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Anyone Else Protesting BP?

 
Enough Already
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Sticks and stones.......fuck BP.....read the sig, nut mold


add these to your sig. they are all petroleum based.

just trying to help.

ammonia
anesthetics
antifreeze
antihistamines
antiseptics
artificial limbs
artificial turf
aspirin
awnings
balloons
ballpoint pens
bandages
basketballs
bearing grease
bicycle tires
boats
cameras
candles
car battery cases
car enamel
cassettes
caulking
cd player
cd's
clothes
clothesline
cold cream
combs
cortisone
crayons
curtains
dashboards
denture adhesive
dentures
deodorant
detergents
dice
diesel
dishes
dishwasher
dresses
drinking cups
dyes
electric blankets
electrician's tape
enamel
epoxy
eyeglasses
fan belts
faucet washers
fertilizers
fishing boots
fishing lures
fishing rods
floor wax
folding doors
food preservatives
football cleats
football helmets
footballs
footballs
gasoline
glycerin
golf bags
golf balls
guitar strings
hair coloring
hair curlers
hand lotion
heart valves
house paint
ice chests
ice cube trays
ink
insect repellent
insecticides
life jackets
linings
linoleum
lipstick
luggage
model cars
mops
motor oil
motorcycle helmet
movie film
nail polish
nylon rope
oil filters
paint
paint brushes
paint rollers
panty hose
parachutes
percolators
perfumes
petroleum jelly
pillows
plastic wood
purses
putty
refrigerant
refrigerators
roller skates
roofing
rubber cement
rubbing alcohol
safety glasses
shag rugs
shampoo
shaving cream
shoe polish
shoes
shower curtains
skis
slacks
soap
soft contact lenses
solvents
speakers
sports car bodies
sun glasses
surf boards
sweaters
synthetic rubber
telephones
tennis rackets
tents
tires
toilet seats
tool boxes
tool racks
toothbrushes
toothpaste
transparent tape
trash bags
tv cabinets
umbrellas
upholstery
vaporizers
vitamin capsules
water pipes
wheels
yarn

Second list found on Gasprices-usa.com:

air conditioners
ammonia
anti-histamines
antiseptics
artificial turf
asphalt
aspirin
balloons
bandages
boats
bottles
bras
bubble gum
butane
cameras
candles
car batteries
car bodies
carpet
cassette tapes
caulking
cds
chewing gum
combs/brushes
computers
contacts
cortisone
crayons
cream
denture adhesives
deodorant
detergents
dice
dishwashing liquid
dresses
dryers
electric blankets
electrician’s tape
fertilizers
fishing lures
fishing rods
floor wax
footballs
glues
glycerin
golf balls
guitar strings
hair
hair coloring
hair curlers
hearing aids
heart valves
heating oil
house paint
ice chests
ink
insect repellent
insulation
jet fuel
life jackets
linoleum
lip balm
lipstick
loudspeakers
medicines
mops
motor oil
motorcycle helmets
movie film
nail polish
oil filters
paddles
paint brushes
paints
parachutes
paraffin
pens
perfumes
petroleum jelly
plastic chairs
plastic cups
plastic forks
plastic wrap
plastics
plywood adhesives
refrigerators
roller-skate wheels
roofing paper
rubber bands
rubber boots
rubber cement
rubbish bags
running shoes
saccharine
seals
shirts (non-cotton)
shoe polish
shoes
shower curtains
solvents
spectacles
stereos
sweaters
table tennis balls
tape recorders
telephones
tennis rackets
thermos
tights
toilet seats
toners
toothpaste
transparencies
transparent tape
tv cabinets
typewriter/computer ribbons
tires
umbrellas
upholstery
vaporizers
vitamin capsules
volleyballs
water pipes
water skis
wax
wax paper
 Quoting: unseen 990057


The Chinese have manufactured enough of that crap to last a lifetime.

