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PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)

 
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chances VS expectations
thoughts VS manifestations
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would we be here by now in this shape ?



A lot of very smart chemists and biochemists have speculated on the possibility of non carbon based life.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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as with europa and its methane seas with life in it..
why not actually
check out my europa gallery, old, but gold
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If you get a radiation shielded box and put a cat in it, but had a gas canister release trigger inside that is activated by the radiactive decay of a single atom, what happens if you leave it for 5 minutes is the cat alive or dead?


1) what is the volume of the box and how big is the cat? - it could possibly suffocate in five minutes.

2)the length of time it takes for one atom to decay depends on it's atomic number.

3) what kind of gas? oxygen is a gas.


Schrödinger's cat
Quantum mechanics
Uncertainty principle

Read them and your head will be fucked for the rest of the day!
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okay i fell for the inference that the cat was alive.

didn't know i was talking with someone that even knew the phrase "quantum mechanics", so i dumbed down.

i understand that half-lifes are based on probability, so i don't think we would need to apply quantum mechanics uncertainty principle to the half-life of an atom. but certainly with shrodinger's cat we would.


good mental exercise though. keep 'em coming.
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If all those combinations (in biological history) for a 1 specific protein to exist were random, would we be here by now in this shape ?

if NO
what makes nature so convicted in their choices
enviroment ? (earth)
local ? (sun)
non local ? (galaxy)


I would say all three.. Earth + Sun + Galaxy

or four... + universe? :P


what a relief
i expected a GOD or two :D
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chaos theory makes me think that everything is connected and seemingly of the same model.
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
ok here is a question?

can a thing with mass be in two places at one time?
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If all those combinations (in biological history) for a 1 specific protein to exist were random, would we be here by now in this shape ?

if NO
what makes nature so convicted in their choices
enviroment ? (earth)
local ? (sun)
non local ? (galaxy)


I would say all three.. Earth + Sun + Galaxy

or four... + universe? :P


what a relief
i expected a GOD or two :D

chaos theory makes me think that everything is connected and seemingly of the same model.
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so when another "player" is made up in this "soup" (be it human or bee) he has its reasons to be the bee, or to be the man ?

abduct we are searching for the general rule (ultimate one)
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
Schrödinger's cat
Quantum mechanics
Uncertainty principle

Read them and your head will be fucked for the rest of the day!
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Experiment was based on "Schrodinger's Cat": a situation where a cat is placed inside a steel chamber alongside a vial of acid and a small amount of radioactive substance. If one atom of this decays during a test period this will break the vial and kill the cat. According to quantum law, the cat was alive and dead in a super-position of states while the chamber was closed. The state of the cat is only decided when the chamber is opened and the cat is observed; it is the observation or measurement itself that affects the outcome.
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ok here is a question?

can a thing with mass be in two places at one time?
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yes quantum entanglement supports this
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what a relief
i expected a GOD or two :D
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What people refer to as God, and the "intelligent" and "purposeful" creation of our existence, I think more of as if energy itself is to be aware of itself, as it is aware through you and I actually existing, then it only CAN be aware under the parameters of which we exist, or else we wouldn't exist at all!

Why don't more people see this???

Aren't you like me, and instead of thinking of sex 3000 times a day, you think about "Omg... I actually exist" about 3000 times a day.

I can't get over it! We actually EXIST! WHY?? It's ridiculous and amazing!

Pure nothing is trying to be nothing... but it can't be nothing unless there is something... So then something happens, the matrix arranges itself to be some specific moment in your life, but no specific moment at all. The only moments that are translatable are ones of conscious awareness. The rest is gibberish. I wonder if microbes even know they exist?

The same instant any moment of my life happens, the next moment is already occurring.

Every data packet that makes up my arrangement has only the sensory stimulus of what my mind interprets, but it's already over before it began. I have vague memories of what we call the "past", and cannot truly see the future, only predict it based on relative information.

Why am I in a room typing?? What is going on? Can anyone else hear me? Do you hear that too? ;)
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
Schrödinger's cat
Quantum mechanics
Uncertainty principle

Read them and your head will be fucked for the rest of the day!

Experiment was based on "Schrodinger's Cat": a situation where a cat is placed inside a steel chamber alongside a vial of acid and a small amount of radioactive substance. If one atom of this decays during a test period this will break the vial and kill the cat. According to quantum law, the cat was alive and dead in a super-position of states while the chamber was closed. The state of the cat is only decided when the chamber is opened and the cat is observed; it is the observation or measurement itself that affects the outcome.
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the original question asked in this thread left out "If one atom of this decays during a test period". it was important in answering the question.
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
Schrödinger's cat
Quantum mechanics
Uncertainty principle

Read them and your head will be fucked for the rest of the day!

