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!!!!!!VERY GRAPHIC CASES !!!!!DOES ANTIDEPRESSANT MEDS TURN PEOPLE INTO ??????????????

 
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I was on Zoloft for a while for anxiety/depression...was having suicidal thoughts after a while...I was going thru a very hard time with my marriage...

...ended up quitting zoloft for a few years...then got a divorce...more anxiety etc...now I am on Effexor...

I havent' had a problem with it, however, I don't want to be addicted to it anymore simply because i don't want to feed the big pharma monster...

...I think mj probably would help me more...that and exercise...and of course diet (which I am pretty good about)
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Amen brother, see if you can get off the pills and hit up the mj, diet, exercise, and "beach" visualization to get the anxiety down. The pills are no good, been there done that, wish I hadn't. They are terrible for your liver and brain wiring. Rebound effect is worse than the original depression. Dangerous stuff. Best of luck to you.
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I started taking prozac after my son died against my husband's wishes, he kept insisting - "Your kid's dead, your supposed to be depressed." I didn't listen.

A few months later I got sick and had a surgery go awry leaving me bedridden for six months and on a second anti-depressant, elavil.

As I recovered things got very strange - I had some damn odd thoughts, not concerned with hurting others, but this strange idea that if I died myself it really wouldn't hurt any of those people that loved me. It's still very hard to explain that period of time, but my thinking was like a free pass on suicide.

Luckily, I didn't kill myself and weaned off the drugs. I think, as several has already stated, that we have come to believe that life should be butterflies and rainbows all the time. As another poster stated, I do think that often times depression is just a little nudge to let you know you're off track.

I came to the conclusion, if life sucks, change it. And if it all sucks, change it all - which is what I did.
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I felt like that on zoloft...I felt my kids would be better off without me...I was just a lil grain of sand in the world and meant nothing..it felt hopeless.

I think I was having a nervous breakdown at the time and needed more dr care but I was afraid of being labeled as crazy lol. Something needed to be adjusted.

My hair was falling out, i was losing weight, i would cry for hours every day, couldnt eat, could barely sleep...it was terrible.

Yes something in RL triggered this, I wont get into what did though...now looking back the zoloft wasnt helping.
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The worst part about these antidepressant drugs is that the doctors also prescribe them to children.
I have to say that any parent, who agrees to put one of their children on any of these anti depressant drugs, should have their children taken away from them.
I had a depressed child when he was around 9 years old, who threatened to kill us, when we were sleeping.
I did not put him on anti depressants. Instead I had the school psychiatrist talk to him, and then my husband and I sat down and talked to him. We also spent a lot of time with him and helped him to realize that he didn't have to deal with those feelings all by himself.
He is now a grown man, who is a father of two young boys and they are very well behaved, happy children (for the most part). He also has primary custody of them, and works hard so that he can pay his mortgage, and keep his family clothed and fed.

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I dont even WANT to go there with that crap...both my kids were labeled as ADD in school...

I never medicated them...
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My ex-father-in-law was shot but unfortunately not killed by a guy on Prozac...

The Standard Gravure shooting occurred on September 14, 1989 when 47-year old Joseph T. Wesbecker, a pressman on disability for mental illness entered Standard Gravure, his former workplace, and killed eight people and injured twelve before committing suicide after a history of suicidal ideation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]



Relief. Thanks for sharing, People are oddly quiet on this subject, Im going to keep this post alive, More should know and be aware.


One could argue that it's not the Meds...that the meds simply delayed the inevitable...They were fucked up in the head already, see?
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thats kinda what i was thinking
maybe the fact they are all on meds means they have psychological problems to begin with

however,

in one of my attempts to quit smoking, they put me on Champix which has also been used as an 'anti-depressant'

i stopped taking it after about a month it was turning me into a pissed off psycho

i didn't kill anyone but i sure felt like it

woke up angry and pissed off every day and didn't know why:

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In November 2007, the FDA announced it had received post-marketing reports that patients using Chantix for smoking cessation had experienced several serious symptoms, including suicidal ideation and occasional suicidal behavior, erratic behavior, and drowsiness. On February 1, 2008 the FDA issued an Alert to further clarify its findings, noting that "it appears increasingly likely that there is an association between Chantix and serious neuropsychiatric symptoms." It is unknown whether the psychiatric symptoms are related to the drug or to nicotine withdrawal symptoms, although not all patients had stopped smoking. The FDA also recommended that health care professionals and patients watch for behavioral and mood changes.[7] In May 2008, Pfizer updated the safety information associated with Chantix, noting that "some patients have reported changes in behavior, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions." [8]

