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Ashayana and Drunvalo's teachings

 
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WTH?!? ...is this really an excerpt from Haye's book Voyagers??? Could someone who read the book please answer me?

If yes, then i find it incredible...they are using THE SAME concepts/words...it's basically the same story but with different twist. Only one of them can be true...I'd definitely go with James.


He said, she said.

You know how many people are out there teaching all kinds of Merkaba and DNA activation via books and websites? We all have a God given right to learn as we see fit. We don't see Ashayana threatening a lawsuit because someone's teaching is offensive. She simply relates a statement given to her from off planet Elders, written in print some 8 yrs ago and in that, we have war 8 yrs later.

If only everyone could practice the Law of One . . . we would not even be having this discussion.

peace



Sure!
Do what you want.
Spin your chakras backwards intentionally while worshiping the Wizard of Oz.

If you write a book about it, I can openly say I didn't learn that way, I feel it isn't the correct way.

Maybe she didn't simply communicate or relate any statement by any imagined or real Elder at all, but it was her own ego that drove her.

Now for more Anna Hayes.

I post this because it's so out there, anyone still questioning their own self about her material might take a second and consider it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Voyagers - Volume II: The Secrets of Amenti (2nd Edition)
by Ashayana Deane (2002)

pg. 553-555

UIR, "WINGMAKERS," THE LABYRINTH WEAPON AND 2011

A collective of renegade Necromiton-Andromie/Jehovian Annunaki

hybrid Nephilim races, now members of the UIR, have been initiating

progressive covert contact with a group of Humans known as the "Labyrinth

Group." The Labyrinth Group is a covert collective of humans directly involved

with the 1972-1973 archeological discoveries known as the "Ancient Arrow

Wingmakers Site" in New Mexico. Using their usual talents of truth-twisting,

dispensation of partial knowledge and embellished disinformation, this

Nephilim group, which is code named the "Corteum," have deceived the

Labyrinth Group into assisting them to create a crystalline-scalar-mechanics

based weapons technology. In order for the UIR to take advantage of this final

2011 invasion opportunity, they must re-activate the Seven Jehovian Seal sites

on Earth in order to use the "Seven Trumpets" technologies of D-7 Phantom

Arcturus to uncap the Falcon-Phoenix Wormholes. The Seven Jehovian Seal

sites will have been re-calibrated to a Level 9 12-Code Pulse (footnote 7: "9th

dimension sealed to the 12th sub-frequency band.") by 2011. The technology

the Corteum has inspired the Labyrinth Group to create is intended to assist

UIR in re-activating the seven Jehovian Seals on a Phantom Matrix

electromagnetic pulse, to allow for fulfillment of the UIR's OWO final victory.
The Corteum technology utilizes inter-time manipulations intended to

create "minute time rips" into the Phantom Matrix in regions connecting to the

Seven Jehovian Seal sites. Through these "minute time rips," which represent

a type of wormhole bridge, the UIR intends to build up sufficient sub-space

photo-sonic "charge" within the Axiatonal Line system of Parallel Earth. The

photo-sonic charge is intended to be progressively stored and amplified in the

Parallel Earth Planetary Shields until 2008, at which time the charge is intended

to be split into two "Phantom Electrostatic ionic pulses." One pulse is to be sent

back in time to the original 10,500 BC creation of the Falcon-Phoenix

Wormholes, the other into "future time" in the Phantom Earth time cycle. The

"past" pulse will connect the 10,500 BC Atlantian period of Phantom Earth, in

which the Luciferian Rebellion takeover attempt succeeded, to our present time

continuum line. The "future" pulse will connect the "future" of Phantom Earth,

which evolved from the successful Phantom Earth Luciferian Conquest "past,"

to our present time continuum. Through the mechanics of the Labyrinth

Group's Corteum technology, which the group has code-named the "Blank

Slate Technology" or "BST" (Founders think of it as "the BeaST"), the UIR

intends to accumulate photo-sonic charge in the Phantom Earth future location

and the 10,500 BC Luciferian Conquest time period of Phantom Earth Atlantis.

When the 2011 "window of opportunity" opens, the UIR intends to use the

contemporary "BeaST" to direct the amplified photo-sonic charge

simultaneously into the Seven Jehovian Seal sites of Earth's Planetary Shields,

in the contemporary time, past Atlantian and future Phanton Earth periods.
Release of the "BeaST Pulse" is intended to accomplish several

invasion objectives, the first of which is to re-activate the Seven Jehovian Seal

sites in each time period. The second objective of the BeaST Pulse is to tear

Earth's Shields apart via bonding Earth's grids to the compromised grids of

Parallel Earth, which are presently linked to Phantom Earth. Completion of the

second objective, which would culminate in the North American continent begin

[sic] vertically ripped into two sub-continents along the Mississippi River

vertical, is intended to set the stage for fulfillment of objective three. Objective

three constitutes the intentional shattering of the dimension 8 through 12

portions of Earth's Planetary Shields and reversal of the natural "Fire Letter

Sequences" (footnote 8: "scalar-wave sequences.") in the D-1 through D-7

portions of Earth's Planetary Shields. This despicable plan would seemingly

serve to "erase history," creating a "Blank Slate" of Earth's history within which

to insert the history of Phantom Earth (thus the "BS-T" code name). Once the

BeaST Pulse was used to link past and future Earth to Phantom Earth, the

"Seven Trumpets" sub-space sonic pulse technologies of Phantom Arcturus

would then be used to un-Cap, then merge, the Falcon-Phoenix Wormholes in

present time. Portions of Earth's Planetary Shields under Trion Zone

suspension would be torn away and drawn into merger with Phantom Earth.

