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Koran Verses of Hatred against Christians and Jews fueling Murder (Jihad movement)

 
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Peace in the middle east and the larger world cannot be made when such seeds of hate are inbreed within the text of the Koran and the Islamic world. 57 or so Moslem nations representing over 1 Billion inhabitants of this earth subscribe to this. They inculcate this hatred into their media (TV, Movies, Drama’s, Magazines, newspapers , newscasts , childrens books and cartoons) what chance is there to build a bridge with such intolerance and hatred.? How many Christians practice their religion publicly in Mecca ?

None, It is illegal to do so on the penalty of death. Why is this ?

Why is there such hatred of Christians and Jews by Islamic people ?

The answers to these questions are found in the the text of the Koran itself

Listed here are Koranic verses which are the foundation for these beliefs (prejudice).

The Quran, virtually on every page, is a manifesto for religious intolerance. – Sam Harris

It is these beliefs that fuels organizations as Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran

The Islamic Jihad movement. Take them seriously as they take these teachings seriously.

This is no joke.

If you doubt the accuracy …just copy and paste the subsection eg Qur’an 4:160 to your web brower.

Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Qur’an (5:51) - ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

Qur’an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have “invented a tremendous sin.”

Qur’an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.

Qur’an (5:51) Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.” Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur’an (3:85) - ”And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

. Qur’an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

Qur’an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.

Qur’an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.

Qur’an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.

Qur’an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Qur’an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.

Qur’an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.

Qur’an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.

Qur’an 19:35-37“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.

Qur’an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?

Qur’an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?

Ishaq:364 “Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.”

Qur’an 3:67 ”Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.”

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

THERE ARE ALOT MORE

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“This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.” - Dalai Lama
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“This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.” - Dalai Lama
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unfortunatly the philosophy is kindness is not


the Islamic philosophy

They seem more like the "klingons" on star trek
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Peace in the middle east and the larger world cannot be made when such seeds of hate are inbreed within the text of the Koran and the Islamic world. 57 or so Moslem nations representing over 1 Billion inhabitants of this earth subscribe to this. They inculcate this hatred into their media (TV, Movies, Drama’s, Magazines, newspapers , newscasts , childrens books and cartoons) what chance is there to build a bridge with such intolerance and hatred.? How many Christians practice their religion publicly in Mecca ?

None, It is illegal to do so on the penalty of death. Why is this ?

Why is there such hatred of Christians and Jews by Islamic people ?

The answers to these questions are found in the the text of the Koran itself

Listed here are Koranic verses which are the foundation for these beliefs (prejudice).

The Quran, virtually on every page, is a manifesto for religious intolerance. – Sam Harris

It is these beliefs that fuels organizations as Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran

The Islamic Jihad movement. Take them seriously as they take these teachings seriously.

This is no joke.

If you doubt the accuracy …just copy and paste the subsection eg Qur’an 4:160 to your web brower.

Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Qur’an (5:51) - ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

Qur’an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have “invented a tremendous sin.”

Qur’an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.

Qur’an (5:51) Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.” Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur’an (3:85) - ”And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

. Qur’an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

Qur’an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.

Qur’an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.

Qur’an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.

Qur’an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Qur’an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.

Qur’an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.

Qur’an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.

Qur’an 19:35-37“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.

Qur’an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?

Qur’an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?

Ishaq:364 “Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.”

Qur’an 3:67 ”Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.”

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

THERE ARE ALOT MORE

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 Quoting: Woe 997664

alien16 Anything in there about Killing Russians And Americans, infidels, nonbelievers, children of the Book, children of the Torah?
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Is not your Torah claim that you Jews are above all other humans


Get your shit out of here you criminal
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Peace in the middle east and the larger world cannot be made when such seeds of hate are inbreed within the text of the Koran and the Islamic world. 57 or so Moslem nations representing over 1 Billion inhabitants of this earth subscribe to this. They inculcate this hatred into their media (TV, Movies, Drama’s, Magazines, newspapers , newscasts , childrens books and cartoons) what chance is there to build a bridge with such intolerance and hatred.? How many Christians practice their religion publicly in Mecca ?

None, It is illegal to do so on the penalty of death. Why is this ?

Why is there such hatred of Christians and Jews by Islamic people ?

The answers to these questions are found in the the text of the Koran itself

Listed here are Koranic verses which are the foundation for these beliefs (prejudice).

The Quran, virtually on every page, is a manifesto for religious intolerance. – Sam Harris

It is these beliefs that fuels organizations as Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran

The Islamic Jihad movement. Take them seriously as they take these teachings seriously.

This is no joke.

If you doubt the accuracy …just copy and paste the subsection eg Qur’an 4:160 to your web brower.

Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Qur’an (5:51) - ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

Qur’an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have “invented a tremendous sin.”

Qur’an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.

Qur’an (5:51) Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.” Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur’an (3:85) - ”And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

. Qur’an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

Qur’an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.

Qur’an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.

Qur’an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.

Qur’an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Qur’an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.

Qur’an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.

Qur’an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.

Qur’an 19:35-37“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.

Qur’an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?

Qur’an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?

Ishaq:364 “Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.”

Qur’an 3:67 ”Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.”

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

THERE ARE ALOT MORE

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alien16 Anything in there about Killing Russians And Americans, infidels, nonbelievers, children of the Book, children of the Torah?
 Quoting: Iddo The Prophet 933093





. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

They all got to go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is not your Torah claim that you Jews are above all other humans


Get your shit out of here you criminal
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Is not your Torah claim that you Jews are above all other humans


No , There are no verses that say that

Jews dont think like that either

only rascists like yourself


You don't know me, how dare you call me a "criminal"


see a doctor for your mental illness

Stop your hate
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Hilkhoth Maakhaloth -- Christians are idolators, must not associate.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Do not associate with gentiles, they shed blood.

Iore Dea (153, 2). -- Must not associate with Christians, shed blood.

Abhodah Zarah (25b). -- Beware of Christians when walking abroad with them.

Orach Chaiim (20, 2). -- Christians disguise themselves to kill Jews.

Abhodah Zarah (15b) -- Suggest Christians have sex relations with animals.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals.

Schabbath (145b) -- Christians unclean because they eat accordingly

Abhodah Zarah (22b) -- Christians unclean because they not at Mount Sinai.

Iore Dea (198, 48). -- Clean female Jews contaminated meeting Christians.

Kerithuth (6b p. 78) -- Jews called men, Christians not called men.

Makkoth (7b) -- Innocent of murder if intent was to kill Christian.

Orach Chaiim(225, 10) -- Christians and animals grouped for comparisons.

Midrasch Talpioth 225 -- Christians created to minister to Jews always.

Orach Chaiim 57, 6a -- Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs.

Zohar II (64b) -- Christian idolators likened to cows and asses.

Kethuboth (110b). -- Psalmist compares Christians to unclean beasts.

Sanhedrin (74b). Tos. -- Sexual intercourse of Christian like that of beast.

Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.

Kidduschim (68a) -- Christians like the people of an ass.

Eben Haezar (44,8) -- Marriages between Christian and Jews null.

Zohar (II, 64b) -- Christian birth rate must be diminished materially.

Zohar (I, 28b) -- Christian idolators children of Eve's serpent.

Zohar (I, 131a) -- Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world.

Emek Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews' souls come from death and death's shadow.

Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) -- Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins.

Rosch Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews souls go down to hell.

Iore Dea (337, 1). -- Replace dead Christians like lost cow or ass.

Iebhammoth (61a) -- Jews called men, but not Christians called men.

Abhodah Zarah (14b) T -- Forbidden to sell religious works to Christians

Abhodah Zarah (78) -- Christian churches are places of idolatry.

Iore Dea (142, 10) -- Must keep far away physically from churches.

Iore Dea (142, 15) -- Must not listen to church music or look at idols

Iore Dea (143, 1) -- Must not rebuild homes destroyed near churches.

Hilkoth Abh. Zar (10b) -- Jews must not resell broken chalices to Christians.

Chullin (91b) -- Jews possess dignity even an angel cannot share.

Sanhedrin, 58b -- To strike Israelite like slapping face of God.

Chagigah, 15b -- A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits.

Gittin (62a) -- Jew stay away from Christian homes on holidays.

Choschen Ham. (26,1) -- Jew must not sue before a Christian judge or laws.

Choschen Ham (34,19) -- Christian or servant cannot become witnesses.

Iore Dea (112, 1). -- Avoid eating with Christians, breeds familiarity.

Abhodah Zarah (35b) -- Do not drink milk from a cow milked by Christian.

Iore dea (178, 1) -- Never imitate customs of Christians, even hair-comb.

Abhodah Zarah (72b) -- Wine touched by Christians must be thrown away.

Iore Dea (120, 1) -- Bought-dishes from Christians must be thrown away.

Abhodah Zarah (2a) -- For three days before Christian festivals, avoid all.

Abhodah Zarah (78c) -- Festivals of followers of Jesus regarded as idolatry.

Iore Dea (139, 1) -- Avoid things used by Christians in their worship.

Abhodah Zarah (14b) -- Forbidden to sell Christians articles for worship.

Iore Dea (151,1) H. -- Do not sell water to Christians articles for baptisms.

Abhodah Zarah (2a, 1) -- Do not trade with Christians on their feast days.

Abhodah Zarah (1,2) -- Now permitted to trade with Christians on such days.

Abhodah Zarah (2aT) -- Trade with Christians because they have money to pay.

Iore Dea (148, 5) -- If Christian is not devout, may send him gifts.

Hilkoth Akum (IX,2) -- Send gifts to Christians only if they are irreligious.

Iore Dea (81,7 Ha) -- Christian wet-nurses to be avoided because dangerous.

Iore Dea (153, 1 H) -- Christian nurse will lead children to heresy.

Iore Dea (155,1). -- Avoid Christian doctors not well known to neighbors.

Peaschim (25a) -- Avoid medical help from idolators, Christians meant.

Iore Dea (156,1) -- Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews.

Abhodah Zarah (26a). -- Avoid Christian midwives as dangerous when alone.

Zohar (1,25b) -- Those who do good to Christians never rise when dead.

Hilkoth Akum (X,6) -- Help needy Christians if it will promote peace.

Iore Dea (148, 12H) -- Hide hatred for Christians at their celebrations.

Abhodah Zarah (20a) -- Never praise Christians lest it be believed true.

Iore Dea (151,14) -- Not allowed to praise Christians to add to glory.

Hilkoth Akum (V, 12) -- Quote Scriptures to forbid mention of Christian god.

Iore Dea (146, 15) -- Refer to Christian religious articles with contempt.

Iore Dea (147,5) -- Deride Christian religious articles without wishes.

Hilkoth Akum (X,5) -- No gifts to Christians, gifts to converts.

Iore Dea (151,11) -- Gifts forbidden to Christians, encourages friendship.

Iore Dea (335,43) -- Exile for that Jew who sells farm to Christian.

Iore Dea (154,2) -- Forbidden to teach a trade to a Christian

Babha Bathra (54b) -- Christian property belongs to first person claiming.

Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Keep what Christian overpays in error.

Choschen Ham(226,1) -- Jew may keep lost property of Christian found by Jew.

Babha Kama (113b) -- It is permitted to deceive Christians.

Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Jews must divide what they overcharge Christians.

