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WHOA!! BP - Footage of new plume from sea floor!!!!

 
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06/06/2010 05:28 PM
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Anyone know why Poseidon ROV is trying to unbolt a flange on the old riser pipe? At least that's what it looks like to me.
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Good question! Maybe the are trying out procedures how to do this unbolting in such deep water.

Reminds me that there is a similar flange at the top of the BOP where that new cap is at the moment.. so maybe they are thinking of doing smth with that flange.
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06/06/2010 05:32 PM
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Anyone know why Poseidon ROV is trying to unbolt a flange on the old riser pipe? At least that's what it looks like to me.


Good question! Maybe the are trying out procedures how to do this unbolting in such deep water.

Reminds me that there is a similar flange at the top of the BOP where that new cap is at the moment.. so maybe they are thinking of doing smth with that flange.
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They keep showing a hole in the old riser. Evidence against TransOcean?
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06/06/2010 06:07 PM
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Re: WHOA!! BP - Footage of new plume from sea floor!!!!
Actually VetcoGray supplied the old riser pipe if you look into the original construction.
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06/06/2010 06:40 PM
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Unbolt it why? strap it and haul it up...Could it be they are going to do the easy thing and unbolt the riser and bolt a better connection to it??? sometimes tech. gets in the way of simple...
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Times Report that US govt may prohibit company from any further contracts or exploration deals in the US as part of punishment for Gulf of Mexico spill.

There are also rumors in the trading rooms that some BP Board members are calling for BP Chairman Svanberg to resign due to mishandling of the rig explosion and aftermath.
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06/06/2010 06:46 PM
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resigning

what a harsh consequence. All that money for retirement and stuff. Must be hard to handle :(
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06/06/2010 07:08 PM
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.
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06/06/2010 07:22 PM
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.
 Quoting: HFD 1 Tuner 992834


So what? Don't further develop other energy sources? Be enslaved? Is that the solution?
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06/06/2010 07:24 PM
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Nothing wrong with the parts human error involved..The rig was not in full production....someone clamped the drill rod and then failed to release clamp and moved the drill and a connecter damaged the seals uncontrolable presure after the seal is gone...They had issue with this pocket of oil and gas before and had to cap a well...Company was drilling at 1 million a day cost to BP and were pressured into getting the job done. Estimate for the well drilling was 21 days had gone 6 weeks...money gets in the way again..
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Re: WHOA!! BP - Footage of new plume from sea floor!!!!
Anyone know why Poseidon ROV is trying to unbolt a flange on the old riser pipe? At least that's what it looks like to me.


Good question! Maybe the are trying out procedures how to do this unbolting in such deep water.

Reminds me that there is a similar flange at the top of the BOP where that new cap is at the moment.. so maybe they are thinking of doing smth with that flange.

They keep showing a hole in the old riser. Evidence against TransOcean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988254

They are taking measurements with a freakin' ruler now.
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06/06/2010 07:27 PM
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The ROV is hitting the riser with a stick lol
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06/06/2010 07:33 PM
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Com'on! Put some torque behind that thing.
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.


So what? Don't further develop other energy sources? Be enslaved? Is that the solution?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938245

We are always going to need oil until new things are developed. More sources of energy is fine but you are going to need trucks dozers and earth movers to build it. Running around in a cloud saying the sun is not going to shine again is not the answer. Unlees we go back to horse and buggy and living off the land we are dependent on oil.The computer you are typing on used a bunch of oil to get in your house... So what can be done? We learn from failure we trust that the goverment is the answer to all problems...the goverment is not...answers come from people the blame game does nothing.
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There's at least two plumes. One is on the fail machine, the other is in a crater with some pipes similar to the dispersant pipes.

I'm thinking when the bop failed, the seabed ruptured. Maybe not because of the bop, but because of the same thing that made the bop fail.... going too deep.

I think the stories of faults in the bop etc are a cover story for making a big fuck up.

A bad workman always blames his tools, as the saying goes.
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So what? Don't further develop other energy sources? Be enslaved? Is that the solution?
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I think what he is talking about is the possibility of the US banning BP from future drilling in US waters and whether that ends up hurting the USA more than it helps.

