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!!!!!!VERY GRAPHIC CASES !!!!!DOES ANTIDEPRESSANT MEDS TURN PEOPLE INTO ??????????????

 
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poppycock!
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Complimenting this...

The brain evolves till far into your 20’s. most of its growth happens in puberty, but some final twitches are done till 25 or something. Docters in Holland have shown this through somekinda X-ray study of the brain.
If its still a growing “organ” I think any temporing by docters prematurely is an inaccurate science. Changing its “motor fluid” with pills might be the worst thing to do.
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True. Mental health facilities won't hire nurses under 25 because they can take on the personalities of the mental patients.
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I've seen what all these "medications" do to people, and it ain't good.
Grew up with a Mother that was yearly in the "hospital" for treatment, manic depression.
Thru the years, they pumped her and then my half brother, full of so much shit....it was hard to know what was the medication talking, and what was them.
Life was a constant roller coaster ride with them...moods shift in the blink of an eye.
All the crap never made either 1 any better.
I think the side effects they have on your body, is why my mother died at 63...hard on your heart, and other internal organs.
Even though I have had battles with bouts of depression, anxiety and panick attacks......I refuse to be medicated like they were.
I've learned to recognize when I need to change my thought patterns.....use weed every day to keep everything on an even keel.
I think I've already had a much better life than either of them ever did/have.
I've never had to be hospitalized, and for the most part, it now takes something very big , emotionally traumatic to throw me back down in the pit.
Sometimes it takes longer to climb back out...but I eventually get there.
At least I know my thoughts and feelings are my own...not a product of some foreign substance , playing hell with my brain chemistry.
I'm also not a walking zombie..
In all honesty, I believe this part of me is not such a bad thing.
Some of my greatest paintings/creations have come pouring out of me when I'm a bit "manic".
The weed lets me focus, and I get lost in what I'm doing, and these awesome things that are inside of me, come pouring out.
I know if I took those drugs to "level me out"...I would lose that part of me.
I'd rather keep the low spots, than lose that.
For all I know, the pain is also an influence on my art....you do need an emotional connection to what you are painting, for it to move other people.
Sometimes, I think everyone is just too scared of a bit of pain, a bit of darkness in their lives.
Too ready to pop a pill to kill the slightest discomfort.
It may not feel good at the moment, but it is an essential part of the "life experience", and a neccesary tool that we learn by, I think.

Society wanted to stick my son on Ritalin when he was in school...I refused to do it.
You'd be surpised how hard they push...try to make you feel like you are not being a good parent, because you don't want to give your child speed every day!
I thought it best that my son learn to control his own body, than be dependant on a drug to do it..knowing that he would have to stop taking it in the worst of times...the teenage years.
We went to Thai Chi classes together every week...and I used creative visualization to calm him down when he needed to be...had him close his eyes and took him to a calm and peaceful place.
I would also give him a cup of Chamomile Tea every morning, before school.
He did alright without all their drugs!
He graduated on time, never had any big problems at school, no violence, ever.
It took time for me to do those things though...took time out of my day, every day, for years.
Most parents either just don't have that kind of time because they are so busy trying to earn a living......or they don't have the stamina to be consistant , and follow thru.....it's easier to just give the kid a pill every day.

I hate all of the drugs on that list...because I've seen it, my whole life...and none of them ever truly do good, or heal anyone.
I think they should ALL be classified as "poisons", instead of "medications", or "drug therapy".
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Thank you for being a caring parent!! hf
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Barbara Mortenson aged 66 (Prozac) attacked her 81-year-old mother, biting her more than 20 times and leaving chunks of flesh strewn on the floor after being on prozac for two weeks.


Proof that these meds turn you into a zombie.
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Do the math. That woman's mother was 15 years old when she had her. Probably 14 when she got pregnant. Children trying to raise children. Wonder what their lives were like? Always check into the childhood of these people.
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...Oh I totally forgot to add this...

During that period of my life, I was visiting my sister and she took me to a homeopathic doc who said my adrenal glands were working overtime (makes sense with anxiety)...he had me buy this stuff called "Calm"...all it is is magnesium...

It really did help...

Here's a link...its not that expensive.

