WE LIVE INSIDE A HOLLOW SPHERE, THAT CONTAINS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996387 06/08/2010 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996689 06/08/2010 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996248 06/08/2010 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 996709 06/08/2010 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turning the Universe Inside-Out Teed's universe occupies a "Hollow cell" in solid rock, 8000 miles in diameter. We live and walk on the spherical inner surface of this cell, our heads pointing toward its center. The entire universe that we "see in the sky" lies within this cell, cradled "in the hands of God." Inside this Earth-shell there are three atmosphere shells: air, hydrogen, and aboron. At the center is the sun, an invisible electro-magnetic battery in the form of a helix, rotating on a 24 hour cycle. It also has a precessional movement of 24,000 years, accounting for the precession of the equinoxes. (Teed certainly tries to make this a model capable of explaining everything.) With the sun at the center, it is one of the few cosmological models that is both heliocentric and geocentric! [The other is the Gillespian theory.] Light travels in curved paths. We do not see the sun directly; its rays bend by refraction and "focalize" twice. We see the second focalization at the top of our atmosphere. In this universe, light rays take curved paths to reach the Earth. Such paths are clearly required to agree with the observed apparent differences in position of the sun in the sky at different places on Earth. The sun is half dark, half light, and its rotation gives the illusion of sunrises and sunsets, night and day and seasonal variations in the apparent position of the sun. The back, or "dark" side, of the sun emits light from many points at which energy is generated. These focalize and are seen as the stars. Due to turbulence and aberrations in the atmospheres the focalizations of light are sometimes imperfect or blurred. These appear as nebulae. Comets are reflections of the sun's rays through lenticular reflections and refractions from belts of tiny crystals around the central solar sphere. The sun is like a huge eye, with an iris. The iris is visible only when the atmosphere has refractive prismatic influences. Then we see the sun's iris as a rainbow. Planets and moon are illusions. Describing this model is made difficult because words such as "inner" and "outer", and "under" and "above" have meanings opposite to what we are used to. The planets are disks floating between the metallic layers of the Earth's crust (in the rock shell that we walk upon). This part of the Earth shell is only 100 miles thick and has 17 layers. The outermost (greatest radius) 7 shells are metallic, the gold layer having the greatest radius. The next 5 are mineral. The next five are geologic strata. Teed's background in alchemy certainly influenced this part of his model. The moon, planets, and stars that we think we see in the sky are illusions within the hollow cell within the rock shell. We can't see to the other side of the hollow Earth's surface, because of the intervening dense atmospheres Gravic rays emanate outward from the sun, holding us onto the Earth crust and accounting for effects heretofore attributed to gravity. (Take that, Newton!) Levic rays, something like X rays, are produced when Gravic rays reflect from the metallic mirror-like planet disks. Levic rays project toward the center, onto the hydrogen sphere, and unite with gravic rays to produce light. This light travels outward, focalizing several times, forming a final focalization at the top of our atmoshpere that is a virtual image, which we see as the planet. But it is only an illusion. Gravic and Levic rays apparently don't refract much, but light refracts a lot in Teed's cosmology. The moon is also a focalization of this kind, but it is an image of the entire Earth's crust. The features we see on the moon are something like an X-ray of all the geologic strata in the crust of the Earth. Quantum mechanics is much simpler to explain! Much of the detail of Teed's explanations of his model seems motivated by critics, who insisted he account for the daily, seasonal and long-term variations of the position of the sun. Much less attention was paid to other questions not asked. For example, if the stars are focalizations of sunlight formed in the gaseous atmosphers, then why are the star's apparent positions so stable with respect to each other? They are so stable that we can describe their pattens as constellations and make maps of them. Yet the sun's position with respect to the stars changes by large amounts throughout the year. We see in Teed's Cosmogony a melding of many ideas of earlier origin. His universe had an Earth shell with sun inside, and we live on the inside of this shell. This is much like Euler's hollow Earth idea. The extreme curvature or refraction of light is much like that assumed by the flat-Earthers, and served the same purpose: to make astronomical observations fit the model. Such a model of the universe would seem to be so bizarre that it could only have arisen once. But apprently others claimed to have had similar revelations. Consider the 1882 pamphlet by G. L. Burnside, titled Extraordinary Revelations. Burnside (a spiritualist medium) had a revelation, during a seance in 1856, of the true geometry of the Earth and the universe. It is a universe in which the Earth has shells within, some possibly inhabited. The Earth is surrounded by a hollow shell of rock, but the planets, sun and stars are all illusory images moving on this shell surface, like lantern-slide projections on a screen. Burnside mentions that J. Thomas of England promoted a similar model. This is rare. Proponents of such eccentric views seldom credited others. And in 1871 a book appeared by Prof. Wm. F. Lyon titled The Hollow Globe; or The World's Agitator and Reconciler. It describes scientific information given to him over several months in 1868 from M. L. Sherman, who was in turn getting it from the spirit world in bits and pieces. So who was first with this eccentric idea? Burnside says he got the idea in