The Institute for Safe Medication Practices (ISMP) conducted an analysis of post-marketing adverse effects reports received by the FDA. According to this analysis, in the fourth quarter of 2007 varenicline accounted for more reports of serious side effects than any other drug. Suicidal acts and ideation, psychosis, and hostility or aggression, including homicidal ideation, were the most prominent psychiatric side effects. Multiple reports suggested that varenicline may be related to the loss of glycemic control and new onset of diabetes, heart rhythm disturbances, skin reactions, vision disturbances, seizures, abnormal muscle spasms and other movement disorders. ISMP noted that the reports do not establish causality and only identify potential causes, and concluded that further research and a priority review of the data by the FDA is necessary.[9]

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The worst part about these antidepressant drugs is that the doctors also prescribe them to children.
I have to say that any parent, who agrees to put one of their children on any of these anti depressant drugs, should have their children taken away from them.
I had a depressed child when he was around 9 years old, who threatened to kill us, when we were sleeping.
I did not put him on anti depressants. Instead I had the school psychiatrist talk to him, and then my husband and I sat down and talked to him. We also spent a lot of time with him and helped him to realize that he didn't have to deal with those feelings all by himself.
He is now a grown man, who is a father of two young boys and they are very well behaved, happy children (for the most part). He also has primary custody of them, and works hard so that he can pay his mortgage, and keep his family clothed and fed.

 Quoting: Lisakitty

You and your husband were wise parents. I totally agree that a parent under no circumstances should give child these harmful pychiatric drugs.
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This message has been edited by peagee on Apr 5, 2005 1:14 PM
This message has been edited by peagee on Mar 24, 2005 1:47 PM

Does this mean the list is only up until those dates?!? So, there's been a whole mess more since then?!?! Wow. Even if I'm wrong, it's still horrendous.
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The worst part about these antidepressant drugs is that the doctors also prescribe them to children.
I have to say that any parent, who agrees to put one of their children on any of these anti depressant drugs, should have their children taken away from them.
I had a depressed child when he was around 9 years old, who threatened to kill us, when we were sleeping.
I did not put him on anti depressants. Instead I had the school psychiatrist talk to him, and then my husband and I sat down and talked to him. We also spent a lot of time with him and helped him to realize that he didn't have to deal with those feelings all by himself.
He is now a grown man, who is a father of two young boys and they are very well behaved, happy children (for the most part). He also has primary custody of them, and works hard so that he can pay his mortgage, and keep his family clothed and fed.

 Quoting: Lisakitty


Yup, it's pure evil how they push these toxic carcinogenic, mind-altering chemicals on children WHILE THEIR MINDS AND BRAINS ARE STILL DEVELOPING! INSANITY! Common sense is ignored. Big pharma control the med schools and brainwash the MD's. I've had converted doctors themselves tell me that off the record. It's pure evil. Same with vaccines, they are cancer jabs and offer no protection, only immune damage. Doctors are only good for setting a broken bone or burn trauma...NOTHING ELSE. Convention "medicine" is NOT a profession, it's a business, and that's all it is. The Rockefeller evil pricks own ALL the big pharma companies, please watch this clip.

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I tried to kill myself while on anti depressants , I believe about 8 times. Ive been doa ,coded, then dead for a few minutes, have had my stomach pumped for overdosing on pills, woke up during it was not fun, (I took 120 pills)..
You name it I tried it to take myself out. My friends tell me Im a cat cept im now on my last life, which I feel they are correct.
After that 3 year period of hell , I took myself off all 5 meds they had me on, and havent tried suicide since. The sad part is my brain is sooo tired now, I have a real hard time being happy,responsible, just about anything normal.
While I often wish one of my attempts would have worked, I cant bring myself to do it again.
So my point is, I guess if I have one, is even those who make it off of meds, still pay a price. My ex wife planned on telling the judge about my suicide attempts in the past when we went to divorce court if I contested visitation etc so I just let her have her way. Haven't seen my kids in 2 years, I guess they are better off.
My heart goes out to the people on meds and their families and friends.
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...Oh I totally forgot to add this...