Corresponding portions of our present time line would be drawn into merger

with a corresponding present point in the Phantom Earth time line, and these

portions of our present time line would be "spliced" into a position between the

10,500 BC Atlantis and future Atlantis in Phantom Earth's time line.
It would be as if our true history was "erased" and a portion of our

present literally inserted into the Phantom Earth time line. Portions of Earth's

Planetary Shields under Meajhe Zone protection would be destabilized under a

D-6 Planetary Hallah Phase Merkaba Vehicle, and what remained of Earth would

be heading for rapid pole shift in 2012. The Labyrinth Group of the Ancient

Arrow Wingmakers project have no idea that they are being deceived into

creating the very technology that could lead to the destruction of Human

civilization in 2011. (Wake up guys - you've been taken for a ride!) The people

involved with the Labyrinth Group and associated organizations have been

convinced by the Nephilim "Corteum," (they don't even know they are Nephilim)

that only by developing the Corteum's "BeaST" can Earth be protected from ET

invasion. The Labyrinth Group was told that a "big, bad invader race" (footnote

9: AKA the UIR's rebel Omicron-Drakonian adversaries.) is planning to invade

Earth in 2011 and that the Corteum "BST weapon" is the only way to prevent

this invasion. The UIR Corteum need the Labyrinth Group to create this

technology for them, as the Corteum cannot access the earthly scientific

facilities, resources or geographical positions needed to assemble the tactile

components of the BeaST weapon. It is the Corteum themselves, and their

recent allies of the UIR, that are intending to invade in 2011; their rebel

Omicron-Drakonian adversaries are intending a counter-invasion in hope of

preventing UIR/Corteum victory.
The "Wingmakers Ancient Arrow" archeological site does not belong

to the Labyrinth Group, or to the Corteum. It belongs to a group of Emerald

Covenant Angelic Human Races from the Interdimensional Association of Free

Worlds in the 6520 AD time period and to the Elohei-Elohim Founders, who long

ago buried "time capsule treasures" in this region specifically for discovery in

this time. (footnote 10: The labyrinth Group refers to these races, whose

identity is actually unknown to them, as the "Wingmakers" or "Central Race.")

The Elohei-Elohim have approached the Labyrinth Group with invitation to the

Emerald Covenant, but the Labyrinth Group refused when the Elohei-Elohim

explained the non-violent solution to the pending UIR invasion. The Labyrinth

Group also knows that the "Central Race" Elohei and Angelic Humans will not

support their efforts of creating the BeaST weapon, but the Corteum have

convinced the Labyrinth Group that the invasion cannot be prevented using

peaceful methods. The Corteum and UIR are very interested in the Ancient

Arrow site, as hidden within this area is the very tool by which Emerald

Covenant nations can prevent the 2011 UIR/Corteum Invasion.
An ancient device called a "Signet Shield" is buried in the area of the

Wingmakers Ancient Arrow site, under GA Eieyani sonic-force field protection.

The Signet ("Star Gate") Shield disc is one of a set of 12 Signet Shields given to

the Human Cloister Race Guardians of Earth over 200,000 years ago, by the

Maharajhi of Sirius B, on behalf of the Elohei-Elohim Emerald Covenant

Founders. The 12 Shields are manual activation/control devices for Earth's 12

Star Gates, which can be put into use by combining them with their 12

corresponding Emerald Covenant CDT-Plate disc activators. (footnote 11:

CDT-Plates are all under GA protection as of 1999.) The Wingmakers site in New

Mexico has been the storage place for Signet Shield-6, since the device was

removed from Cue Site-6 in India in 5,900 BC, when the Rama races endured

direct aerial assault from the Marduke-Dramin-Annunaki and Centaur group

during the Centuarian [sic] Invasion period. Signet Shield-6, and its

corresponding SG/Cue-Site-6, is the Emerald Covenant "Trump Card" in this

Final Conflict drama. Signet Shield-6, SG/Cue Site-6 and the D-12 Halls of

Amoera Passage, in conjunction with three other Signet Shields/SGs/Cue Sites

and Masters Planetary Templar Mechanics, will be used in 2011 to protect

Earth and the Bridge Zone Project from UIR invasion during the Meajhe Zone

weak period. GA anticipates a successful passage through the potential UIR

invasion of 2011.

If we make it this far in Plan A and "fix the problems," the forces of peace, love

and genuine Christos enlightenment are likely to achieve final 2012 victory on

Earth and in this Time Matrix.

The Wingmakers "Music discs," CD translations of which are

presently promoted via mainstream distribution networks, were not originally

part of the GA/Emerald Covenant Founders "time capsule." These musical

subliminal-command encryption programs were provided by the Corteum and

added to the Ancient Arrow site "finds," as were certain pieces of Corteum

artwork containing bio-stimulus mathematical codes, and a set of history

recorder discs that have yet to be unearthed containing falsified

Nephilim/Human history.
The real Wingmakers history and musical recorder-discs, smaller

versions of the CDT-Plates, were placed in 5,900 BC, and are still in various

protected regions of the GA Wingmakers site. Discovery of these true Human

Race history Records, along with other such "GA Time Capsules" placed

around the globe, will be permitted by the Founders between 2013-2017, as part

of GA identity validation just prior to Emerald Covenant nation mass contact.

The Corteum music and art selections are "Trojan Horse" technologies

intended to affect the function of the DNA Template, creating the emotional

experience of "calm, bliss and spontaneous cognition" via subtle

biochemical/neurotransmitter/brainwave direction, while simultaneously

blocking natural Pineal Gland and DNA Template 12-Code activation. These

technologies can, however, be enjoyed without detrimental effect, if the

Temporary Personal D-12 Maharic Seal Technique (see page 499) is used prior

to listening or viewing. The D-12 sub-harmonics of the natural Maharic Seal will

block detrimental portions of the subliminal sound/light programs from

activating in the DNA Template. The Wingmakers Art Work is a combination of

Angelic Human visual/bio-stimulus images, with select pieces of Corteum

control-program images mixed in among the Angelic Human artwork. One can

detect the subtle difference in frequency between "healthful" Angelic Human

images and "repressive" Nephilim/Corteum Intruder ET images by using the

Maharic Seal Technique, then sensing the energy signature behind the image.

