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BE PREPARED!!! THE ULTIMATE THREAD FOR AN UNDERGROUND SHELTER AND BUNKER. CONTRIBUTE YOUR OWN IDEAS AND EXPERIENCES.

 
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BE PREPARED!!! THE ULTIMATE THREAD FOR AN UNDERGROUND SHELTER AND BUNKER. CONTRIBUTE YOUR OWN IDEAS AND EXPERIENCES.
There wasnt a decent thread on here about this so here goes.
If your on this site I dont need to explain all the reasons we might need an underground shelter/bunker but heres a few. Planet X effects, climate/earth changes, drough/famine, earthquakes, asteroids, disease, war and any effects that may be coming our way. Im going to try not to get into what to have there and just the principle.
The main things to consider at first are your BUDGET and your LOCATION. And ofcourse, constructing to your county code. ;)

These are some general points to the concept:
•As deep underground as possible to protect from radiation, flying projectiles and debris. The mammals from cicxulub survived under just a couple feet of soil but I would prefer atleast 10ft. Consider you psi according to depth and your structure.
•Outside of areas known to be flood prone, including areas within the 100 year flood plain. Really consider your geographical location.
•The bunker should be placed so that people have a short route to the entrance/exit.
•Away from any potential debris field and its emergency exits and air inlets can be extended on several sides of the building into zones that are free from debris and fire.
•The bunker should have as much of its external walls against the ground as possible for protection from heat and for support provided by the surrounding soil.
•Away from flammable materials, vehicles and hazardous materials. Anything that would indicate you have been there.
•Away from large objects and multi-story buildings, light poles, antennas, satellite dishes or roof mounted mechanical equipment.
•The bunker should be made easily concealed. A hidden entrance with a incline/decline tunnel to the actual shelter so they couldnt flood or smoke you out.

Here are some good links starting with the most expensive:

These are expensive but protect from a wide variety of elements. Additional extras add up quick.
[link to www.hardenedstructures.com] - pre fab finished in about a week. Under your house. +/-

These are cool but not my first pic. They are like UFO's made of steel and concrete and are somewhat transportable. [link to www.usbunkers.com]

These are the cadillac of shelters. Utah systems come with everything from filtration to plumbing. Ready to drop in the ground. [link to www.disastershelters.net]

These are basically indestructable boxes you put in room and just hide it out. I wouldnt suggest this for anything but a all natural disaster. [link to www.safeguardshelters.com]

Here is a list of potential underground bunkers. Some will need more preperation then others to be fit. Sandblasting, welding, reinforcement, etc. Additional weatherproof lining like truck bed liner.

* Empty missle silo- 3' thick epoxy resin formulated concrete reinforced with stainless steel mesh. It would be a DEEP invesment.
* Steel cargo containers-(You can find one used for about 1000 dollars if you look. These can withstand pressure from all sides are probably your best bet. People are renovating these to "go green" and use as living quarters across the world. Link- [link to www.google.com]
* Empty school bus shell- Cheap but not as dependable. Make sure you get a city ordinance bus that has increased rigidity. If you pinched you could have one of these finished for about 2,000 dollars. If for some reason you havent heard of the Ark Two Community in Canada. It has a 10,000 sq/ft nuclear shelter as part of its refuge facility. This may be the largest Privately Constructed nuclear fallout shelter in the world. 42 buses were used as forms to pour a minimum of 12 inches of high strength concrete that was heavily reinforced with rebar. A minimum of 5 feet to a maximum of 14 feet of earth was pushed back overtop. On the other hand. I have heard of a guy doing this and it collapsed the minute he finished.
* Empty liquid tankers- Cheap. Has built in ladder. Not to hard to connect them.

I did this forum earlier and It was alot more extensive but my computer froze so I had to re do it. My eyes are hurting and I know I missed some key stuff so feel free to critique.
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Uh
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
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Go simple.

Mike Oehler

[link to www.undergroundhousing.com]

Needs to be in the mountains though, lower elevations will be subject to the tsunamis.
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what about www.rhinovault.com. I hear they are very professional.
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[link to www.rhinovault.com]
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Riker did a thread about this.

Can't believe it was 6 months ago...

Thread: ********WHO IS BUILDING AN UNDERGROUND SHELTER? 2012 IS COMING!!!! *******
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Bend over.

Put your head between your knees.

Kiss your ass goodbye...
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sigh
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Thanks for the ideas!
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This would be a lot easier if we actually new how deep the effects would go, and exactly what will happen. Are we talking earthquakes, meteorites and comets, solar flares, or "just" an EMP (or some)? Too bad the last people who went through this weren't able to leave good enough specific records to last over 5000 years.
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Thanks OP. There is very little on glp about this important subject. Heck, even Trinity has made preps underground - [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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too dramatic for me.
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Good stuff
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Go simple.

Mike Oehler

[link to www.undergroundhousing.com]

Needs to be in the mountains though, lower elevations will be subject to the tsunamis.
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Yes, I heard those are actually very energy efficient.
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
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Good for your possesions.
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
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Broke asses can buy a shovel, Dig a 4 foot deep hole 12*12
come in 2 ft and dig down 8 more feet to total 12 feet depth in the center.

Line the top with 12 ft logs and dirt to return to the original ground height allow an camouflaged cover- entrance tunnel and a cook fire hole opposite the entrance.

This design is Native American Lokata I believe. and a great place to hide in a tornado, bomb drill, Eventually one must come out of hiding to Eat.It is also a cozy foxhole.
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Broke asses can buy a shovel, Dig a 4 foot deep hole 12*12
come in 2 ft and dig down 8 more feet to total 12 feet depth in the center.

Line the top with 12 ft logs and dirt to return to the original ground height allow an camouflaged cover- entrance tunnel and a cook fire hole opposite the entrance.

This design is Native American Lokata I believe. and a great place to hide in a tornado, bomb drill, Eventually one must come out of hiding to Eat.It is also a cozy foxhole.
 Quoting: nrg 989174

Not bad for an impromt gig. I like how it can be hidden and blended. I cant say this enough, CONCEAL CONCEAL CONCEAL!!!! I dont care if your in a million dollar bunker. If the right people or forces know your in there, its bad news.

Last Edited by 90 Liter Lion on 06/11/2010 05:50 PM
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