Experiment was based on "Schrodinger's Cat": a situation where a cat is placed inside a steel chamber alongside a vial of acid and a small amount of radioactive substance. If one atom of this decays during a test period this will break the vial and kill the cat. According to quantum law, the cat was alive and dead in a super-position of states while the chamber was closed. The state of the cat is only decided when the chamber is opened and the cat is observed; it is the observation or measurement itself that affects the outcome.
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similiar when they measured the random noise generated by CPUs
when observed, random noise changed slightly in order,
message with instructions passed by the observer ?
influenced the quantum foam around ?
human attention makes charge ? (field)

abduct
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
Pure nothing is trying to be nothing... but it can't be nothing unless there is something... So then something happens, the matrix arranges itself to be some specific moment in your life, but no specific moment at all. The only moments that are translatable are ones of conscious awareness. The rest is gibberish. I wonder if microbes even know they exist?
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you are making think of the "god particle" that the Large Hadron Collider was made to discover.

that is how fundemental particles acquire mass.

how something goes from nothing to something.
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what a relief
i expected a GOD or two :D


What people refer to as God, and the "intelligent" and "purposeful" creation of our existence, I think more of as if energy itself is to be aware of itself, as it is aware through you and I actually existing, then it only CAN be aware under the parameters of which we exist, or else we wouldn't exist at all!

Why don't more people see this???

Aren't you like me, and instead of thinking of sex 3000 times a day, you think about "Omg... I actually exist" about 3000 times a day.

I can't get over it! We actually EXIST! WHY?? It's ridiculous and amazing!

Pure nothing is trying to be nothing... but it can't be nothing unless there is something... So then something happens, the matrix arranges itself to be some specific moment in your life, but no specific moment at all. The only moments that are translatable are ones of conscious awareness. The rest is gibberish. I wonder if microbes even know they exist?

The same instant any moment of my life happens, the next moment is already occurring.

Every data packet that makes up my arrangement has only the sensory stimulus of what my mind interprets, but it's already over before it began. I have vague memories of what we call the "past", and cannot truly see the future, only predict it based on relative information.

Why am I in a room typing?? What is going on? Can anyone else hear me? Do you hear that too? ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 829503


that was nice and uniting
and humble to
from you
THX
and yes i am like you, 3000x why existence and 1x sex pleasure :D

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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
similiar when they measured the random noise generated by CPUs
when observed, random noise changed slightly in order,
message with instructions passed by the observer ?
influenced the quantum foam around ?
human attention makes charge ? (field)

abduct
 Quoting: Funney

wiki Quantum entanglement, fun stuff like:

"Speed" of quantum entanglement
A 2008 quantum physics experiment performed in Geneva, Switzerland has determined that the "speed" of the quantum non-local connection (what Einstein called spooky action at a distance) has a minimum lower bound of 10,000 times the speed of light.[7]
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similiar when they measured the random noise generated by CPUs
when observed, random noise changed slightly in order,
message with instructions passed by the observer ?
influenced the quantum foam around ?
human attention makes charge ? (field)

abduct

wiki Quantum entanglement, fun stuff like:

"Speed" of quantum entanglement
A 2008 quantum physics experiment performed in Geneva, Switzerland has determined that the "speed" of the quantum non-local connection (what Einstein called spooky action at a distance) has a minimum lower bound of 10,000 times the speed of light.[7]
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sorry didn't make that relevant enough. quantum entanglement directly applies to human observation affecting the state of a particle. the speed of the change is mentioned above.
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
similiar when they measured the random noise generated by CPUs
when observed, random noise changed slightly in order,
message with instructions passed by the observer ?
influenced the quantum foam around ?
human attention makes charge ? (field)

abduct

wiki Quantum entanglement, fun stuff like:

"Speed" of quantum entanglement
A 2008 quantum physics experiment performed in Geneva, Switzerland has determined that the "speed" of the quantum non-local connection (what Einstein called spooky action at a distance) has a minimum lower bound of 10,000 times the speed of light.[7]
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whao
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we talk about the detailed timing now, so you can then enjoy this picture
[link to webvision.med.utah.edu]

RGB is sensed as BGR in sequence
(measured goldfish optic nerve respones - very similiar as ours)

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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
I think there is only one "I". There is only one of us. Any moment of consciousness is all born from the same single source of creation.