The U.S. government had an obligation on behalf of all Americans to make sure BP was doing their job -- safety -- planning -- resources. The US government did not do this -- and now they may ban BP to punish them -- ultimately making it more difficult for America to obtain the resources we have and force us to buy from countries that we cannot trust.

Develop other energy resources -- of course. It will still take decades, if ever, for alternate energy sources to make oil obsolete. I would rather have BP safely obtain oil from US sources than buy it from a country who we cannot trust.
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They need more power! Spray some PB Blaster on it!
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This will require a new well drilled and a 250 megaton hydrogen bomb to fuse all the holes shut ....
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The goverment is what made them drill deep!!! We could drill shallow but that would mean People would see a rig outside thier condo in the water....
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So what? Don't further develop other energy sources? Be enslaved? Is that the solution?


I think what he is talking about is the possibility of the US banning BP from future drilling in US waters and whether that ends up hurting the USA more than it helps.

The U.S. government had an obligation on behalf of all Americans to make sure BP was doing their job -- safety -- planning -- resources. The US government did not do this -- and now they may ban BP to punish them -- ultimately making it more difficult for America to obtain the resources we have and force us to buy from countries that we cannot trust.

Develop other energy resources -- of course. It will still take decades, if ever, for alternate energy sources to make oil obsolete. I would rather have BP safely obtain oil from US sources than buy it from a country who we cannot trust.
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Amen!
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right, so now, they are unbolting the flange?
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06/06/2010 07:44 PM
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.
 Quoting: HFD 1 Tuner 992834

sorry to tell you but you can make the same products with the Hemp plant.

So, no, we don't "need" it.
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right, so now, they are unbolting the flange?
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Hope they are charging by the job rather than the hour.
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right, so now, they are unbolting the flange?
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Trying to, anyhow
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There's at least two plumes. One is on the fail machine, the other is in a crater with some pipes similar to the dispersant pipes.

I'm thinking when the bop failed, the seabed ruptured. Maybe not because of the bop, but because of the same thing that made the bop fail.... going too deep.

I think the stories of faults in the bop etc are a cover story for making a big fuck up.

A bad workman always blames his tools, as the saying goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863042


Obviously, something is going on at that location -- but why would they have cameras on this and broadcast it live for all to see if they are trying to cover it up?

It seems to me that they were inspecting the dispersant line to try to figure out why it was not flowing -- come across this crater with at least two broken pipes -- a plume in the background-- and then the video goes dead.

It is as if they were not expecting this -- did not know about it -- and reacted after they realized what was going on.
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.

sorry to tell you but you can make the same products with the Hemp plant.

So, no, we don't "need" it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984975

Hemp! Hemp! Hemp!
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.

sorry to tell you but you can make the same products with the Hemp plant.

So, no, we don't "need" it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984975

How are you going to grow enough? and then harvest and process it? Face it we are a nation inslaved by the product. Your car run on hemp? afro
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.

sorry to tell you but you can make the same products with the Hemp plant.

So, no, we don't "need" it.

How are you going to grow enough? and then harvest and process it? Face it we are a nation inslaved by the product. Your car run on hemp? afro
 Quoting: HFD 1 Tuner 992834

Willie Nelson's does.
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Bad place to have the wrong size socket...
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Like oil or not we use it in everything we as a nation would not survive without it. There would be noting without it. Every machine needs it.All the plastic is made with it.. The power we use needs it...The internet needs it. Tragic spill poor plans for it but we still need oil. Knee jerk reactions are not going to help the fact.

sorry to tell you but you can make the same products with the Hemp plant.So, no, we don't "need" it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984975



ya see back in the 30s the illuminati oil companies convinced the world that weed was bad, and gas/oil was good. and the mess we have now is because the sheep are still deceived and believe what the ilum media tells them...(plus no one has the balls or the abilty to fight them anyway)

they want us to believe we have the greatest country on earth, and lots do, even though the evidence that they might be mistaken is literally slapping them in the face... this false sense of pride in any country is one of the biggest tools the 'ilum' have used in getting the masses to kill each other...

after the pole shift, (or in the case of Noah...the flood)
farming will be a big thing. Noah was big on grapes, I know what I'll be planting...yea baby, c'mon doom...
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They need a British socket!!!

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