Choschen Ham(156,5) -- Jews must not take Christian customers from Jews.

Iore Dea (157,2) H -- May deceive Christians that believe Christian tenets.

Abhodah Zarah (54a) --Usury may be practiced upon Christians or apostates.

Iore Dea (159,1) -- Usury permitted now for any reason to Christians.

Babha Kama (113a) -- Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.

Babha Kama (113b) -- Name of God not profaned when lying to Christians.

Kallah (1b, p.18) -- Jew may perjure himself with a clear conscience.

Schabbouth Hag. (6d). -- Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.

Zohar (1,160a). -- Jews must always try to deceive Christians.

Iore Dea (158,1) -- Do not cure Christians unless it makes enemies.

Orach Cahiim (330,2) -- Do not assist Christian's childbirth on Saturday.

Choschen Ham.(425,5) -- Unless believes in Torah do not prevent his death.

Iore Dea (158,1) -- Christians not enemies must not be saved either.

Hilkkoth Akum (X,1) -- Do not save Christians in danger of death.

Choschen Ham(386,10) -- A spy may be killed even before he confesses.

Abhodah Zorah (26b) -- Apostates to be thrown into well, not rescued.

Choschen Ham(388,15) -- Kill those who give Israelites' money to Christians

Sanhedrin (59a) -- `Prying into Jews' "Law" to get death penalty

Hilkhoth Akum(X,2) -- Baptized Jews are to be put to death

Iore Dea(158,2)Hag. -- Kill renegades who turn to Christian rituals.

Choschen Ham(425,5) -- Those who do not believe in Torah are to be killed.

Hilkhoth tesch.III,8 -- Christians and others deny the "Law" of the Torah.

Zohar (I,25a) -- Christians are to be destroyed as idolators.

Zohar (II,19a) -- Captivity of Jews end when Christian princes die.

Zohar (I,219b) -- Princes of Christians are idolators, must die.

Obadiam -- When Rome is destroyed, Israel will be redeemed.

Abhodah Zarah(26b) T. -- "Even the best of the Goim should be killed."

Sepher Or Israel 177b -- If Jew kills Christian commits no sin.

Ialkut Simoni (245c) -- Shedding blood of impious offers sacrifice to God.

Zohar (II, 43a) -- Extermination of Christians necessary sacrifice.

Zohar (L,28b,39a) -- High place in heaven for those who kill idolators.

Hilkhoth Akum(X,1) -- Make no agreements and show no mercy to Christians

Hilkhoth Akum (X,1) -- Either turn them away from their idols or kill.

Hilkhoth Akum (X,7) -- Allow no idolators to remain where Jews are strong.

Choschen Ham(388,16) -- All contribute to expense of killing traitor.

Pesachim (49b) -- No need of prayers while beheading on Sabbath.

Schabbath (118a). -- Prayers to save from punishment of coming Messiah.
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Trace the Black Stone of Mecca all the way back to Turkey/Rome where the Black Stone fell from heaven (Zeus)and became Diana/Cybele and Now Mary.


It is the great mother goddess's labia that they kiss in Mecca. The Moon Goddess.

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Cybele worship was associated with a BLACK STONE or meteorite!!

Cybele worship was associated with a BLACK STONE or meteorite that had fallen from the sky:

The tower on Cybele's head is a reminder of the Tower of Babel—the scene of the first great apostasy after the great Flood of Noah.


"Varro states that the goddess was brought from a shrine called the Megalesion in the city of Pergamon while Ovid located the Mother's home on Mount Ida near the ancient city of Troy, which was under Pergamene control at that time. Livy seems to combine the two traditions in reporting that the Romans sought the help of the Pergamene king Attalos I in obtaining the goddess from Pessinous. Precisely what the Romans obtained is described in several sources: it was a small dark sacred stone not formed into any iconographic image, that had fallen to the shrine of Pessinous from the sky."(Roller, In Search of God the Mother, p. 265).

This MAGIC STONE has not been found in any of the excavations of the city of Rome!!

Finding this "LOST" black stone would be one of the greatest archeological discoveries of ALL time:

The sanctuary was used until the fifth century A.D. The historian Zosimus narrates the story of Serena, daughter of Theodosius the Great, and wife of his minister, the Vandal Stilicho. She went into the temple, removed a beautiful necklace from the statue and hung it around her own neck. The last remaining Vestal Virgin, an old woman, happened to be in the temple, and courageously reprimanded Serena, pointing out the sacrilegious nature of her action.
The excavation of this temple, which began as far back as 1872, has not yet brought to light the black meteorite. In fact this sacred place and its surroundings have never been thoroughly examined, although the 1952 excavations have brought some issues closer to a solution, such as the Attis question. (Vermaseren, Cybele and Attis, p. 43).

Cybele's BLACK STONE is at MECCA!

The missing BLACK STONE is now at Mecca and continues to be worshipped by millions of people.

The BLACK STONE of Cybele at Mecca.


The diabolical story of how Islam was founded by the Vatican is told here.

The magic stone was brought from Rome to Mecca and set up for the Arabs to worship.

About 100 years after the founding of Islam, huge Arab armies conquered North Africa and in 711 were "invited" to invade Spain.

They never left until 1492 —the same year Pope Alexander VI bought the Papacy, and Columbus sailed for the island of Santo Domingo.

800 years of war with the Moslem Moors produced the merciless, cruel, bigoted Spanish Inquisition and the Borgia crime family which gave the New World to Spain.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Peace in the middle east and the larger world cannot be made when such seeds of hate are inbreed within the text of the Koran and the Islamic world. 57 or so Moslem nations representing over 1 Billion inhabitants of this earth subscribe to this. They inculcate this hatred into their media (TV, Movies, Drama’s, Magazines, newspapers , newscasts , childrens books and cartoons) what chance is there to build a bridge with such intolerance and hatred.? How many Christians practice their religion publicly in Mecca ?

None, It is illegal to do so on the penalty of death. Why is this ?

Why is there such hatred of Christians and Jews by Islamic people ?

The answers to these questions are found in the the text of the Koran itself

Listed here are Koranic verses which are the foundation for these beliefs (prejudice).

The Quran, virtually on every page, is a manifesto for religious intolerance. – Sam Harris

It is these beliefs that fuels organizations as Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran

The Islamic Jihad movement. Take them seriously as they take these teachings seriously.

This is no joke.

If you doubt the accuracy …just copy and paste the subsection eg Qur’an 4:160 to your web brower.

Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Qur’an (5:51) - ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

Qur’an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have “invented a tremendous sin.”

Qur’an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.

Qur’an (5:51) Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.” Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur’an (3:85) - ”And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

. Qur’an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

Qur’an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.

Qur’an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.

Qur’an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.

Qur’an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Qur’an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.

Qur’an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.

Qur’an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.

Qur’an 19:35-37“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.

Qur’an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?

Qur’an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?

Ishaq:364 “Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.”

Qur’an 3:67 ”Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.”

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

THERE ARE ALOT MORE

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Most of these verses are taken out of context. And many of them say that violence is to be met with violence and never to be instigated. There are 1.3 billion Muslims living in the world. They are not killing "disbelievers". Since the Prophet's time there have been non-muslims living under muslim rule and they have been treated with respect and lived peacefully. Dont bring up that whole Jizya thing...it is a tax imposed on non-Muslims since they do not join in the armies and since they pay NO OTHER tax (Muslims have to pay Zakat while Christains have to pay Jizya). It is assholes like yourself who try to inspire hatred amongst people. you are crazy evil and greedy and I hope no one here takes your BS to mind.
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Look, an anti muslim thread, lets start the persecution, christards should know what that means.
It doesn't take a genius to see that the world has problems.

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Is not your Torah claim that you Jews are above all other humans


Get your shit out of here you criminal
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Where exactly in the Torah you read this? Reference, please.

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A while ago, a Muslim brother forwarded a message he found on a
Jewish net which attempted to prove the corruption of the Qur'an.
The post attempted to show that Muslims are command in the
Qur'an to kill all non-Muslims and FORCE them into Islam. A
knowledgeable scholar of Islam, one who knows the context within
which each verse was revealed would be able to refute these claims
quite simply, however, I have decided that it is necessary to provide
Muslims with the weapons they need to counter such attacks in order
to not allow them to force us to always be on the defensive. But
rather, be able to effectively launch an effective devastating
OFFENSIVE strike at them as well when they try such games.

First, a word of caution: The information I am about to provide is to
be used to respond to them RESPECTFULLY and CALMLY. A
person possessing the truth does not need arrogance. Allah has
placed
us on this earth to guide mankind to His deen. This includes the
Jews. We should wish for them the same guidance we wish for
ourselves. We should not be so quick to call for death and
destruction until all avenues of dawa and calm rational reasoning have
been exhausted.

Allah (SWT) says: "And argue not with the people of the book unless
it be in (a way) which is better (than mere arguing), except with such
of them that do wrong, and say (to them): 'We believe in that which
had been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your
God is One, and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)" Al-
Ankaboot(29):46.

The "people of the Book" includes Jews. Remember that. Even
though Allah (SWT) has told us of the hatred they hide in their
hearts, He has not command us to hate and kill every single Jew we
meet simply because he is a Jew. We are better than that. We serve a
higher purpose. For this reason, I am going to provide a very
devastating argument against them in order to assist them in seeing
the
corruption of their forefathers and see how their God is even yet
trying to save them and guide them to Islam. I cannot emphasize this
point enough, please be respectful and receptive. Be willing to take
abuse and respond with kindness. If one of them were to be guided, it
will be to your benefit. It will take some time for you to read and
digest the following proof, but once you have done so, no Jew will
(inshallah, of course) ever be able to respond to you.

Note: Please forward this message to all Islamic nets you may have
access to so that they may benifit from it.


Now the proof:
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Did mankind tamper with the Old Testament?:

"And because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them
and made hard their hearts. They change words from their places and
have abandoned a good part of the message that was sent to them.
And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of
them. But forgive them and overlook(their misdeed). Verily! Allah
loves the kindly". The Qur'an, Al-Maidah(5):13.

"O Messenger!(Mohammad) Do no be grieved by those who vie with
one another in the race to disbelief, of such as say with their mouths:
"We believe" but their hearts believe not, and of the Jews: of them are
those who listen eagerly to lies -listener to others who have not come
to you. They change the words from their places; they say: If you are
given this then take it, but if you are not given this then beware! He
whom Allah dooms unto sin, you (by your efforts) will avail him
naught against Allah. Those are they for whom the will of Allah is that
He cleanse not their hearts; for them there is a disgrace in this world,
and in the Hereafter a great torment". The Qur'an, Al-Maidah(5):41.

The Jews have, from one generation to another, handed down their
Old Testament, as the faultless words of Moses (pbuh) and the
prophets. The "Old testament" is made up of the "Torah" (Tawrat),
(which is also called "the Pentateuch"), and the "books of the
prophets".
The "Torah" consists of the first five books of the Old Testament.
They are believed by the Jews to have been written by Moses (pbuh).
These five books are: "Genesis", "Exodus", "Leviticus", "Numbers",
and "Deuteronomy". After the Christians decided to incorporate the
Old Testament into their Bible, they began to study these books in
great detail..