During that period of my life, I was visiting my sister and she took me to a homeopathic doc who said my adrenal glands were working overtime (makes sense with anxiety)...he had me buy this stuff called "Calm"...all it is is magnesium...

It really did help...

Here's a link...its not that expensive.

[link to www.calmnatural.com]
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I tried to kill myself while on anti depressants , I believe about 8 times. Ive been doa ,coded, then dead for a few minutes, have had my stomach pumped for overdosing on pills, woke up during it was not fun, (I took 120 pills)..
You name it I tried it to take myself out. My friends tell me Im a cat cept im now on my last life, which I feel they are correct.
After that 3 year period of hell , I took myself off all 5 meds they had me on, and havent tried suicide since. The sad part is my brain is sooo tired now, I have a real hard time being happy,responsible, just about anything normal.
While I often wish one of my attempts would have worked, I cant bring myself to do it again.
So my point is, I guess if I have one, is even those who make it off of meds, still pay a price. My ex wife planned on telling the judge about my suicide attempts in the past when we went to divorce court if I contested visitation etc so I just let her have her way. Haven't seen my kids in 2 years, I guess they are better off.
My heart goes out to the people on meds and their families and friends.
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Oh man *hugs*...

I was afraid of this during my period of the same thing...afraid my ex would take my kids away...so I didn't seek more help from docs or talk to counselors...was terrible to go through.
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My ex-father-in-law was shot but unfortunately not killed by a guy on Prozac...

The Standard Gravure shooting occurred on September 14, 1989 when 47-year old Joseph T. Wesbecker, a pressman on disability for mental illness entered Standard Gravure, his former workplace, and killed eight people and injured twelve before committing suicide after a history of suicidal ideation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]



Relief. Thanks for sharing, People are oddly quiet on this subject, Im going to keep this post alive, More should know and be aware.


One could argue that it's not the Meds...that the meds simply delayed the inevitable...They were fucked up in the head already, see?


thats kinda what i was thinking
maybe the fact they are all on meds means they have psychological problems to begin with

however,

in one of my attempts to quit smoking, they put me on Champix which has also been used as an 'anti-depressant'

i stopped taking it after about a month it was turning me into a pissed off psycho

i didn't kill anyone but i sure felt like it

woke up angry and pissed off every day and didn't know why:

---

In November 2007, the FDA announced it had received post-marketing reports that patients using Chantix for smoking cessation had experienced several serious symptoms, including suicidal ideation and occasional suicidal behavior, erratic behavior, and drowsiness. On February 1, 2008 the FDA issued an Alert to further clarify its findings, noting that "it appears increasingly likely that there is an association between Chantix and serious neuropsychiatric symptoms." It is unknown whether the psychiatric symptoms are related to the drug or to nicotine withdrawal symptoms, although not all patients had stopped smoking. The FDA also recommended that health care professionals and patients watch for behavioral and mood changes.[7] In May 2008, Pfizer updated the safety information associated with Chantix, noting that "some patients have reported changes in behavior, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions." [8]

The Institute for Safe Medication Practices (ISMP) conducted an analysis of post-marketing adverse effects reports received by the FDA. According to this analysis, in the fourth quarter of 2007 varenicline accounted for more reports of serious side effects than any other drug. Suicidal acts and ideation, psychosis, and hostility or aggression, including homicidal ideation, were the most prominent psychiatric side effects. Multiple reports suggested that varenicline may be related to the loss of glycemic control and new onset of diabetes, heart rhythm disturbances, skin reactions, vision disturbances, seizures, abnormal muscle spasms and other movement disorders. ISMP noted that the reports do not establish causality and only identify potential causes, and concluded that further research and a priority review of the data by the FDA is necessary.[9]
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Youre right man, from depressed to psycho. These meds will do it.
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One could argue that it's not the Meds...that the meds simply delayed the inevitable...They were fucked up in the head already, see?


One could argue quite effectively that it's a side effect of our fucked up society, to be considered sane and well adjusted to this monstrosity is worrisome, period.

I certainly hope for you your boys don't get diagnosed somewhere down the line and put on these meds, you'd change your mind right quick.