a seance in 1856, though his book appeared in 1882. He acknowledges that J. Thomas had similar ideas earlier. Lyon's indirect communication with the spirit world was in 1868. Teed says his "illumination" came from the female half of the Godhead, the "Divine Motherhood" in 1869. Who knows what earlier roots this idea had that we simply haven't sumbled upon yet? We see in these models elements similar to those of Teed's model, but Teed's inside-out inversion of the Earth and cosmos was probably the most fully developed (though nearly incomprehensible) version. Earlier hollow Earth models of Halley and Symmes had the possibility of people walking inside the Earth shell, with sources of light and heat also inside. Teed put us inside, along with the sun, moon, planets, and everything else in the universe. [link to www.lhup.edu] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 981208 06/08/2010 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 793980 06/08/2010 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 996709 06/08/2010 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about we substitute a sphere for God. There is more evidence to many of us on this planet that there is a divine intelligence than a dead inanimate object. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981208Just imagine what this place really is, when we turn the universe inside-out... We live not on a lonely, small and unsignificant rock floating across an empty space, but we live in a very marvellous and special place, which is EVERYTHING! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 793980 06/08/2010 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know the theory states that the planets are illusions but what about the pictures the Mars rover took? I can understand this theory and for all I know it may even be true or partially true, but I also believe we really went to Mars and took those pictures. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 996709 06/08/2010 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TPTB want us to believe that we are unimportant and unsignificant in comparisson to the infinite expanding universe. they want us to feel lonely and separated. is it a "pale blue dot", quoting carl sagan or is it something else? something completely opposite??? this theory is a deep psychological and spiritual idea, which gives us an understanding of who we are and why we´re here... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 793980 06/08/2010 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TPTB want us to believe that we are unimportant and unsignificant in comparisson to the infinite expanding universe. they want us to feel lonely and separated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 996709is it a "pale blue dot", quoting carl sagan or is it something else? something completely opposite??? this theory is a deep psychological and spiritual idea, which gives us an understanding of who we are and why we´re here... It is a beautiful theory. I am just one of those people who wants to go and look at our amazing sphere from "out there" or "in there" to see what it really looks like.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996248 06/08/2010 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996755 06/08/2010 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TPTB want us to believe that we are unimportant and unsignificant in comparisson to the infinite expanding universe. they want us to feel lonely and separated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 996709is it a "pale blue dot", quoting carl sagan or is it something else? something completely opposite??? this theory is a deep psychological and spiritual idea, which gives us an understanding of who we are and why we´re here... Yep, I've been on this track myself. Of course, that one toke of DMT I did a couple of years ago convinced me it was more than just a theory. Fits in nicely with Fintan Dunne's concepts of the mirror universe as described on Treeincarnation.com, too. As above, so below, ya know. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 996709 06/08/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE NEW WORLD CONCEPT is a biological view of the world. Heaven and earth are a giant-cell-organism. Results of research in all areas of science prove the reality of the inside world. All the ancient, educated nations handed down this natural concept of the cosmos. It was known as the heaven and earth of the Bible with the celestial sphere high up in the center of the world. It was also known as the world-egg of the Brahmans, as well as the idea of the world, which the old Nordic nations believed. In the center of the world is found the celestial sphere (hollow) and inside of it, the (spiritual) intellectual core of the universe. The firm, strong shell of the celestial globe envelopes valuable organs. The nucleus of a cell is a miniature picture of it. For all men this heavenly firmament is high above, upwards and to this spiritual center of God the believers direct their prayers. The celestial sphere is so to speak the head of the world. On the outside shine the fixed stars. They are radiating points of light on the surface of the firm celestial shell. Around the celestial sphere wander the planets. They are, with respect to the celestial globe, small hollow spheres, but also live, giant cells, which carry an organic content slowly to the earth in a spiral and by a long lasting maturing process. The dotted line around the celestial sphere represents the zodiac which is also the path of the sun. In the electromagnetic field of the inside world the zodiac is a physical reality, the energy of which is radiated to the earth partly as light and heat through the resonating body of the sun (the sun is a hollow sphere with contents). The curved white lines indicate the propagating path of light. Light is an electromagnetic oscillation and follows the laws of the electromagnetic field in its propagation. This results in day and night and shows in the picture as the dark and bright half of the earth. The sun is shown (see the starting point of the radiation) at the tropic of cancer and radiates