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Anonymous Coward User ID: 991247 United States 06/03/2010 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Riser pipe diameter = 24"OD - 21"ID Quoting: The flow speed will be assumed at max speed for a storm drain, 5 meters per second. It could be higher but we will remain at a known feasible speed for the sake of argument. There is more then enough pressure to push 5 meters per second. Cylinder Area of... Length of 5 meters = 196.85 inches 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 272,834.1 cubic inches The volume of the 5 meter long pipe is the flow per second since 5 meters will flow per second. RESULTSPer Second272,834 cubic Inches per Second 1,181 US Gallons per Second 28.12 Barrels per Second Per Hour4,251,600 US Gallons per Hour 101,232 Barrels per Hour Per 24 Hours102,038,400 US Gallons per Day 2,429,568 Barrels per Day EVEN IF THE FLOW WAS 1 METER per SECOND = 486,000 Bbl/day ºCRAPºI believe your math is incorrect... 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 272,834.1 cubic inches The area of a 21" pipe would be 10.5 X 10.5 X 3.14 = 346.185 346.185" X 196.85" = 68,146.51 cubic inches |

2+2=5fromtheHillsUser ID: 945238 United States 06/03/2010 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People, the OP is assuming maximum flow - which, using common sense, is probably accurate. Quoting: Excellent thread OP. Anonymous Coward 953706Hahahahhaaaa. Hahahhahhahahha. Hahhhahhahhajhhjajhajhhaa. Oh, god I need to pee. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 953706 United States 06/03/2010 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People, the OP is assuming maximum flow - which, using common sense, is probably accurate. Quoting: Excellent thread OP. Hahahahhaaaa. Hahahhahhahahha. Hahhhahhahhajhhjajhajhhaa. Oh, god I need to pee. 2+2=5fromtheHillsThe pipe is open now, dipshit. |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 991210 Portugal 06/03/2010 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am I wrong or this could be easily calculated using Bernoulli's equation? Quoting: P1 + ph1g + 1/2pv1^2 = P2 + ph2g + 1/2pv2^2 Quite frankly, you encounter your error when the square root of ph2g becomes quantified through simple physics. Hog farmerWhat? The equation is correct. It's a principle of conservation of energy. P(pressure) + phg + 1/2pv^2 is a constant |

Anonymous Coward (OP)User ID: 901059 United States 06/03/2010 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh btw, BP may use oil eating bacteria. [link to www.smartertechnology.com] The bacteria will oxidize the hydrocarbons and expel CO2. CO2 is another gas we DO NOT need more of. The massive release of CO2 in micro sized bubbles under the surface will feed Algae blooms. Bio Bacteria Eats Oil > CO2 CO2 feeds Algae Blooms > Deadly Toxins Deadly Toxins > Massive Global Ocean Death |

2+2=5fromtheHillsUser ID: 945238 United States 06/03/2010 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People, the OP is assuming maximum flow - which, using common sense, is probably accurate. Quoting: Excellent thread OP. Hahahahhaaaa. Hahahhahhahahha. Hahhhahhahhajhhjajhajhhaa. Oh, god I need to pee. The pipe is open now, dipshit. Anonymous Coward 953706Whew, and thank god, it is. Bathroom time would have been unacceptable if it weren't. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 953706 United States 06/03/2010 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |

Anonymous Coward (OP)User ID: 901059 United States 06/03/2010 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe your math is incorrect... Quoting: 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 272,834.1 cubic inches The area of a 21" pipe would be 10.5 X 10.5 X 3.14 = 346.185 346.185" X 196.85" = 68,146.51 cubic inches Anonymous Coward 991247EDIT: btw, we need volume, not area!Oh yeah, do it yourself here. [link to www.online-calculators.co.uk] Put in 21 inches diameter and 196.85 inches as height. Be sure to change the units to inches. The results are accurate. Your math is flawed~! |

BRIEF AND TO THE POINTUser ID: 381742 United States 06/03/2010 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so what the plan d'jour? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 989762Well, (punny) since they won't stop the oil geyser I guess we will have to find a way to get the saltwater out of our oilcean... Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |

2+2=5fromtheHillsUser ID: 945238 United States 06/03/2010 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pipe is open now, dipshit. Quoting: Whew, and thank god, it is. Bathroom time would have been unacceptable if it weren't. The flow is unimpeded. Correct the math where wrong, wonderbrains. Anonymous Coward 953706You are correct, my flow is unimpeded. And, thank you for caring. My math is correct, feel free to point out the errors. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 989592 United States 06/03/2010 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember that the guaranteed limiting pipe diameter is 7" ID. This is the well bore ID of the deepest segment of the well. Of course I don't know the length of this segment, but it is 7" ID. It ID goes up from there until it is ~22" ID at the surface. |

2+2=5fromtheHillsUser ID: 945238 United States 06/03/2010 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember that the guaranteed limiting pipe diameter is 7" ID. Quoting: This is the well bore ID of the deepest segment of the well. Of course I don't know the length of this segment, but it is 7" ID. It ID goes up from there until it is ~22" ID at the surface. Anonymous Coward 989592Hmmm. Yes, this thread needs more pipes. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |

Anonymous Coward (OP)User ID: 901059 United States 06/03/2010 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember that the guaranteed limiting pipe diameter is 7" ID. Quoting: This is the well bore ID of the deepest segment of the well. Of course I don't know the length of this segment, but it is 7" ID. It ID goes up from there until it is ~22" ID at the surface. Anonymous Coward 989592Then we divide the results by 3 for the accurate measurement with a 7" restriction. Thanks for pointing that out. 166,600 - 833,300 bbl/day with a 7" restriction. |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 991247 United States 06/03/2010 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe your math is incorrect... Quoting: 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 272,834.1 cubic inches The area of a 21" pipe would be 10.5 X 10.5 X 3.14 = 346.185 346.185" X 196.85" = 68,146.51 cubic inches EDIT: btw, we need volume, not area!Oh yeah, do it yourself here. [link to www.online-calculators.co.uk] Put in 21 inches diameter and 196.85 inches as height. Be sure to change the units to inches. The results are accurate. Your math is flawed~! ºCRAPºTHE RADIUS OF A 21" PIPE IS NOT 21"... IT IS 10.5. YOUR CALCULATION IS SKEWED!!! |

2+2=5fromtheHillsUser ID: 945238 United States 06/03/2010 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |

Anonymous Coward (OP)User ID: 901059 United States 06/03/2010 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe your math is incorrect... Quoting: 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 272,834.1 cubic inches The area of a 21" pipe would be 10.5 X 10.5 X 3.14 = 346.185 346.185" X 196.85" = 68,146.51 cubic inches Anonymous Coward 991247You are calculating for area and give the answer in cubic terms. Big no no! You are calculating the surface area which is inches squared. We need volume which is cubic inches. Sorry dude but you are the one who is wrong, ok! |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 957461 United States 06/03/2010 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |

Anonymous Coward (OP)User ID: 901059 United States 06/03/2010 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe your math is incorrect... Quoting: 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 272,834.1 cubic inches The area of a 21" pipe would be 10.5 X 10.5 X 3.14 = 346.185 346.185" X 196.85" = 68,146.51 cubic inches EDIT: btw, we need volume, not area!Oh yeah, do it yourself here. [link to www.online-calculators.co.uk] Put in 21 inches diameter and 196.85 inches as height. Be sure to change the units to inches. The results are accurate. Your math is flawed~! THE RADIUS OF A 21" PIPE IS NOT 21"... IT IS 10.5. YOUR CALCULATION IS SKEWED!!! Anonymous Coward 991247Oh damn, you are right. |

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Hog farmerUser ID: 991243 United States 06/03/2010 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am I wrong or this could be easily calculated using Bernoulli's equation? Quoting: P1 + ph1g + 1/2pv1^2 = P2 + ph2g + 1/2pv2^2 Quite frankly, you encounter your error when the square root of ph2g becomes quantified through simple physics. What? The equation is correct. It's a principle of conservation of energy. P(pressure) + phg + 1/2pv^2 is a constant Anonymous Coward 991210You ARE correct.I was joking, hence the "Bazinga" "The underlying truth, after all is said and done, is constant. The truth does not change, we change." Brandon Smith |

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Tazzz User ID: 849986 United States 06/03/2010 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do NOT mean to debunk, or downplay this thread in any way, however has anyone taken into consideration the Viscosity of Crude Oil vs that of water from the storm drain? In any case, its a shit load of oil comming out now. Great. just GREAT. |

2+2=5fromtheHillsUser ID: 945238 United States 06/03/2010 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do NOT mean to debunk, or downplay this thread in any way, however has anyone taken into consideration the Viscosity of Crude Oil vs that of water from the storm drain? Quoting: In any case, its a shit load of oil comming out now. Great. just GREAT. Tazzz 849986You can say that again, Taz. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 990925 United States 06/03/2010 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EDIT: DIAMETER WAS USED WHERE RADIUS WAS NEEDED. TITLE IS NOW ACCURATE.--------------------------------------------------------------------- Riser pipe diameter = 24"OD - 21"ID The flow speed will be assumed at max speed for a storm drain, 5 meters per second. It could be higher but we will remain at a known feasible speed for the sake of argument. There is more then enough pressure to push 5 meters per second. Cylinder Area of... Length of 5 meters = 196.85 inches 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 272,834.1 cubic inches The volume of the 5 meter long pipe is the flow per second since 5 meters will flow per second. RESULTSPer Second272,834 cubic Inches per Second 1,181 US Gallons per Second 28.12 Barrels per Second Per Hour4,251,600 US Gallons per Hour 101,232 Barrels per Hour Per 24 Hours102,038,400 US Gallons per Day 2,429,568 Barrels per Day EVEN IF THE FLOW WAS 1 METER per SECOND = 486,000 Bbl/day ºCRAPºYou forgot to deduct the volume the remaining drill pipe volume takes up. |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 989560 Canada 06/03/2010 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it possible that some of the valves in the BOP partially closed as well.. restricting the flow and skewing these numbers. We also don't know the state of the drill in there as it appeared to have folded over onto itself in the cutoff section of the riser. I don't think the calculations are quite so simple.. what about the possibility of the well breach hundreds of feet down. See, all those would reduce the flow rate and potentially cut these numbers in two again. |

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Anonymous Coward User ID: 681333 United States 06/03/2010 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |

Anonymous Coward (OP)User ID: 901059 United States 06/03/2010 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EDIT: The figures have been altered due to an oversight in calculation. I had used the diameter where radius was required. This means the previous figures are wrong. I recalculated based on radius now. The figures below are corrected._____________________________________________________________________________ Riser pipe diameter = 24"OD - 21"ID The flow speed will be assumed at max speed for a storm drain, 5 meters per second. It could be higher but we will remain at a known feasible speed for the sake of argument. There is more then enough pressure to push 5 meters per second. Cylinder Area of... Length of 5 meters = 196.85 inches 21" Diameter x 196.85" Height = 67,913 cubic inches The volume of the 5 meter long pipe is the flow per second since 5 meters will flow per second. RESULTSPer Second7 Barrels per Second Per Hour25,196 Barrels per Hour Per 24 Hours604,719 Barrels per Day EVEN IF THE FLOW WAS 1 METER per SECOND = 121,000 Bbl/day ºCRAPº |

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