I wouldn't allow it...NO Meds...I would look into these people's childhoods and the influences of their parents, for their mental instability...
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT


It's not always influences of parents or long term mental instability. I was prescribed SSRIs after my baby daughter died and I was finding it difficult to cope. The doctor assured me that these 'new' anti depressants weren't addictive but didn't explain the medical term of addiction.

Medically you are only considered addicted if you need to keep increasing the dose. I stayed on the same dose but couldn't stop taking them because of physical side effects similar to having had a stroke. I was one of the lucky ones and weened myself off of them very, very slowly.

They didn't make me violent. The problem was they made me totally numb so I didn't feel anything at all and I suppose that might be why people suddenly become violent. They don't feel any remorse or care.... they don't feel anything at all.

I had a very happy childhood and NEVER thought I'd ever need any kind of anti depressant. My reasons, at the time, were genuine because the death of a child is something I hope not too many people ever have to experience. Some people deal with it without anti depressants, I know, but I wasn't one of them. For me it was the difference between living or dying myself. I feel as though I'm trying to justify my reasoning because I do feel weak that I ever took them. I do know I will never take them again and I have only seen my doctor once in the past 6 years for something completely unrelated.
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Think of it like this.

Were all Ants leading down the garden path, but occasionally one of us strays from the colony and into the field. Someone outside the line of Ants then medicates us back up so we trundle back along the line of Ants again without question.

Now I ask who is the crazy one? the Ant which left the line, or the person who drugged them up..WHY did they drug them up?, what is the purpose of this?, especially when that Ants mind was solely focused on becoming a individual it was forced against its will to conform and its now medicated and confused to go against its will.

Medication is the root of all evil, not "mental illness", there is no such evil in being a individual, only being condemned for being so.
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to ac 1036317
~very sorry about your loss :( f*&^ man Im soo sorry.

same here, I originally went to the Mental health clinic because i *thought* I had depression lol After getting on meds I found out what depression really is.
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Think of it like this.

Were all Ants leading down the garden path, but occasionally one of us strays from the colony and into the field. Someone outside the line of Ants then medicates us back up so we trundle back along the line of Ants again without question.

Now I ask who is the crazy one? the Ant which left the line, or the person who drugged them up..WHY did they drug them up?, what is the purpose of this?, especially when that Ants mind was solely focused on becoming a individual it was forced against its will to conform and its now medicated and confused to go against its will.

Medication is the root of all evil, not "mental illness", there is no such evil in being a individual, only being condemned for being so.
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the crazies are the ones in line to begin with silly
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doesnt it make sense that the people who would need anti despdessants because they are depressed would obviously be more likely to commit a crime?
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doesnt it make sense that the people who would need anti despdessants because they are depressed would obviously be more likely to commit a crime?
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I really hope that was sarcasm.
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All they need is love, da da da da da
All they need is love, love
Love is all they need
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All they need is love, da da da da da
All they need is love, love
Love is all they need
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:) cheers
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doesnt it make sense that the people who would need anti despdessants because they are depressed would obviously be more likely to commit a crime?
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I guess the logical part of the mind would explain it to you like that, but I really dont think that is the case. I think of it like the person was depressed and cared enough to go TRY to get some kind of help or balance, so they were trying to live a normal life, and normal life usually doesn't involve crime. But then again I live in a country where there is like 5000 laws or something so pretty much every one breaks the law daily regardless of mental state.
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It's clear as daylight what is going on, isn't it.
At least where I live.

Around here,
the Pol-ice busts kids for cannabis,
then send them to the social authorities,
who then in turn send them to the A-clinic,
which hands out pills like they were candy.
Closed system.
Works like a charm.

The amount of young zombies (let alone the older ones)
walking around with that empty look is growing rapidly.

People just do not get it...they think the good herb is dangerous,
while heavy narcotics are not - if they come in nice packages with
the right brands on them.

People (especially children) sense, deep inside but with inevitable,
dead sure human intuition, that neither the foundations nor the goals
of society are what they are being told.
No, wait, it's even simpler than that:
Any retard understands that there cannot be eternal growth in a
finite space.
Hence the obvious mental/emotional anguish...

So they get tired an confused, doctors call it "burn-out" and prescribe
pills.
You have to prove you are taking them, or lose all benefits.

Politicians were talking about "mandatory mental health evaluation
and medication for schoolchildren in the 6th to 9th grade all across
the EU" a few years back. Haven't heard anything about it lately, but...
yikes.

