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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/09/2010 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morning sickscent......so now the usa government is publicly aware that the defence of earth from natural off planet disaster/military control of global human affairs via space weapons is a NO GO...the thinking may easily revert to president reagans thought pattern..... Quoting: aether 996585"In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world" Speech to the United Nations General Assembly, 42nd General Assembly September 21, 1987 HAHAHAHAHA! Publicly aware? Recent NASA statements...? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/09/2010 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for a naturaly optimistic guy i`m quite proud of that doom... Quoting: aether 996585it`s not the aliens we need to worry about....it`s our failure ever to recognise the nature of the universe we exist within....right now on the presidents desk from those he knows and trusts is a document that simple states that our entire global civilisation is constructed around electricity and knowbody knows what electricity is any more...what they do know... is what it is not.... And so the ground shifts beneath them...and I bet it doesn't feel all that great. |
aether User ID: 996585 United Kingdom 06/09/2010 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just a dude thank you......translation of what your saying into physics has occured....the philosphical reality of what your saying is occuring as the physics (information) alters the minds of those whom have made the discoveries.. the discoverers by tradition of human society inhabit the near top of the social power pyramid(s)...i believe the next step is to translate what your saying into sequences of words that transmit to all in conjunction with the now peer read evidence that proves you are correct |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/09/2010 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just a dude thank you......translation of what your saying into physics has occured....the philosphical reality of what your saying is occuring as the physics (information) alters the minds of those whom have made the discoveries.. the discoverers by tradition of human society inhabit the near top of the social power pyramid(s)...i believe the next step is to translate what your saying into sequences of words that transmit to all in conjunction with the now peer read evidence that proves you are correct Quoting: aether 996585...hence the title of this thread. |
aether User ID: 996585 United Kingdom 06/09/2010 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes sickscent...nasa came on board nov.2009....i put their correspondence on xena and your thread somewhere..flipped xena out for a day..lol I see no need to battle, space weather has determined that electric currents are a real issue. Government is listening. We have won the battle. They do not come to determine the cause and effect of gravity waves, dark matter or energy, on satellites. That tells me volumes about what they understand...vs what they preach. thats the same people commenting on this SS: I know we have all seen this, but frontpage Drudge in red today: Quoting: AC[link to science.nasa.gov] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/09/2010 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes sickscent...nasa came on board nov.2009....i put their correspondence on xena and your thread somewhere..flipped xena out for a day..lol Quoting: aether 996585I see no need to battle, space weather has determined that electric currents are a real issue. Government is listening. We have won the battle. They do not come to determine the cause and effect of gravity waves, dark matter or energy, on satellites. That tells me volumes about what they understand...vs what they preach. thats the same people commenting on this SS: I know we have all seen this, but frontpage Drudge in red today: [link to science.nasa.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 995595 United States 06/09/2010 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our Solar System is rising. Picture an ankh. Now visualize the circular ring below the crossbars (horizontal bars) and extend the vertical cross-piece to form a plus sign. The ring rises through the crossbars until it’s centered with respect to the plus sign. This is a tuning point, where all elements are in balance. This is our communion with the elements, where the natural flow reflects harmony of our Galaxy. The horizontal cross-bars represent the Songs of the Air and of the Water. The vertical bar represent the Songs of the Earth and of the Sun/Fire. We traverse this point (ring rising) as the Fire rises and become closer in tune (and in the ankh geometry) to the Sun. At this level we are more in tune with the Sun than with the elements. The ankh is in relevant planetary alignments as well as in the human form. Extend your arms and the left arm is Air, right arm is Water, your feet are on Earth and head above the crossbar. The fire rises within and circulates around our heads, pineal near the center. Focusing the pineal leads to compression and singularity of mind and a central point within the “ring”. Expanding the pineal by not focusing releases the energy omnidirectionally as we make communion with the Solar System. This is the Rose, a beautiful gift. Now picture an X, the shape of an hourglass. This represents Galactic time/frequency. Our Solar System as a bubble rises to the point of constriction in the hourglass. This is a point beyond which the sand in the hourglass moves the slowest. At this point, grain flow and thus time slow down dramatically. As the bubble continues to rise in the hourglass it stays in a slow time domain. This is the same as viewing the River of Life, eventually leading a drifting boat down through a “delta” (notice the pyramid symbology) then through strong currents to eventually drift along the Deep Blue Sea… It’s a peaceful place with fewer distortions. This X is also in the human form. Spread your arms and legs and you have it. The fire rising within also activates the pituitary gland, the seat of control of forward time – stop