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I need to say Thank You to the Jesus haters!!

 
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I need to say Thank You to the Jesus haters!!
You've made me a stronger and better Christian and by shilling for satan you force others interested in TRUTH to search the scriptures for themselves and they too grow in discernment to see through the lies of this world.

Thank you and God Bless!!


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Religion is often blamed for the miseries of the world. An "Imagine No Religion" billboard has just gone up in St. Louis, and most people get the point even if they disagree with it. If it were not for religion, after all, there would have been no Spanish Inquisition, no Taliban, no World Trade Center bombing, no human sacrifices to various and sundry gods. Religious wars would be conspicuously absent from world history and nobody would follow cult leaders in sipping down toxic Kool-Aid. Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion spends the first page of the Preface going through the evils that have been done in the name of religion. Yet, while atheists love to blame zealous believers for the world's sufferings, they have missed the true problem. Yes, much earthly evil has been done in the name of one deity or another, but religion isn't the real problem. The real problem is …. human nature.

Religion is a convenient scapegoat for the atheist, who wants to justify himself in a world of believers. The atheist has a serious problem in blaming the evils of the world on religion, though. For every complaint against religious people, there are plenty of complaints to be made against the faithless.

Have people been slaughtered in the name of religion? Certainly. Yet, the Crusades are a drop in the bucket compared to the massive death toll caused by atheistic regimes. The leaders of the French Revolution shoved God out of their social justice crusade, and the result was a blood bath. Stalin is responsible for the deaths of at least 20 million of his own people, and Mao Zedong's death toll runs upwards of 40-70 million. From Pol Pot in Cambodia to the Kims in North Korea, governments freed of "religion" – those utopias of atheistic communism - have murdered millions upon millions of people. People of various religions continue to fight all around the world, but, anti-God governments streamline human death. Any time people get starry-eyed about imagining "no religion too" they need a little history lesson.

The problem isn't religion or even lack thereof. The problem is humanity. Human beings have this propensity for violence and greed, for self aggrandizement and selfish laziness. We struggle – and sometimes succeed - to overcome these things, but they are there inside us. As Paul writes in Romans 7:21-24:

"I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?"
We all have that destructive sin nature inside us by birth. It's there, and we spend our lives fighting it. If we were naturally good, it would be easy to be good and kind, generous and patient. If we were naturally good, it would be a heavy effort to be rotten. But, we find that we are just the opposite, always struggling to do what is right and constantly falling into that corruption that most people want so desperately to avoid.

Even the atheist wants to avoid the corruption, as far as his own conscience dictates. Atheists have consciences too, after all. Paul writes:
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;" (Rom 2:14-15).
Atheists and humanists are quite capable of morality and moral decision making. Yet, in rejecting the True God, atheists and humanists make themselves their own gods, and because they have no greater yardstick to measure by, it often happens that they reject one evil only to turn around and embrace something far worse. The poor in France had good reason for anger against the spoiled aristocracy and opulent church in the late 18th century. But, having only man's reasoning to depend on, and hearts full of vengeance, thousands of innocent people were murdered. The atheist has nobody but himself and the local legal system to help him do the good he wants to do, and that can lead easily into gross error. Humankind has excellent thinking ability, but we can easily use that brainpower to justify doing the evil we want to do rather than the good we should.

Yet, the atheist is not too far off when he looks at the religions of the world and feels massively unimpressed. Religion is not the salvation of the world. Religion can be useful in that it provides a framework in which to live, and gives people rules of right and wrong outside themselves. Yet, religion itself cannot change the human heart or free humans of their natural destructive tendencies. In fact, some religious sects actually promote violence and destruction.

Paul didn't find the answer to his dilemma in religion. He found the answer in the person of Jesus Christ. He found his answer in the Spirit of God, working in human lives to cleanse and free and make new. And the Spirit of God is real, and He is powerful, and He continues to change millions of lives today. If more atheists were truly aware of the reality of God's Spirit to heal and to transform, Richard Dawkins would sell fewer books.
"This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit" (Gal 5:16,22-25).
Life on this planet is hard, and Jesus never promised us anything different. He said we would have many troubles in this world, but he also said he had overcome the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. If we are filled with the Spirit, walking hand-in-hand with our King and Savior, His light is going to shine out of us to the lost and the dying. And if, in the midst of our own struggles and suffering, the reality of Christ is alive and well in us, anybody who is watching will see the difference between the truth and the false religions that have caused so much grief through the years. If people can see Christ in us, they won't want to imagine a world without him.
"For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body" (2 Cor. 4:6-10).
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You're welcome.