A deep, low, rumbling "ULF background cyclic vibration pulse" can be easily

sensed in the Corteum images. Angelic Human images will not have this ULF

"Phantom under-pulse," but rather, each image will carry a set of three subtle

UHF "inner sound tones" that are "frequency keyed" to 12th-sub-frequency

band of D-6 and the 6th-DNA Strand Template. Angelic Human Wingmaker

images were designed to frequency-trigger progressive activation of Human

and Indigo DNA Strand Templates 4-5-6, to accelerate Pineal Gland and DNA

Template 12-Code activation.

~~~~~~
*David Ick'e

Hey, by the way
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Also, this just in, Scientology is still a mind control cult.
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Can't it be that the both of them are just savants in some way.. possibly Autists who have convinced themselves that they aren't Bat-shit insane? I suppose you can say that about a lot of GLPer's though. I have to say if anything it's entertaining. A Star wars type script that would never in a million years make it to Hollywood because of how incredibly absurd and nerdy it all is. Occam's Razor folks.. Remember that one? dead3

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In response to one who thinks I am just tooting a horn about Merkaba:

I will reiterate again that I did follow Drunvalo for many years and did the Merkaba exercise which I might add was awfully complex and such so that I have forgotten it. But during the time I did it, I felt nothing. When I meditated by myself without the exercise I did fine. Both myself and my spouse opted out of Drunvalo's studies.

When I studied Ashayana's everything clicked like locks on a safe. The exercise is simple, you can do it in the shower standing up. Within minutes I felt rejuvenated and clear headed. Why? Because the Maharic Seal acts like an armor against the Astral Tagging ( mind control ) and strengthens the DNA.

You have to understand that I do not follow the gurus of this world. I watch and evaluate and see where it takes me. I've had many years to practice this but Voyagers material is like none other. There are no comparisons. It brings forth answers to all the questions and then comprehensively details all the codes, symbols, planetary pre-ancient history, all the ET races and bottom line, why we have been battling evil for so long on this planet. Why we are here.

I am not about to dicker with people's belief systems. Either you fall into alignment with something this extraordinary or you follow the dictates of people who channel. Ashayana does not channel, there are other means of getting info through data streaming which she was taught since childhood.

BTW, in Flower of Life books I recall Drunvalo stating he was a walk in. Saw a little man who identified himself as Thoth and then communed with two angels. That is the extent of where he gets his interdimensional info. Thoth is well known in ET circles as one of the Fallen who defected from Source. That is why there is an issue with Ashayana dispelling Drunvalo's info regarding Merkaba.She had written that 10 yrs ago in her books as received from the Guardian Alliance. THEY are the divine intervention on this planet and have repeatedly saved us from extinction too many times to count. Yet, the agenda that faces us from the Fallen Angelics is a powerfully frightening series of events; thus the reason for the spiritual warfare to control the final conflict of 2012-2017. Drunvalo must know of this via the shamans and spiritual Elders on the planet or at least a piece of it?

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their biggest difference is on the direction of the merkaba. If you meditate to Drunvalo's way, then Ashayana says you'll turn into cosmic dust and if you do it vice-versa, then Drunvalo says you'll implode.

I've done it both ways and I'm still here...



No "exercise" is going to bring you to enlightenment or god and this is the problem i have with both these two. An asshole can do this meditation for 20 years and do it "properly" and still be an ASSHOLE. I've met people who have done these workshops with both camps and into this shit for YEARS and they are still the most pathetic, addicted, assholes. YOU DO NOT ACHIEVE ENLIGHTENMENT AND "ASSENSION" THROUGH EXTERNAL ACTIVITIES. You do it from within.

Sorry, the "merkaba" teaching haven't been around for plenty of people who became enlightened. And all this "ascension" bullshit is just another way to get the new agers to avoid the HERE AND NOW on EARTH (a great place without all the control freaks).

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AMEN to that!
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All of you are fools.

Blah blah blah Drunvalo is the light, Anna is the devil, or Drunvalo is a snake, Anna is a saint!

Who gives a shit!'


Your answer to enlightenment/ascension is NOT in a guru you fakers. Yes, I call you fakers. Those of you who think Ascension is some floaty unicorn process, or enlightenment is purely in the heart.

ALL IS CONNECTED. ALL HAS A REASON FOR EXISTING.

Even the "bad guys."

I will go out and say that I've read Ash's stuff, and it's sound in many was. But it's biased information too! LEARN TO DISCERN.

And furthermore, LEARN TO LEARN. What are you guys, babies? Jesus Christ stop badmouthing other people and complaining and take some fucking responsibility for yourselves! Coming and listening to you guys bad mouth others because of your fear and lack of security in your own set of beliefs is the most immature thing ever. Yes I am cussing, because I feel maybe this is the only way to get through some of you- it seems this is common on GLP.

And some of the comments are just LOW blows. You people all gang up on one person. You are no different than vultures. Or the people you claim to be above. You are like puppets, sheep being guided just like you claim "Anna's" students are. Again. I've met some of them, as I have drunvalos, and many other programs. And they are all great! Yea there are lots of dumb-asses, but that's true everywhere you go.

WAKE UP, THINK for yourselves, and learn from ALL. Begin to question but also begin to understand. Mechanics and head chakra knowledge isn't going to turn you evil! It might cause imbalance, which is why you need heart chakra, love, and meditation of the void and nothingness as Balance.

Some of you don't understand the complexity and profoundness of the teachings, and judge it therefore- claiming it couldn't possibly be real. That those people are egotistical, and too head-minded. UM, what does that say of you? Is enlightenment and knowledge defined by YOU? No. You don't know anymore than anyone else.

Do you realize how judge-mental some of you are being of Anna? And Drunvalo? And everyone else? Kerry for example. Jesus Christ......THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, with emotions, whether you believe it or not. Those of you who believe these are evil andoirds trying to deceive you are more schizo than even they are! Some of these people, are trying their best, believe it or not, to HELP YOU and everyone else.

It's not easy being the re-layer of that kind of information, it would drive me insane too! What if it's all true? It's still from a HUMAN medium, and as such there is OPINION and BIAS. So THINK FOR YOURSELF, and LEARN the value in Keylontics, and discard what doesn't help you! Same goes for EVERYTHING.

