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Gulf Oil Spill: It's time to think about the bomb. The Nuclear bomb. Scientists Review Ideas for Seabed Explosive to End Gulf Oil Horror

 
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It's an option worthy of consideration.




Scientists Review Ideas for Seabed Explosive to End Gulf Oil Horror


June 8, 2010 (LPAC)—Marine geologists and other specialists are putting forth evaluations of the physical condition of the out-of-control BP well, features of the underlying seabed, and other factors relevant to potentially using explosives, including the nuclear option, to seal off the flow of oil in the Gulf of Mexico (GoM.)

Lyndon LaRouche reitereated this weekend, that we should be considering the nuclear option, given the possibility that not only the immediate well site, but more broadly, there may be fracturing and leakage in the zone. However, BP is out to preserve its oil lease no matter what, when the answer may have to be foregoing the oil field in order to seal the seabed for security reasons.

President Obama on Monday, held a full-dress White House Cabinet session, to announce continued support for BP and the oil gusher. He said, "We also know that there's already a lot of oil that's been released, and that there's going to be more oil released no matter how successful this containment effort is."

Over the past five days, top Obama officials have made a point of dismissing even considering explosives. "We are against blowing up the Gulf of Mexico," declared Carol Browner to MSNBC last week; she is Obama's energy and climate change czar. Admiral Thad Allen, head of the U.S. Unified Command, on the eve of Obama's June 4 trip to Louisiana, said that considerations of explosives are "peripheral to things we ought to be talking about right now." Translated, this means peripheral to what BP wants to do.

BP is continuing its various pretenses of coping with the "spill", while positioning to continue its claims over American oil and its right to wreak devastation. A larger production platform is now on its way from the North Sea, headed to the GoM, for BP to process the maximum amount of oil it can collect from the disastrous well, while vast oil leaks continue.

Who can tell what the flow is right now, given the cover-up by BP and Obama. The Administration announced on Monday that they will henceforth provide the official estimates, not BP. Adm. Allen said that BP is capturing 11,000 barrels per day from its containment dome over the well (up from 1000, then 6000 bpd over the first three days, after the cap was placed on). But at the same time, at least an equivalent amount is leaking, and it is likely many times larger than 11,000 bpd.

Some nuclear and marine specialists are adamant that explosives could and should have been used already. "We should have demolished this well with explosives over a month ago," wrote Christopher Brown, a Columbia University nuclear expert, and former nuclear submarine officer. He said last week in the Daily Beast, "And yet we watch in excruciating suspense while BP fumbles through plan after plan to recover its oil and cover its asset...it would be far better for our president to pick up the red phone and call Vladimir Putin for a lesson on ninjapolitik than to leave BP in charge of the ineffectual plans that it's bringing to the table..."

Whatever the merits or demerits of various kinds of explosives, analysis and precision are crucial, which take lead time. This is exactly what the Obama/BP collusion operation is acting to prevent.

- Physical Considerations—the Seabed -

Among the considerations, for example, are the characteristics of the seabed. The Deepwater Horizon drilling platform was on the BP lease in the Mississippi Canyon, in the north-central part of the Gulf of Mexico. This submarine trough has a length of about 120 km, and an average width of 8 km. A certain amount is known about this region, from a two-year program begun in 1980, utilizing a dense grid of high-resolution seismic and side-scan sonar mapping, along with deep borings, to get C-14 datings, in order to compose a time sequence for its stratigraphy and origins. Maps have been constructed to depict the various time periods, and presumed modes of origin of features of this formation. Involved in its history, are river and delta deposits from the Mississippi River, far back in time. But also, massive slumping off the edge of the continental shelf, that formed the trough.

Relatively large deposits of oil are found trapped between a salt canopy on top and sandstone or Miocene rock formations. The deepwater GoM deposits are world class oil finds, but the deapsea pressures and conditions, and frequency of severe storms are also world class factors. The latter were ignored by BP.

One engineer with long experience in offshore work, pointed out that new wells in this region can show high—in fact, record—flow rates, now exceeding 17,000 barrels a day. BP has reported that its Thunder Horse platform had wells delivering over 50,000 bpd. He warns that this constitutes a whole new realm of technical challenges which may be far beyond what can be economically achieved in a safe environment.

There are also mundane factors, such as the fact that there are reportedly in the range of 31,000 miles of underwater oil pipe in the Gulf of Mexico. BP's record of non-maintenance, makes much of this network an automatic hazard.