Anything we can to to keep your unjustified sense of self-satisfaction and raging persecution complex well intact.
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You're welcome.

Anything we can to to keep your unjustified sense of self-satisfaction and raging persecution complex well intact.
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You've made me a stronger and better Christian and by shilling for satan you force others interested in TRUTH to search the scriptures for themselves and they too grow in discernment to see through the lies of this world.

Thank you and God Bless!!

 Quoting: Bugeater



It's part of your mental illness.

The more people that disagree with you, the more you think you are being a martyr for god.

Sad loop that you are stuck in. I guess you will waste your life being ignorant and living in fear.
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Re: I need to say Thank You to the Jesus haters!!
You've made me a stronger and better Christian and by shilling for satan you force others interested in TRUTH to search the scriptures for themselves and they too grow in discernment to see through the lies of this world.

Thank you and God Bless!!





Sad loop that you are stuck in. I guess you will waste your life being ignorant and living in fear.
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Sucks, but that's the reality for most of this world. They live their lives in this fantasy world, having no idea of what's really going on.

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Jesus came here to set men free from religion, not to enslave them in another one.
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Actually we need to thank you christians for the constant bickering over your false scriptures!!

Day in and day out we must endure the complete mind-numbing quoting of scriptures by you shallow non-thinking robots, who completely disregard any higher truths brought forward!!

So, It is I who must say thank you, I will never be counted among the non thinking masses ever again!!

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No prob.


See you tomorrow.
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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You're welcome.

Anything we can to to keep your unjustified sense of self-satisfaction and raging persecution complex well intact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657383


There is also that irrational belief in that magic old man in the sky for which he has no evidence....

But hey, thats only because he is unwilling to accept anything that doesnt conform with his ridiculous view of how he thinks things are.
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No prob.


See you tomorrow.
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Jesus came here to set men free from religion, not to enslave them in another one.
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hf

Don't you love how disagreeing with "Christianity" - which is actually Paulianity - earns you a "Jesus-hater" title? LOL

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I'll be here any time you need a refreshing cup of self delusion.

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I don't have a problem with your religion, per se. I do have a problem when religious types start saying that snippets from their texts are "proof of this" and "facts about that".

If religion were fact, it wouldn't need to be believed in to work for anyone.
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in my humble opinion, institutionalized religion is the problem. the word "religion" doesn't even show up in the bible once.

what the bible does talk about is faith, especially the new testament. what Jesus talked about was how to live life. being a christian (which means being a follower of Christ) is an approach and belief in how to live your day to day life.

just because you choose to follow Christ and live by what he has taught, does not mean that you should behave in such a way as to make people reject Christ by being an asshole.

I'm not referring to OP, but to the crazy wannabe christians that foam at the mouth like a rabid dog, or the philistine who has to have an audience to pray.

i guess what i am saying is that what you choose to believe in is a personal choice. and yes, as christians we are charged with trying to convert people, but that does not mean you do it by force or against a person wishes. what you do is give the kindness and understanding that Jesus Christ did while in human form. From that kindness and understanding, a person of thirsty soul, could turn to Christ. that's all there is to it. everything else is bullshit.
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There are "Jesus Lovers" on this board?

Funny, all I see for the most part are Genesis-Revelation obsessed book worshipers.
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There are "Jesus Lovers" on this board?

Funny, all I see for the most part are Genesis-Revelation obsessed book worshipers.
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teeeehee

You nailed that one!!
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I don't have a problem with your religion, per se. I do have a problem when religious types start saying that snippets from their texts are "proof of this" and "facts about that".

If religion were fact, it wouldn't need to be believed in to work for anyone.
 Quoting: MCRock 951075


the christards have a problem with delineation between fact and fantasy. They also have a complete inability to reason and lack the capacity for critical thinking. It all comes down to a warped system of beliefs instilled by a flim flam man.
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"Shilling for Satan"? lmao sockpuppet
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There are "Jesus Lovers" on this board?

Funny, all I see for the most part are Genesis-Revelation obsessed book worshipers.
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followers of christ are pretty lonely these days.
the term "christian" has been hijacked.
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Religion is often blamed for the miseries of the world.