For countless ages, the only book of history available to Christians
and Jews was the Old Testament. When someone wanted to know
what happened in the past, they would go back and study the Old
Testament to find the answer. New theories about history literally
lived and died by their conformance to what the Old Testament
taught. Then the discrepancies began to be noticed.

Once mankind began to study the OT in detail, comparing the various
passages which referred to the same topic in order to obtain as much
detail as possible, they began to notice conflicting accounts of many
matters as well as other problems. For instance, in the eleventh
century, it was noticed that the list of Edomite kings in Genesis 36
names kings who lived long after Moses was dead. Then people
began to notice such statements as "to this day" something is true,
which implies that the author was looking back at these matters
through history and has seen that they have endured.

After this, it was noticed that in the beginning verses of the OT
manuscripts, Deuteronomy says: "These are the words that Moses
spoke to the children of Israel across the Jordan...". They noticed
that the words "across the Jordan" refers to people who are on the
opposite side of the Jordan river to the author. But the alleged
author, Moses himself, was never supposed to have been in Israel in
his life.

It was also noticed that Moses speaks in detail in Deuteronomy 34:5-
10 about how he died and where he was buried. Moses also calls
himself the most humble man on earth in Numbers 12:3 (would the
most humble man on earth call himself the most humble man on
earth?). In Deuteronomy 34:10 we read "And there arose not a
prophet since in Israel like unto Moses". This also implies that the
author was looking back at Moses through history a long time after
Moses's death. Now the flood gates were opened and countless other
discrepancies began to show up.

In the beginning, it was claimed that Moses wrote the Pentateuch
(Five "books of Moses") and anyone contesting this fact would be
severely punished or worse. However, when these matters started to
become well known, it became necessary to find explanations. For
example, the first explanation presented for the verses referring to the
death of Moses was that Moses (pbuh) had written his books, but that
later prophets, as well as "inspired" scribes (who could also be
considered prophets), had later on added on a couple of lines here and
there. In this manner the text remained 100% the "inspiration" of
God. This explanation, however, did not stand up to scrutiny because
the style and literary characteristics of the verses are the same
throughout. For instance, the verses which describe the death and
burial of Moses exhibit the same literary characteristics as the verses
before and after them. Thus, they must have been written by the same
person.

The Doublets:
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After this, the trend became to explain any and all discrepancies
through abstractism and elaborate interpretations, or through the
introduction of additional narrative details that did not appear in the
biblical text. Around this time, a startling new discovery was made.
It was noticed that the stories in the five books of Moses were made
up of doublets. A doublet is a case of one story being told twice.
Even in the English translation of the Bible, the doublets are
noticeable. These doublets have been masterfully intertwined so that
they become one narrative.

For example, there are doublets of the creation of the world, the
covenant between God and Abraham, the naming of Isaac, Abraham's
claim that his wife Sarah was his sister, the story of Jacob's journey to
Mesopotamia, Jacob's revelation at Beth-El,.......and on and on. In
many cases these doublets actually contradict one another. The
apologists once again jumped up with an explanation in hand. They
claimed that the doublets were complementary and not contradictive.
It was claimed that they came to teach us a lesson by their "apparent"
contradiction. However, this claim did not hold water for long. The
reason is that not long after, it was discovered that when the doublets
were separated into two separate accounts, each account was almost
always consistent about the name of the deity that it used. One would
always refer to God as Yahweh/Jehovah. This document was called
"J". The other always referred to Him as Elohim(God). It was called
"E". There were various other literary characteristics which were
then found to be common to one group or the other. It became
obvious that someone had taken two separate accounts of the ministry
of Moses (pbuh), cut them up, and then woven them together quite
masterfully so that their actions would not be discovered until
countless centuries later.

Once this startling discovery was made, the Old Testament was once
again placed under the scrutiny of scholars and it was discovered that
the Pentateuch was not made up of two major source documents but
FOUR. It was discovered that some stories were not only doublets,
but triplets. Additional literary characteristics were identified for
these documents. The third source was called P (for Priestly), and the
fourth D (for Deuteronomy). In the end it was concluded that the
first four "books of Moses" were the result of the merging of three
separate accounts which were called J, E, and P, and the book of
Deuteronomy was found to be a separate account which was called
D. The person (or persons) who collected and intertwined these
sources was called "The Redactor". Let us have a look at an example
of these doublets from Genesis 6:5 to 8:22. The Jehovah(J) text is in
regular type, THE PRIESTLY(P) IN CAPITALS:

Genesis 6:
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Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in
the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was
only evil continually.
Genesis 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the
earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Genesis 6:7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have
created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the
creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have
made them.
Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Genesis 6:9 THESE ARE THE GENERATIONS OF NOAH:
NOAH WAS A JUST MAN AND PERFECT IN HIS
GENERATIONS, AND NOAH WALKED WITH GOD.
Genesis 6:10 AND NOAH BEGAT THREE SONS, SHEM, HAM,
AND JAPHETH.
Genesis 6:11 THE EARTH ALSO WAS CORRUPT BEFORE
GOD, AND THE EARTH WAS FILLED WITH VIOLENCE.
Genesis 6:12 AND GOD LOOKED UPON THE EARTH, AND,
BEHOLD, IT WAS CORRUPT; FOR ALL FLESH HAD
CORRUPTED HIS WAY UPON THE EARTH.
Genesis 6:13 AND GOD SAID UNTO NOAH, THE END OF ALL
FLESH IS COME BEFORE ME; FOR THE EARTH IS FILLED
WITH VIOLENCE THROUGH THEM; AND, BEHOLD, I WILL
DESTROY THEM WITH THE EARTH.
Genesis 6:14 MAKE THEE AN ARK OF GOPHER WOOD;
ROOMS SHALT THOU MAKE IN THE ARK, AND SHALT
PITCH IT WITHIN AND WITHOUT WITH PITCH.
Genesis 6:15 AND THIS IS THE FASHION WHICH THOU
SHALT MAKE IT OF: THE LENGTH OF THE ARK SHALL BE
THREE HUNDRED CUBITS, THE BREADTH OF IT FIFTY
CUBITS, AND THE HEIGHT OF IT THIRTY CUBITS.
Genesis 6:16 A WINDOW SHALT THOU MAKE TO THE ARK,
AND IN A CUBIT SHALT THOU FINISH IT ABOVE; AND THE
DOOR OF THE ARK SHALT THOU SET IN THE SIDE
THEREOF; WITH LOWER, SECOND, AND THIRD STORIES
SHALT THOU MAKE IT.
Genesis 6:17 AND, BEHOLD, I, EVEN I, DO BRING A FLOOD
OF WATERS UPON THE EARTH, TO DESTROY ALL FLESH,
WHEREIN IS THE BREATH OF LIFE, FROM UNDER HEAVEN;
AND EVERY THING THAT IS IN THE EARTH SHALL DIE.
Genesis 6:18 BUT WITH THEE WILL I ESTABLISH MY
COVENANT; AND THOU SHALT COME INTO THE ARK,
THOU, AND THY SONS, AND THY WIFE, AND THY SONS'
WIVES WITH THEE.
Genesis 6:19 AND OF EVERY LIVING THING OF ALL FLESH,
TWO OF EVERY SORT SHALT THOU BRING INTO THE ARK,
TO KEEP THEM ALIVE WITH THEE; THEY SHALL BE MALE
AND FEMALE.
Genesis 6:20 OF FOWLS AFTER THEIR KIND, AND OF
CATTLE AFTER THEIR KIND, OF EVERY CREEPING THING
OF THE EARTH AFTER HIS KIND, TWO OF EVERY SORT
SHALL COME UNTO THEE, TO KEEP THEM ALIVE.
Genesis 6:21 AND TAKE THOU UNTO THEE OF ALL FOOD
THAT IS EATEN, AND THOU SHALT GATHER IT TO THEE;
AND IT SHALL BE FOR FOOD FOR THEE, AND FOR THEM.
Genesis 6:22 THUS DID NOAH; ACCORDING TO ALL THAT
GOD COMMANDED HIM, SO DID HE.

Genesis 7:
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Genesis 7:1 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy
house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this
generation.
Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens,
the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the
male and his female.
Genesis 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the
female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the
earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I
have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
Genesis 7:5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord
commanded him.
Genesis 7:6 AND NOAH WAS SIX HUNDRED YEARS OLD
WHEN THE FLOOD OF WATERS WAS UPON THE EARTH.
Genesis 7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his
sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
Genesis 7:8 OF CLEAN BEASTS, AND OF BEASTS THAT ARE
NOT CLEAN, AND OF FOWLS, AND OF EVERY THING THAT
CREEPETH UPON THE EARTH,
Genesis 7:9 THERE WENT IN TWO AND TWO UNTO NOAH
INTO THE ARK, THE MALE AND THE FEMALE, AS GOD
HAD COMMANDED NOAH.
Genesis 7:10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of
the flood were upon the earth.
Genesis 7:11 IN THE SIX HUNDREDTH YEAR OF NOAH'S
LIFE, IN THE SECOND MONTH, THE SEVENTEENTH DAY OF
THE MONTH, THE SAME DAY WERE ALL THE FOUNTAINS
OF THE GREAT DEEP BROKEN UP, AND THE WINDOWS OF
HEAVEN WERE OPENED.
Genesis 7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty
nights.
Genesis 7:13 IN THE SELFSAME DAY ENTERED NOAH, AND
SHEM, AND HAM, AND JAPHETH, THE SONS OF NOAH, AND
NOAH'S WIFE, AND THE THREE WIVES OF HIS SONS WITH
THEM, INTO THE ARK;
Genesis 7:14 THEY, AND EVERY BEAST AFTER HIS KIND,
AND ALL THE CATTLE AFTER THEIR KIND, AND EVERY
CREEPING THING THAT CREEPETH UPON THE EARTH
AFTER HIS KIND, AND EVERY FOWL AFTER HIS KIND,
EVERY BIRD OF EVERY SORT.
Genesis 7:15 AND THEY WENT IN UNTO NOAH INTO THE
ARK, TWO AND TWO OF ALL FLESH, WHEREIN IS THE
BREATH OF LIFE.
Genesis 7:16 AND THEY THAT WENT IN, WENT IN MALE
AND FEMALE OF ALL FLESH, AS GOD HAD COMMANDED
HIM: and the Lord shut him in.
Genesis 7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the
waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the
earth.
Genesis 7:18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly
upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
Genesis 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth;
and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
covered.
Genesis 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the
mountains were covered.
Genesis 7:21 AND ALL FLESH DIED THAT MOVED UPON
THE EARTH, BOTH OF FOWL, AND OF CATTLE, AND OF
BEAST, AND OF EVERY CREEPING THING THAT CREEPETH
UPON THE EARTH, AND EVERY MAN:
Genesis 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that
was in the dry land, died.
Genesis 7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was
upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping
things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the
earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in
the ark.
Genesis 7:24 AND THE WATERS PREVAILED UPON THE
EARTH AN HUNDRED AND FIFTY DAYS.


