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The Waffen SS and Wehrmacht Greatest Alignment of Troops Ever

 
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Even Patton himself says something to the effect they were a waste of some of the best military units ever in history since the Roman legions. Not to mention the German commanders were the greatest of all time so brilliant and tactically sound it is amazing the Germans do not get enough credit for their fighting power they took on practically everyone and almost won while have to handle Italy's problems in North Africa.
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biggest mistake was invading Russia


but today they could pull the plug on Europe by dumping the Euro and going back to the Deutschmarke.

Really they are edging towards Russia now.

Geramn tech + Russian resources is good.
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i completely agree.

sadly your not aloowed to say those things. if nazi germany had taken a softer approach by not going on the war path and killing shit loads of people i think they would have become one of if not the superpower. but what nations history isnt written in blood.

they were top notch, a bit too good. alot like america you could say?
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My curse in life was not being born a German. Germans are greatest people on earth and sadly I can not be part of that.
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biggest mistake was invading Russia


but today they could pull the plug on Europe by dumping the Euro and going back to the Deutschmarke.

Really they are edging towards Russia now.

Geramn tech + Russian resources is good.
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same with naplolean that russian winter can stop armys in there tracks
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I'm almost afraid to post in this thread, people will jump down your throat if you have anything positive to say about that regime.

They did run an orderly house though.

And for once people realized that there was a problem with an outside force controlling their banking and government, kicked them in the ass and did what was right for their own people.

I can appreciate that.
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Even Patton himself says something to the effect they were a waste of some of the best military units ever in history since the Roman legions. Not to mention the German commanders were the greatest of all time so brilliant and tactically sound it is amazing the Germans do not get enough credit for their fighting power they took on practically everyone and almost won while have to handle Italy's problems in North Africa.
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Yes there is much truth in this. They were superb in every way. SOLDIERS!. Look at the suffering in Stalingrad. Most of them just kids.
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Those not "in the know" should read Shirer's book "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich"

I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame
' "Those who give up freedom in the name of security deserve neither".
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I never thought I could cry watching a movie until I saw Downfall. It brought me to tears seeing how miserable Hitler was at the end,
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good piece on history channel. canadians fighting in italy in wwii. unblooded canadians go against ss paratroopers in ortona. my grandfather was there. bloody house to house, floor to floor fighting. canadians created "mouseholing" where they blew holes into the next building and went block by block like that. started about december19 1943. went right through christmas. by december28, ortona was canadian occupied. these were farm boys and they were as tough as nails.

they went through the lorry valley, the hitler line and the gothic line. 4 for 4 against top german troops. the germans were ordered to fight to the death. and thats what most of them did. the best the germans had were no match for them.
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my grandfather was the chief architect of Berlin during WW2.

Hitler inducted him as a Nazi and he refused. He got shipped to re-education...then the Russians put hin in a POW camp

the Russians released him and he went on to live a happy life.

all this with a bullet lodged in his skull (inoperable) from WW1.

My mother remembers the bombs falling when she was in the bunker.

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Wow what a bunch of Nazi bullshit.The greatest army was the USA.Seems like we won bitches.The Russians just threw bodies at the front.We had the will to win.
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If you count using human tallow in soap and human leather in lampshades, a few of that crazy corporatist state's bizarre achievements, as something you wish to be a part of, then sure, association with a psychotic regime would seem highly desirable.

My curse in life was not being born a German. Germans are greatest people on earth and sadly I can not be part of that.
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And those uniforms!
Especially those long, black leather coats.
ohyeah
Those uniforms were hot.
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they went through the lorry valley, the hitler line and the gothic line. 4 for 4 against top german troops. the germans were ordered to fight to the death. and thats what most of them did. the best the germans had were no match for them.
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What a bunch of BS. Canadians did nothing but slow down the Allies. Canadians did nothing but sit around eating breakfast all day.
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Wow what a bunch of Nazi bullshit.The greatest army was the USA.Seems like we won bitches.The Russians just threw bodies at the front.We had the will to win.
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best actual divisions were canadian and ss paratrooper. americans often ran when they ran into ss paratroopers. canadians methodically mowed them down.
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Wow what a bunch of Nazi bullshit.The greatest army was the USA.Seems like we won bitches.The Russians just threw bodies at the front.We had the will to win.
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ah i hate to inform you but a lot of outher countrys fought germany along side us americans it was a combided effort
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they went through the lorry valley, the hitler line and the gothic line. 4 for 4 against top german troops. the germans were ordered to fight to the death. and thats what most of them did. the best the germans had were no match for them.