Free the Herb!

bonghit

Fire fe Babylon!!

bonghit

*cough*
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It's clear as daylight what is going on, isn't it.
At least where I live.

Around here,
the Pol-ice busts kids for cannabis,
then send them to the social authorities,
who then in turn send them to the A-clinic,
which hands out pills like they were candy.
Closed system.
Works like a charm.

The amount of young zombies (let alone the older ones)
walking around with that empty look is growing rapidly.

People just do not get it...they think the good herb is dangerous,
while heavy narcotics are not - if they come in nice packages with
the right brands on them.

People (especially children) sense, deep inside but with inevitable,
dead sure human intuition, that neither the foundations nor the goals
of society are what they are being told.
No, wait, it's even simpler than that:
Any retard understands that there cannot be eternal growth in a
finite space.
Hence the obvious mental/emotional anguish...

So they get tired an confused, doctors call it "burn-out" and prescribe
pills.
You have to prove you are taking them, or lose all benefits.

Politicians were talking about "mandatory mental health evaluation
and medication for schoolchildren in the 6th to 9th grade all across
the EU" a few years back. Haven't heard anything about it lately, but...
yikes.

Free the Herb!

bonghit

Fire fe Babylon!!

bonghit

*cough*
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 767025


Aye...

It's ass backwards everywhere then...
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Every murderous psycho should be googled by everyone later on, Find out if they were on these meds. And in interviews by family, they will say they were never like this before the meds, Depressed maybe, but not psycho and not the type to snap and kill.
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Thanks for the thread OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am also stunned by the close relationship the assailant has to many of the victims in these cases-very sad!!!!!!!! bump
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antidepressants should be banned or only prescribed in serious situations, not for every single person that thinks they might have anxiety
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I had a bit of an anxiety problem because i'd been out of work and spent too much time inside, and I was starting work so I asked the doctor for something to help me a little

I was instantly prescribed (no prior history) 100mg of sertaline zoloft which I got the generic xydep of,

I cant say I enjoyed it, I cant say I hated it
thats because it stripped out every emotion I ever had..

at first...


I add weight to the argument regarding hostilities, because after the initial effect wore off in some months, I became a very focused very driven torrent of hostility, I never hurt anyone. happyly I kept to myself..

first thing I noticed was I became very good at first person shooter and general combat games, such perfect focus, single mindedness and nerves of steel.. a target was a target and nothing got in the way once it was deemed as such, every move every action calculated, pre thought.. and in such silence and calm thought, like a killing machine programmed to kill

and that was just in PC games.. older ones too not too realistic..

im very thankful that it didnt translate into real life as much as it has with others because I live a rather lonely life, at the time it was a very good thing

and all this because I asked a doctor could I be helped with the nerves and anxiety of starting a new job.... he didnt even review me.. few questions no history and I walked out with this stuff.. I learned the hard way

I kept to myself but I had to endure eventually having a 100% driven and acceptable urge to destroy, to simply delete.. remove someone who caused the slightest of problem.. in real life.. these are the thoughts that went through my head.. that I never acted on but in my mind it was pure logic,

there was no regret
there was no compassion, no love.. no care
I felt nothing.. and if I felt something it was hate, but it wasnt hate.. it just was the "right" thing to do.. as if it was part of a program, a directive.. I was simply doing the right thing

the rest of the spectrum of emotions, love, care.. happiness.. I had to act. fake.. in order to be normal because I never felt that

what snapped me out of it was, I found a nice girl.. someone who was loving and caring and affectionate but I found out that I couldn't feel much back.. I knew she was a nice girl, someone I could love.. but because of these tablets I couldn't.. I had to fake love fake the feeling.. act because the space between knowing I should be feeling something.. and actually doing it.. it was an empty void like someone cut the wires of love and care.. I knew my own personality.. but I no longer felt it.. the transmission was broken.. black.. not there

so I stopped taking them, and from what I read I was lucky.. i'd only been on them 6 months or less so maybe I wasn't intune with the side effects too much

if anything it was a very wonderful experience,
for me when I stopped taking them it was like being permanently drunk, I drove my scooter ok but.. cold sweats, shaking, lack of balance.. unable to eat much without being sick.. it truly knocked me around.. nasty stuff

whats wonderful about that?...