Genesis 8:
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Genesis 8:1 AND GOD REMEMBERED NOAH, AND EVERY
LIVING THING, AND ALL THE CATTLE THAT WAS WITH
HIM IN THE ARK: AND GOD MADE A WIND TO PASS OVER
THE EARTH, AND THE WATERS ASSWAGED;
Genesis 8:2 THE FOUNTAINS ALSO OF THE DEEP AND THE
WINDOWS OF HEAVEN WERE STOPPED, and the rain from
heaven was restrained;
Genesis 8:3 And the waters returned from off the earth continually:
AND AFTER THE END OF THE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DAYS
THE WATERS WERE ABATED.
Genesis 8:4 AND THE ARK RESTED IN THE SEVENTH
MONTH, ON THE SEVENTEENTH DAY OF THE MONTH,
UPON THE MOUNTAINS OF ARARAT.
Genesis 8:5 AND THE WATERS DECREASED CONTINUALLY
UNTIL THE TENTH MONTH: IN THE TENTH MONTH, ON
THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH, WERE THE TOPS OF THE
MOUNTAINS SEEN.
Genesis 8:6 And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah
opened the window of the ark which he had made:
Genesis 8:7 AND HE SENT FORTH A RAVEN, WHICH WENT
FORTH TO AND FRO, UNTIL THE WATERS WERE DRIED UP
FROM OFF THE EARTH.
Genesis 8:8 Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters
were abated from off the face of the ground;
Genesis 8:9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and
she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of
the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled
her in unto him into the ark.
Genesis 8:10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent
forth the dove out of the ark;
Genesis 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in
her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters
were abated from off the earth.
Genesis 8:12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the
dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
Genesis 8:13 AND IT CAME TO PASS IN THE SIX
HUNDREDTH AND FIRST YEAR, IN THE FIRST MONTH, THE
FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH, THE WATERS WERE DRIED UP
FROM OFF THE EARTH: and Noah removed the covering of the
ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.
Genesis 8:14 AND IN THE SECOND MONTH, ON THE SEVEN
AND TWENTIETH DAY OF THE MONTH, WAS THE EARTH
DRIED.
Genesis 8:15 AND GOD SPAKE UNTO NOAH, SAYING,
Genesis 8:16 GO FORTH OF THE ARK, THOU, AND THY WIFE,
AND THY SONS, AND THY SONS' WIVES WITH THEE.
Genesis 8:17 BRING FORTH WITH THEE EVERY LIVING
THING THAT IS WITH THEE, OF ALL FLESH, BOTH OF
FOWL, AND OF CATTLE, AND OF EVERY CREEPING THING
THAT CREEPETH UPON THE EARTH; THAT THEY MAY
BREED ABUNDANTLY IN THE EARTH, AND BE FRUITFUL,
AND MULTIPLY UPON THE EARTH.
Genesis 8:18 AND NOAH WENT FORTH, AND HIS SONS, AND
HIS WIFE, AND HIS SONS' WIVES WITH HIM:
Genesis 8:19 EVERY BEAST, EVERY CREEPING THING, AND
EVERY FOWL, AND WHATSOEVER CREEPETH UPON THE
EARTH, AFTER THEIR KINDS, WENT FORTH OUT OF THE
ARK.
Genesis 8:20 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of
every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings
on the altar.
Genesis 8:21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said
in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake;
for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I
again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
Genesis 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and
cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not
cease

Well known today:
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All of this has become so firmly established in accepted scientific fact
that even Grolier's encyclopedia (Academic American encyclopedia)
now readily admits it. Under the heading "Divisions of the Old
Testament" it states: "The Pentateuch is based on four principal
sources. The oldest, J, was perhaps written in Judah, the southern
kingdom, about 950 BC. Between 900 and 750, another version from
Israel, the northern kingdom, was woven in; this is called EPHRAIM
(E). In the 7th century BC, Deuteronomy, or most of it (D), was
compiled. About 550 BC, during the exile, the final edition of the
Torah added a priestly source (P), some parts of which are very old".


Mr. Richard Elliot Friedman is a professor on the faculty of the
University of California, San Diego. He earned his Doctorate in
Hebrew Bible at Harvard University. He is one of many scholars who
have attempted to critically study these "source" documents of the
"five books of Moses" in order to arrive at the identity of the authors,
the time period when each was written, the motives for writing each
narrative, and other information. In his book "Who wrote the Bible",
Prof. Friedman presents strong evidence that each "source document"
was written by a person or persons who, while on the face of it seem
to narrate the same stories, in actuality had distinctly different goals
they wished to achieve.

According to Mr. Friedman's research, each source emphasizes a
certain branch of the Jews, their nobility, birth right, and closeness to
God. Sometimes at the price of other branches of the Jews. For
instance, J was written by descendants of Judah, E came from
descendants of Israel, and P was written by a priest from the
descendants of Aaron. According to Mr. Friedman, the P (Priestly)
source seems to be particularly interested in priests, their lineage, their
being the only ones who are allowed to sacrifice to God, the
importance of sacrifice to God, and the surprising absence of all
stories wherein anyone not of their lineage made a sacrifice that was
accepted by God (for instance the sacrifice of the sons of Adam is
missing from this narrative). It also contains stories of how all those
who attempted to make sacrifices to God without the agency of an
Aaronid priest were killed by God.

The author goes on to show how in J and E we can find similar
emphasis on one tribe of the Jews over the other. For instance, on
pages 64-65 he shows how both the J and E documents attempt to
give the birthright of Jacob to their own forefathers. He also shows
how in the E version, Joseph is saved by his brother Ruben (the
firstborn of Israel), while in the J version it is Judah who saves him.
The author presents countless other proofs of these claims.

The JE texts emphasize the prophet (Moses). They depict Aaron as
having fashioned the golden calf. They also describe Aaron and his
sister Meriam as having criticized Moses and having been chastised by
God himself for this. They regularly have God saying "and Yahweh
said unto Moses....". The P document (written by Aaronid priests),
however, usually states: "and Yahweh said unto Moses and unto
Aaron.....". In this document, the staff Moses used to perform his
miracles is called "Aaron's staff". In the P document Aaron is also
named as the firstborn brother of Moses. Also, as mentioned
previously, in the P text no mention is made of any sacrifices to God
whatsoever until the last chapter of Exodus wherein we find the story
of Aaron's sacrifice when he was consecrated as high priest. After
that, all sacrifices are performed by Aaron and his sons. In other
words, the author of P gives no precedence for sacrifice for anyone
other than an Aaronid priest. There are even a couple of places in this
document which denigrate Moses (pbuh). They depicts Moses (pbuh)
as sinning and Aaron suffering for Moses's sin.


The rest of the books of the Jews:
---------------------------------------
Well, what about the rest of the Old Testament?. Are the remaining
books of the Old Testament known to have been preserved from
change since the time of their first writing and truly to be the words of
the claimed authors?. No!. Once again, Groliers encyclopedia tells
us: ".....Joshua tells of a thorough conquest of Canaan, but Judges
contains traditions of the Hebrew tribes in the period before the
monarchy that reveal the conquest as partial. The books of Samuel
are about the founding of the monarchy under SAUL and David and
contain a magnificent early source for the life of David, probably
written about 961-22 BC. ALL THE ABOVE BOOKS HAVE BEEN
EXTENSIVELY EDITED BY WRITERS WHO SHARED THE
THEOLOGY OF THE D SOURCE".

There is much more which could be said about these matters,
however, we will leave it up to the interested student to obtain a copy
of Mr. Freidman's book and read his comments. Fourteen hundred
years ago, back when it was a blasphemy of the highest order
punishable by death to dare allege that the claimed authors of the
Bible were not the true authors, e.g. that Moses (pbuh) did not write
the "books of Moses", the Qur'an was sent down upon Mohammad
(pbuh) by God almighty with the claim that "the people of the Book"
(Jews and Christians) had changed the book of God. Mohammad
(pbuh) further claimed that he was sent with the true religion of God
which was sent down upon Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them
all). The Jews and Christians responded that Muslims were ignorant
savages who had concocted their own religion by copying Judaism
and Christianity, and only an insane person would ever make such
allegations. We invite the reader to judge for themselves who was
telling the truth.


The books of the Christians:
----------------------------------
Is all of this restricted to the Old Testament?. No!. Christian scholars
today call the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, the "Synoptic"
(One eyed) Gospels. This is because they all seem to have had access
to a common source document they were working from when they
wrote their Gospels. This source document is called 'Q'. Now they
are beginning to recognize that the alleged authors are not the true
authors (see chapters 3.1, and 3.2). Similarly, countless verses of the
Gospel of John, as well as other historical discrepancies, also go to
show that John did not write the Gospel of John. Some scholars are
now beginning to suspect that 'Q' may indeed be the Gospel of
Barnabas. It is much larger than the others, by all measures it is an
authentic Gospel (see chapter 11), and it contains all of the stories
contained in these three Gospels without the contradictions found
therein.


"Of the Jews are those change words from their places and say: "We
hear (your words O Mohammad) and disobey; hear you as one who
hears not" and "give us concession" with a twist of their tongues and
as a mockery of religion(Islam). But if only they had said: "We hear
and we obey" and "Do make us understand" it would have been better
for them and more upright. But Allah has cursed them for their
disbelief, so they believe not, except a few". The Qur'an, Al-
Nissa(4):46.

"Then woe to those who write the book (of God) with their own
hands and then say: 'This is from Allah', to traffic with it for a
miserable price. Woe to them for what their hands do write and for
the gain they make thereby" The holy Qur'an Al-Bakarah(2):79

A different approach:
Specific contradictions in the books of the Jews:
---------------------------------------------------------
The following are pairs of verses which contradict one another in
the books of the Jews:

2 Samuel 8:4(7 HUNDRED horsemen)
1 Chronicles 18:4(7 THOUSAND horsemen)

1 Chronicles 21:12(THREE years famine)
2 Samuel 24:13(SEVEN years famine)

Deuteronomy 2:19 & Deuteronomy 2:37(Moses deprived land of
Ammon)
Joshua 13:24-25(Moses gives land of Ammon as inheritance)

2 Samuel 24:9(800,000+500,000)
1 Chronicles 21:5(1,100,000+470,000)

2 Chronicles 36:9(EIGHT years, three months +10 days)
2 Kings 24:8 (EIGHTEEN years, three months)

2 Samuel 10:18(700, 40,000 HORSEMEN)
1 Chronicles 19:18(7000, 40,000 FOOTMEN)

1 Kings 7:26(TWO thousand baths)
2 Chronicles 4:5(THREE thousand baths)

2 Samuel 6:23(Michal had NO children)
2 Samuel 21:8(Michal had FIVE sons)

Genesis6:3(mankind shall not live past 120 years)
Genesis 11:10-32 (500,438,433,464,...etc.)

2 Chronicles 9:25(4,000 stalls)
1 Kings 4:26(40,000 stalls)

Isaiah 40:28 (God does not FAINT nor WEARY)
Exodus 31:17 (God RESTED, and was REFRESHED.)