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When it should be the people for follow religion to blame.



You'd do well to concentrate more upon your view of the world, instead of focusing on the athesits point of view.
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Seriously.

It's a psychological disorder.

(Of course they won't buy that, Satan invented psychiatry - amirite?)

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Dont you love how if you arent a christian, to these diluted people, you are working for satan?
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There are "Jesus Lovers" on this board?

Funny, all I see for the most part are Genesis-Revelation obsessed book worshipers.
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And leviticus and deuteronomy. Cant forget about the gay bashing and the other vile shit that goes along with it.
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You've made me a stronger and better Christian
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Cool.....be sure to mention that to God when you see Him! ;)
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in my humble opinion, institutionalized religion is the problem. the word "religion" doesn't even show up in the bible once.

what the bible does talk about is faith, especially the new testament. what Jesus talked about was how to live life. being a christian (which means being a follower of Christ) is an approach and belief in how to live your day to day life.

just because you choose to follow Christ and live by what he has taught, does not mean that you should behave in such a way as to make people reject Christ by being an asshole.

I'm not referring to OP, but to the crazy wannabe christians that foam at the mouth like a rabid dog, or the philistine who has to have an audience to pray.

i guess what i am saying is that what you choose to believe in is a personal choice. and yes, as christians we are charged with trying to convert people, but that does not mean you do it by force or against a person wishes. what you do is give the kindness and understanding that Jesus Christ did while in human form. From that kindness and understanding, a person of thirsty soul, could turn to Christ. that's all there is to it. everything else is bullshit.
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If Jesus had been real(not saying he wasn't, just if he were), I'd probably have thought he was an okay guy, simply because if he actually did say the things that he is alleged to have said, wow, what a radical thinker for his time.

All that aside, as you say, institutionalized religion IS a curse to humanity, always tripping on its dick, running to try and help itself while it claims to help others.

I like your choice of the word "institutionalized"; I think many followers of them should be!
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There are "Jesus Lovers" on this board?

Funny, all I see for the most part are Genesis-Revelation obsessed book worshipers.


And leviticus and deuteronomy. Cant forget about the gay bashing and the other vile shit that goes along with it.
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yes, those primarily concerned with the spiritual repercussions of the sexual/reproductive activity of minority groups run a close second.

Funny, all the "Jesus lovers" supposedly around here and I've never once seen cut 'n paste the Beatitudes.

Anyways...
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Dont you love how if you arent a christian, to these diluted people, you are working for satan?
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I've been trying to educate these christian folks for over two years on this board, and they have called me every vile name in the book!!

LOL....there was even an attempt at an exorcism on my person once with the original Latin language no less!!

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in my humble opinion, institutionalized religion is the problem. the word "religion" doesn't even show up in the bible once.

what the bible does talk about is faith, especially the new testament. what Jesus talked about was how to live life. being a christian (which means being a follower of Christ) is an approach and belief in how to live your day to day life.

just because you choose to follow Christ and live by what he has taught, does not mean that you should behave in such a way as to make people reject Christ by being an asshole.

I'm not referring to OP, but to the crazy wannabe christians that foam at the mouth like a rabid dog, or the philistine who has to have an audience to pray.

i guess what i am saying is that what you choose to believe in is a personal choice. and yes, as christians we are charged with trying to convert people, but that does not mean you do it by force or against a person wishes. what you do is give the kindness and understanding that Jesus Christ did while in human form. From that kindness and understanding, a person of thirsty soul, could turn to Christ. that's all there is to it. everything else is bullshit.


If Jesus had been real(not saying he wasn't, just if he were), I'd probably have thought he was an okay guy, simply because if he actually did say the things that he is alleged to have said, wow, what a radical thinker for his time.

All that aside, as you say, institutionalized religion IS a curse to humanity, always tripping on its dick, running to try and help itself while it claims to help others.

I like your choice of the word "institutionalized"; I think many followers of them should be!
 Quoting: MCRock 951075



yeah, a guy who handmakes a scourge so that he can beat people he disagrees with sounds like a stand up guy.

how about no.
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Dont you love how if you arent a christian, to these diluted people, you are working for satan?


I've been trying to educate these christian folks for over two years on this board, and they have called me every vile name in the book!!

LOL....there was even an attempt at an exorcism on my person once with the original Latin language no less!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Did it work?

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