The BP well now out of control, is located in a lease in the Mississippi Canyon about 41 miles south of Louisiana. The well was put down through 5,000 feet of water, and then down 13,000 feet into the bedrock. There are deeper wells in the Gulf, but Deepwater Horizon, under BP's criminally negligent control, was deep enough for catastrophe.

Knowledgeable sources think that it's very possible there are cracks and fractures in the seabed of the Deepwater Horizon well explosion. In this immediate region, there is a layer of about 1,200 feet of compressed mud from a million years of outflow of the Mississippi River, lying on the bottom. The drilling may have hit a methane hydrate formation in this well, which caused an overpressure of 20,000 psi or so. The Blowout Protector (BOP) is built to handle 15,000. So it just blew everything. It could easily have fractured casing on the well, and worked through fractures in the rocks. This must be evaluated. Also, there is more confirmation of undersea plumes, and it is possible that they are coming from more than one location.

Apart from specific design specifications for differing kinds of explosives, experts make clear that there will be no escaping radiation and no fracturing of the oil reservoir at the surface, if detonations are in Miocene rock or way down into sandstone.

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20,000 psi or so

wow- just wow
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It's time to use the bomb.



THE NUCLEAR OPTION AGAINST BRITISH SABOTAGE IN OUR GULF

by Laurence Hecht

June 13—It appears increasingly likely that recourse to use of a peaceful nuclear explosive (PNE), may become the only available option to seal the damaged BP well in the Gulf of Mexico, 41 miles off our coast.

Such a measure can be carried out with virtually zero danger of radioactive release, according to experts, including Milo Nordyke, a former chief scientist on the U.S. Operation Plowshare program for peaceful use of nuclear explosives.

A 10- to 15-kiloton nuclear device would be placed within 20 to 30 feet of the well bore, at a depth below 6,000 feet, where no danger of wave formation from deformation of the sea floor could occur. The explosion would produce a shock wave that would push rock horizontally against the well bore, sealing it shut. That would close the hole, well below the probable cracks that may exist in the upper 1,200-foot layer of mud and soft rock. In a worst-case scenario in which the well failed to seal, the minimal amount of radioactive material that might escape up the well would be so diluted upon mixing with seawater as to render it harmless. Smaller nuclear devices, carried by projectiles of a classified nature which could be injected directly down the well bore, are also possible.

Whether or not it becomes necessary to use such a device, it is urgent that preparations be made now for such an eventuality. There is growing evidence that the well is releasing oil at a rate of 90,000 barrels per day or greater, while the likelihood of success of the relief wells has been called into question. Stratigraphic studies, design and building of the device, and preparations for deployment all take time, time which has been lost by the Administration policy of denial. Expertise in these matters resides among specialists at the Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos national laboratories.

Such a program can be carried out only under U.S. government authority. The urgent need for preparing the nuclear option thus provides one more reason why BP must be expropriated under national security emergency measures, its records seized, and its top executives jailed and held for trial on crimes including the criminally negligent homicide in the death of 11 oil rig workers. That will require the removal of the British tool presently occupying the master bedroom at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

A greater challenge might arise, if BP actually drilled to 30,000 feet, or below, and is tapping into a deep formation at very high pressures (see below)—another reason why we must take over, and gain control of the situation.

- The Other Nuclear -

Apart from such immediately required measures, the unfolding crisis in the Gulf brings to the fore a more far-reaching, yet most urgent necessity.

The underlying cause of the Gulf Oil Crisis has been our failure to go nuclear. Supporting the present world population of 6.8 billion persons at a decently human living standard cannot be accomplished with the present mix of energy and raw-material-extraction technologies.

The widespread introduction of high energy-flux-density power sources, starting now with nuclear power, and moving on to controlled thermonuclear fusion, and later, to matter-antimatter reactions, is essential to ensuring our future survival.

For now, nuclear power is the key to replacing our present dependence upon fossil-based fuels. The energy contained in 1.86 grams (0.07 ounces) of processed uranium is equal to 1,260 gallons of petroleum and 6.15 tons of coal. Comparing these ratios of energy output, per weight of fuel, provides an approximate sort of measure for the concept of energy flux-density. By such measure, the advantage of nuclear comes to 2.16 million to 1, as compared to oil, and 2.98 million to 1, as compared to coal. Mastery of the thermonuclear fusion reaction will allow us to raise those ratios by several orders of magnitude, and make manned interplanetary space flight a reality for coming generations.

The temperature and energy flux-density of the nuclear fission reaction permits the production of cheap electrical power, and of industrial process heat needed for processing ore and the desalination of seawater.