Genisis 1: (God creates Plants, THEN animals, THEN man and
woman.)
Genesis 2: (God creates man, THEN plants, THEN animals, THEN
woman)

Ezekiel 45 and Ezekiel 46 (DOCTRINES of offerings and sacrifices)
Numbers 28 and Numbers 29 (CONTRADICTORY DOCTRINES of
offerings and sacrifices)

1 Chronicles 8:29-38 (One list of NAMES)
1 Chronicles 9:35-44 (A CONTRADICTORY list of NAMES)

2 Samuel 5 and 2 Samuel 6 (David brought the ark AFTER fighting
the Philistines)
1 Samuel 13 and 1 Samuel 14 (David brought the ark BEFORE
fighting the Philistines)

Genesis 6:19-20 (Noah was to bring onto the ark "of EVERY living
thing of all flesh, TWO of EVERY sort shalt thou bring into the ark,
to keep them alive ....male and female....of fowls....of cattle....of every
creeping thing of the earth...").
Genesis 7:2-3 (Noah was to bring onto the ark "Of every CLEAN
beast thou shalt take to thee by SEVENS, the male and his female:
and of beasts that are NOT CLEAN by TWO, the male and his
female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the
female...").

2 Samuel 8:1 ("David took METHEGAMMAH out of the hand of
the Philistines").
1 Chronicles 18:1 ("David...took GATH and her towns out of the
hand of the Philistines").

2 Samuel 8:8 ("And from BETAH, and from BEROTHAI, cities of
Hadadezer, king David took exceeding much brass").
1 Chronicles 18:8 ("Likewise from TIBHATH, and from CHUN,
cities of Hadarezer, brought David very much brass").

2 Samuel 8:10 ("Then Toi sent JORAM his son unto king David")
1 Chronicles 18:10 ("He sent HADORAM his son to king David")

2 Samuel 8:12 ("Of SYRIA, and of Moab, and of the children of
Ammon, and of the Philistines, and of Amalek").
1 Chronicles 18:11 ("from EDOM, and from Moab, and from the
children of Ammon, and from the Philistines, and from Amalek.

2 Samuel 8:13 ("And David gat him a name when he returned from
smiting of the SYRIANS in the valley of salt, being eighteen thousand
men").
1 Chronicles 18:13 ("And he put garrisons in EDOM; and all the
EDOMITES became David's servants").

2 Samuel 8:17 ("and SERAIAH was the scribe")
1 Chronicles 18:16 ("and SHAVSHA was scribe")

1 Kings 15:33-16:6 ("In the THIRD year of Asa king of Judah began
Baasha the son Ahijah to reign over all Israel in Tirzah, TWENTY
FOUR years..... So Baasha slept with his fathers, and was BURIED
in Tirzah"). 3+24=27.
2 Chronicles 16:1 ("In the THIRTY SIXTH year of the reign of Asa,
Baasha king of Israel came up against Judah"). But he died in the
twenty seventh year!. Was he resurected?. So how did he invade
Judah 10 years after his death?.

Ezra 2:6 (2812)
Nehemiah 7:11 (2818)

Ezra 2:8 (945)
Nehemiah 7:13 (845)

Ezra 2:12 (1222)
Nehemiah 7:17 (2322)

Ezra 2:15 (454)
Nehemiah 7:20 (655)

Ezra 2:19 (223)
Nehemiah 7:22 (328)

Ezra 2:28 (223)
Nehemiah 7:32 (123)
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Look, an anti muslim thread, lets start the persecution, christards should know what that means.
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I saw some one bring this yesterday

the things written here are not written in the books

this is all lies again I will bring a example

You said

"Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast."


Talmud - Mas. Kethuboth 3b

What is [the reference to] shakedu? [For] it has been taught: Why did they say that a maiden is married on the fourth day? ‘Because if he had a claim as to virginity he could go early [next morning] to the court of justice. But let her be married on the first day in the week and if he had a claim as to virginity he could go early [on the morning of the second day in the week] to the court of justice? — The Sages watched over the interests of the daughters of Israel so that [the man] should prepare for the [wedding-]feast three days, the first day in the week, and the second day in the week, and the third day in the week, and on the fourth day he marries her. And from [the time of] danger and onwards the people made it a custom to marry on the third day and the Sages did not interfere with them. And on the second day [of the week] he shall not marry; and if on account of the constraint1 it is allowed. And one separates the bridegroom from the bride on the nights of Sabbath at the beginning,2 because he makes a wound.3

What [was the] danger? If I say that they4 said, ‘a maiden that gets married on the fourth day [of the week] shall be killed’, [then how state] ‘they made it a custom’? We should abolish it entirely! — Said Rabbah: [That] they said, ‘a maiden that gets married on the fourth day [of the week] shall have the first sexual intercourse with the prefect.’5 [You call] this danger? [Surely] this [is a case of] constraint!6 — Because there are chaste women who would rather surrender themselves to death and [thus] come to danger. But let one expound to them7 that [in a case of] constraint [it] is allowed?8 — There are loose women9 and there are also priestesses.10 But [then] let one abolish it?11 A decree12 is likely to cease, and [therefore] we do not abolish an ordinance of the Rabbis on account of a decree. If so, on the third day he [the prefect] would also come and have intercourse [with the bride]? — Out of doubt he does not move himself.13

[It is stated above:] ‘And on the second day [of the week] he shall not marry; and if on account of the constraint it is allowed.’ What constraint [is referred to]? Shall I say [that it is] that which we have said?14 There,15 one calls it ‘danger’ ‘and here, one calls it [mere] ‘constraint’! And further, there [it states], ‘they made it a custom’, [whilst] here, ‘it is allowed’!16 — Said Raba: [it is that] they say ‘a general has come to town.17 In what case? If he comes and passes by,18 let it be delayed!19 — It is not necessary [to state this but] that he came and stayed. Let him, [then], marry on the third day [of the week]!20 — His21 vanguard arrived on the third day. And if you wish I may say: What is [the meaning of] ‘on account of the constraint’? As it has been taught: If his bread was baked and his meat prepared and his wine mixed22 and the father of the bridegroom23 or the mother of the bride died,24 they bring the dead [person] into a room and the bridegroom and the bride into the bridal chamber,25
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(1) This will be explained anon.
(2) If it is her first marital union.
(3) By the first act of intercourse.



Nothing you quote here exists in the named books

The Talmud rarely mentions Christians at all

I is concerned with laws for Jews

wtf


stop your hate and lies

Hilkhoth Maakhaloth -- Christians are idolators, must not associate.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Do not associate with gentiles, they shed blood.

Iore Dea (153, 2). -- Must not associate with Christians, shed blood.

Abhodah Zarah (25b). -- Beware of Christians when walking abroad with them.

Orach Chaiim (20, 2). -- Christians disguise themselves to kill Jews.

Abhodah Zarah (15b) -- Suggest Christians have sex relations with animals.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals.

Schabbath (145b) -- Christians unclean because they eat accordingly

Abhodah Zarah (22b) -- Christians unclean because they not at Mount Sinai.

Iore Dea (198, 48). -- Clean female Jews contaminated meeting Christians.

Kerithuth (6b p. 78) -- Jews called men, Christians not called men.

Makkoth (7b) -- Innocent of murder if intent was to kill Christian.

Orach Chaiim(225, 10) -- Christians and animals grouped for comparisons.

Midrasch Talpioth 225 -- Christians created to minister to Jews always.

Orach Chaiim 57, 6a -- Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs.

Zohar II (64b) -- Christian idolators likened to cows and asses.

Kethuboth (110b). -- Psalmist compares Christians to unclean beasts.

Sanhedrin (74b). Tos. -- Sexual intercourse of Christian like that of beast.

Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.

Kidduschim (68a) -- Christians like the people of an ass.

Eben Haezar (44,8) -- Marriages between Christian and Jews null.

Zohar (II, 64b) -- Christian birth rate must be diminished materially.

Zohar (I, 28b) -- Christian idolators children of Eve's serpent.

Zohar (I, 131a) -- Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world.

Emek Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews' souls come from death and death's shadow.

Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) -- Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins.

Rosch Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews souls go down to hell.

Iore Dea (337, 1). -- Replace dead Christians like lost cow or ass.

Iebhammoth (61a) -- Jews called men, but not Christians called men.

Abhodah Zarah (14b) T -- Forbidden to sell religious works to Christians

Abhodah Zarah (78) -- Christian churches are places of idolatry.

Iore Dea (142, 10) -- Must keep far away physically from churches.

Iore Dea (142, 15) -- Must not listen to church music or look at idols

Iore Dea (143, 1) -- Must not rebuild homes destroyed near churches.

Hilkoth Abh. Zar (10b) -- Jews must not resell broken chalices to Christians.

Chullin (91b) -- Jews possess dignity even an angel cannot share.

Sanhedrin, 58b -- To strike Israelite like slapping face of God.

Chagigah, 15b -- A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits.

Gittin (62a) -- Jew stay away from Christian homes on holidays.

Choschen Ham. (26,1) -- Jew must not sue before a Christian judge or laws.

Choschen Ham (34,19) -- Christian or servant cannot become witnesses.

Iore Dea (112, 1). -- Avoid eating with Christians, breeds familiarity.

Abhodah Zarah (35b) -- Do not drink milk from a cow milked by Christian.

Iore dea (178, 1) -- Never imitate customs of Christians, even hair-comb.

Abhodah Zarah (72b) -- Wine touched by Christians must be thrown away.

Iore Dea (120, 1) -- Bought-dishes from Christians must be thrown away.

Abhodah Zarah (2a) -- For three days before Christian festivals, avoid all.

Abhodah Zarah (78c) -- Festivals of followers of Jesus regarded as idolatry.

Iore Dea (139, 1) -- Avoid things used by Christians in their worship.

Abhodah Zarah (14b) -- Forbidden to sell Christians articles for worship.

Iore Dea (151,1) H. -- Do not sell water to Christians articles for baptisms.

Abhodah Zarah (2a, 1) -- Do not trade with Christians on their feast days.

Abhodah Zarah (1,2) -- Now permitted to trade with Christians on such days.

Abhodah Zarah (2aT) -- Trade with Christians because they have money to pay.

Iore Dea (148, 5) -- If Christian is not devout, may send him gifts.

Hilkoth Akum (IX,2) -- Send gifts to Christians only if they are irreligious.

Iore Dea (81,7 Ha) -- Christian wet-nurses to be avoided because dangerous.

Iore Dea (153, 1 H) -- Christian nurse will lead children to heresy.

Iore Dea (155,1). -- Avoid Christian doctors not well known to neighbors.

Peaschim (25a) -- Avoid medical help from idolators, Christians meant.

Iore Dea (156,1) -- Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews.

Abhodah Zarah (26a). -- Avoid Christian midwives as dangerous when alone.

Zohar (1,25b) -- Those who do good to Christians never rise when dead.

Hilkoth Akum (X,6) -- Help needy Christians if it will promote peace.

Iore Dea (148, 12H) -- Hide hatred for Christians at their celebrations.

Abhodah Zarah (20a) -- Never praise Christians lest it be believed true.

Iore Dea (151,14) -- Not allowed to praise Christians to add to glory.

Hilkoth Akum (V, 12) -- Quote Scriptures to forbid mention of Christian god.

Iore Dea (146, 15) -- Refer to Christian religious articles with contempt.

Iore Dea (147,5) -- Deride Christian religious articles without wishes.

Hilkoth Akum (X,5) -- No gifts to Christians, gifts to converts.

Iore Dea (151,11) -- Gifts forbidden to Christians, encourages friendship.