and go. But the forward flow can be controlled as well. This is our bodyclock. When “stopped” we tune into the natural circadian frequency. The pituitary gland also lies beneath the X formed by the optical chiasma, a horizontal X. The coupling of the horizontal X of the chiasma with the vertical X of the body creates a gyroscope. Ballet dancers surely know how to minimize cortical disorientation as they spin. We balance our gyroscope through stillness of body and mind, with vertical spine and a horizontal head. If standing, we vibrate with a longer base wavelength. When seated, the diminished vertical dimension results in lower base wavelength, to which our heartbeat tunes. When lying down we rotate our gyroscope to establish our gyroscopes offset of vertical to local horizontal. A tuned gyroscope provides for balance and agility. The pituitary gland is like a valve. Each one of us can slow down our bodyclocks and be more in tune with the Earth’s rhythms and the earthclock. How we react to the world around us determines the flow of body-time. With this knowledge, we all become more in tune with nature. We all then “hear’ the Songs. Then we will ”Sing” of the Majesty of All. |
just a dude User ID: 995595 United States 06/09/2010 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our Solar System is rising... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 995595oops didn't notice I wasn't logged in. --- Tuning in to the Earth, Solar System, Galaxies and beyond is integral to Our Design. This is spiritual and corporeal evolution of consciousness. What an incredible gift we have. One person, in harmony, affects the many around him/her. This spreads proximally through communion with the elements. This is shared, for example, through the spoken Word or Thought through exhaled breath. The Word, the Truth, the Love, are carried by the Wind. Untruths are not carried, as they interfere with the base carrier wave. Only the Truth can create new order within the neg-entropic constructs of electrons and positrons. The air then swirls, eddy upon eddy, with a rhythmic fractal dance as the Word is shared with all, spreading more and more as it goes. “The answer, my friend, is blowing in the Wind.” - Bob Dylan Heed, the soft and the subtle, the simplest ways to communicate, the sweetest ways to have communion with Nature. No need to push, no need to shout, the Word gets out. No need to interfere with the natural process, just a gentle impulse will do. Lo and behold, you are creative, too. As it is within you, so it is beyond you. Last Edited by just a dude on 06/09/2010 03:51 PM |
:) User ID: 997381 Canada 06/09/2010 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quantavolution and Solaria Binaria If you will permit me now, I would like to define the term Quantavolution. Afterwards, I can proceed to introduce the theory of Solaria Binaria. Quantavolution refers to great changes of both inorganic and organic realms of existence happening swiftly, powerfully, and on a large scale. The means of quantavolution are largely electromagnetic. That is, the theory of dynamic physics may eventually treat most or all natural energy operations as originating in electricity. Gravitation has lost prestige as an all-explainer in physics and astronomy, and might conceivably be dispensed with in quantavolution theory. Quantavolutions are catastrophes, but they are constructive as well as destructive. For example, if you prefer mammals to dinosaurs as your pets, then possibly you would regard the comets or meteoroids that struck the Earth at the end of the Cretaceous and put an end to the dinosaurs as a stroke of good luck, a quantavolution that was on the whole favorable from a mammalian and human point of view. When a quantavolution occurs, the phenomena of air, water, earth, and existence change sharply. Logically, then, every science is concerned with quantavolutions, past and future. Every sphere of being is affected, so we can say Q is holospheric. Thousands of plant and animal species extincted with the famous dinosaurs. The stratigraphy of much of the Earth changed. The atmosphere changed. The motions of the Earth changed, how much we do not yet know. As a matter of fact, we know very little yet about the events and changes that took place when the dinosaurs felt the disastrous effects of falling bodies from outer space. But name me a field of learning, and I will give you a suitable subject for a dissertation in that field on a problem of quantavolution. Linguistics, for another instance, finds every language loaded with ancient words of disaster and electricity and punishing gods. A study by Hugh Crosthwaite tells us that about 15% of the words of Hebrew, Latin, Greek, and Egyptian are connected in some fashion with electricity. Quantavolution is not a theory that I can express mathematically. It is a cognitive theory, or perhaps only a heuristic theory. I can writeit in signs, as if it were a formula. This might help to remember it. Q = C(SISa)x × 3(a...n) where Q = quantavolution X = exponential rising and subsiding C = change x 3 = multiplied by the sum of S = suddenness a..n = all phenomena affected I = intensity Sa = scope Thus: If a meteor (or comet) strikes at "Chassenon, France" and is 1.5 km in diameter, striking with a speed of 20 k/second, coming from the Northwest, it will burst open, within seconds, a great crater, and shoot up a towering column of fire, gas, and debris, a terrestrial tsunami whose swells will become arcs of hills, and all forms of rocks for 20 km around will be metamorphosed, while practically all life forms will be extincted up to a radius of 500 km, and most habitats around the world and the atmosphere everywhere will be affected to different degrees but markedly. A new world will be soon established over the vast area , and when humans come to inhabit it a long time afterwards, they will not recognize its nature and learned scientists will call it a volcano, until they finally realize that the strange rocks providing the natives with beautiful stone for building are not sedimentary, and then finally, 17 years after a book called Worlds in Collision raises a hullabaloo, a leading French scientist will visit colleagues in Germany at the Ries crater; he will change his