TO the person that talked about Anna dumping some guy and running off with another. MAN how enlightened are you? Judging another person for doing something that a human being does! And everyone around the time knew that Anna was devastated, she was crying for hours on end because the GA told her the other man was a better match, and indeed became a part of the knowledge and dispensation of their "truth."

Anyone who judges another person for PERSONAL choices and claims they aren't "enlightened" for it needs to look in the mirror. You are no better than the people who read those crap tabloids and act like you know the celebrities bein talked of, and have a right to judge them. You are NO better my friend.

These are great people. WAKE UP. This is what they want, for us to be divided. WE ALL HAVE A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

IT IS UP TO US, as HUMANS WHO WANT TO EVOLVE. To take the best of all the teachings that are good for us, knowledge, techniques, love, meditation, and work on OURSELVES. OUR OWN PATHS. But work TOGETHER not against each-other.

Some of you are like little nannies, afraid of their own shadow and the shadows of others. "omg ash is evil omg drunvalo is evil what am I going to do I need to follow someone and grovel at their feet to be worth anything, well I'm scared that information might not be right so I'm just going to judge them all and call them all demons"

And BELIAL? REALLY?

What will you guys come up with next?

Ascension, Enlightenment- that's on YOU to achieve. These people are merely giving data, knowledge, information for you to take or NOT take on your way there. Leave it at that.

You are the captain and commander of your own soul. So take some damn responsibility!
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All of you are fools.

Blah blah blah Drunvalo is the light, Anna is the devil, or Drunvalo is a snake, Anna is a saint!

Who gives a shit!'


Your answer to enlightenment/ascension is NOT in a guru you fakers. Yes, I call you fakers. Those of you who think Ascension is some floaty unicorn process, or enlightenment is purely in the heart.

ALL IS CONNECTED. ALL HAS A REASON FOR EXISTING.

Even the "bad guys."

I will go out and say that I've read Ash's stuff, and it's sound in many was. But it's biased information too! LEARN TO DISCERN.

And furthermore, LEARN TO LEARN. What are you guys, babies? Jesus Christ stop badmouthing other people and complaining and take some fucking responsibility for yourselves! Coming and listening to you guys bad mouth others because of your fear and lack of security in your own set of beliefs is the most immature thing ever. Yes I am cussing, because I feel maybe this is the only way to get through some of you- it seems this is common on GLP.

And some of the comments are just LOW blows. You people all gang up on one person. You are no different than vultures. Or the people you claim to be above. You are like puppets, sheep being guided just like you claim "Anna's" students are. Again. I've met some of them, as I have drunvalos, and many other programs. And they are all great! Yea there are lots of dumb-asses, but that's true everywhere you go.

WAKE UP, THINK for yourselves, and learn from ALL. Begin to question but also begin to understand. Mechanics and head chakra knowledge isn't going to turn you evil! It might cause imbalance, which is why you need heart chakra, love, and meditation of the void and nothingness as Balance.

Some of you don't understand the complexity and profoundness of the teachings, and judge it therefore- claiming it couldn't possibly be real. That those people are egotistical, and too head-minded. UM, what does that say of you? Is enlightenment and knowledge defined by YOU? No. You don't know anymore than anyone else.

Do you realize how judge-mental some of you are being of Anna? And Drunvalo? And everyone else? Kerry for example. Jesus Christ......THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, with emotions, whether you believe it or not. Those of you who believe these are evil andoirds trying to deceive you are more schizo than even they are! Some of these people, are trying their best, believe it or not, to HELP YOU and everyone else.

It's not easy being the re-layer of that kind of information, it would drive me insane too! What if it's all true? It's still from a HUMAN medium, and as such there is OPINION and BIAS. So THINK FOR YOURSELF, and LEARN the value in Keylontics, and discard what doesn't help you! Same goes for EVERYTHING.

TO the person that talked about Anna dumping some guy and running off with another. MAN how enlightened are you? Judging another person for doing something that a human being does! And everyone around the time knew that Anna was devastated, she was crying for hours on end because the GA told her the other man was a better match, and indeed became a part of the knowledge and dispensation of their "truth."

Anyone who judges another person for PERSONAL choices and claims they aren't "enlightened" for it needs to look in the mirror. You are no better than the people who read those crap tabloids and act like you know the celebrities bein talked of, and have a right to judge them. You are NO better my friend.

These are great people. WAKE UP. This is what they want, for us to be divided. WE ALL HAVE A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

IT IS UP TO US, as HUMANS WHO WANT TO EVOLVE. To take the best of all the teachings that are good for us, knowledge, techniques, love, meditation, and work on OURSELVES. OUR OWN PATHS. But work TOGETHER not against each-other.

Some of you are like little nannies, afraid of their own shadow and the shadows of others. "omg ash is evil omg drunvalo is evil what am I going to do I need to follow someone and grovel at their feet to be worth anything, well I'm scared that information might not be right so I'm just going to judge them all and call them all demons"

And BELIAL? REALLY?

What will you guys come up with next?

Ascension, Enlightenment- that's on YOU to achieve. These people are merely giving data, knowledge, information for you to take or NOT take on your way there. Leave it at that.

You are the captain and commander of your own soul. So take some damn responsibility!
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All of you are fools.

Blah blah blah Drunvalo is the light, Anna is the devil, or Drunvalo is a snake, Anna is a saint!

Who gives a shit!'

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You obviously give a shit as you seem to have spent about an

hour of your precious time typing out your opinion


(and that is all it is a little incy wincy opinion)

on the matter!!!



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LMAO

AnnaHaze .... priceless
she is defintely possessed .
While googling her name I noticed she was basically a nobody until the ProjectCamelot interviews ascended her "Ascension Mechanics " to the top of the charts.
Bad day for whistle-blowers everywhere.
Someone here said Psychic Vampire ???
Without question !!!
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An Hour?

Took me 15-20 minutes tops. *gasp* there's people who type and think really fast!

AnnaHaze, energy vampires. You guys are scared little children. Oh no someone has some really comprehensive, technical, and spiritual knowledge-it's got to be fake! It's got to be evil!