Iore Dea (335,43) -- Exile for that Jew who sells farm to Christian.

Iore Dea (154,2) -- Forbidden to teach a trade to a Christian

Babha Bathra (54b) -- Christian property belongs to first person claiming.

Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Keep what Christian overpays in error.

Choschen Ham(226,1) -- Jew may keep lost property of Christian found by Jew.

Babha Kama (113b) -- It is permitted to deceive Christians.

Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Jews must divide what they overcharge Christians.

Choschen Ham(156,5) -- Jews must not take Christian customers from Jews.

Iore Dea (157,2) H -- May deceive Christians that believe Christian tenets.

Abhodah Zarah (54a) --Usury may be practiced upon Christians or apostates.

Iore Dea (159,1) -- Usury permitted now for any reason to Christians.

Babha Kama (113a) -- Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.

Babha Kama (113b) -- Name of God not profaned when lying to Christians.

Kallah (1b, p.18) -- Jew may perjure himself with a clear conscience.

Schabbouth Hag. (6d). -- Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.

Zohar (1,160a). -- Jews must always try to deceive Christians.

Iore Dea (158,1) -- Do not cure Christians unless it makes enemies.

Orach Cahiim (330,2) -- Do not assist Christian's childbirth on Saturday.

Choschen Ham.(425,5) -- Unless believes in Torah do not prevent his death.

Iore Dea (158,1) -- Christians not enemies must not be saved either.

Hilkkoth Akum (X,1) -- Do not save Christians in danger of death.

Choschen Ham(386,10) -- A spy may be killed even before he confesses.

Abhodah Zorah (26b) -- Apostates to be thrown into well, not rescued.

Choschen Ham(388,15) -- Kill those who give Israelites' money to Christians

Sanhedrin (59a) -- `Prying into Jews' "Law" to get death penalty

Hilkhoth Akum(X,2) -- Baptized Jews are to be put to death

Iore Dea(158,2)Hag. -- Kill renegades who turn to Christian rituals.

Choschen Ham(425,5) -- Those who do not believe in Torah are to be killed.

Hilkhoth tesch.III,8 -- Christians and others deny the "Law" of the Torah.

Zohar (I,25a) -- Christians are to be destroyed as idolators.

Zohar (II,19a) -- Captivity of Jews end when Christian princes die.

Zohar (I,219b) -- Princes of Christians are idolators, must die.

Obadiam -- When Rome is destroyed, Israel will be redeemed.

Abhodah Zarah(26b) T. -- "Even the best of the Goim should be killed."

Sepher Or Israel 177b -- If Jew kills Christian commits no sin.

Ialkut Simoni (245c) -- Shedding blood of impious offers sacrifice to God.

Zohar (II, 43a) -- Extermination of Christians necessary sacrifice.

Zohar (L,28b,39a) -- High place in heaven for those who kill idolators.

Hilkhoth Akum(X,1) -- Make no agreements and show no mercy to Christians

Hilkhoth Akum (X,1) -- Either turn them away from their idols or kill.

Hilkhoth Akum (X,7) -- Allow no idolators to remain where Jews are strong.

Choschen Ham(388,16) -- All contribute to expense of killing traitor.

Pesachim (49b) -- No need of prayers while beheading on Sabbath.

Schabbath (118a). -- Prayers to save from punishment of coming Messiah.
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Look, an anti muslim thread, lets start the persecution, christards should know what that means.


I need to visit you country sometime! Im in love with it
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You are welcome, lets hope it dosent rain here when its time.
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Trace the Black Stone of Mecca all the way back to Turkey/Rome where the Black Stone fell from heaven (Zeus)and became Diana/Cybele and Now Mary.


It is the great mother goddess's labia that they kiss in Mecca. The Moon Goddess.

[link to www.reformation.org]


Cybele worship was associated with a BLACK STONE or meteorite!!

Cybele worship was associated with a BLACK STONE or meteorite that had fallen from the sky:

The tower on Cybele's head is a reminder of the Tower of Babel—the scene of the first great apostasy after the great Flood of Noah.


"Varro states that the goddess was brought from a shrine called the Megalesion in the city of Pergamon while Ovid located the Mother's home on Mount Ida near the ancient city of Troy, which was under Pergamene control at that time. Livy seems to combine the two traditions in reporting that the Romans sought the help of the Pergamene king Attalos I in obtaining the goddess from Pessinous. Precisely what the Romans obtained is described in several sources: it was a small dark sacred stone not formed into any iconographic image, that had fallen to the shrine of Pessinous from the sky."(Roller, In Search of God the Mother, p. 265).

This MAGIC STONE has not been found in any of the excavations of the city of Rome!!

Finding this "LOST" black stone would be one of the greatest archeological discoveries of ALL time:

The sanctuary was used until the fifth century A.D. The historian Zosimus narrates the story of Serena, daughter of Theodosius the Great, and wife of his minister, the Vandal Stilicho. She went into the temple, removed a beautiful necklace from the statue and hung it around her own neck. The last remaining Vestal Virgin, an old woman, happened to be in the temple, and courageously reprimanded Serena, pointing out the sacrilegious nature of her action.
The excavation of this temple, which began as far back as 1872, has not yet brought to light the black meteorite. In fact this sacred place and its surroundings have never been thoroughly examined, although the 1952 excavations have brought some issues closer to a solution, such as the Attis question. (Vermaseren, Cybele and Attis, p. 43).

Cybele's BLACK STONE is at MECCA!

The missing BLACK STONE is now at Mecca and continues to be worshipped by millions of people.

The BLACK STONE of Cybele at Mecca.


The diabolical story of how Islam was founded by the Vatican is told here.

The magic stone was brought from Rome to Mecca and set up for the Arabs to worship.

About 100 years after the founding of Islam, huge Arab armies conquered North Africa and in 711 were "invited" to invade Spain.

They never left until 1492 —the same year Pope Alexander VI bought the Papacy, and Columbus sailed for the island of Santo Domingo.

800 years of war with the Moslem Moors produced the merciless, cruel, bigoted Spanish Inquisition and the Borgia crime family which gave the New World to Spain.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


The Pope Kissing The Qu'ran
[link to www.deceptioninthechurch.com]

How the Vatican created Islam
[link to www.redicecreations.com]

The Islamic Connection
This topic has puzzled numerous expositors. How does Islam fit into the picture of global conflict? Is this a political, religious, or religio-political conflict? What is its origin and what are its goals? How does it impact on ecumenism and on the doctrine of salvation in Christ? Find out in this informative video. A clear line is drawn through history, showing that the reality is more startling than the theory.


When thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Isaiah 26:9

"Exposing Those Who Contradict"
[link to bible-truths.com]

"For as in Adam ALL die, so also in the Messiah will ALL be made alive."
[link to www.tentmaker.org]
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I saw some one bring this yesterday

the things written here are not written in the books

this is all lies again I will bring a example

You said

"Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast."


Talmud - Mas. Kethuboth 3b

What is [the reference to] shakedu? [For] it has been taught: Why did they say that a maiden is married on the fourth day? ‘Because if he had a claim as to virginity he could go early [next morning] to the court of justice. But let her be married on the first day in the week and if he had a claim as to virginity he could go early [on the morning of the second day in the week] to the court of justice? — The Sages watched over the interests of the daughters of Israel so that [the man] should prepare for the [wedding-]feast three days, the first day in the week, and the second day in the week, and the third day in the week, and on the fourth day he marries her. And from [the time of] danger and onwards the people made it a custom to marry on the third day and the Sages did not interfere with them. And on the second day [of the week] he shall not marry; and if on account of the constraint1 it is allowed. And one separates the bridegroom from the bride on the nights of Sabbath at the beginning,2 because he makes a wound.3

What [was the] danger? If I say that they4 said, ‘a maiden that gets married on the fourth day [of the week] shall be killed’, [then how state] ‘they made it a custom’? We should abolish it entirely! — Said Rabbah: [That] they said, ‘a maiden that gets married on the fourth day [of the week] shall have the first sexual intercourse with the prefect.’5 [You call] this danger? [Surely] this [is a case of] constraint!6 — Because there are chaste women who would rather surrender themselves to death and [thus] come to danger. But let one expound to them7 that [in a case of] constraint [it] is allowed?8 — There are loose women9 and there are also priestesses.10 But [then] let one abolish it?11 A decree12 is likely to cease, and [therefore] we do not abolish an ordinance of the Rabbis on account of a decree. If so, on the third day he [the prefect] would also come and have intercourse [with the bride]? — Out of doubt he does not move himself.13

[It is stated above:] ‘And on the second day [of the week] he shall not marry; and if on account of the constraint it is allowed.’ What constraint [is referred to]? Shall I say [that it is] that which we have said?14 There,15 one calls it ‘danger’ ‘and here, one calls it [mere] ‘constraint’! And further, there [it states], ‘they made it a custom’, [whilst] here, ‘it is allowed’!16 — Said Raba: [it is that] they say ‘a general has come to town.17 In what case? If he comes and passes by,18 let it be delayed!19 — It is not necessary [to state this but] that he came and stayed. Let him, [then], marry on the third day [of the week]!20 — His21 vanguard arrived on the third day. And if you wish I may say: What is [the meaning of] ‘on account of the constraint’? As it has been taught: If his bread was baked and his meat prepared and his wine mixed22 and the father of the bridegroom23 or the mother of the bride died,24 they bring the dead [person] into a room and the bridegroom and the bride into the bridal chamber,25
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(1) This will be explained anon.
(2) If it is her first marital union.
(3) By the first act of intercourse.



Nothing you quote here exists in the named books

The Talmud rarely mentions Christians at all

I is concerned with laws for Jews

wtf


stop your hate and lies


Hilkhoth Maakhaloth -- Christians are idolators, must not associate.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Do not associate with gentiles, they shed blood.

Iore Dea (153, 2). -- Must not associate with Christians, shed blood.

Abhodah Zarah (25b). -- Beware of Christians when walking abroad with them.

Orach Chaiim (20, 2). -- Christians disguise themselves to kill Jews.

Abhodah Zarah (15b) -- Suggest Christians have sex relations with animals.

Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals.

Schabbath (145b) -- Christians unclean because they eat accordingly

Abhodah Zarah (22b) -- Christians unclean because they not at Mount Sinai.

Iore Dea (198, 48). -- Clean female Jews contaminated meeting Christians.

Kerithuth (6b p. 78) -- Jews called men, Christians not called men.

Makkoth (7b) -- Innocent of murder if intent was to kill Christian.

Orach Chaiim(225, 10) -- Christians and animals grouped for comparisons.

Midrasch Talpioth 225 -- Christians created to minister to Jews always.

Orach Chaiim 57, 6a -- Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs.

Zohar II (64b) -- Christian idolators likened to cows and asses.

Kethuboth (110b). -- Psalmist compares Christians to unclean beasts.

Sanhedrin (74b). Tos. -- Sexual intercourse of Christian like that of beast.

Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.

Kidduschim (68a) -- Christians like the people of an ass.

Eben Haezar (44,8) -- Marriages between Christian and Jews null.

Zohar (II, 64b) -- Christian birth rate must be diminished materially.

Zohar (I, 28b) -- Christian idolators children of Eve's serpent.

Zohar (I, 131a) -- Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world.

Emek Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews' souls come from death and death's shadow.

Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) -- Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins.

Rosch Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews souls go down to hell.

Iore Dea (337, 1). -- Replace dead Christians like lost cow or ass.

Iebhammoth (61a) -- Jews called men, but not Christians called men.

Abhodah Zarah (14b) T -- Forbidden to sell religious works to Christians

Abhodah Zarah (78) -- Christian churches are places of idolatry.

Iore Dea (142, 10) -- Must keep far away physically from churches.

Iore Dea (142, 15) -- Must not listen to church music or look at idols

Iore Dea (143, 1) -- Must not rebuild homes destroyed near churches.

Hilkoth Abh. Zar (10b) -- Jews must not resell broken chalices to Christians.

Chullin (91b) -- Jews possess dignity even an angel cannot share.

Sanhedrin, 58b -- To strike Israelite like slapping face of God.

Chagigah, 15b -- A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits.

Gittin (62a) -- Jew stay away from Christian homes on holidays.

Choschen Ham. (26,1) -- Jew must not sue before a Christian judge or laws.

Choschen Ham (34,19) -- Christian or servant cannot become witnesses.

Iore Dea (112, 1). -- Avoid eating with Christians, breeds familiarity.

Abhodah Zarah (35b) -- Do not drink milk from a cow milked by Christian.

Iore dea (178, 1) -- Never imitate customs of Christians, even hair-comb.

Abhodah Zarah (72b) -- Wine touched by Christians must be thrown away.

Iore Dea (120, 1) -- Bought-dishes from Christians must be thrown away.

Abhodah Zarah (2a) -- For three days before Christian festivals, avoid all.

Abhodah Zarah (78c) -- Festivals of followers of Jesus regarded as idolatry.

Iore Dea (139, 1) -- Avoid things used by Christians in their worship.

Abhodah Zarah (14b) -- Forbidden to sell Christians articles for worship.

Iore Dea (151,1) H. -- Do not sell water to Christians articles for baptisms.

Abhodah Zarah (2a, 1) -- Do not trade with Christians on their feast days.

Abhodah Zarah (1,2) -- Now permitted to trade with Christians on such days.

Abhodah Zarah (2aT) -- Trade with Christians because they have money to pay.

Iore Dea (148, 5) -- If Christian is not devout, may send him gifts.

Hilkoth Akum (IX,2) -- Send gifts to Christians only if they are irreligious.

Iore Dea (81,7 Ha) -- Christian wet-nurses to be avoided because dangerous.

Iore Dea (153, 1 H) -- Christian nurse will lead children to heresy.

Iore Dea (155,1). -- Avoid Christian doctors not well known to neighbors.

Peaschim (25a) -- Avoid medical help from idolators, Christians meant.

Iore Dea (156,1) -- Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews.

Abhodah Zarah (26a). -- Avoid Christian midwives as dangerous when alone.

Zohar (1,25b) -- Those who do good to Christians never rise when dead.

Hilkoth Akum (X,6) -- Help needy Christians if it will promote peace.

Iore Dea (148, 12H) -- Hide hatred for Christians at their celebrations.

Abhodah Zarah (20a) -- Never praise Christians lest it be believed true.

Iore Dea (151,14) -- Not allowed to praise Christians to add to glory.

Hilkoth Akum (V, 12) -- Quote Scriptures to forbid mention of Christian god.

Iore Dea (146, 15) -- Refer to Christian religious articles with contempt.

Iore Dea (147,5) -- Deride Christian religious articles without wishes.

Hilkoth Akum (X,5) -- No gifts to Christians, gifts to converts.

Iore Dea (151,11) -- Gifts forbidden to Christians, encourages friendship.

Iore Dea (335,43) -- Exile for that Jew who sells farm to Christian.

Iore Dea (154,2) -- Forbidden to teach a trade to a Christian

Babha Bathra (54b) -- Christian property belongs to first person claiming.

Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Keep what Christian overpays in error.

Choschen Ham(226,1) -- Jew may keep lost property of Christian found by Jew.

Babha Kama (113b) -- It is permitted to deceive Christians.

Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Jews must divide what they overcharge Christians.

Choschen Ham(156,5) -- Jews must not take Christian customers from Jews.

Iore Dea (157,2) H -- May deceive Christians that believe Christian tenets.

Abhodah Zarah (54a) --Usury may be practiced upon Christians or apostates.

Iore Dea (159,1) -- Usury permitted now for any reason to Christians.

Babha Kama (113a) -- Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.

Babha Kama (113b) -- Name of God not profaned when lying to Christians.

Kallah (1b, p.18) -- Jew may perjure himself with a clear conscience.

Schabbouth Hag. (6d). -- Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.

Zohar (1,160a). -- Jews must always try to deceive Christians.

Iore Dea (158,1) -- Do not cure Christians unless it makes enemies.

Orach Cahiim (330,2) -- Do not assist Christian's childbirth on Saturday.

Choschen Ham.(425,5) -- Unless believes in Torah do not prevent his death.

Iore Dea (158,1) -- Christians not enemies must not be saved either.

Hilkkoth Akum (X,1) -- Do not save Christians in danger of death.

Choschen Ham(386,10) -- A spy may be killed even before he confesses.

Abhodah Zorah (26b) -- Apostates to be thrown into well, not rescued.

Choschen Ham(388,15) -- Kill those who give Israelites' money to Christians

Sanhedrin (59a) -- `Prying into Jews' "Law" to get death penalty

Hilkhoth Akum(X,2) -- Baptized Jews are to be put to death

Iore Dea(158,2)Hag. -- Kill renegades who turn to Christian rituals.

Choschen Ham(425,5) -- Those who do not believe in Torah are to be killed.

Hilkhoth tesch.III,8 -- Christians and others deny the "Law" of the Torah.

Zohar (I,25a) -- Christians are to be destroyed as idolators.

Zohar (II,19a) -- Captivity of Jews end when Christian princes die.

Zohar (I,219b) -- Princes of Christians are idolators, must die.

Obadiam -- When Rome is destroyed, Israel will be redeemed.

Abhodah Zarah(26b) T. -- "Even the best of the Goim should be killed."

Sepher Or Israel 177b -- If Jew kills Christian commits no sin.

Ialkut Simoni (245c) -- Shedding blood of impious offers sacrifice to God.

Zohar (II, 43a) -- Extermination of Christians necessary sacrifice.

Zohar (L,28b,39a) -- High place in heaven for those who kill idolators.

Hilkhoth Akum(X,1) -- Make no agreements and show no mercy to Christians

Hilkhoth Akum (X,1) -- Either turn them away from their idols or kill.

Hilkhoth Akum (X,7) -- Allow no idolators to remain where Jews are strong.

Choschen Ham(388,16) -- All contribute to expense of killing traitor.

Pesachim (49b) -- No need of prayers while beheading on Sabbath.

Schabbath (118a). -- Prayers to save from punishment of coming Messiah.

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really you liar

is not your talmoud says that Jews are above all other humans and that humans are like animals except Jews !!!

Is not tell to kill al those disbilievers

get the shit outa here mothefucker
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Peace in the middle east and the larger world cannot be made when such seeds of hate are inbreed within the text of the Koran and the Islamic world. 57 or so Moslem nations representing over 1 Billion inhabitants of this earth subscribe to this. They inculcate this hatred into their media (TV, Movies, Drama’s, Magazines, newspapers , newscasts , childrens books and cartoons) what chance is there to build a bridge with such intolerance and hatred.? How many Christians practice their religion publicly in Mecca ?

None, It is illegal to do so on the penalty of death. Why is this ?

Why is there such hatred of Christians and Jews by Islamic people ?

The answers to these questions are found in the the text of the Koran itself

Listed here are Koranic verses which are the foundation for these beliefs (prejudice).

The Quran, virtually on every page, is a manifesto for religious intolerance. – Sam Harris

It is these beliefs that fuels organizations as Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran

The Islamic Jihad movement. Take them seriously as they take these teachings seriously.

This is no joke.

If you doubt the accuracy …just copy and paste the subsection eg Qur’an 4:160 to your web brower.

Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Qur’an (5:51) - ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

Qur’an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have “invented a tremendous sin.”

Qur’an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.

Qur’an (5:51) Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.” Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur’an (3:85) - ”And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

. Qur’an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

Qur’an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.

Qur’an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.

Qur’an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.

Qur’an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Qur’an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.

Qur’an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.

Qur’an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.

Qur’an 19:35-37“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.

Qur’an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?

Qur’an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?

Ishaq:364 “Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.”

Qur’an 3:67 ”Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.”

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

THERE ARE ALOT MORE

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Most of these verses are taken out of context. And many of them say that violence is to be met with violence and never to be instigated. There are 1.3 billion Muslims living in the world. They are not killing "disbelievers". Since the Prophet's time there have been non-muslims living under muslim rule and they have been treated with respect and lived peacefully. Dont bring up that whole Jizya thing...it is a tax imposed on non-Muslims since they do not join in the armies and since they pay NO OTHER tax (Muslims have to pay Zakat while Christains have to pay Jizya). It is assholes like yourself who try to inspire hatred amongst people. you are crazy evil and greedy and I hope no one here takes your BS to mind.
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If these verses are out of context why dont you show us
the truth ?


Since the Prophet's time there have been non-muslims living under muslim rule and they have been treated with respect and lived peacefully.