mind, and initiate 27 years of research and persuading other scientists that they are dealing with an exoterrestrial meteoritic phenomenon . In 1994 a conference called specially for the purpose, gives its blessing to the site, and in 1995 a geological map of the area is produced. The earlier tale of the discovery of the catastrophic origin of the horrendous scablands of Washington State by Professor J. H. Bretz, and the acceptance of his findings, took several decades. Similar stories can be told about an increasing number of places around the world. Old volcanoes are turning into meteor craters. I wonder whether Italian geologists could be wrong in regarding Lago di Bolsena as a typical extinct volcano crater. The Roman encyclopedist Pliny said that it was the spot where a Jovian thunderbolt had destroyed the Etruscan city of Volsinium. Today I can introduce these matters without being contradicted. Fifty years ago, if I said them to a respectable audience, I would be regarded as a strange character who belongs to the fringes of outer space. Immanuel Velikovsky had much to do with this change of paradigm, as you will be hearing today and tomorrow. He had much to do with my partial shift in mid-life from a social historian to a universal natural historian, or, maybe I should say, a cosmologist. I would add, however, that the new paradigm of quantavolution was bound to happen, with or without my old friend Velikovsky. All history is that way, is it not? -- political history, social history, the history of science? History can be pushed forward a bit or dragged back, but it cannot be cut out of whole cloth by any man or woman. It should not surprise anyone, then, that predecessors can be found for most of the elements of Velikovsky's work, and these forerunners keep turning up from odd quarters. When I reoriented my intellectual telescope, I could perceive what appeared to me new large regions for investigation. I might even see in old facts a remarkably new history of the solar system. And so, around 1975, I invented the theory of Solaria Binaria. I began to imagine the history of the solar system as the career of a speeding, electrically charged star that destabilized when it entered upon a region of space that supported a markedly different electric charge. The Sun then underwent a nova explosion and fragmented into a double star that evolved into our present planetary configuration. The Sun, I imagined, threw off a large fragment, about 7% of its mass. It bound the fragment to itself at a proper distance, however, that is, a distance that would enable it to maintain a powerful electric arc and an associated magnetic field. What can be done in a child's playroom may be true of the cosmos. A magnetic field of dust and debris circled around the electric current and was kicked back into the larger bodies or formed smaller bodies, the dense planets. The area of magnetic forces was enormous and I called it the magnetic tube, which constituted what I called a plenum of charges, gases, and rock. You can see how this plenum of electrified plasma would provide millions of times the area for experimentation with forming life than might be found on the little planet Earth. The plenum provided 60 million times the volume of the Earth's oceans and atmosphere today, as a breeding ground for living organisms. The electrical energy liberated by the central arc into the plenum would also have been exponentially greater than the electrical energy available today for experimentation in the forming of living organisms. It was in this plenum that organic forms might originate and develop before they landed on Earth, or before they were domiciled on the planets as the plenum diminished in size. The time factor must also be examined. Here just the nova explosion itself, in a few months before creating the system, would have liberated a creative energy equivalent to two billion years of Earth history. All in all, Solaria Binaria would appear to be millions of time more effective in producing the living species of today than mainstream science theory would provide. Still, my collaborator Earl Milton and I were dissatisfied, because the probabilities of life originating in any conceivable volume of plasma are far beyond the opportunities afforded even by the Solaria Binaria system. Therefore we had to become cell engineers and reconstruct how electrical energy working with various chemical elements could build an organism that could ingest and excrete, meanwhile reproducing. Certain accidents that occur often in these processes turn out to be helpful and are retained. I think that our scenario is convincing, even if too elaborate to detail here. Too, there is an element of teleology in our theory. I conjectured that any gene that mutates for any reason signals all the genes of the organism to assist in living with its change. If they can cooperate, the other genes do so, and an organic change takes place and is included in successful reproductions. Perhaps because I felt Napoleonic at this moment, I called this gene that gives the acceptable signal to all the other genes, the 'leader gene,' and compared the gene with the common soldier of the armies of Napoleon: "Every soldier," he is reported to have said, "carries the baton of a Marshal in his knapsack." The binary partner of the Sun I called Uranus after the nebulous first Great God of the Greeks. When Uranus developed an instability and lost mass, its greater remaining part could be called by us 'Saturn,' and when a nova exploded Saturn, the larger part was identified by me as what would be called 'Jupiter.' Distances between the dense and gaseous plants and the Sun stretched out as the electric current diminished, and at the same time the planets moved ever closer to the arterial center of the great electric current, until they were agreeably on the same plane, called now the plane of the ecliptic, and there the motion that they had in circling around the current in the magnetic tube turned into the motion that we know as their rotation. I had already placed the dinosaur disaster and other quantavolutions of the solar system into the memory of early mankind, so I could not contradict myself by using the long conventional time scales. And how could I extract the