at close distance the northern hemisphere of the inside (concave) world. Therefore at this place there is summer and the polar regions have 24 hours of sunlight. At the same time there is winter night at the south pole. The inside surface of this cosmic, giant hollow sphere is our earth surface on which people, animals and plants live. The diameter of the concave world amounts to 12 750 km (8 000 mi.) and the circumference is 40 000 km (25 000 mi.). What is outside of this our world nobody can say with certainty. Here are a few conjectures. According to the behavior of earthquake waves it is to be assumed that the earth's shell is about 50-150 km (30-95 mi.) thick. What lies beyond this is only known to the Creator of this world. It is to be supposed that outside our sphere of life there is a condition not to be tolerated by living beings. Life is always on the inside. From the inside come the powers of life and growth. By a logical conclusion everything that is hostile to life must be on the outside and matter must be dissolved into basic substances. The energy thus liberated is again absorbed by the concave world and utilized for the construction of matter and organic things. In accordance with this, all religions teach that beneath our feet is the underworld, darkness and absence of God. Do you want to know why this biological concept of the world is not joyously received as new knowledge? It does not only agree with the faith of each of the great religions, but is also scientifically founded and exactly defined. We ask in return, whether ever in human history any basic knowledge and innovations have been accepted immediately? You know the answer yourself. Any truth does not exist for man as long as he has not recognized it. How about you? Are you ready to take the trouble to check the new facts and truths and acknowledge them? It depends on you, on each responsible, individual person, man or woman, whether a good idea will find recognition and promotion. It is not the task of science to spread new ideas but only to teach that which is proven and improve it. To answer the question whether the earth is a concave (hollow) sphere or a convex (solid) ball, the surface of the earth was tested for its sense of curvature, and it was found that the earth is a hollow sphere on the inside of which we live. In this connection it had to be checked whether a light beam is really mathematically straight or whether it is a curved line. The measurements showed that there is no straight light beam. That in spite of all this, men were able to use the world model of modern astronomy and calculate the correct path to the moon and to the planets proves that it is a functioning mathematical model which correctly describes the cosmic reality using mathematical tools. Vision or seeing is a perception of the senses and actually the most important one for man in order to orient himself and for recognition. You should observe a baby in order to understand how difficult it is at first to literally understand what is being seen. Great difficulties even remain for an adult in judging what he sees in the distance, in the height and in the depth. Only experience can teach you. Can a reasonable person assume he understands (perceives and recognizes) if he sees a photo of earth from a distance of 200 - 300 km (125 - 180 mi.) altitude or even a photo of the earth taken from the moon? Optical phenomena, such as the horizon, or a photograph of the disk of the earth from the moon, need a scientific interpretation from an expert in the field of optics. The physicist, W. Braun, has shown in a scientific paper on the subject of seeing in space, using the laws of optics, how the phenomenon of a "photograph of the earth ball" originates, and how this is interpreted when we know about the hollow sphere nature of earth. No scientist of renown has yet maintained, that the full shape of a sphere of the earth has been proven by a photograph from space or by using the phenomenon of the horizon. Professor Roman Sexl, from the Institute of Physics of the University of Vienna, Austria, has confirmed that it is mathematically impossible to disprove the statements of the physicist W. Braun. [link to geocosmos.tripod.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 941862 06/08/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know i was wondering about this. A few years ago we went on family vacation and we were driving west and then all the sudden we hit a clear invisible wall. I hit the edge of the sphere!!! I had to turn around and go a different direction. I called Rand/McNally and told them to put the edge on their maps. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996782 06/08/2010 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a beautiful theory. I am just one of those people who wants to go and look at our amazing sphere from "out there" or "in there" to see what it really looks like.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793980yes my friend, this theory is indeed beautiful! but you don´t need to see it so very close, just imagine it while looking up into the sky! just try to see this whole concept of the inside-out universe and try to imagine it as good as you can, how wonderfull this creation is! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996782 06/08/2010 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| nomind User ID: 904314 06/08/2010 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Curious theory, but I prefer the recent one where we are literally living inside of a blackhole, and that the 'big bang' is basically material leaking into a "new universe" from the intense compression in said blackhole. Sort of like as if a blackhole was a ginormous wormhole into another universe, what? Last Edited by nomind on 06/08/2010 12:05 PM My Interesting Karma messages: - "You are an idiot. This post proves it." -"GLP MEMBERS BEWARE!!! THIS IS A GOVERNMENT SHILL." - Most moranic one given to me: When you type ".." you need to put three dots instead of two. Thread: Nibiru, or how to appear like you know what you are talking about |