not in this world


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2010.06.06 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 11 At least one person is killed by a Taliban roadside attack.
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2010.06.05 Pakistan Khyber 2 0 Two passersby are killed in a shootout between rival Islamist groups.
2010.06.05 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two politicians are assassinated by Muslim terrorists in separate attacks.
2010.06.05 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 15 Muslim terrorists set off a bicycle bomb in front of a Red Cross office, killing a bystander.
2010.06.04 Pakistan Miranshah 1 0 A civilian is captured by the Taliban and shot to death.
2010.06.04 Iraq Missan 2 2 Two Iraqis are killed when Muslim radicals rocket an airport.
2010.06.04 Iraq Mosul 2 4 Terrorsts murder two civilians with a roadside bomb.
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2010.06.03 Somalia Mogadishu 2 5 Two Uganadan peacekeepers are murdered by al-Shabaab terrorists.
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2010.06.03 Iraq Abu Ghraib 8 0 Eight victims of a Shiite death squad are found in a mass grave.
2010.06.02 Iraq Abu Ghraib 1 3 A Jihad bomb blast leaves one Iraqi dead.
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2010.05.31 Pakistan Quetta 2 0 A prayer leader and his companion are murdered by sectarian rivals.
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2010.05.29 Pakistan Lahore 3 1 Three police officers are cut down by Islamic gunmen at a checkpoint.
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2010.05.28 Pakistan Quetta 4 0 Lashkar-e-Jhangvi gunmen take down four policemen at point-blank range.
2010.05.27 Pakistan Bajur 3 1 A married couple and their son are brutally gunned down in their home by Islamic fundamentalists.
2010.05.27 Iraq Mosul 1 11 Mujahid gun down a civilian and mortar a factory, woulding eleven people.
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2010.05.26 Thailand Yala 2 52 Islamic militants set off a bomb in front of a car dealership, killing two people.
2010.05.26 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three policemen are murdered by Mujahideen.
2010.05.26 Somalia Mogadishu 6 20 Six people are counted dead following an al-Shabaab militia attack around a city square.
2010.05.26 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 Terrorists murder a lawyer outside a courthouse with a grenade.
2010.05.25 Philippines Talipao 3 3 Three members of a family are blown apart, when Abu Sayyaf members throw a grenade into their home.
2010.05.25 Iraq Baghdad 15 3 al-Qaeda radicals gundown fifteen people working at a gold market.
2010.05.24 Afghanistan Faryab 1 2 Taliban terrorists assassinate an Afghan elder and peace advocate.
2010.05.24 Afghanistan Farah 5 8 Five civilians riding a bus are blown to bits by Taliban bombers.
2010.05.24 Afghanistan Khost 6 0 Six residents of a small village are shot to death in cold blood by Islamic fundamentalists.
2010.05.24 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An elderly woman is murdered inside her home by Mujahideen.
2010.05.24 Iraq Ramadi 1 0 Jihadis kill a young man with a bomb planted outside his kitchen.
2010.05.24 Pakistan Quetta 2 15 Women and children are among the casualties when Sunni bombers target a Shia scholar.
2010.05.24 Iraq Mosul 2 1 Religious extremists assassinate a secular lawmaker and his driver.
2010.05.23 India Sopore 1 0 Islamic militants are suspected in the murder of a local official.
2010.05.23 Nigeria Jos 2 0 Two Christians are hacked to death with machetes by passing Muslims.
2010.05.22 Pakistan FATA 1 0 A tribesman, abducted the Taliban, is found dead.
2010.05.22 Russia Prokladnyi 3 0 Two women and one man are gunned down in cold blood by suspected Islamic insurgents.
2010.05.22 Pakistan Baizai 1 3 A member of a peace committee is murdered in an Islamist ambush.
2010.05.22 Somalia Mogadishu 20 55 Twenty civilians are crushed and dismembered during an Islamic mortar attack.
2010.05.22 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two civilians are shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
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2010.05.22 Iraq Mosul 2 4 Two Iraqis are taken out in a bomb blast.
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2010.05.21 Somalia Mogadishu 3 5 Three civilians are killed during an al-Shabaab attack.
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look so many holy text quoters :)


i say fuck religion, it hasnt given mankind anything good.
It doesn't take a genius to see that the world has problems.

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Look, an anti muslim thread, lets start the persecution, christards should know what that means.


I need to visit you country sometime! Im in love with it
hf
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I hope all conflict of all people ends soon


My wife was born in India
I think thats no so far from your country
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AT LEAST ONE OF THESE IS A COMPLETE FABRICATION.

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.


REAL VERSE

002.065
YUSUFALI: And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."

002.066
YUSUFALI: So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.


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YOU NEED TO FUCKING LIE TO MAKE YOUR POINT?

PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE HOW MUCH LYING THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING.

THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT RESEARCHED THIER OWN POSTING, AND THEY WOULD LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE LIES.

WHY DON'T YOU EVEN RESEARCH YOUR OWN POSTING OP?

YOU CUT AND PASTE FABRICATIONS FROM SOME HATE SITE AND PASS THEM OFF AS TRUTH, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.


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I heard a interesting story a couple days ago from a Rabbi

who was born in Iran.


He said this is something few know :

He said one of the proofs of the Divine origin of the Koran

is that Mahmoud was illiterate , so God must have written it.



He said the Jews of the Iran community have a tradition

that Mahmoud threw a Rabbi down in a pit and forced him to

write the Koran for him, or he would let him die.
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I saw some one bring this yesterday

the things written here are not written in the books

this is all lies again I will bring a example

You said

"Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast."


Talmud - Mas. Kethuboth 3b

What is [the reference to] shakedu? [For] it has been taught: Why did they say that a maiden is married on the fourth day? ‘Because if he had a claim as to virginity he could go early [next morning] to the court of justice. But let her be married on the first day in the week and if he had a claim as to virginity he could go early [on the morning of the second day in the week] to the court of justice? — The Sages watched over the interests of the daughters of Israel so that [the man] should prepare for the [wedding-]feast three days, the first day in the week, and the second day in the week, and the third day in the week, and on the fourth day he marries her. And from [the time of] danger and onwards the people made it a custom to marry on the third day and the Sages did not interfere with them. And on the second day [of the week] he shall not marry; and if on account of the constraint1 it is allowed. And one separates the bridegroom from the bride on the nights of Sabbath at the beginning,2 because he makes a wound.3

What [was the] danger? If I say that they4 said, ‘a maiden that gets married on the fourth day [of the week] shall be killed’, [then how state] ‘they made it a custom’? We should abolish it entirely! — Said Rabbah: [That] they said, ‘a maiden that gets married on the fourth day [of the week] shall have the first sexual intercourse with the prefect.’5 [You call] this danger? [Surely] this [is a case of] constraint!6 — Because there are chaste women who would rather surrender themselves to death and [thus] come to danger. But let one expound to them7 that [in a case of] constraint [it] is allowed?8 — There are loose women9 and there are also priestesses.10 But [then] let one abolish it?11 A decree12 is likely to cease, and [therefore] we do not abolish an ordinance of the Rabbis on account of a decree. If so, on the third day he [the prefect] would also come and have intercourse [with the bride]? — Out of doubt he does not move himself.13

[It is stated above:] ‘And on the second day [of the week] he shall not marry; and if on account of the constraint it is allowed.’ What constraint [is referred to]? Shall I say [that it is] that which we have said?14 There,15 one calls it ‘danger’ ‘and here, one calls it [mere] ‘constraint’! And further, there [it states], ‘they made it a custom’, [whilst] here, ‘it is allowed’!16 — Said Raba: [it is that] they say ‘a general has come to town.17 In what case? If he comes and passes by,18 let it be delayed!19 — It is not necessary [to state this but] that he came and stayed. Let him, [then], marry on the third day [of the week]!20 — His21 vanguard arrived on the third day. And if you wish I may say: What is [the meaning of] ‘on account of the constraint’? As it has been taught: If his bread was baked and his meat prepared and his wine mixed22 and the father of the bridegroom23 or the mother of the bride died,24 they bring the dead [person] into a room and the bridegroom and the bride into the bridal chamber,25
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(1) This will be explained anon.
(2) If it is her first marital union.
(3) By the first act of intercourse.



Nothing you quote here exists in the named books

The Talmud rarely mentions Christians at all

I is concerned with laws for Jews

wtf


stop your hate and lies







really you liar

is not your talmoud says that Jews are above all other humans and that humans are like animals except Jews !!!

Is not tell to kill al those disbilievers

get the shit outa here mothefucker
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990383



"mothefucker"

why do you hate so much

You Islamic ?

You never read Talmud

All the lies you bring are not I Talmud, like I

Proved above

Jews have been the pursued throught the generations not

the pursuer

by hate mongers like you

I told you the Talmud deals with Religious laws for Jews

Christians are barely mentioned at all

It is a book for and about jews
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AT LEAST ONE OF THESE IS A COMPLETE FABRICATION.

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.


REAL VERSE

002.065
YUSUFALI: And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."

002.066
YUSUFALI: So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.


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YOU NEED TO FUCKING LIE TO MAKE YOUR POINT?

PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE HOW MUCH LYING THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING.

THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT RESEARCHED THIER OWN POSTING, AND THEY WOULD LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE LIES.

WHY DON'T YOU EVEN RESEARCH YOUR OWN POSTING OP?

YOU CUT AND PASTE FABRICATIONS FROM SOME HATE SITE AND PASS THEM OFF AS TRUTH, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

 Quoting: Sallam




Dont know what your talking about this is discussed all over the net

I4vi: People become apes

In suras 2:65-66 and 7:163-167, Allah turns certain fishing people who break the Jewish sabbath into apes for their disobedience. Had Darwin read the Qur'an, his theory on evolution may have parallelled "Planet of the Apes" rather then the other way around.


[link to www.biblestudymanuals.net]

check what your self

this is in the koran

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.
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Is not your Torah claim that you Jews are above all other humans


Get your shit out of here you criminal


Where exactly in the Torah you read this? Reference, please.

Shameless lair..
 Quoting: me777



He means the Talmud.
And he is correct.
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Most of these verses are taken out of context. And many of them say that violence is to be met with violence and never to be instigated. There are 1.3 billion Muslims living in the world. They are not killing "disbelievers". Since the Prophet's time there have been non-muslims living under muslim rule and they have been treated with respect and lived peacefully. Dont bring up that whole Jizya thing...it is a tax imposed on non-Muslims since they do not join in the armies and since they pay NO OTHER tax (Muslims have to pay Zakat while Christains have to pay Jizya). It is assholes like yourself who try to inspire hatred amongst people. you are crazy evil and greedy and I hope no one here takes your BS to mind.
 Quoting: ethendil





Hamas quotes Koran in their charter

Article 7: “The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”" [Page 4]

These verses are the foundations of Jihad Philosophy

Killing all non believers

like

Danial Pearl

Remember they chopped that reporters head off

what did he do ?
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Is not your Torah claim that you Jews are above all other humans


Get your shit out of here you criminal


Where exactly in the Torah you read this? Reference, please.

Shameless lair..



He means the Talmud.
And he is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991081



It does not

only in your lies

you post

they are not in the

Talmud

Talmud is Jewish Religious law
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Dont know what your talking about this is discussed all over the net

I4vi: People become apes

In suras 2:65-66 and 7:163-167, Allah turns certain fishing people who break the Jewish sabbath into apes for their disobedience. Had Darwin read the Qur'an, his theory on evolution may have parallelled "Planet of the Apes" rather then the other way around.


[link to www.biblestudymanuals.net]

check what your self

this is in the koran

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 997765



AGAIN YOU ARE FABRICATING A VERSE FROM THE QURAN.

2:65-66 SAYS NOTHING ABOUT "DISFIGURING FACES", NOR ABOUT "TURNING PEOPLE INTO APES".

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It says about a particular people - (those that transgressed the Sabbath) - "Fine be like Apes then!"

IT DOES NOT SAY THAT GOD DISFIGURED THEIR FACES OR TURNED THEM INTO APES.

Interestingly enough, - WHAT DO "MODERN DAY" SCIENCE MINDED PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THEIR ORIGINS???

They believe they descended from apes.

Western society ITSELF now says that people are like apes, they want to reject God and believe that they are glorified apes...

See the wisdom of the Quran.

You are twisting and distorting, and have added words into a Quranic verse that are not there.


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You want to cut up the Quran and take things out of context, fine, but DO NOT FABRICATE.
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Is not your Torah claim that you Jews are above all other humans


Get your shit out of here you criminal


Where exactly in the Torah you read this? Reference, please.

Shameless lair..



He means the Talmud.
And he is correct.



It does not

only in your lies

you post

they are not in the

Talmud

Talmud is Jewish Religious law
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 997765



Here is what the Talmud and Torah sources really says about

about Non Jews


“a Gentile who studies Torah is like a High Priest.”
(Talmud sanhedrin)


Elijah the Prophet teaches in Tana D’vei Eliyahu, (Eliyahu Rabbah 9)

that a Gentile like a Jew can receive Ruach HaKodesh

(The Holy Spirit) in accordance to his/her actions.


[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]

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