Moon from the Pacific Basin in the memorial time of human beings? It would take years before I could settle upon an age to give to for Solaria Binaria. Then, with my comrade Earl Milton aiding and abetting me, the question was asked: how much time would be reasonably enough to do everything that had to be done with the sun and its descendants down to today, employing the huge energy of electricity, incomparably more forceful than the puny strength of the force of gravitation. We chose the round figure of a million years for the history of the solar system, from when the Sun went nova down to the present time. In the 18 years since SB was published, evidence supporting its principal theses has expanded greatly. In regard to Quantavolution itself, I would guess that the number and proportion of scholars and scientists who accept in large part the formulation of Q=c(SIS)x 3(A...n) has increased from 10,000 to 6,000,000 or 600 times, and represents 60% of the 10,000,000 scholars and scientists of the world. This has happened despite the fact that they do not even know the word Quantavolution. In view of this increased open-mindedness (or is it gullibility?) for novel theories, the literature of Q has increased greatly. When I first entered the field, Velikovsky's work and a few other items of the period from 1927 to 1963 constituted the relevant bibliography. For the rest of one's references, one had to go to collections of ancient myths and to early Greek and Roman philosophers, to holy scriptures of the Jews, Persians, Hindus, and to rare writers of the last thousand years. The most important were Whinston, a little-read disciple of Newton; Boulanger a Frenchman of the Enlightenment a century later, whose books were called to Velikovsky's attention by Livio Stecchini, an unrecognized great historian of science whose works have yet to be published, although he has been dead for decades; to a brief monograph by Xavier Kugler on the erratic behavior of Venus and the weird language of the Sibylline oracles, which came late to Velikovsky, and was also introduced to us by Stecchini; to the work of Melvin Cook, which also came late to Velikovsky; to the Hoerbigger School, that Velikovsky avoided because he felt Hoerbigger was a proto-Nazi; and to Claude Shaeffer, who worked with the French resistance and wrote his books on comparative archaeology in London during World War II. My bibliography of 1981 in Chaos and Creation may have been the largest; I put into it any item that gave a glimmer of hope to my theories. There has been also an expansion of evidence in support of specific theses of Solaria Binaria. That there are many binary and other multiple-partner systems is now universally admitted. There may be millions of them in our single galaxy. These are recent discoveries. Many stellar binaries have planets that move in some relationship to the principal partners. Many craters exist everywhere in the solar system. Even asteroids can carry craters. Electrical effects are widely remarked. A web site called Intersect and a Web magazine called Thoth, both under the lively direction of astronomer Amy Acheson, pursues the issue of the electrification of the universe. The development of plasma physics has speeded up and has found many applications to cosmology. I might note that, in 1963, I wrote of Velikovsky: "He found space a vacuum and has made it a plenum." When I conjectured the plenum of Solaria Binaria, I could have used the new language of plasma physics. Instead, Milton and I used other words for essentially the same phenomena. The filling of space by astrophysicists has proceeded until some 99% of the matter in the universe can be characterized as plasma. It is a forceful confirmation of the tube, sac, and plenum proposed in Solaria. The threatening habits of asteroids and comets and their frequently unexpected behavior reminds one of our reconstruction of the many "erratic" movements of the solar system bodies in history. The bewildering movements of magnetic fields of the earth as a whole and in its parts over history, a mystifying subject, can be simplified and better understood if the short-term reconstruction provided in Solaria Binaria is pursued. A proliferation of splendid photographs of space objects of all kinds and of all regions of the Earth has given us countless occasions to confirm the pages of Solaria Binaria, none of substance to deny it, so far. The collection of myths applicable to Q theory has been expanded, much of it represented in the work of David Talbott in regard to the planet-god Saturn. The genome projects that have decoded thousands of genes have lent some support to the 'leader gene' theory I proposed in Homo Schizo and again with Milton in Solaria Binaria. There may well be a system within the genome for following the leader when a mutation is proposed. Discoveries of many correct fits between widely separated continental masses have continued while the theory of a land-covered Earth until the blow-out of the Pacific Basin have in no way been affected adversely. Discovery of relationships among all the languages circling the basin from which the Moon emerged and correlating with the Ring of Fire of earthquakes and volcanism indicate that a community of language families existed before lunagenesis and/or that a recent event emptied the vast region of people and then quickly allowed their repopulation thereafter by related peoples. The willingness to advocate and accept theories of the origin of life forms in the plenum of solaria binaria has grown with the increase in similar theories of the origin of life in space and atmospheres or its transit from comets from other worlds. The critical transactions between Jupiter and its system of moons were expected under the Solaria Binaria model, including the explosion of large cometary fragments on Jupiter a few years ago. The rapidity of stratification of large masses and differently composed materials after a quantavolution or even isolated natural disasters, so as to mimic old age, is a deserving topic in search of compilers employing statistical methods. The radical reconstruction of human history from the origin of mankind to the present epoch has held its own in general, but is awaiting a rigorous editing in the view