| tkwasny User ID: 996759 06/08/2010 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "sphere" is the infinite expanse in kinetics in two directions. Expanding further and imploding down and inward. The kinetics of down and inward is the current of time. It floods down and inward spherically toward the infinitely kinetic, infinitesimal singularity. Time current (infinite in composition) converts to all of infinite space (infinite in composition) for an infinitesimal duration instance we recognize as "the present". The present is the instance when all of time current is no longer purely kinetic, and it becomes purely static. Then because of inertia, the spherical "vacuum" of the singularity AND the "pressure" from the expanse, infinite space collapses once again into a purely kinetic state to become all the past time. The "pressure" time current is all the future out from the infinite expanse. The "vacuum" time current is all the past down and inward to the infinitely kinetic, infinitesimal singularity. The singularity provides the spatial dimension of DEPTH. The infinite kinetics of the singularity creates the other 2 spatial dimemsions. Where the singularity IS in it's "flight path" creates the infinite expanse and the spatial dimension of HEIGHT. Where the singularity IS NOT in it's "flight path", yet provides a persistence wake, this wake is the spatial dimension of WIDTH. There was no "Big Bang" There is only the constant Roar of time current purely kinetic changing into all space, purely static, then back again into purely kinetic time current. Infinite future, to infinitesimal present, to infinite past. Time, to space, back to time. Last Edited by tkwasny on 06/08/2010 12:12 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996782 06/08/2010 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We deem it important to simply announce the broad statement that all life develops in a shell, egg, or womb, and that the law of development in the greater or macrocosmic order does not depart from the universal law. All natural life develops and matures (to the point of its liberation from environment) in the egg or womb. The earth, therefore, is the great womb of natural development, hence we are living in a shell. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996916 06/08/2010 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Telescopes more or less Imperfect at Best; Likewise the Lens of Every Human Eye NO ASTRONOMER pretends to believe that a telescope can be made which does not embrace more or less of the uncertainty of astigmatism. No optician lives who does not know that the lens of every human eye has more or less the uncertainty of astigmatism; how, then, can an observation be made, involving the immense distances pretended to obtain by the men who believe in the Copernican system of astronomy? If correct calculations are made of relative locations of stars in view of these uncertainties, what comprise the factors of certainty? This may be answered, first, by the statement that the stars are within our atmosphere instead of beyond, therefore the factor of refraction does not enter into the problem; second, the base line is concave instead of convex; and the lines upon which the relative location of the star is made, in the determination of parallaxes, are convergent toward the object which is observed within the atmosphere, and at a short distance from the point of observation. We were asked the question: "If the experimental operations of the geodesists should not prove the Cellular Cosmogony, would that invalidate your claims regarding other parts of your System?" We replied: "Our system of theology, sociology, and government is founded upon the fact of the concavity of the earth. We are as positive regarding the truth of the inside theory now, as we shall be after all the corroborations of the Geodetic work." The importance of the Geodetic operations resides in the fact that we shall have in hand the results of practical mechanics applied to the earth's contour, so that no man can refute or gainsay them. A direct line extended at right angles from a perpendicular post strikes the earth. This we have demonstrated absolutely. That the earth is concave, there is not the shadow of a doubt. It destroys the last ray of hope entertained by the scientists who, upon the basis of the Copernican system, either deny God, or what is worse, say they do not know whether there be a God or not. In extending the air line we have proven, by simple mechanical application, the concave theory. We have found the ratio of curvation to be about eight inches to the mile. This is the first time in the history of the world (so far as known) that a like or corresponding measurement has been taken for the determination of the contour of the earth. We are enabled to assert positively the undeniable fact of the Cellular Cosmogony, for which we have contended many years. We place positive demonstration against assumption. We know what we are talking about. We know that the so called scientists know that what they are presenting to the world is merely pretense, for not a scientist living pretends to claim that the premise of the Copernican system is anything more than conjecture, an unproven hypothesis. From "The Cellular Cosmogony" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 992361 06/08/2010 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Curious theory, but I prefer the recent one where we are literally living inside of a blackhole, and that the 'big bang' is basically material leaking into a "new universe" from the intense compression in said blackhole. Quoting: nomindSort of like as if a blackhole was a ginormous wormhole into another universe, what? my word old bean, i think you have it! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 977251 06/08/2010 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 665901 06/08/2010 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996916 06/08/2010 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it not peculiar that... 1. Every known form of energy decays, even light, namely with the square of the distance, and yet light rays of stars are still reaching us from billions of light years away. 2. Everything is subject to lines of force, (which are curved as is well known), but only light supposedly travels in a perfectly straight line. 3. According to French experiments (Prof. Allais), after 8 m distance it is no longer useful and geodesists (surveyors of the earth) have to use correction factors. 