Seen the pacific garbage patch lately?
HEBGB

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06/05/2010 12:52 PM
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Sticks and stones.......fuck BP.....read the sig, nut mold


add these to your sig. they are all petroleum based.

just trying to help.

ammonia
anesthetics
antifreeze
antihistamines
antiseptics
artificial limbs
artificial turf
aspirin
awnings
balloons
ballpoint pens
bandages
basketballs
bearing grease
bicycle tires
boats
cameras
candles
car battery cases
car enamel
cassettes
caulking
cd player
cd's
clothes
clothesline
cold cream
combs
cortisone
crayons
curtains
dashboards
denture adhesive
dentures
deodorant
detergents
dice
diesel
dishes
dishwasher
dresses
drinking cups
dyes
electric blankets
electrician's tape
enamel
epoxy
eyeglasses
fan belts
faucet washers
fertilizers
fishing boots
fishing lures
fishing rods
floor wax
folding doors
food preservatives
football cleats
football helmets
footballs
footballs
gasoline
glycerin
golf bags
golf balls
guitar strings
hair coloring
hair curlers
hand lotion
heart valves
house paint
ice chests
ice cube trays
ink
insect repellent
insecticides
life jackets
linings
linoleum
lipstick
luggage
model cars
mops
motor oil
motorcycle helmet
movie film
nail polish
nylon rope
oil filters
paint
paint brushes
paint rollers
panty hose
parachutes
percolators
perfumes
petroleum jelly
pillows
plastic wood
purses
putty
refrigerant
refrigerators
roller skates
roofing
rubber cement
rubbing alcohol
safety glasses
shag rugs
shampoo
shaving cream
shoe polish
shoes
shower curtains
skis
slacks
soap
soft contact lenses
solvents
speakers
sports car bodies
sun glasses
surf boards
sweaters
synthetic rubber
telephones
tennis rackets
tents
tires
toilet seats
tool boxes
tool racks
toothbrushes
toothpaste
transparent tape
trash bags
tv cabinets
umbrellas
upholstery
vaporizers
vitamin capsules
water pipes
wheels
yarn

Second list found on Gasprices-usa.com:

air conditioners
ammonia
anti-histamines
antiseptics
artificial turf
asphalt
aspirin
balloons
bandages
boats
bottles
bras
bubble gum
butane
cameras
candles
car batteries
car bodies
carpet
cassette tapes
caulking
cds
chewing gum
combs/brushes
computers
contacts
cortisone
crayons
cream
denture adhesives
deodorant
detergents
dice
dishwashing liquid
dresses
dryers
electric blankets
electrician’s tape
fertilizers
fishing lures
fishing rods
floor wax
footballs
glues
glycerin
golf balls
guitar strings
hair
hair coloring
hair curlers
hearing aids
heart valves
heating oil
house paint
ice chests
ink
insect repellent
insulation
jet fuel
life jackets
linoleum
lip balm
lipstick
loudspeakers
medicines
mops
motor oil
motorcycle helmets
movie film
nail polish
oil filters
paddles
paint brushes
paints
parachutes
paraffin
pens
perfumes
petroleum jelly
plastic chairs
plastic cups
plastic forks
plastic wrap
plastics
plywood adhesives
refrigerators
roller-skate wheels
roofing paper
rubber bands
rubber boots
rubber cement
rubbish bags
running shoes
saccharine
seals
shirts (non-cotton)
shoe polish
shoes
shower curtains
solvents
spectacles
stereos
sweaters
table tennis balls
tape recorders
telephones
tennis rackets
thermos
tights
toilet seats
toners
toothpaste
transparencies
transparent tape
tv cabinets
typewriter/computer ribbons
tires
umbrellas
upholstery
vaporizers
vitamin capsules
volleyballs
water pipes
water skis
wax
wax paper
 Quoting: unseen 990057



Just talking about BP products. seems like you work there...
DO not buy BP, Castrol or AMOCO Gas, Oil or other BP petroleum products.
unseen
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06/05/2010 12:53 PM
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their suspicions, could have possibly saved lives.