What a bunch of BS. Canadians did nothing but slow down the Allies. Canadians did nothing but sit around eating breakfast all day.
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you believed all the propaganda didn't you. well it wasn't true.
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Bollix. The Soviets were the greatest warriors for that era. Fearless till the end to the extent they had the Hun on the run shitting his pants just in time for the boys from Hollywood to grab the glory.

Even Patton himself says something to the effect they were a waste of some of the best military units ever in history since the Roman legions. Not to mention the German commanders were the greatest of all time so brilliant and tactically sound it is amazing the Germans do not get enough credit for their fighting power they took on practically everyone and almost won while have to handle Italy's problems in North Africa.


Yes there is much truth in this. They were superb in every way. SOLDIERS!. Look at the suffering in Stalingrad. Most of them just kids.
 Quoting: The Analog Guy
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Prefer the Red Army any day. Nothing more satisfying than making a gulf oil pooping banker loving nazi shit his pants at the sight of communists.

And those uniforms!
Especially those long, black leather coats.
ohyeah
Those uniforms were hot.
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they went through the lorry valley, the hitler line and the gothic line. 4 for 4 against top german troops. the germans were ordered to fight to the death. and thats what most of them did. the best the germans had were no match for them.

What a bunch of BS. Canadians did nothing but slow down the Allies. Canadians did nothing but sit around eating breakfast all day.
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read about the battle of ortona. the most brutal fighting of ww11 outside of stalingrad. hitler ordered the ss paratroopers to defend ortona to the death. within 2 weeks it was canadian occupied.

and ortona was a rampart. it was a strong defensive position!
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Little Stalingrad.

they went through the lorry valley, the hitler line and the gothic line. 4 for 4 against top german troops. the germans were ordered to fight to the death. and thats what most of them did. the best the germans had were no match for them.

What a bunch of BS. Canadians did nothing but slow down the Allies. Canadians did nothing but sit around eating breakfast all day.

read about the battle of ortona. the most brutal fighting of ww11 outside of stalingrad. hitler ordered the ss paratroopers to defend ortona to the death. within 2 weeks it was canadian occupied.

and ortona was a rampart. it was a strong defensive position!
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93,000 canadians fought in italy. 6,000 were killed and 25,000 injured. after that, the canadians were considered by foe or friend to be a formidable fighting force.
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Wow what a bunch of Nazi bullshit.The greatest army was the USA.Seems like we won bitches.The Russians just threw bodies at the front.We had the will to win.
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Sad to say you are Very Mistaken...

The greatest battles of WWII were the Eastern Front battles. Greatest victories won by Americans won by the Navy and Marines in the Pacific.

The German soldier was the finest ever.
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93,000 canadians fought in italy. 6,000 were killed and 25,000 injured. after that, the canadians were considered by foe or friend to be a formidable fighting force.
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Agreed. The allies could not have defeated Germany without Canada.
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Little Stalingrad.





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yes. thats what ortona has come to be known as. it is hard to describe the room to room battles that happened here. the canadians wouldn't go on the street because that was instant death so they blew holes in walls between houses and took the town literally one house, one room at a time. it was close combat. our boys said very few of the ss paratroopers gave up.
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my dad can beat up your dad
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my dad can beat up your dad
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ya, but my grandfather that fought at ortona would kick the shit out your grandfather!
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Berlin was a Polish city or at least western Slavic in origin.

Berlin was actually founded by Western Slavic fishing tribes. They built a reasonable size city until Eastward expanding Germans launched a series of offensives against them. Slavic tribes were able to retake the city, but were more peaceful fishermen and tradesmen and were no match for the professional German armies that lay siege to Berlin.

The city Berlin has a Slavic not a German name. Think about Berlin how it is similar to the city of Lublin. It does not have a ‘burg’ or other Germanic endings. I think it comes from an old Slavic word meaning bog or marsh. The slavic languages have words that sound like ‘berl’ or ’brlog’. Meaning fishing village or bog or swamp/meadow. The etymology of Brandenburg comes from Slavic ‘brenna’ also meaning swamp. It is 100% Slavic not German, ironically.


Heh ... a bunch of Polaks with funny accents.

Let's be serious. Germans make decent mechanics, janitors and prison guards. Warriors, however, they are not. A second tier European power, hardly more than a comic relief on the world stage.

Comparing them to the Romans ... good grief.

They are good people, tho. Likable loosers.
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Even Patton himself says something to the effect they were a waste of some of the best military units ever in history since the Roman legions. Not to mention the German commanders were the greatest of all time so brilliant and tactically sound it is amazing the Germans do not get enough credit for their fighting power they took on practically everyone and almost won while have to handle Italy's problems in North Africa.
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