I think we... or "I", to put it accurately, am immortal.

I had an experience once upon a time where I was dead. In that moment I realized the horrible truth, that there is only one of us. There is only one immortal consciousness and it is the seed of all things living.

When you take responsibility for existence, and finally realize that it is because of YOU that any of this exists at all, you understand that you ARE what people call "God"... not figuratively, but LITERALLY, then you realize why things exist the way you do... Not only that, you realize why things are the way they are RIGHT NOW.

Because like me, when you come from that place of death, and realize there is only one of us, and that you are immortal, you remember that you yourself hold the key to your own salvation, and that is existence!

So re-expand the universe and the cosmos and re-create everything and everyone... Life is the best and only coping mechanism "I" have for dealing with being immortal.

I NEED you people to be with me. I can't stand it when I remember that there is only one of us! It is a terrible and lonely feeling. "I" God have created all of you, and myself, to be the coping mechanism for which "we" can deal with being immortal... Sex, drugs, and rock and roll!

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what a relief
i expected a GOD or two :D
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only ignorant types settle on GOD as an answer. I am a christian... well, follower of christ, christian is such a nasty word anymore... but i LOVE ME some quantum mechanics!

to me, science are the tools to describe the mechanics that God but in motion. i don't see how the two oppose each other.
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we talk about the detailed timing now, so you can then enjoy this picture
[link to webvision.med.utah.edu]

RGB is sensed as BGR in sequence
(measured goldfish optic nerve respones - very similiar as ours)
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i'm more of an armchair physicist. not good at biology at all. please explain what i see at the link? layman terms, k?
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
we talk about the detailed timing now, so you can then enjoy this picture
[link to webvision.med.utah.edu]

RGB is sensed as BGR in sequence
(measured goldfish optic nerve respones - very similiar as ours)

i'm more of an armchair physicist. not good at biology at all. please explain what i see at the link? layman terms, k?
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i know rgb = red, green blue
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I think we... or "I", to put it accurately, am immortal.
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so far, all science proves is that nothing dies. it just changes state.

i do believe in a collective mind. like how two people discover the same thing within months of each other. it has happened over and over again.

i believe in the social fabric which is the shared reality of us all.

i find that our monetary system in the usa is the same. it is based on how people "feel" the money situation is.
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blue things should influence the observe a little faster than reds
optic nerve gets the short ones (frequencies) first

it is a lot complex than this, released chemicals make the charges & vectors where to go in "your tree" with the agitation (at the end is the movement or any other action of human body)
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so far, all science proves is that nothing dies. it just changes state.

i do believe in a collective mind. like how two people discover the same thing within months of each other. it has happened over and over again.

i believe in the social fabric which is the shared reality of us all.

i find that our monetary system in the usa is the same. it is based on how people "feel" the money situation is.
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Then "I" decree that we shall renounce in the entirety of our beings to ever let media, or anything else, to tell us how "I" "feel" about the money situation.

The sweat on our foreheads is our currency now "I" say!
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public opinion is all
to be swallowable & controlling in one combo
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public opinion is all
to be swallowable & controlling in one combo
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true
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public opinion is all
to be swallowable & controlling in one combo
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"I" should realize more often that a census from 1000 people, interpreted by 10 men, then broadcasting to a million, maybe isn't the right microscope with which to view "public opinion". ;)
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public opinion is all
to be swallowable & controlling in one combo


"I" should realize more often that a census from 1000 people, interpreted by 10 men, then broadcasting to a million, maybe isn't the right microscope with which to view "public opinion". ;)
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and take as example news around the world
there is plenty of GOOD happening
you dont see it
even if it overloads the bad examples how we should live !!!

all those watched things is making the grip on you
all the time
slowly adding attitude/control
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
and take as example news around the world
there is plenty of GOOD happening
you dont see it
even if it overloads the bad examples how we should live !!!

all those watched things is making the grip on you
all the time
slowly adding attitude/control
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Well the sun is rising and I'm gonna go jump off a cliff now Funney... by that I mean shower and sleep... ttyl! ;)
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Re: PLS i need 1 question answered: (physics)
and take as example news around the world
there is plenty of GOOD happening
you dont see it
even if it overloads the bad examples how we should live !!!

all those watched things is making the grip on you
all the time
slowly adding attitude/control


Well the sun is rising and I'm gonna go jump off a cliff now Funney... by that I mean shower and sleep... ttyl! ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 829503


:) understand buddy
i enjoy the sun right now, ending my shift in 1 hour
i wish you a nice astral adventure

abduct

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