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| Enough Already User ID: 959927  United States06/05/2010 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sticks and stones.......fuck BP.....read the sig, nut mold Quoting: unseen 990057add these to your sig. they are all petroleum based. just trying to help. ammonia anesthetics antifreeze antihistamines antiseptics artificial limbs artificial turf aspirin awnings balloons ballpoint pens bandages basketballs bearing grease bicycle tires boats cameras candles car battery cases car enamel cassettes caulking cd player cd's clothes clothesline cold cream combs cortisone crayons curtains dashboards denture adhesive dentures deodorant detergents dice diesel dishes dishwasher dresses drinking cups dyes electric blankets electrician's tape enamel epoxy eyeglasses fan belts faucet washers fertilizers fishing boots fishing lures fishing rods floor wax folding doors food preservatives football cleats football helmets footballs footballs gasoline glycerin golf bags golf balls guitar strings hair coloring hair curlers hand lotion heart valves house paint ice chests ice cube trays ink insect repellent insecticides life jackets linings linoleum lipstick luggage model cars mops motor oil motorcycle helmet movie film nail polish nylon rope oil filters paint paint brushes paint rollers panty hose parachutes percolators perfumes petroleum jelly pillows plastic wood purses putty refrigerant refrigerators roller skates roofing rubber cement rubbing alcohol safety glasses shag rugs shampoo shaving cream shoe polish shoes shower curtains skis slacks soap soft contact lenses solvents speakers sports car bodies sun glasses surf boards sweaters synthetic rubber telephones tennis rackets tents tires toilet seats tool boxes tool racks toothbrushes toothpaste transparent tape trash bags tv cabinets umbrellas upholstery vaporizers vitamin capsules water pipes wheels yarn Second list found on Gasprices-usa.com: air conditioners ammonia anti-histamines antiseptics artificial turf asphalt aspirin balloons bandages boats bottles bras bubble gum butane cameras candles car batteries car bodies carpet cassette tapes caulking cds chewing gum combs/brushes computers contacts cortisone crayons cream denture adhesives deodorant detergents dice dishwashing liquid dresses dryers electric blankets electrician’s tape fertilizers fishing lures fishing rods floor wax footballs glues glycerin golf balls guitar strings hair hair coloring hair curlers hearing aids heart valves heating oil house paint ice chests ink insect repellent insulation jet fuel life jackets linoleum lip balm lipstick loudspeakers medicines mops motor oil motorcycle helmets movie film nail polish oil filters paddles paint brushes paints parachutes paraffin pens perfumes petroleum jelly plastic chairs plastic cups plastic forks plastic wrap plastics plywood adhesives refrigerators roller-skate wheels roofing paper rubber bands rubber boots rubber cement rubbish bags running shoes saccharine seals shirts (non-cotton) shoe polish shoes shower curtains solvents spectacles stereos sweaters table tennis balls tape recorders telephones tennis rackets thermos tights toilet seats toners toothpaste transparencies transparent tape tv cabinets typewriter/computer ribbons tires umbrellas upholstery vaporizers vitamin capsules volleyballs water pipes water skis wax wax paper The Chinese have manufactured enough of that crap to last a lifetime. Seen the pacific garbage patch lately? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 964530 United States06/05/2010 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sticks and stones.......fuck BP.....read the sig, nut mold Quoting: unseen 990057add these to your sig. they are all petroleum based. just trying to help. ammonia anesthetics antifreeze antihistamines antiseptics artificial limbs artificial turf aspirin awnings balloons ballpoint pens bandages basketballs bearing grease bicycle tires boats cameras candles car battery cases car enamel cassettes caulking cd player cd's clothes clothesline cold cream combs cortisone crayons curtains dashboards denture adhesive dentures deodorant detergents dice diesel dishes dishwasher dresses drinking cups dyes electric blankets electrician's tape enamel epoxy eyeglasses fan belts faucet washers fertilizers fishing boots fishing lures fishing rods floor wax folding doors food preservatives football cleats football helmets footballs footballs gasoline glycerin golf bags golf balls guitar strings hair coloring hair curlers hand lotion heart valves house paint ice chests ice cube trays ink insect repellent insecticides life jackets linings linoleum lipstick luggage model cars mops motor oil motorcycle helmet movie film nail polish nylon rope oil filters paint paint brushes paint rollers panty hose parachutes percolators perfumes petroleum jelly pillows plastic wood purses putty refrigerant refrigerators roller skates roofing rubber cement rubbing alcohol safety glasses shag rugs shampoo shaving cream shoe polish shoes shower curtains skis slacks soap soft contact lenses solvents speakers sports car bodies sun glasses surf boards sweaters synthetic rubber telephones tennis rackets tents tires toilet seats tool boxes tool racks toothbrushes toothpaste transparent tape trash bags tv cabinets umbrellas upholstery vaporizers vitamin capsules water pipes wheels yarn Second list found on Gasprices-usa.com: air conditioners ammonia anti-histamines antiseptics artificial turf asphalt aspirin balloons bandages