As always, humanity afraid of things they do not understand. People claim Anna has Ego, but everything being said here reeks of Ego. Any time you can judge someone else can call them such harsh names it shows the intention.

It's funny how people also criticize others for making money. If you've seen the scope of the information, it's obvious whoever works on bringing it "forward" spends 24/7 doing this. I mean to a point where there is probably very little sleep involved. How do you keep a roof over your head? How do you make enough money to distribute materials and arrange workshops? How do you write books, WHILE you are compiling all this information together as well as transmitting it?

We live in a world where no matter HOW enlightened you are, if you wish to work inside the system, you have to be a part of it! You guys are hypocrites, you expect someone to selflessly give that much time and effort into something- not having enough time for another job- and then expect them to make no money off of it?

Yes. Any time making money comes into spiritual paradigms it REALLY detracts alot from it. But I see very little other ways of how it could be done. The alternative I see is working standard jobs, which means the information would be dispensed much slower.

Some of you REALLY lack common sense. You believe what you want to believe. SO instead, she's some money hungry snake posessed by a demon out to steal your soul. The latter sounds more ridiculous than anything she's ever said. Oh her information is fear based? Maybe it's YOU who's fear based.

It's clear if Disclosure ever came forward, or if we realized what this planet really was- you COULD NOT handle the truth. You would start polarizing, OMG fear this, omg fear that, that's not enlightenment! It becomes clear as day why some within the Occult and Illuminism studies keep their stuff secret. For the exact same type of mis-understanding and profane judgments of silly people gathering in groups and exhibiting their Herd mentality.

Because you guys get in little groups and feed your own drama you assume you are correct. Oh look it's a little congregation of people who believe enlightenment is this and NOT that, I MUST be right!

Now does this mean I agree with Anna or anything going on? Not necessarily. The teachings could of indeed been distorted by the desire for money, or maybe the field possession of ET beings. But I have an open mind, and there is lots of "true" knowledge within the paradigm.I have also learned to DISCERN. It's obvious it's just biased towards a specific viewpoint.

You don't need mechancis to ascend, learning the basic sciences of the manifest, and spirit is food for the mind and soul. For example there IS a science to meditation- does that mean you need to KNOW the science to meditate!?!!? NO. Common sense. The SAME thing goes for Ascension.

The internal mechanics are a reflection of external mechanics. I don't think Anna is tryin to say you need her techniques to Ascend. She is just tasked with revealing agendas and stuff that might be worse for your merkaba rather than better for it in the long run. It should be common sense that ANYBODY who focuses on love/light and their connection to the Highest expression of Self will go where they need to go!

I think the FEAR comes from the inability for some of you to understand the scope of others knowledge- it's not a DO THIS OR GO TO HELL mentality, if that's the way it comes off it's because of 1) Anna, and 2) Your own conditioning archetyped into thinking in a dualistic fashion. The "Fall" is nothing more than a free will choice of how energy gets expended and returns to it's origin. It's NOT evil, it's NOT hell.

I see the mechanics and techniques which raise the awareness high enough to be more of things that help those who want to help- work directly with grids and specific types of energies to anchor in certain frequencies. Also to open the pathways for ascension. I DON'T think it's the ONLY way. I Think it has very specific objectives that might appeal to those who feel it is their mission on their planet to work with those things.

If you don't resonate, then your mission is different. People working on grids/frequency, people going around the world providing relief for poor people, people teaching about enlightenment and Ascension, people talking of the conspiracy around us and trying to get us aware of it. THEY ARE ALL LIGHTWORKERS!!!!! ALL on the same TEAM. And yes sometimes we fall short because of Bias, a tiny human scope of the reality we live in, money, among other things. But it's still effort towards the same thing...

Re-awakening.

It's funny how easy it is to put a scare in people and get their fires burning. Some of you saw the Project Camelot interview and assume that's all there is to the information. Same goes for Drunvalo and all the other Guru's. Just take what resonates and leave what doesn't.

The drama is multi-dimensional, it is multi-faceted. Which is why I make an effort to look at the SAME thing from as MANY ways as I can. And I find in a sense, that they are ALL true. From different points of Bias, they are ALL true.

Consciousness is infinite, creation is infinite. It is the ability to perceive and see the truth SUBJECTIVELY and individually that is the greatest gift of all. If you really want to move forward you are going to not just have to let go of your Ego, but your pre-conceived notions of what enlightenment/ascension is, your judgements of others, what's good and evil. ESPECIALLY moving beyond duality. It is the checkerboard- the illusion of good and evil that KEEPS you stuck in its polarity matrix. Move beyond that, and then you will begin to see the "truth" in things without your egotistical bias coming through. Learn to learn, freely, without fear or judgment.

That is the last thing I will say.

Or you can keep believing in possessed people who are out to get you and suck your energy with their knowledge. It's up to you.
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until all of you have read all of both teachings and have digested the full amount of information therein i suggest you all spend the time you use to argue on who's teachings are right (which is why most wars have been fought in this universe)looking inward and preparing yourselves for the coming changes. have you not grasped yet that anything that makes you look outside of you for anything is trying to keep you from your birthright path of ascension.
you are the guru
you are your saviour
only ONE truth can resonate within the angelic human race
use your naturally given senses and you will quieten down the right/wrong good/bad chatter and start to learn something.

good luck all! hopefully see you on the other side :)
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Drunvalo sits in the south on the medicine wheel of life with the core principle seat of trust and innocence, which of course is totally logical for his teaching comes out of the Native American tradtion, and the red race who reside in trust and innocense at their core according to medicine wheel teachings.

Ashayana sits in the north of the medicine wheel, the core principle seat of knowledge and science - hence their teachings come from different directions with a different vibrational quality from the medicine wheel of teaching.