of writings by Gunnar Heinsohn, Peter James and other critics. The work of Mandelkehr and others evidencing a quantavolution of worldwide proportions around 2250 B.C. tends to support the events attending the so-called Mercury Period of Solaria Binaria. Debate over the age of the Earth and the accidents befalling it has expanded. A far-reaching controversy deals with the response of radioactive elements to electromagnetic currents; laboratory experiments are especially needed. To the trenchant critiques of Melvin Cook against the constancy of radioactive decay measures are now added a new type of criticism, based on the idea that the speed of light is not constant and therefore atomic time is not constant, and therefore the radioactive decay measures that are correlated to the atomic clocks cannot be valid. A billion years can become a thousand years if the speed of light has changed, but is used in a measuring instrument as if it were a constant. The astronomer Barry Sutterfield has been pressing the case for this theory. I would not wish to commit myself on it yet... [link to www.grazian-archive.net] |
Edmond Dantes User ID: 768505 Canada 06/10/2010 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dear ''sickscent' I have enjoyed your pdf ''the coming'. I may not agree with your spiritual leanings but believe you are a very good synthesizer of astrophysical information. I wanted to thankyou for all your hard work. I enjoy reading your posts please keep up the good work!! BEST regards Edmond Dantes 1:1.618 ratio |
rken User ID: 998607 Thailand 06/10/2010 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would seem that one consciousness exist throughout creation. Therefore thoughts Ideas, communication manifests instantly in all places. some peoples Idea of black holes or the holographic universe etc. Also explains concepts such as the hundreth monkey. All communicates on a sub atomic level. All is one and mainifest in everything. This consciousness would also give form that we precieve, to all things. Energy/mind would exist and cound manifest instantly at any point. The same energy/mind flows through all creation. As above so below. The universe exist in the mind of the all. SS and all who have posted on this thread thanks I really enjoy threads like these. Have the wise men of all ages always known what science is just discovering? understanding it with our minds is sometimes necessary for some to allow themselves to experience it, onenes, and make the necessary changes of letting go of past limiting beliefs for new more enlightened understandings, based on knowing rather than rational thought. |
Hold the Phone User ID: 977661 United States 06/10/2010 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread just keeps getting better with all the contributions. I am flashing back to the book called "The Tao of Physics" which I read over 30 years ago. I was on this path once, but got sidetracked into playing the game. Marriage, job, kids, possessions, etc. Another book I read many years ago - "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" . This paradigm shift you speak of has been brewing for a great while now. I think I understand how it is optional, as I reflect upon my own life - seeing that I was once on the trail of this paradigm shift and somewhere made the choice to become embroiled and preoccupied with the mundane. Perhaps this dis - ease I have been experiencing in the middle of my life is a hunger to retrace my steps and go back to that fork in the road where I turned away from this quest for deeper understanding, and instead fell into line with the way of all men. Many thanks to you bright folks who are grappling with these mind-bending concepts. I think I'll tag along. |
rken User ID: 998607 Thailand 06/10/2010 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But humans are not separate from all other things. Only part of the whole of all. So in truth, this is about the expansion of creation and the evolution of creation. (of which humans are only a small part). We should not be merely concerned with strictly human construct. Quoting: Rex Khristos IsraelThere is something much grander going on than species development. I say this because we are not our human counterpart. We are much more than that. Same as everything else. The human counterpart is vehicle for not only the interpretation of information along several spectrums but the expression of them as well. As multi dimensional beings, perhaps what we are doing here is fine tuning this part of our total body and expression to mesh with the rest of our self. Like focusing on the transmition of a car and adding a extra gear to give greater power transfer. Yes I agree. It would seem that we, our being, allows for the expression of the All or one etc.on levels not allowed by other beings. Physical, emotional, mental and spiritual. The veil Of Isis allows for us the ability to experience something other than self. Nice post thanks |
rken User ID: 998607 Thailand 06/10/2010 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am happy and grateful to all of you even though at times I have been hanging on by a "thread" to the words; no pun intended... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 993786"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" we were taught in school; positive-negative, black-white, cold-hot, day-night, good-bad and so forth in this yin-yang experience on earth might fall in that category. Does that mean as more enlightenment occurs more darkness will be produced? Do we need "outside" help to break through the barricade? Is that what the "fluff" is? Is this what might be meant in the Gospel of the Egyptians (part of the Nag Hammadi codices) [link to www.gnosis.org] I assume the reference to the "race" is human race.... "And the flood came as an example, for the consummation of the aeon. But it will be sent into the world because of this race. A conflagration will come upon the earth. And grace will be with those who belong to the race, through the prophets and the guardians who guard the life of the race. Because of this race, famines will occur, and plagues. But these things will happen because of the great, incorruptible race. Because of this race, temptations will come, a falsehood of false prophets. " I feel close to you. Best wishes with love and gratitude. Hi yes it can get confusing. But it seems like you are mixing apples and oranges and that could be where some of the confusion is coming from. Many things which appear to be opposite are not but just different degrees of the same thing. Such as light and dark, hot and cold. Darkness is the absense of light. Hot and cold are degrees of the same thing where does hot leave off and cold begin is relative to who is experiencing it. Again cold is the absence of heat not its opposite. So we could increase the light, heat, awareness, consciousness with out increasing its so called opposite and still be in balance. enjoy |