Nuclear power can also replace fossil fuels in transportation, eliminating completely the dependence upon imported oil and deep offshore drilling. The temperature and high energy-flux of a nuclear reaction permits us to economically separate water into its constituent atoms. The hydrogen so produced can be burned as a fuel, either directly, or by recombination in fuel cells. Synthetic hydrocarbon fuels and various types of hydrogen carriers, such as ammonia, may also be produced to supply specialized needs for liquid fuels. The abundant electricity produced by nuclear power will supply battery-powered vehicles, and more importantly, provide the power to a nationwide grid of magnetically levitated high-speed rail.

To bring the present world population up to acceptable standards of living will require the production of at least 6,000 new nuclear power plants within the next generation. Wind and solar energy installations not only cannot meet that need, but cost more, in actual physical economic measure, than they contribute to an economy.

A more precise definition of energy flux-density is transformative power. Beyond the already cited advantages, a nuclear reaction produces a change in the structure of the atomic nucleus such as will never occur in a windmill, solar cell, or oil-, gas-, or coal-fired power plant. The next phase of our economic development, the isotope economy, will involve the production of new materials, including those of varied isotopic composition, for use in industry, agriculture, medicine, and space colonization. We will get a start on this through our gear-up for mass serial production of nuclear plants, including new design types, such as the high-temperature gas-cooled reactors, integral fast-flux reactors which breed more new fuel than they consume, and similar proven designs. With the development of thermonuclear fusion reactors, other capabilities become possible. Mastery of the low-energy nuclear reactions ("cold fusion") will also contribute to the isotope economy, adding new dimensions to our understanding of nuclear transmutations.

The intentional suppression of that just-described economic future has been the central feature of British imperial policy over at least the past half century. The specifically stated intention of leading British figures, including Prince Philip, the late Lord Bertrand Russell, and former H.G. Wells collaborator Julian Huxley, has been to carry out a drastic reduction in human population, to fewer than 2 billion persons.

- What Caused the Blowout? -

Lacking nuclear power, the push to ever deeper drilling for oil and gas resources was inevitable. Whether the blowout of the Macondo well was due to the greed and utter incompetence of BP officials, or, as also appears possible, it was a willful act of sabotage, such an event was, in any case, inevitable, sooner or later.

It may be that the blown-out BP well is not at the 18,000-foot depth cited in the company's public relations efforts, but at 30,000 feet, or that other deep wells in the vicinity have tapped into formations, known as oil migration channels, at this depth. There is evidence that the theory of Russian geologist Vladimir Kutcherov, according to which oil is continuously formed deep within the Earth's crust, at depths of 30,000 feet or greater, may have been secretly adopted by the oil cartel, at the same time that the theory was publicly discredited and dismissed.

Under this theory, drilling on the cracks between continental plates, or in such formations as are found in much of the Gulf of Mexico, would tap into these rich reserves. Soviet oil and gas production may have already exploited such deep faults, possibly below 30,000 feet. Kutcherov, in collaboration with scientists from the Russian of Academy of Sciences, experimentally demonstrated the production of methane, and heavier hydrocarbons of the alkane series, from a mixture of calcium carbonate, iron oxide, and water, maintained at extremely high pressures and temperatures, such as are found deep within the Earth. The origin of deep oil would thus be abiogenic, confirming the earlier hypotheses of Alexander von Humboldt, Dmitri Mendeleyev, and Marcelin Berthelot. The biological signature found in oil is a result of dissolved organic matter in the abiogenic petroleum, according to the Russian-Ukrainian theory. The action of deep-dwelling life forms upon the already produced hydrocarbons may also play a part.

The Soviet use of peaceful nuclear explosives for oil and gas exploration may have been operating on this view. This was the same program which pioneered the technique for sealing runaway gas-well fires, using small nuclear charges placed in slant wells which intersected the runaway well several thousand feet down. That program was successful in all its attempts, closing five wells and reducing pressure in a sixth, according to a report, published in 2000, by Milo Nordyke of Lawrence Livermore Laboratory.

There is some indication that advanced thermal imaging techniques, using satellites, may have been carried out by U.S. government agencies, beginning in the 1980s, in an attempt to map these formations in the Gulf. It is possible that BP obtained access to that classified data for use in its Gulf exploration campaign.