Differences between them are seated in both of their unresolved aspects of consciousness surrounding ego, attachment, fear, insecurity, etc. all the same old issues you and I are susceptible to because we are not ascended masters, hence in their personal lives they will mirror much the same as you and me, make errors, pick them selves up and go on and make errors again till the learning is complete or their DNA shifts

They would do well to both learn to dance upon the medicine wheel in all 8 directions their full psychology and energy. This would eleminate much of the friction between them and they could learn to support one another and learn from one another.

What path you choose will be the one that resonates the most with you reflecting best where you stand now and your capacity for growth. Ultimately it makes little difference. If your heart and your intent is clear it matters not what mediation you do for your soul effort and direction is beyond your mediation and will continue with or without your single and limited personality help though meditation. You have many selves working together, driving to a single destination. Be clear in your intent and your heart. Continue to work out lower personality drives and limitations. When the energy fully shifts and our DNA is activated it will occur no matter how you meditate. You will see your destiny better at that time and should be able to make shifts accordingly. Your intent directed towards your soul will make the outcome you desire.

Those with no intent on any level will be the lost ones.

This is how I see it
and I do think it is pretty cool to have the diagrams of the cosmos accessible.

When you leave, if you leave, are you sure you know what direction to head in? Native Americans have talked about road maps to the stars for a very long time... these are the very first I have seen. How about you?
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Anyone charging up to 15,000+ dollars to ascend, clearly does not understand the supposed dire situation of humanity and this planetary/ galactic situation... I would make these teachings available to anyone who was interested to have cared enough to even look into this material... WE DESERVE TO ASCEND TOGETHER...NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR A TICKET OUT OF THIS PLACE, IF WE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE WORK---THEN THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH--AFTER ALL THIS IS A HUGE THING RIGHT??? EPIC!!!!
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their biggest difference is on the direction of the merkaba. If you meditate to Drunvalo's way, then Ashayana says you'll turn into cosmic dust and if you do it vice-versa, then Drunvalo says you'll implode.

I've done it both ways and I'm still here...



No "exercise" is going to bring you to enlightenment or god and this is the problem i have with both these two. An asshole can do this meditation for 20 years and do it "properly" and still be an ASSHOLE. I've met people who have done these workshops with both camps and into this shit for YEARS and they are still the most pathetic, addicted, assholes. YOU DO NOT ACHIEVE ENLIGHTENMENT AND "ASSENSION" THROUGH EXTERNAL ACTIVITIES. You do it from within.

Sorry, the "merkaba" teaching haven't been around for plenty of people who became enlightened. And all this "ascension" bullshit is just another way to get the new agers to avoid the HERE AND NOW on EARTH (a great place without all the control freaks).

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Words of wisdom, indeed. Thanks for setting the mood for my day. I'm off to listen to Ramana Maharshi
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I have been reading Drunvalo's Serpent of Light. It makes me nervous. It does not resonate with me.

His relationship with Thoth is troubling. Crowley had a relationship with Thoth also. Thoth is not one of the good guys.

I am still not sure about Ahayana. She spews info like Laura K.-J. Is something controlling these women that makes them look smart? The interview with Kerry Cassidy and Ashayana is similar to her interview with Laura Knight. There is so much info coming at her that she has no time to interrupt or question. Very unlike Kerry's interviews. Curious.

DRUNVALO'S BOOK "SERPENT OF LIGHT" IS FILLED WITH MISTRUTHS. I CROSSED PATHS WITH HIM AND HIS GROUP ON THE JOURNEY THAT HE WRITES ABOUT IN THIS BOOK AND NOT ONLY ARE THE DATES GIVEN OFF, BUT WHAT HAPPENED ON THOSE DATES IS NOT TRUE. I HAVE CROSSED PATHS WITH HIM ON 3 OCCASSIONS AND CAN TELL YOU THAT HE IS COLD-BLOODED AND THAT THE (MIS)INFORMATION HE PUTS OUT THERE IS USUALLY STOLEN FROM OTHER PEOPLES WORK. USE DISCERNMENT HERE.

AS FAR AS ASH'S WORK, WELL, JUST WATCHING ONE OF HER VIDEO'S TELLS ME THAT SHE IS DELUSIONAL AND AN OPERATIVE FOR THE DARK FORCES. A FEAR-BASED APPROACH IS A HUGE RED FLAG!
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Hi all! I'm a bit late joining the conversation, but I would like to make a point here. Both of the individuals we are discussing charge a metric ton of cash for their techniques, access to their workshops, ect. I'm waiting for the teacher who resonates with me, as well as offers their teachings for free. I mean, how hard is it to make a youtube video with a guided meditation for beginners? Or at least a description of what we are supposed to be doing in meditation to achieve the goals we are supposed to with practice. They are both so cryptic about such things. I just wish they would be more straight forward. I believe that they are both telling partial truths. Perhaps if we all simply look inside ourselves, the answer will just be there...

With the economy the way it is who can afford all of these books and CDs? If they consider the teachings to be SO important to our race why don't they just teach more teachers and get the information out there in any way possible?

*sigh*
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OP, what does your heart tell you?

When someone sets out on a negative campaign against some one else, it is more revealing than what is said.

Drunvalo stands in his own light. He has no need to tear others down. And if he did, I would no longer respect him.
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ONE IS NOT BETTER THAN THE OTHER. THEY ARE BOTH SPREADING DISTORTIONS AND LIES. DRUNVALO IS A CERTIFIED REPTILLIAN HOST. ASHEYANA OR WHATEVER SHE MIGHT BE CALLING HERSELF THESE DAYS, WAS PART OF THE EXPERIMENTS DONE AT MONTAUK. SHE ALSO HAS/HAS HAD A DRUG PROBLEM.

SO BE CAREFUL NOT TO COMPARE ONE "TEACHER" TO ANOTHER, AS THE SET UP HERE IS TO CAUSE CONFUSION AND FEAR.

AND BOTH OF THEIR MERKABA "EXERCISES" WILL MESS YOU UP. SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION IS A PROCESS WHICH TAKES TIME. YOU CANT SPEED IT UP BY DOING ENERGY EXERCISES! AND IF YOU TRY, YOU ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE.
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hi , first time i saw drunvalo speak i coulndt trust him
and i believe i am right
someone here already spoke of the toth crowley connection
order of golden dawn hermatic order ,and it's other name for drunva's emerald tablets ; tabula smaragdina

in drunvalo's accounts he toth and the other two ,probaly himself being ra! they are the heroes well i dont think so
ashayana is surely right when she says in voyagers 2
that the stargates need to be activated by humans
wasent that what drunvalo was doing with his'folowers' on excaly the same sites on earth as ashayana says are the stargate locations!