rken User ID: 998607 Thailand 06/10/2010 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread just keeps getting better with all the contributions. Quoting: Hold the PhoneI am flashing back to the book called "The Tao of Physics" which I read over 30 years ago. I was on this path once, but got sidetracked into playing the game. Marriage, job, kids, possessions, etc. Another book I read many years ago - "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" . This paradigm shift you speak of has been brewing for a great while now. I think I understand how it is optional, as I reflect upon my own life - seeing that I was once on the trail of this paradigm shift and somewhere made the choice to become embroiled and preoccupied with the mundane. Perhaps this dis - ease I have been experiencing in the middle of my life is a hunger to retrace my steps and go back to that fork in the road where I turned away from this quest for deeper understanding, and instead fell into line with the way of all men. Many thanks to you bright folks who are grappling with these mind-bending concepts. I think I'll tag along. I have met many that feel as you do. But be assured you are right where you need to be and did what was needed for your growth. You cannot fall off the path, its impossible. lol |
Buddhi User ID: 890472 Mauritius 06/10/2010 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you people intellectualize so much. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990807intellectualize= in telepathy actualize actualize= never realize whereas intelligence= in telepathy generate wherever and whenever it is generated it is realized and can be operated upon. that is why intuition will always remain 'latent' and not a 'talent' i waited but you did not see me. now i am going. hoping that i will be seen. and given love out of just love for the sake of love for i am love but you just missed for now. that's ok,some others might cross your 'way' just like you are crossing our 'way' we are here every day of yours until you leave our'way' after that we cannot say dearest buddhi, i'm sorry you've chosen to withdraw for now and i'm sorry you felt unseen you know it won't be long though, before others see and need your thoughts i think though we are all on the same path, just different stages, different routes as we should -can't all be at the same place-it would get crowded and we need each other's experience as to telepathy- it's latent undoubtedly but we have to learn to hold ourselves upright before the desire to propel kicks in for me, i think it safer to keep thoughts more contained until they have been mastered along with the other lines of development as , without the control of such powerful emissions, to open one's head to another's thoughts for the purpose of such pure unadulterated communication could be dangerous for us- and them but the frustration i understand- if we could just communicate without the layers we have hidden ourselves behind, how easily could we see ourselves and others i'm cautious by nature- and still finding my balance intuiting the path but those are my thoughts on this it will come in it's own good time imo i do think we need to begin this discussion with intellectualised thoughts though and then see their limitations for ourselves it kind of how we've been schooled it is what needs challenging and there is little point trying to explain a picture with words in a language one doesn't understand even shouting it slowly won't change that-i know, i've tried! good old brit's, always try my granny used to say 'there are many ways to skin a cat' she was a honey the cat gets skinned though, so it's all good ( sorry cat lovers -it's just an analogy) with love buddhi, just love truth revels and relishes in its other part, untruth. when the parts will acknowledge(act with knowledge)the whole and the whole will recognise ( re cognise!) the parts... and 'finally' ( final illness) will permit the elevation (in space levitation) to a new episode of the endless seeking between ( bet 'we'and win ) the parts and the whole.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 937496 United States 06/10/2010 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one new delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first. Quoting: Sickscent…Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." -– Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1852 Hopefully the next big thing we all fix our minds upon is love |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/10/2010 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread just keeps getting better with all the contributions. Quoting: Hold the PhoneI am flashing back to the book called "The Tao of Physics" which I read over 30 years ago. I was on this path once, but got sidetracked into playing the game. Marriage, job, kids, possessions, etc. Another book I read many years ago - "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" . This paradigm shift you speak of has been brewing for a great while now. I think I understand how it is optional, as I reflect upon my own life - seeing that I was once on the trail of this paradigm shift and somewhere made the choice to become embroiled and preoccupied with the mundane. Perhaps this dis - ease I have been experiencing in the middle of my life is a hunger to retrace my steps and go back to that fork in the road where I turned away from this quest for deeper understanding, and instead fell into line with the way of all men. Many thanks to you bright folks who are grappling with these mind-bending concepts. I think I'll tag along. Hey Hold the Phone. "The Tao of Physics" was the book that set me on the path. I read it decades ago also. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/10/2010 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dear ''sickscent' Quoting: Edmond DantesI have enjoyed your pdf ''the coming'. I may not agree with your spiritual leanings but believe you are a very good synthesizer of astrophysical information. I wanted to thankyou for all your hard work. I enjoy reading your posts please keep up the good work!! BEST regards Edmond Dantes |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/10/2010 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am happy and grateful to all of you even though at times I have been hanging on by a "thread" to the words; no pun intended... Quoting: rken"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" we were taught in school; positive-negative, black-white, cold-hot, day-night, good-bad and so forth in this yin-yang experience on earth might fall in that category. Does that mean as more enlightenment occurs more darkness will be produced? Do we need "outside" help to break through the barricade? Is that what the "fluff" is? Is this what might be meant in the Gospel of the Egyptians (part of the Nag Hammadi codices) [link to www.gnosis.org] I assume the reference to the "race" is human race.... "And the flood came as an example, for the consummation of the aeon. But it will be sent into the world because of this race. A conflagration will come upon the earth. And grace will be with those who belong to the race, through the prophets and the guardians who guard the life of the race. Because of this race, famines will occur, and plagues. But these things will happen because of the great, incorruptible race. Because of this race, temptations will come, a falsehood of false prophets. " I feel close to you. Best wishes with love and gratitude. Hi yes it can get confusing. But it seems like you are mixing apples and oranges and that could be where some of the confusion is coming from. Many things which appear to be opposite are not but just different degrees of the same thing. Such as light and dark, hot and cold. Darkness is the absense of light. Hot and cold are degrees of the same thing where does hot leave off and cold begin is relative to who is experiencing it. Again cold is the absence of heat not its opposite. So we could increase the light, heat, awareness, consciousness with out increasing its so called opposite and still be in balance. enjoy Great explanation Rken. Good/Evil is a human concept, it is not a fundamental of universe/reality. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/10/2010 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one new delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 937496…Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." -– Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1852 Hopefully the next big thing we all fix our minds upon is love Love is harmony. It is resonance patterns that build upon eachother to create new forms. That is 'enjoyable' to creation... |
rken User ID: 998795 Thailand 06/10/2010 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always look forward to your next thread. you have a nack for starting good ones. Keep up the good work. Most enjoyable and informative. |
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just a dude User ID: 995595 United States 06/10/2010 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time is fractal. In the beginning of our Universe, there was an impulse. But there wasn’t enough energy to get “time” started. Two impulses later, it started and flowed unperturbed. Then another construct perturbed the flow and “time” reacted. The reaction was commensurate to the function and structure of the perturbation. “Time” provided it’s own basic characteristics, “learned” new Truths and was thus changed, to adapt to the environment. The Universe being fractal in nature, “time” became fractal. Consider a tree. Let’s start at the trunk. The trunk represents the Source, Unity of Thought, the base. The Source is tapped directly to the initial constructs of creation in our Universe. As resin rising in a tree, Time flows from the Source and then splits into two branches, two new timelines. Timelines can also be cut, then a discontinuity appears, a skip/gap in time. If these aren’t repaired, then the “tree” suffers and it has to be mended. A human standing at the intersection of the two branches of Time must “decide” which branch to follow. But the flow, generated by the will of humankind, could easily draw the human to one branch or another. The collective will has a great “pull”. To stay at the intersection requires stopping Time. Then one may choose to go one way or another. But knowledge of the Truth means that said human already knows of the “Two Ways”. When we seek the Truth, when we see the Light, we’re automatically pulled towards that path. As we strive in that path it becomes ever more of our reality. Now, take the two branches and tangle them around each other. Now you have the possibility, thanks to proximity of the other branch, to hop from one branch to another. Then again, you could hang out somewhere in the gap between the two. Well this is your DNA. You see, the timelines are the DNA strands. If you “dwell” predominantly in one of your strands, you miss out on what’s in the other one. Then one could also “flip-flop” between stands/time. Our brains “flip-flop” as well. Our Solar System can “flip-flop”. Energy drawn from the Earth, expanded through the Sacrum, stoked by combustion due to respiration drives the heart pump. The energy is then accelerated and squeeze through the medula oblongata to activate the chiasma. One X activated and then the second X activates. As it is in our body, so it is in our DNA. To see life with one eye is to activate the chiasma as a Y, and as a consequence, we see life as a dominant male. Remember the saying, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man rules. To see the Truth from the female and the male perspective, triggers the X. This is the Way to activate both DNA strands. Once both strands are activated, the Crown chakra