But, having now watched the videos, you do understand that BP has a bit more complicity than you had originally outlined for us, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910


i do agree according to the video, bp was pressuring the rig operators. however the rig operators didn't do their job and stop operation when there was a problem.

no offense here with my next statement.

if the employees operated the equipment wrong, whether or not under pressure, are they not liable for their actions? Yes the employer has to answer for their actions, true, but in this case the operators where, undeniably, transocean. who buy the was has been working their asses off to get a cap on their liability.
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06/05/2010 12:54 PM
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NOW back to the videos, they are very interesting and offer a first hand account. If you look up transocean's operating policy's, ANY employee can stop work on a rig at ANY time they think it is no longer safe. It is my opinion that when they found the rubber these employees should have killed the operation right then. I don't accept the whole "he told me to jump off the bridge" attitude. This is a very sad event and from the videos it seems that the transocean employees saw it coming. I wish they would have acted on their suspicions, could have possibly saved lives.



But, having now watched the videos, you do understand that BP has a bit more complicity than you had originally outlined for us, right?

(bump for new page)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910


It takes "unseen" a while to work up a response - he has to wait on word from his oil-slathered handlers! lol
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06/05/2010 12:54 PM
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It's raining today, so tommorow the kids and I will be protesting in front of BP.
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clappa

creating a very subversive ad campaign about this soon. :)
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06/05/2010 12:55 PM
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Just talking about BP products. seems like you work there...
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these products USE BPs products.. you do understand that Sony does not make petroleum right?
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yea I went to get gas yesterday

BP on one side of the street was totally empty

other gas station had cars waiting in line..

I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line..

I will never buy gas at a BP station again

EVER
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


With you on that... they screwed the pooch and now Florida is done. Nature is done. Economy down here is almost done. So why would I fund them even more by buying their fuel products? Especially since, once they know things are really going to go badly, they will start moving funds off the books and go into bankruptyc protection to restructure and then move those funds back in and continue business as usually (possibly under a different brand name.)

And that's how the story always goes...
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06/05/2010 12:56 PM
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It takes "unseen" a while to work up a response - he has to wait on word from his oil-slathered handlers! lol
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i think before i speak.
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06/05/2010 12:57 PM
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if the employees operated the equipment wrong, whether or not under pressure, are they not liable for their actions? Yes the employer has to answer for their actions, true, but in this case the operators where, undeniably, transocean. who buy the was has been working their asses off to get a cap on their liability.
 Quoting: unseen 990057


Well, as much as it irritates me I do have to concede you this point. Transocean does have culpability and yes we shouldn't forget this. However I still personally blame BP for the majority of this mess.
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what am i gonna do with my lil BP truck i had since i was a kidlet???
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...they will start moving funds off the books...
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They have been doing this since April 20th.

Who are you kidding?
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o nevermind it was a Hess truck... 5a
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Used to gas up there, not anymore. I have also asked friend and family not to gas up at any BP stations. Think the idea of them not being able to pay for this spill because they go broke is a bit ridiculous. More likely they will try to get out of paying for it by using our own legal system and their bottom feeding lawyers, against us.
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***CEO: BP will make good on $10 billion in profit payouts to shareholders, despite spill*****
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Well, as much as it irritates me I do have to concede you this point. Transocean does have culpability and yes we shouldn't forget this. However I still personally blame BP for the majority of this mess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910


BP is by no means in the clear - they do own the oil that is gushing out into the gulf. I personally think that they have made some really dumb choices, however, they are choices. I am sorry that this happened. But it did. I am only interested in the cleanup and the truth of how it happened. I do have to get things done around here, so with that I will have to take leave for now as the punching bag.
Great discussion (even if you called me an asshole), thanks for the video links, they were informative.

Good Day,

The Unseen
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Transocean does have culpability
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The below applies to BP, Transocean, and Halliburton for starters.

BP should be protested as a third line of defense.

The widespread course of action should be as follows:

1) Seize all bank accounts and liquid material assets.

