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President Eisenhower knew!!!!!!!!!

 
Anonymous Coward
05/17/2005 02:54 PM
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Social Insecurity


Claim: President Eisenhower once noted that "a few Texas oil millionaires" wanted to "abolish social security."

Status: True.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2005]

President Dwight Eisenhower, Republican, uttered these words on November 8, 1954:

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

In addition to being a war hero, a decent fellow, a moderate Republican before they began to go extinct, President Eisenhower apparently was also quite the prophet. Little George W. Bush was about 9 years old at the time...

Origins: One favorite tactic in political debate is to put words in the mouth of a respected elder statesmen to make it appear he presciently anticipated some modern issue or political personality (and, naturally, took a stand that supported the viewpoint of whoever put those words in his mouth). Therefore, given the recent debate over President George W. Bush´s efforts to alter the Social Security system, one would expect a fifty-year-old quote from a former President (and fellow Republican) labeling as "stupid" certain "Texas oil millionaires" who want "to abolish social security" to be a similar fabrication.

Save for a few minor details, however, the quote from President Dwight D. Eisenhower cited at the head of this page is in fact an accurate one. It wasn´t something he uttered (it was instead something he wrote), and the version reproduced above omits Ike´s reference to a specific Texas oil tycoon (H.L. Hunt), but it otherwise is taken verbatim from a letter President Eisenhower penned to his brother, Edgar Newton Eisenhower, on 8 November 1954:
Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this--in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything--even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.
Politically, Ike was a classic small-government Republican. He was of the opinion that the federal government had grown too large at the expense of local and state authority since the advent of FDR´s New Deal in the 1930´s, a situation which had been exacerbated by the national emergency that was World War II. Since the Depression and the war were over by the time he took office in 1953, President Eisenhower felt it was time to return to the "middle way" — pruning federal subsidies of industries such as agriculture and power companies, which he believed no longer needed government assistance. At the same time, he wanted to sustain and even increase funding for programs he thought had good track records, and Social Security was paramount among these.

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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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What about this guy?

Abraham Lincoln:

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Can we vote back in some of the OLD presidents??? Damn I wish. Vote in those who TRUELY have the citizens and this country´s best interest FIRST for a change!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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The good general also warned about the dangers of the military-industrial complex.

I like Ike.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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So where were the people back in THOSE day´s doing something to change what these men forsaw?
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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"Can we vote back in some of the OLD presidents??? Damn I wish. Vote in those who TRUELY have the citizens and this country´s best interest FIRST for a change!"

Many of the ´old´ presidents did things in office that would freak people out nowdays.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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"So where were the people back in THOSE day´s doing something to change what these men forsaw?"

What those men had to write/say in private was not made public. Except for the internet, they would still be hidden. It is now up to all of us to oppose the plans of TPTB.
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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A great industrial nation is controlled by it´s system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.

--President Woodrow Wilson
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Keenedy made a speech to the efffect that he needed to give some information to the citizens before he left office. About 2 weeks later, he was dead.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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too bad there are no authentic republicans anymore...just a gaggle of batty neocons
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Let´s not forget his famous ´Beware the military-industrial complex´ speech. By the same token, Eisenhower impresses me from what little I know of him as a very complacent leader, even going back to his military career. He may not even have given a damn for most of what he said in public.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Obvious, what do you think that information was?
He was turning over the applec
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Kennedy signed an executive order abolishing the Federal Reserve.That more than any reason was undoubtedly why they(Bankers)had him killed.Ike was a decent man.One of the last to tell the truth.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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the really big problem is that we didn´t vote Bushwacky, the Texas Turd either time.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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those who forget history are condemned to repeat it
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"Their number is negligible and they are stupid." "

Well, he was half right!





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