activates. What you do beyond there is up to you… You still have freewill, so use discernment and validation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 06/10/2010 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time is fractal. Quoting: just a dudeIn the beginning of our Universe, there was an impulse. But there wasn’t enough energy to get “time” started. Two impulses later, it started and flowed unperturbed. Then another construct perturbed the flow and “time” reacted. The reaction was commensurate to the function and structure of the perturbation. “Time” provided it’s own basic characteristics, “learned” new Truths and was thus changed, to adapt to the environment. The Universe being fractal in nature, “time” became fractal. Consider a tree. Let’s start at the trunk. The trunk represents the Source, Unity of Thought, the base. The Source is tapped directly to the initial constructs of creation in our Universe. As resin rising in a tree, Time flows from the Source and then splits into two branches, two new timelines. Timelines can also be cut, then a discontinuity appears, a skip/gap in time. If these aren’t repaired, then the “tree” suffers and it has to be mended. A human standing at the intersection of the two branches of Time must “decide” which branch to follow. But the flow, generated by the will of humankind, could easily draw the human to one branch or another. The collective will has a great “pull”. To stay at the intersection requires stopping Time. Then one may choose to go one way or another. But knowledge of the Truth means that said human already knows of the “Two Ways”. When we seek the Truth, when we see the Light, we’re automatically pulled towards that path. As we strive in that path it becomes ever more of our reality. Now, take the two branches and tangle them around each other. Now you have the possibility, thanks to proximity of the other branch, to hop from one branch to another. Then again, you could hang out somewhere in the gap between the two. Well this is your DNA. You see, the timelines are the DNA strands. If you “dwell” predominantly in one of your strands, you miss out on what’s in the other one. Then one could also “flip-flop” between stands/time. Our brains “flip-flop” as well. Our Solar System can “flip-flop”. Energy drawn from the Earth, expanded through the Sacrum, stoked by combustion due to respiration drives the heart pump. The energy is then accelerated and squeeze through the medula oblongata to activate the chiasma. One X activated and then the second X activates. As it is in our body, so it is in our DNA. To see life with one eye is to activate the chiasma as a Y, and as a consequence, we see life as a dominant male. Remember the saying, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man rules. To see the Truth from the female and the male perspective, triggers the X. This is the Way to activate both DNA strands. Once both strands are activated, the Crown chakra activates. What you do beyond there is up to you… You still have freewill, so use discernment and validation. LOL, yes, yes, yes! Time is fractal! I came to the same conclusion a couple years back. It is the only concept that fits Time. |
Full Circle User ID: 994357 Canada 06/10/2010 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But humans are not separate from all other things. Only part of the whole of all. So in truth, this is about the expansion of creation and the evolution of creation. (of which humans are only a small part). We should not be merely concerned with strictly human construct. Quoting: rkenThere is something much grander going on than species development. I say this because we are not our human counterpart. We are much more than that. Same as everything else. ++++++++ The human counterpart is vehicle for not only the interpretation of information along several spectrums but the expression of them as well. As multi dimensional beings, perhaps what we are doing here is fine tuning this part of our total body and expression to mesh with the rest of our self. Like focusing on the transmition of a car and adding a extra gear to give greater power transfer. +++++++ Yes I agree. It would seem that we, our being, allows for the expression of the All or one etc.on levels not allowed by other beings. Physical, emotional, mental and spiritual. The veil Of Isis allows for us the ability to experience something other than self. Nice post thanks What I meant by my original statement is that ALL of creation contributes to the Entirety. Rken....how can you say what other beings are experiencing? I guess for me, I still don't see the human contribution as any more important than other parts of creation. They are all connected to the EU in the same way we are. Including water, air, earth, etc. Not just the flora and fauna. ETA: It's the salinity of the oceans that carries the electrical currents through it. All things are connected to the EU. So experience is experience and relevant to it's totality. Last Edited by Full Circle on 06/10/2010 11:01 AM Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
just a dude User ID: 995595 United States 06/10/2010 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These things occur within you and you look around and your body hasn’t dramatically morphed, but your perception does, your thought process has. So if our Solar System/Galaxy/Universe functions similarly, then don’t expect dramatic changes. Our Solar System being in the Mind of the Universe, activation of X-X on a larger scale will produce energy flow from the Source through Sol, to effect changes to Our Solar System. This is the Light of Creation, the Light of Truth, that which brings harmony and balance. The timelines as DNA strands have bi-directional energetic flow patterns, the constructs of each strand are holograms within the DNA field. Energy flows in and out, the DNA seems structurally the same, but its been tweaked, and its function changes. So the structure of the Solar System will be tweaked and its function will change. This is a balancing activity. Wobbles be gone, orbs to spin True, then the System spins True. From beyond, looking back at Our Solar System, what a sight to behold, a magnificent Garden with beautiful flowers emitting the Ultimate Love. |