this.... emotion flooded back.. I became teary at the slightest sad thing on TV, teared up when something sad happened on tv, in games.. in life.. and actually opened upto the softer side of my soul some of which ive kept

emotions flooded back I haddent felt in almost 6 months
and I felt alive.. I still had side effects physical ones not emotional.. and it was a hell of a ride learning to deal with sadness or happiness again


but... I say this to anyone who thinks they cant live without that shit in them tablets

they kill.. or can kill.. either they kill you slowly
or you'll kill someone else


BE HUMAN!
get off the bloody things.. hell .. isolate yourself for a few months if you fear side effects.. I know friends who get overcome by a wave of negative darkness if they try.. I was lucky to only feel sadness and be normal again

but whatever the cost.. get off these bloody things.. and if you can do.. learn from others mistakes.. including mine

lifes a bitch of a thing.. ups and downs
but being a fucking robot and eventually a killing machine

that isnt life at all
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Wow, thanks for sharing your true life story !

I was with someone for many years,
in the first year of our relationship he was struggling to control his heavy drinking so the dr put him on zoloft.
Within 2 wks of taking that stuff he became a madman, literally,
he was paranoid, accusatory, argumentative.
One morning he insisted I had stolen money from his wallet and a great fight ensued, culminating with me locking myself in the bathroom to get away
and him breaking the door off the hinges and then STRANGLING me !
Thankfully I broke free, called the cops and he ran off !

I'm grateful no one was killed,
and I'm especially grateful that he STOPPED taking that shit right after this psychotic episode !


THESE MEDS ARE DANGEROUS and SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS !


Btw, that was the FIRST and LAST time he ever raised a hand to me in aggresion, ever.



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lifes a bitch of a thing.. ups and downs
but being a fucking robot and eventually a killing machine

that isnt life at all


Wow, thanks for sharing your true life story !

I was with someone for many years,
in the first year of our relationship he was struggling to control his heavy drinking so the dr put him on zoloft.
Within 2 wks of taking that stuff he became a madman, literally,
he was paranoid, accusatory, argumentative.
One morning he insisted I had stolen money from his wallet and a great fight ensued, culminating with me locking myself in the bathroom to get away
and him breaking the door off the hinges and then STRANGLING me !
Thankfully I broke free, called the cops and he ran off !

I'm grateful no one was killed,
and I'm especially grateful that he STOPPED taking that shit right after this psychotic episode !


THESE MEDS ARE DANGEROUS and SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS !


Btw, that was the FIRST and LAST time he ever raised a hand to me in aggresion, ever.



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SO sorry you guys had to go through this. I agree with your views, and also had a fiancee turn to a madman in a short time. He didn't make it. Shot himself.
I tried to tell hid Dad the meds caused his personality to change radically, no luck.
The doc told him they would help him be calm.
He got called in to a top-notch job the day of his funeral.
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Every murderous psycho should be googled by everyone later on, Find out if they were on these meds. And in interviews by family, they will say they were never like this before the meds, Depressed maybe, but not psycho and not the type to snap and kill.


Thanks for the thread OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am also stunned by the close relationship the assailant has to many of the victims in these cases-very sad!!!!!!!! bump
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These are crazy stories. And your right, All background must be checked. Then maybe a different judgement could be placed on them. LIke isolation and recovery. Its shocking to think medicines might have put people in prison who otherwise wouldnt have been there.

One recent case had a mother stab and eat her little baby, Yes, she ate her babies body parts.
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...Oh I totally forgot to add this...

During that period of my life, I was visiting my sister and she took me to a homeopathic doc who said my adrenal glands were working overtime (makes sense with anxiety)...he had me buy this stuff called "Calm"...all it is is magnesium...

It really did help...

Here's a link...its not that expensive.

[link to www.calmnatural.com]
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Hmm, Ill try that, thanks !
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One could argue that it's not the Meds...that the meds simply delayed the inevitable...They were fucked up in the head already, see?


One could argue quite effectively that it's a side effect of our fucked up society, to be considered sane and well adjusted to this monstrosity is worrisome, period.

I certainly hope for you your boys don't get diagnosed somewhere down the line and put on these meds, you'd change your mind right quick.


I wouldn't allow it...NO Meds...I would look into these people's childhoods and the influences of their parents, for their mental instability...
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Yep.
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