2) Boycott all BP products, Suppliers, and Advertisers.

3) Protest through class-action lawsuits demanding compensation to be paid from seized funds.

All funds that have been transfered to BP's partner corporations since April 20th will be siezed as well.

As a matter of principle, Tony Hayward should be personally bankrupted as well. He can mooch off relatives for a while.
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Well, as much as it irritates me I do have to concede you this point. Transocean does have culpability and yes we shouldn't forget this. However I still personally blame BP for the majority of this mess.


BP is by no means in the clear - they do own the oil that is gushing out into the gulf. I personally think that they have made some really dumb choices, however, they are choices. I am sorry that this happened. But it did. I am only interested in the cleanup and the truth of how it happened. I do have to get things done around here, so with that I will have to take leave for now as the punching bag.
Great discussion (even if you called me an asshole), thanks for the video links, they were informative.

Good Day,

The Unseen
 Quoting: unseen 990057


LOL - don't forget "unbelievable prick" and "sociopath"!

Good discussion. I think it's interesting that you don't find this whole thing to be more emotionally flammable, or maybe that you don't understand that aspect of it. But perhaps it is I who should take a lesson. Cooler heads always need to prevail ;-)
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yea I went to get gas yesterday

BP on one side of the street was totally empty

other gas station had cars waiting in line..

I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line..

I will never buy gas at a BP station again

EVER
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


these gas stations are independently owned and operated.
yes ultimately you hurt the corporation but initially you hurt people just like you and me struggling to make a living.
eat shit
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06/05/2010 01:08 PM
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I would suggest you study up on what REALLY happened...


Yeah that's what I was trying to point him to. Funny how he's "gone" now, huh?


watching them now .. please keep this respectful - it is just a debate.


Look asshole - you have NO IDEA how pissed off people are. When you come in here with your BULLSHIT, you damn well better be prepared to be called out on it.



so if i am not a sheep and don't follow your thinking i am an asshole? i really expected to find free thinkers here, which there are a few, however most are just pessimistic doomsayers. no disrespect to those who are not.

NOW back to the videos, they are very interesting and offer a first hand account. If you look up transocean's operating policy's, ANY employee can stop work on a rig at ANY time they think it is no longer safe. It is my opinion that when they found the rubber these employees should have killed the operation right then. I don't accept the whole "he told me to jump off the bridge" attitude. This is a very sad event and from the videos it seems that the transocean employees saw it coming. I wish they would have acted on their suspicions, could have possibly saved lives.
 Quoting: unseen 990057


Of course you dont believe...Finger pointing, another sure sign you have an agenda here..

Look, I work construction and if I am working for a contractor, it is their responsibility AT ALL TIMES to make sure the job is going to plan, safety measures are in place and the CONTRACTOR is the party FULLY RESPONSIBLE...

If I damage a house that I am working on, it is the contractor that is responsible and they will collect from me and in turn pay for the damages done..

BP hired transocean, which was responsible for th 2nd largest oil spill in history...

Yes, TransOcean was the same company with a different name that was responsible for the 1979 IXTOC oil disaster...

Again BP hired a company that had a history involving the 2nd worst oil distster ever...
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I never bought BP gas, it was always the highest priced anyway.
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yea I went to get gas yesterday

BP on one side of the street was totally empty

other gas station had cars waiting in line..

I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line..

I will never buy gas at a BP station again

EVER


don't bankrupt them to early. No one is going to take over that company if they go bankrupt. If they go bankrupt who will fund the clean up?

I'm mad as hell as hell too. But this is a messy situation. I never really went to BP all that much anyway, their gas always smelled bad.
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BANKRUPT,,your kidding right?

