than species development. I say this because we are not our human counterpart. We are much more than that. Same as everything else.
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The human counterpart is vehicle for not only the interpretation of information along several spectrums but the expression of them as well. As multi dimensional beings, perhaps what we are doing here is fine tuning this part of our total body and expression to mesh with the rest of our self. Like focusing on the transmition of a car and adding a extra gear to give greater power transfer.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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[link to www.holoscience.com]

The consequences and possibilities in an Electric Universe are far-reaching. First we must acknowledge our profound ignorance! We know nothing of the origin of the universe. There was no Big Bang. The visible universe is static and much smaller than we thought. We have no idea of the age or extent of the universe. We don't know the ultimate source of the electrical energy or matter that forms the universe. Galaxies are shaped by electrical forces and form plasma focuses at their centers, which periodically eject quasars and jets of electrons. Quasars evolve into companion galaxies. Galaxies form families with identifiable "parents" and "children". Stars are electrical “transformers” not thermonuclear devices. There are no neutron stars or Black Holes. We don't know the age of stars because the thermonuclear evolution theory does not apply to them. Supernovae are totally inadequate as a source of heavy elements. We do not know the age of the Earth because radioactive clocks can be upset by powerful electric discharges.

The powerful electric discharges that form a stellar photosphere create the heavy elements that appear in their spectra. Stars "give birth" electrically to companion stars and gas giant planets. Life is most likely to form inside the radiant plasma envelope of a brown dwarf star! Our Sun has gained new planets, including the Earth. That accounts for the “fruit-salad” of their characteristics. It is not the most hospitable place for life since small changes in the distant Sun could freeze or sterilize the Earth. Planetary surfaces and atmospheres are deposited during their birth from a larger body and during electrical encounters with other planets. Planetary surfaces bear the electrical scars of such cosmic events. The speed of light is not a barrier. Real-time communication over galactic distances may be possible. Therefore time is universal and time travel is impossible. Anti-gravity is possible. Space has no extra dimensions in which to warp or where parallel universes may exist. There is no "zero-point" vacuum energy. The invisible energy source in space is electrical. Clean nuclear power is available from resonant catalytic nuclear systems. Higher energy is available from resonant catalytic chemical systems than in the usual chemical reactions. Biological enzymes are capable of utilizing resonant nuclear catalysis to transmute elements. Biological systems show evidence of communicating via resonant chemical systems, which may lend a physical explanation to the work of Rupert Sheldrake. DNA does not hold the key to life but is more like a blueprint for a set of components and tools in a factory. We may never be able to read the human genome and tell whether it represents a creature with two legs or six because the information that controls the assembly line is external to the DNA. There is more to life than chemistry.

We are not hopelessly isolated in time and space on a tiny rock, orbiting an insignificant star in an insignificant galaxy. We are hopefully connected with the power and intelligence of the universe.


Now that is profound.


Hey Resister, you haven't seen anything yet. Everything is about to get 'profound'.

I'm sure he won't mind me posting this...so:

What everything and everybody is going to be, as in how the power shift actually manifests within the structure of society into which humanity is evolving, is going to be reliant on certain things.

What is it going to mean to be human to another species?
What are we going to say to others that signifies what we see ourselves as...and what we are ascribing to be more of...?

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Within you and Without you
George Harrison, Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band 1967

We were talking
About the space between us all
And the people
Who hide themselves behind a wall
Of illusion
Never glimpse the truth
Then it's far too late
When they pass away

We were talking
About the love we all could share
When we find it
To try our best to hold it there
With our love, with our love
We could save the world, if they only knew

Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change
And to see you're really only very small
And life flows on within you and without you

We were talking
About the love that's gone so cold
And the people
Who gain the world and lose their soul
They don't know
They can't see
Are you one of them

When you've seen beyond yourself
Then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there
And the time will come when you see we're all one
And life flows on within you and without you
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2010 marks the 4th year in a row that policymakers, researchers, legislators and reporters have gathered in Washington DC to share ideas about space weather. This year, forum organizers plan to sharpen the focus on critical infrastructure protection. The ultimate goal is to improve the nation’s ability to prepare, mitigate, and respond to potentially devastating space weather events.

"I believe we're on the threshold of a new era in which space weather can be as influential in our daily lives as ordinary terrestrial weather." Fisher concludes. "We take this very seriously indeed."
[link to science.nasa.gov]

with the confirmation that space weather is now openly using the correct language regarding the electrical nature of our universe and the consequences that the USA government ...hence all governments will now be guided similarly the insider from NASA can now been seen in this light...as an employee of a NASA subcontractor he will have detected the following.....over the past 3 years the military/civilian aspect of the USA associated with defence of the USA national interest hence the worlds national interest regarding threat from off planet source reached the irrevocable conclusion that every dollar spent within the past 60 years and every piece of hard/soft ware put into place to make that defence credible was in fact not only useless in defence but was structured in such a way to make it uniquely venerable to destruction...that is the reality that maybe got lost a little within translation to your insider because at his level what he would experience is that earth was vunerable to destruction and that destruction could occur any second.
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Very, very interesting post aether.

All the dollars, all the man hours, all the hard/soft ware devoted to the defence could be fucking worthless.

Uniquely venerable to destruction...well, guess all the plans weren't quite thought out properly, heh? LMAO

Can you imagine, "Oh, by the way...".

My question is, why the hell wouldn't someone have known that and adjusted the tech and allocated funds towards that tech to protect it?

Well, someone must've known...someone also must've moved forward anyway.
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Very stimulating and thought provoking, SS, and other contributors. It sends my mind spinning off in many directions.

For some reason, this segment from Xenus' first post perplexes me:

"A paradigm transformation would only affect those who want things to change, unfortunately that is a very small minority and the world is governed by the majority, what they think they want or what they get told they should want because they are insane and incapable of rational, logical and reasonable thought. The mass populace like things as they are, they think everything is as it should be, why would they want to change anything when they think everything is right? That they are right because of some belief or lie."

I am trying to understand how a paradigm shift would be optional. What you are saying is that the change is possible only on an individual basis? That unless one chooses it, nothing changes? The physical universe is not changing, only our framework for understanding it? Embrace it and all it's implications, or remain stagnant and stunted in an inadequate conceptual framework?
 Quoting: Hold the Phone


I think Xenus is correct if the global societies had a choice as to whether to move forward with a paradigm change or not.

My understanding is that things are moving in the direction of a paradigm change from 'outside' sources both human and environment spawned. There are many who will not necessarily have a choice because changes are coming.

A good example of this is the recent reply by aether. Science is finding out that things are vulnerable that was thought to be fairly safe...aether's reply concerns national defense issues and the inability to protect their 'systems' vulnerability aspects. Think solar storms for one...
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Yes. And the cosmic SCALE is NOW proceeding into the next octave, as the plant kingdom is very well aware.

All singularity(s) sing as ONE. For that is the heart of the devine paradox.

"Resistance is FUTILE."
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Yes. And the cosmic SCALE is NOW proceeding into the next octave, as the plant kingdom is very well aware.

All singularity(s) sing as ONE. For that is the heart of the devine paradox.

"Resistance is FUTILE."
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It looks like it is going to be that way, lol.

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