may i speak upon ramtha's account on things;
the three atlantian gods of the intellect!
meaning toth, aragoth or whatever and ra! i believe drunvalo is ra you see! anyway ,the three atlantian gods
used what would be a atomic light crystal laser blast
at the sky ,with the intention to break the cloud cover that once surrounded the entire earth to protect all life from the radio activity of the sun!
The flood ,the downfall of lumeria and atlantis) (the sun killed all it shined upon because life was not used to its effects so after first lumeria was destroyed than all inhabitant of lumeria and upper prats ofa atlanits fled to the southern part of atlantis fleeing form the sun!!!!!)

there are some parts in this hole history story both of you have left out regarding ; jehowa , yahweh ,id
and it is time for the truth!!!
the indigo's are losing this 'war' for earth failing our mission, we have become blinded ,troubled ,misguided ,and have proven to be ineffective !

i can see ahayana is lacking in spiritual understanding
and anyone speaking of tehuti toth is on the wrong side indeed ,i am not asking ahsayana or drunvalo anything
I am asking those who stand with the indigo's on earth,
those who would stand up for us ,this earth, it's gates ,it's people inner and outer! to be hounest!!!
we can no longer walk around blinded , going about our daily affairs believing we are saving this world, while they are destroying us while nothing is happening!
nobody not already partially awakened wants to listen anymore, introducing these concept to people who knew nothing was 'easy' before nowadays ,there is a barrier!
ashayana why is there no voyagers 3?
why are we left here without anything! if we lost WE NEED TO KNOW!!! because we are left here and lied to by drunvalo's bashar's Galactic federetive's ashtar commando's new age decpetion movements' and so on!!!!!!!! what does the emerald order expect us to do here? run from nwo/owo ?
i thought this would be the best place to ask! not because of those who put down their little replies! i wont even read! but because of who is reading!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I was searching to find the middle ground to this and read all your posts. I've seen Drunvalos videos and Deane's too. I must admit that my heart goes with all of Drunvalos teachings. I was happy to find these letters that made me realize that my instincts were correct.

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I have no doubt that Ass-Eye-Anna is a demon hosting hukster of the most slippery kind... she is also a thieving plagiarist, using her ripped off victims as a stepping stone to promote her twisted truths and fill empty pages in both books and peoples minds - BEWARE! Drunvelo is not much better. Both look exceedingly unhealthy - if this stuff REALLY worked.... wouldn't the teachers reflect it? Both play on peoples insecurities and borrow very liberally and loosely from history, art and religion. They should both be ashamed for duping well meaning people for profit and power.

As it has already been stated.... the best and biggest truths are most often found clothed in the sackcloth of simplicity. Be honest with yourselves about yourselves, your conscience, your ego and the difference between want and need.... and in the truth you shall be freed.

I would rather use plants for guidance than people, 8 days a week. Nature Nurtures - while Man Manipulates.

Be Well All - I hope you find your way.
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Hey folks, I don't know if this thread is dead or not, but I wanted to add something.

I haven't looked in to Anna's or Drunvalo's work too much, but from what I've seen, it seems very complex. Having a basic knowledge of Taoist practices such as qi gong/chi gung I would submit that some very foundational groundwork is missing from both camps. The first step in spiritual growth would be to get the mind and body healthy and dissolve the ego. That right there is probably 10 YEARS worth of work - eating healthy, breathing correctly, sitting and standing meditation, qi gong (which is basically just getting the kinks out of your nervous system, at the basic level).

Once that is done, I think you can start talking about which direction your merkaba is rotating or whatever you call it. In Taoism they talk about internal alchemy, but that higher level stuff comes after YEARS of practice, probably 5-10 AT LEAST. My point being that discussion of these highly complex concepts seems a bit premature..
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Hey folks, I don't know if this thread is dead or not, but I wanted to add something.

I haven't looked in to Anna's or Drunvalo's work too much, but from what I've seen, it seems very complex. Having a basic knowledge of Taoist practices such as qi gong/chi gung I would submit that some very foundational groundwork is missing from both camps. The first step in spiritual growth would be to get the mind and body healthy and dissolve the ego. That right there is probably 10 YEARS worth of work - eating healthy, breathing correctly, sitting and standing meditation, qi gong (which is basically just getting the kinks out of your nervous system, at the basic level).

Once that is done, I think you can start talking about which direction your merkaba is rotating or whatever you call it. In Taoism they talk about internal alchemy, but that higher level stuff comes after YEARS of practice, probably 5-10 AT LEAST. My point being that discussion of these highly complex concepts seems a bit premature..
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Drunvalo doesnt go into dissolving the ego, unless I think you go to maybe his wifes classes or the red school classes.

drunvalo mainly teaches his merkaba and heart meditation.

his wife teaches the blue school, and there is another guy that teaches the red school.

If you go through his workshops, its mostly stories and explanations, and at the end he goes into the processes.

He doesnt go into the meditation and dissolving the ego because its not his focus to teach meditation. Its to get people to make the merkaba so they can prepare for the pole shift.

As for who ever is right on the merkaba its really simple which one is right, do it intuitively and allow your body to spin it in the correct way its suppose to spin.

As for Asharaya Deane, just starting her stuff now to get more insight. I only listened to one of her programs called evolutionary path of consciousness.

Her material is more technical, so its not as easy to understand. I think asharaya deane also tries to put more material into it, and possibly crams too much.

I did two of her meditations in that program and I felt significantly better, in terms of overall feeling. Her karmic shadow dissolving meditation was good. Her Godseed Meditation I found was incredible as well.

For myself the details and stories are interesting, but as someone who has meditated for 4 years, I am into the inner journey, and if you follow your heart, I think you can get alot out of both.

Drunvalo is mainly merkaba and his heart meditation. I did his merkaba for two months and had no problems, felt good as well. You have to move your awareness in his merkaba as he guides, and feel the emotions.

From what I understand, both are teaching doomsday scenarios. For myself as I said i am more into the materials for the inner journey and processes.