There is also indication that BP is presenting the public a Hollywood-like scenario of its operations on the sea floor. Engineering experts point out that the Cameron Blowout Preventer, the five-story tower which sits, or once sat, on the sea floor at the well outlet, was designed for a maximum pressure of 15,000 pounsd per square inch (psi), while the explosion appears to trained observers to have produced pressures in excess of 30,000 psi. In that case, the blowout preventer would have been damaged beyond functionality. The device we see in the live video streams may be a second blowout preventer, which is getting its oil by piping from the main well, or a nearby production facility. The main well may be completely open, according to some industry insiders.

Thus the Macondo blowout may be the result of having struck into extremely high-pressure migration channels of deep oil. Or, there may be an element of willful sabotage in creating the disaster, directed by British interests against the United States. In either case, the time for expropriation, and preparation of the nuclear option, is now.

The author is the Editor of 21st Century Science & Technology. He can be reached at hecht3@verizon.net.
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Farting ki Farting ki Farting ki Farting ki

METHANE GAS IS FART GAS -- BP smells full of shit because the Earth is farting into BP's gas pipes.



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I hate to think about it but the way things are I think that detonation in order to fuse the seabed may be the eventual outcome. From what I’m reading from various sources and the good people here on GLP is that this reservoir is a monster in every way imaginable and it seems that the whole thing is going to break loose.
We must start to face up to the fact, pretty soon that we have no alternative other than attempt to fuse it or collapse it in on itself with explosives due to the vast quantities continually leaking out of the well hole and the cracked/porous seabed. This monster field is why BP et al went after it in the first place, it is a huge source of untapped riches. Pity they never had the equipment, technology, personnel, procedures, patience and wherewithal to formulate the project correctly, just went in feet first which is just so typical of BP (and most if not all O&G exploration companies might I add), and with that side mouthed smirk of a gobshite Hayward at the helm…. words simply fail me.
That aside, we’re all in the proverbial now and we need to make a decision very soon on whether to blow this fecker up and hope it fuses or causes crustal movements to close the leaks off or allow the leaks to piss everything into the ocean until we can come up with another way that will have as much chance of working. I wouldn’t trust a word out of BPs mouth so this whole situation needs to be taken out of their control ASAP too. I wouldn’t go nuclear if I could use a MOAB or some other big bomb though for obvious reasons. If not then nuclear is the only option. I do feel though that detonation is the worst of worse case scenarios and that it’s really a wild guess as to what could happen. What a world eh?
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Please see my thread I just started this morning, regarding the Oil Spill and the seafloor connection with the ancient Chixulub Asteroid Impact Event. I think the 'nuclear option' will be the WORST OPTION OF ALL! I believe if we nuke this leak, to permanently seal it, it won't seal it! It'll be the spark needed, the power needed, to further rip open the sea floor, and unleash unimagined fury, the biggest disaster and explosion in the HISTORY OF MANKIND!!! The nuking will facilitate other chain-reaction events that will set them off, in quick succession. NUKING SHOULDN'T BE AN OPTION!

If I were the President, I would IMMEDIATELY ORDER the MASS EVACUATION OF THE ENTIRE GULF COAST, FOR ABOUT 200 MILES INLAND (AT LEAST), and send those people NORTH and away from the impending E.L.E. I would not even consider the economy, because it is already toast. It's just delaying the inevitable. Send those people North, IMMEDIATELY! Don't worry about money, or State economies, think of PROTECTING THE LIFE OF EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN as the #1 TOP GOAL!!!

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA--WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE INITIATE THE MASS EVACUATION ORDER NOW!! GET OUR PEOPLE OUT OF THE DANGER ZONE NOW!! YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT!! CARE FOR THE PEOPLE AND PROTECT THEM! THAT IS YOUR JOB, SO PLEASE JUST DO IT NOW!! IF NOT, THIS IS ON YOUR CONSCIENCE, SHOULD THE GULF EXPLODE AND KILL UNTOLD MILLIONS! I KNOW THAT THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW. I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE YOU, AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. BUT PLEASE, MR. PRESIDENT, THINK OF OUR PEOPLE AND WHAT IS COMING. GET THEM OUT OF DANGER AND INTO SAFETY! PLEASE!
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No, I'm not French, I'm American. I'm using an anonymous proxy, because I got caught up in a ban, though I didn't do anything wrong. Just trying to offer my common sense thought on things. I will check this thread and my other one, throughout the day, and comment, as needed.
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it's a lethal idea. but they will do it. they are acclimating the public for it, this is proof of that to me.
they have been slow boiling the frog all along.
expect this soon, they will begin to mainstream this now..

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