boats bottles bras bubble gum butane cameras candles car batteries car bodies carpet cassette tapes caulking cds chewing gum combs/brushes computers contacts cortisone crayons cream denture adhesives deodorant detergents dice dishwashing liquid dresses dryers electric blankets electrician’s tape fertilizers fishing lures fishing rods floor wax footballs glues glycerin golf balls guitar strings hair hair coloring hair curlers hearing aids heart valves heating oil house paint ice chests ink insect repellent insulation jet fuel life jackets linoleum lip balm lipstick loudspeakers medicines mops motor oil motorcycle helmets movie film nail polish oil filters paddles paint brushes paints parachutes paraffin pens perfumes petroleum jelly plastic chairs plastic cups plastic forks plastic wrap plastics plywood adhesives refrigerators roller-skate wheels roofing paper rubber bands rubber boots rubber cement rubbish bags running shoes saccharine seals shirts (non-cotton) shoe polish shoes shower curtains solvents spectacles stereos sweaters table tennis balls tape recorders telephones tennis rackets thermos tights toilet seats toners toothpaste transparencies transparent tape tv cabinets typewriter/computer ribbons tires umbrellas upholstery vaporizers vitamin capsules volleyballs water pipes water skis wax wax paper Just talking about BP products. seems like you work there... |
| unseen User ID: 990057 United States06/05/2010 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | their suspicions, could have possibly saved lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910But, having now watched the videos, you do understand that BP has a bit more complicity than you had originally outlined for us, right? i do agree according to the video, bp was pressuring the rig operators. however the rig operators didn't do their job and stop operation when there was a problem. no offense here with my next statement. if the employees operated the equipment wrong, whether or not under pressure, are they not liable for their actions? Yes the employer has to answer for their actions, true, but in this case the operators where, undeniably, transocean. who buy the was has been working their asses off to get a cap on their liability. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 982910 United States06/05/2010 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOW back to the videos, they are very interesting and offer a first hand account. If you look up transocean's operating policy's, ANY employee can stop work on a rig at ANY time they think it is no longer safe. It is my opinion that when they found the rubber these employees should have killed the operation right then. I don't accept the whole "he told me to jump off the bridge" attitude. This is a very sad event and from the videos it seems that the transocean employees saw it coming. I wish they would have acted on their suspicions, could have possibly saved lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910But, having now watched the videos, you do understand that BP has a bit more complicity than you had originally outlined for us, right? (bump for new page) It takes "unseen" a while to work up a response - he has to wait on word from his oil-slathered handlers! lol |
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| Werd User ID: 873894 United States06/05/2010 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yea I went to get gas yesterday Quoting: ^TrInItY^BP on one side of the street was totally empty other gas station had cars waiting in line.. I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line.. I will never buy gas at a BP station again EVER With you on that... they screwed the pooch and now Florida is done. Nature is done. Economy down here is almost done. So why would I fund them even more by buying their fuel products? Especially since, once they know things are really going to go badly, they will start moving funds off the books and go into bankruptyc protection to restructure and then move those funds back in and continue business as usually (possibly under a different brand name.) And that's how the story always goes... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 982910 United States06/05/2010 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the employees operated the equipment wrong, whether or not under pressure, are they not liable for their actions? Yes the employer has to answer for their actions, true, but in this case the operators where, undeniably, transocean. who buy the was has been working their asses off to get a cap on their liability. Quoting: unseen 990057Well, as much as it irritates me I do have to concede you this point. Transocean does have culpability and yes we shouldn't forget this. However I still personally blame BP for the majority of this mess. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 993470 United States06/05/2010 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Used to gas up there, not anymore. I have also asked friend and family not to gas up at any BP stations. Think the idea of them not being able to pay for this spill because they go broke is a bit ridiculous. More likely they will try to get out of paying for it by using our own legal system and their bottom feeding lawyers, against us. rawstroy.com ***CEO: BP will make good on $10 billion in profit payouts to shareholders, despite spill***** |