4. That night is never truly dark. 5. Even though light is supposed to travel straight, a glowing mountain can be seen even after the sun has long since set. 6. That the poles of the earth at the great distance of 150 million km from the sun do not receive equal amounts of heat, though the difference of that distance is only 6000 km. 7. That we have winter even though the sun is supposed to be 5 million km closer on December 12. 8. In all the seasons we do not have the same temperatures, if the sun is a glowing ball of heat. 9. All planets move from East to West, only the earth turns from West to East which is in the opposite direction to all other paths of the planets. 10. In a centrifuge all heavy materials collect on the outside (away from the center) only the lighter ones are near the center, yet only the rotating earth reverses the whole process. 11. The earth never cools off completely, although it is travelling in icecold (-273° C) space with a supposed velocity of 800 km/s around the sun. 12. That with this enormous speed in space, high and lows can form in the atmosphere, and everywhere a layer of air with the same altitude can remain. And all this is in addition to the earth's own revolution of 30 km/s. 13. That on a rotating sphere, the heavy land masses are found in the upper half and the lighter water mass on the lower half, instead of a collection of the landmasses near the equator. 14. That in the vacuum of space earth does not lose its air. 15. A vacuum conducts neither rays, nor light, nor heat nor gravity, but this is not valid for the sun and its planets. 16. Earth performs a revolution against its path around the sun. 17. That fixed stars do not show a parallax (moving from their postion) while the earth races around the sun 1.2 billion km per year. 18. That at a solar eclipse, when the sun is 150 million km distant, the shape of the eclipse is different at various places on the earth. 19. That fixed stars never move although they are found in a moving, expanding universe. 20. That we never see the back of the sun, although we are moving around it, while the low and high tides happen at exactly the opposite sides of the earth. 21. That Icelanders at certain times can see Greenland. 22. That one can see the Alps from the Arber and one can see Africa from Sicily. 23. That two plumb lines hanging in a deep mine diverge at the bottom instead of converge. 24. That the velocity of the earth was already measured in 1906 by two American university professors and in 1930 by the Zeiss-Works in JENA, and that each time the value zero was found. 25. That already in 1898 the direction of surface curvature of the earth was scientifically determined and measured without official science making any use of this (rectilineator). 26. That television amateurs in England and Holland received programs from Moscow, Peking, and Australia and those in Austria received programs form the USA and South America. 27. That in radio transmission, a second directional theory can be used which brings even better results. 28. That dust clouds caused by the landing of a satellite or space probe on the moon was 100 times larger than expected. 29. That you can not see any stars from the moon. 30. That the altitudes of mountains on the moon were not correct at all but showed values 100 times smaller. 31. That it is not possible to obtain scientific measurement data about the shape and size of the moon. 32. That on satellite flights, the horizon is always at eye level, according to a statement made by a former astronaut to his colleague in trouble. 33. That at the time when Stoltenberg was Minister of Research (Germany) and was visited by the astronaut Borman in Bonn, he said they had seen photos of the earth from which one could assume that the earth was a ball. 34. That based on satellite flights, one calculated a pear shaped earth while press photos showed a solid ball taken on a flight to the moon. 35. That a news agency reworked the space photos to show a solid earth. 36. That at an altitude of 200 km, one could photograph the solid earth, when the diameter of the earth was more than 12 000 km. 37. That with infrared photography one could see the shore of a 24 km long lake although one should only be able to see the roof of a boathouse. 38. That the magnetic field of the earth is supposed to be caused by an iron core at the center of the earth, although it is known that iron becomes unmagnetic at the Curie point at 750° C . 39. That Copernicus was a Lord of a Cathedral and not an astronomer, and he definitely stated that his world view was a theory. 40. That in mathematics for calculations of unknown magnitudes, one designs mathematical models which can often lead to rather useful solutions but do not always agree with the actual reality. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 987483 06/08/2010 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996916 06/08/2010 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we living on a convex sphere, like science teaches us or are we living on the inside of a concave sphere? What does science tell us and what does the Bible tell us? Is God the center of his creation or should we place him somewhere outside, at the borders of the universe? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 996916 06/08/2010 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 872557 06/08/2010 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 997048 06/08/2010 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 992361 06/08/2010 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we living on a convex sphere, like science teaches us or are we living on the inside of a concave sphere? What does science tell us and what does the Bible tell us? Is God the center of his creation or should we place him somewhere outside, at the borders of the universe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 996916no, he just typed that post out. |