You have to listen to both if you do the programs with a neutral mind. If you allow your ego to get involved you wont get much out of either. Use what resonates with you.
Also you are not doing the programs for the fantastic stories that are told. You are doing it for the inner processes and to raise your level of consciousness.

Starting asharaya deanes stuff so cant comment on her yet.

But Drunvalo had plenty of fantastic stories which I have yet to see the technology put into use to improve the worlds environmental condition. Also drunvalo preaches pole shift, which may be happening, but he uses it also to impulse people into fear. In general I find anyone who uses fear is probably not doing the people any favors. Especially since it activates the ego when you have fear. But i remain neutral to this as well. It may be happening or it may not, but it wont help you raise your level of consciousness dwelling on it. The problem with drunvalo is, if you have fear, you basically screwed trying to get into 4th dimension. He doesnt give you a method to release them, he just tells you to get therapy in his videos. So you may have to use something like sedona method to release your fears if you have them acting up alot. And yes you have to become aware of your ego, and begin the separation game.

Jamshaman drunvalo doesnt talk about dissolving ego, but implied you need to dissolve it and get out of polarity. He just doesnt teach it thats all.

As for dissolving the ego, its all about just releasing it, little by little each day in meditation. Focusing on not judging things as much. Havent done chi gong so dont know the processes, but you can release the ego and fears and other resistances using sedona method and in meditation. For me anyway its about not judging things, becoming aware of the mind chatter at times and releasing, so I dont feed it any mental or emotional energy to keep it going. At the moment its about being centered in the heart or heart chakra.
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Hey folks, I don't know if this thread is dead or not, but I wanted to add something.

I haven't looked in to Anna's or Drunvalo's work too much, but from what I've seen, it seems very complex. Having a basic knowledge of Taoist practices such as qi gong/chi gung I would submit that some very foundational groundwork is missing from both camps. The first step in spiritual growth would be to get the mind and body healthy and dissolve the ego. That right there is probably 10 YEARS worth of work - eating healthy, breathing correctly, sitting and standing meditation, qi gong (which is basically just getting the kinks out of your nervous system, at the basic level).

Once that is done, I think you can start talking about which direction your merkaba is rotating or whatever you call it. In Taoism they talk about internal alchemy, but that higher level stuff comes after YEARS of practice, probably 5-10 AT LEAST. My point being that discussion of these highly complex concepts seems a bit premature..
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Drunvalo doesnt go into dissolving the ego, unless I think you go to maybe his wifes classes or the red school classes.

drunvalo mainly teaches his merkaba and heart meditation.

his wife teaches the blue school, and there is another guy that teaches the red school.

If you go through his workshops, its mostly stories and explanations, and at the end he goes into the processes.

He doesnt go into the meditation and dissolving the ego because its not his focus to teach meditation. Its to get people to make the merkaba so they can prepare for the pole shift.

As for who ever is right on the merkaba its really simple which one is right, do it intuitively and allow your body to spin it in the correct way its suppose to spin.

As for Asharaya Deane, just starting her stuff now to get more insight. I only listened to one of her programs called evolutionary path of consciousness.

Her material is more technical, so its not as easy to understand. I think asharaya deane also tries to put more material into it, and possibly crams too much.

I did two of her meditations in that program and I felt significantly better, in terms of overall feeling. Her karmic shadow dissolving meditation was good. Her Godseed Meditation I found was incredible as well.

For myself the details and stories are interesting, but as someone who has meditated for 4 years, I am into the inner journey, and if you follow your heart, I think you can get alot out of both.

Drunvalo is mainly merkaba and his heart meditation. I did his merkaba for two months and had no problems, felt good as well. You have to move your awareness in his merkaba as he guides, and feel the emotions.

From what I understand, both are teaching doomsday scenarios. For myself as I said i am more into the materials for the inner journey and processes.

You have to listen to both if you do the programs with a neutral mind. If you allow your ego to get involved you wont get much out of either. Use what resonates with you.
Also you are not doing the programs for the fantastic stories that are told. You are doing it for the inner processes and to raise your level of consciousness.

Starting asharaya deanes stuff so cant comment on her yet.

But Drunvalo had plenty of fantastic stories which I have yet to see the technology put into use to improve the worlds environmental condition. Also drunvalo preaches pole shift, which may be happening, but he uses it also to impulse people into fear. In general I find anyone who uses fear is probably not doing the people any favors. Especially since it activates the ego when you have fear. But i remain neutral to this as well. It may be happening or it may not, but it wont help you raise your level of consciousness dwelling on it. The problem with drunvalo is, if you have fear, you basically screwed trying to get into 4th dimension. He doesnt give you a method to release them, he just tells you to get therapy in his videos. So you may have to use something like sedona method to release your fears if you have them acting up alot. And yes you have to become aware of your ego, and begin the separation game.

Jamshaman drunvalo doesnt talk about dissolving ego, but implied you need to dissolve it and get out of polarity. He just doesnt teach it thats all.

As for dissolving the ego, its all about just releasing it, little by little each day in meditation. Focusing on not judging things as much. Havent done chi gong so dont know the processes, but you can release the ego and fears and other resistances using sedona method and in meditation. For me anyway its about not judging things, becoming aware of the mind chatter at times and releasing, so I dont feed it any mental or emotional energy to keep it going. At the moment its about being centered in the heart or heart chakra.
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Dru is a very dark being.

He has been seen with solid black eyes ,whites and all ,solid black....by many.

Deane is justas dark.
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Both are demons.
Drun has overtaken the body of a human being when this human was over 40. Where is he now? Stored in a prison cell in his own body, while Drunno drives it?

No, really seriously, these are very evil methods and teachings. Stay away from them.

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