| unseen User ID: 990057 United States06/05/2010 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, as much as it irritates me I do have to concede you this point. Transocean does have culpability and yes we shouldn't forget this. However I still personally blame BP for the majority of this mess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910BP is by no means in the clear - they do own the oil that is gushing out into the gulf. I personally think that they have made some really dumb choices, however, they are choices. I am sorry that this happened. But it did. I am only interested in the cleanup and the truth of how it happened. I do have to get things done around here, so with that I will have to take leave for now as the punching bag. Great discussion (even if you called me an asshole), thanks for the video links, they were informative. Good Day, The Unseen |
| Guilty as Hell User ID: 959927 United States06/05/2010 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Transocean does have culpability Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910The below applies to BP, Transocean, and Halliburton for starters. BP should be protested as a third line of defense. Quoting: The World Judges BP 959927The widespread course of action should be as follows: 1) Seize all bank accounts and liquid material assets. 2) Boycott all BP products, Suppliers, and Advertisers. 3) Protest through class-action lawsuits demanding compensation to be paid from seized funds. All funds that have been transfered to BP's partner corporations since April 20th will be siezed as well. As a matter of principle, Tony Hayward should be personally bankrupted as well. He can mooch off relatives for a while. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 982910 United States06/05/2010 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, as much as it irritates me I do have to concede you this point. Transocean does have culpability and yes we shouldn't forget this. However I still personally blame BP for the majority of this mess. Quoting: unseen 990057BP is by no means in the clear - they do own the oil that is gushing out into the gulf. I personally think that they have made some really dumb choices, however, they are choices. I am sorry that this happened. But it did. I am only interested in the cleanup and the truth of how it happened. I do have to get things done around here, so with that I will have to take leave for now as the punching bag. Great discussion (even if you called me an asshole), thanks for the video links, they were informative. Good Day, The Unseen LOL - don't forget "unbelievable prick" and "sociopath"! Good discussion. I think it's interesting that you don't find this whole thing to be more emotionally flammable, or maybe that you don't understand that aspect of it. But perhaps it is I who should take a lesson. Cooler heads always need to prevail ;-) |
Blood Washed  User ID: 960766 United States06/05/2010 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yea I went to get gas yesterday Quoting: ^TrInItY^BP on one side of the street was totally empty other gas station had cars waiting in line.. I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line.. I will never buy gas at a BP station again EVER these gas stations are independently owned and operated. yes ultimately you hurt the corporation but initially you hurt people just like you and me struggling to make a living. eat shit |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 985089 United States06/05/2010 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would suggest you study up on what REALLY happened... Quoting: unseen 990057Yeah that's what I was trying to point him to. Funny how he's "gone" now, huh? watching them now .. please keep this respectful - it is just a debate. Look asshole - you have NO IDEA how pissed off people are. When you come in here with your BULLSHIT, you damn well better be prepared to be called out on it. so if i am not a sheep and don't follow your thinking i am an asshole? i really expected to find free thinkers here, which there are a few, however most are just pessimistic doomsayers. no disrespect to those who are not. NOW back to the videos, they are very interesting and offer a first hand account. If you look up transocean's operating policy's, ANY employee can stop work on a rig at ANY time they think it is no longer safe. It is my opinion that when they found the rubber these employees should have killed the operation right then. I don't accept the whole "he told me to jump off the bridge" attitude. This is a very sad event and from the videos it seems that the transocean employees saw it coming. I wish they would have acted on their suspicions, could have possibly saved lives. Of course you dont believe...Finger pointing, another sure sign you have an agenda here.. Look, I work construction and if I am working for a contractor, it is their responsibility AT ALL TIMES to make sure the job is going to plan, safety measures are in place and the CONTRACTOR is the party FULLY RESPONSIBLE... If I damage a house that I am working on, it is the contractor that is responsible and they will collect from me and in turn pay for the damages done.. BP hired transocean, which was responsible for th 2nd largest oil spill in history... Yes, TransOcean was the same company with a different name that was responsible for the 1979 IXTOC oil disaster... Again BP hired a company that had a history involving the 2nd worst oil distster ever... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 993470 United States06/05/2010 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yea I went to get gas yesterday Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910589BP on one side of the street was totally empty other gas station had cars waiting in line.. I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line.. I will never buy gas at a BP station again EVER don't bankrupt them to early. No one is going to take over that company if they go bankrupt. If they go bankrupt who will fund the clean up? I'm mad as hell as hell too. But this is a messy situation. I never really went to BP all that much anyway, their gas always smelled bad. BANKRUPT,,your kidding right? BP first-quarter profits up 135% on higher oil price BP PLC reported a 135 percent jump in first-quarter net profits, compared with the same period last year, beating all forecasts thanks to higher crude and gas prices. BP said replacement cost net profit, which strips out unrealized gains related to rises in the value of inventories, was US$5.65 billion in the quarter, after Brent crude rose 72 percent to an average of more than US$76 per barrel.... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 982910 United States06/05/2010 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yea I went to get gas yesterday Quoting: Anonymous Coward 993470BP on one side of the street was totally empty other gas station had cars waiting in line.. I chose the "other" gas station and waited in line.. I will never buy gas at a BP station again EVER don't bankrupt them to early. No one is going to take over that company if they go bankrupt. If they go bankrupt who will fund the clean up? I'm mad as hell as hell too. But this is a messy situation. I never really went to BP all that much anyway, their gas always smelled bad. BANKRUPT,,your kidding right? BP first-quarter profits up 135% on higher oil price BP PLC reported a 135 percent jump in first-quarter net profits, compared with the same period last year, beating all forecasts thanks to higher crude and gas prices. BP said replacement cost net profit, which strips out unrealized gains related to rises in the value of inventories, was US$5.65 billion in the quarter, after Brent crude rose 72 percent to an average of more than US$76 per barrel.... Yeah it'd be pretty hard to do. BP is a massive company. Massive. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 950567 United States06/05/2010 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just talking about BP products. seems like you work there... Quoting: HEBGBThe bigger picture message I believe HEBGB is attempting to convey is: 1. the problem is systemic; it is NOT unique to BP. 2. BP and other oil companies would not be in operation and seeking to "drill, drill, drill" at any cost if not for CONSUMERS. And, on this level, HEBGB is correct. I will add the the gov is just as complicit. In the UK, there are strict laws governing oil companies who want to drill. For example, the majors must form a group working together and funding specialized oil spill response service providers. They have plans in place; they have equip in place; they have trained teams in place in strategic locations who are at the ready 24x7.....all funded by the oil companies. The oil companies are liable for all. Select employees of the majors must also go through spill and disaster training. In fact, someone in my household attended simulated disaster training at a *BP facility* in the UK regarding oil tainted water entering a nuke reactor facility. But I digress. In the UK, this preparedness and strict contingency plans are law, and it is COB for the majors. Two points here: 1. BP is knowledgeable in these operations because they have to be to conduct such operations in other countries. So the chaos going on regarding this clean-up (as well as safety measures) is completely unexplainable other than they are not forced. 2. The gov in any country controls regulations. Check with Congress for the reasons the US is so lax. But be very, very careful not to fall for the cry out for support of Cap and Trade. That bill has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with this issue. . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 988519 United States06/05/2010 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You fucking liar Quoting: unseen 990057You cant even get into other gas station parking lots because EVERYONE is protesting BP They have no supporters, other than the lying fucking shills on here umm there are no BP gas stations here in texas city - and if im not mistaken, in all of Texas, just the plant. I am not sure i fully understand your comment about the gas stations, or even believe it. as far as the supports go, there are quite a few. I do think mistakes were made, however its time to work on a solution to it ALL. not sit around and bitch about it. incorrect there is a filling station for employees at the texas city refinery (as '03). And there are BP filling stations in Austin and they were always a little cheaper than everyone else. Additional before BP bought Amoco out their premium was the only fuel that was not taken from a central vessel and then given additives to make it proprietary it came from the refinerary propriatary. Having knowledge of BP management practices it is a company that I do not support. Protesting is silly in my estimation as the failure here was in regulation by rep and dem and what I would just generally consider a corrupt government. To me you might as well protest Gulf for selling leaded fuel in the 70's.... |
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