BP first-quarter profits up 135% on higher oil price
BP PLC reported a 135 percent jump in first-quarter net profits, compared with the same period last year, beating all forecasts thanks to higher crude and gas prices. BP said replacement cost net profit, which strips out unrealized gains related to rises in the value of inventories, was US$5.65 billion in the quarter, after Brent crude rose 72 percent to an average of more than US$76 per barrel....
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On paper the queen of England and the queen of the netherlands own bp so that's where we need to start.
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Bubble Bubble Oil And Trouble
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Yes the responsible parties here are:

Halliburton
TransOcean
US Government
The MMS

But BP was the one that applied for the permits, this was their well and they are the lead to blame...
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yea I went to get gas yesterday

BP on one side of the street was totally empty

other gas station had cars waiting in line..

I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line..

I will never buy gas at a BP station again

EVER


don't bankrupt them to early. No one is going to take over that company if they go bankrupt. If they go bankrupt who will fund the clean up?

I'm mad as hell as hell too. But this is a messy situation. I never really went to BP all that much anyway, their gas always smelled bad.

BANKRUPT,,your kidding right?

BP first-quarter profits up 135% on higher oil price
BP PLC reported a 135 percent jump in first-quarter net profits, compared with the same period last year, beating all forecasts thanks to higher crude and gas prices. BP said replacement cost net profit, which strips out unrealized gains related to rises in the value of inventories, was US$5.65 billion in the quarter, after Brent crude rose 72 percent to an average of more than US$76 per barrel....
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Yeah it'd be pretty hard to do. BP is a massive company. Massive.
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If BP is "Arco", then no, not really, because I havent used Arco gas in my car in over 10 yrs.

Their gas ruins your car. Makes it run slower, etc, etc.
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Just talking about BP products. seems like you work there...
 Quoting: HEBGB


The bigger picture message I believe HEBGB is attempting to convey is:

1. the problem is systemic; it is NOT unique to BP.

2. BP and other oil companies would not be in operation and seeking to "drill, drill, drill" at any cost if not for CONSUMERS.

And, on this level, HEBGB is correct.

I will add the the gov is just as complicit. In the UK, there are strict laws governing oil companies who want to drill. For example, the majors must form a group working together and funding specialized oil spill response service providers. They have plans in place; they have equip in place; they have trained teams in place in strategic locations who are at the ready 24x7.....all funded by the oil companies. The oil companies are liable for all. Select employees of the majors must also go through spill and disaster training. In fact, someone in my household attended simulated disaster training at a *BP facility* in the UK regarding oil tainted water entering a nuke reactor facility. But I digress.

In the UK, this preparedness and strict contingency plans are law, and it is COB for the majors.

Two points here:

1. BP is knowledgeable in these operations because they have to be to conduct such operations in other countries. So the chaos going on regarding this clean-up (as well as safety measures) is completely unexplainable other than they are not forced.

2. The gov in any country controls regulations. Check with Congress for the reasons the US is so lax.

But be very, very careful not to fall for the cry out for support of Cap and Trade. That bill has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with this issue.

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TransOcean = Sedco

Sedco = the drilling company responsible for 1979 IXTOC oil distaster

BP hired TransOcean/Sedco

BP is at fault, case closed
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You fucking liar

You cant even get into other gas station parking lots because EVERYONE is protesting BP

They have no supporters, other than the lying fucking shills on here



umm there are no BP gas stations here in texas city - and if im not mistaken, in all of Texas, just the plant. I am not sure i fully understand your comment about the gas stations, or even believe it. as far as the supports go, there are quite a few. I do think mistakes were made, however its time to work on a solution to it ALL. not sit around and bitch about it.
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incorrect there is a filling station for employees at the texas city refinery (as '03). And there are BP filling stations in Austin and they were always a little cheaper than everyone else. Additional before BP bought Amoco out their premium was the only fuel that was not taken from a central vessel and then given additives to make it proprietary it came from the refinerary propriatary.

Having knowledge of BP management practices it is a company that I do not support. Protesting is silly in my estimation as the failure here was in regulation by rep and dem and what I would just generally consider a corrupt government. To me you might as well protest Gulf for selling leaded fuel in the 70's....
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Everyone should watch this

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NO just 0bama.. he the one responsible for all of it..