[link to www.calmnatural.com]



Hmm, Ill try that, thanks !
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Most people need magnesium. I take it and it stops my heart palpitations. You know when you have taken too much when you get diarrhea. No big deal. Just take a little less. For those who are constipated get magnesium oxide. It is cheap and works like a charm. It is not utilized by the body as well as other forms hence how it works for constipation but you will still get great benefits. Start with maybe 250 mg and go from there.
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...Oh I totally forgot to add this...

During that period of my life, I was visiting my sister and she took me to a homeopathic doc who said my adrenal glands were working overtime (makes sense with anxiety)...he had me buy this stuff called "Calm"...all it is is magnesium...

It really did help...

Here's a link...its not that expensive.

[link to www.calmnatural.com]



Hmm, Ill try that, thanks !



Most people need magnesium. I take it and it stops my heart palpitations. You know when you have taken too much when you get diarrhea. No big deal. Just take a little less. For those who are constipated get magnesium oxide. It is cheap and works like a charm. It is not utilized by the body as well as other forms hence how it works for constipation but you will still get great benefits. Start with maybe 250 mg and go from there.
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LOL I totally forgot about that benefit too...yes its true and it does regulate the heart as well....
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poppycock!
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You mean poppycorn, lol..(hence from your name)

Im going to bump this up. Spread awareness, This is real serious stuff !
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Is medication involved in this new case? We will have to wait and see, if that information is ever disclosed...

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I love Ryan Ehlis <3
He is my Dad :) and he will forever he a saint in my eyes.
I love you dad.
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I LOVE YOU DAD <3
My dad, Ryan Ehlis is my hero and the one i look up to.
God has taken him into his heart and forever in mine. I forgive you and i will never blame you for what happened to us Dad. I love you with all my heart. don't ever doubt it. You're a saint. <3
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I LOVE YOU DAD <3
My dad, Ryan Ehlis is my hero and the one i look up to.
God has taken him into his heart and forever in mine. I forgive you and i will never blame you for what happened to us Dad. I love you with all my heart. don't ever doubt it. You're a saint. <3
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Sorry user name is [Vanessa Ehlis]
Ryan Ehlis is my dad <3
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I've been saying this for years! The media's completely silent on this as is our Government. Big Pharma's got an extremely powerful lobby in washington and they don't want to lose a profit potential or open themselves up to litigation. This is a huge cover-up/conspiracy! Good post!
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I've been saying this for years! The media's completely silent on this as is our Government. Big Pharma's got an extremely powerful lobby in washington and they don't want to lose a profit potential or open themselves up to litigation. This is a huge cover-up/conspiracy! Good post!
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Thanks ! Scary stuff indeed.
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Ok guys, I'm having a big argument with my son about this.
He is claiming that benefit to risk is in favor of the meds.

I'm saying that if they make people kill others and themselves that the meds should be eliminated from production.

So, Are there a lot of unmedicated depressed people going on murderous rampages?
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Anyone have answers?
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Anyone have answers?
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GABA-
What Is GABA?

While neurons produce it naturally, a GABA supplement can help you experience the many benefits of GABA. Without getting too scientific, GABA is an important chemical within the human brain. It is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, and as such it serves the brain by regulating the firing of neurons.

Without gamma-aminobutyric acid, your muscles would be constantly tense, your mind would never stop racing, and your overall ability to function would be severely impaired. Gaba supplements can be taken to increase this valuable resource in your body.
The GABA Supplement Experience

The sensation that gamma-aminobutyric acid gives is unique, and unlike any other commercially available natural supplement or drug. The descriptions vary from individual to individual, but the overall consensus is that there is something very special about natural GABA supplements.
Additional Information

* Increase in the level of Human Growth Hormones (HGH)
* Induces relaxation and sleep
* Reduces muscle tension
* Reduces stress, anxiety and depression
* Promotes well being

GABA is produced in the human brain and functions as a balancer, maintains balance between the body and the mind in states of excitation. GABA supplement aids several complications including Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD, hypertension or HBP, obesity, insomnia, alcoholism and many more. It is also a great help in treating mental blocks.

GABA supplements are helpful for any active individuals, bodybuilders and athletes. They help in enhancing the body’s muscle mass, which is GABA’s conductive anabolic property and its lipotropic property helps in fat reduction and weight loss programs, simultaneously.

[link to www.gabasupplement.com]
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Anyone have answers?
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Doctors recently advised against young people taking anti depressants or taking it too long cause it does turn someone from a lethargic depressive state to a hyper violent state if built up too much
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Anyone have answers?
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Doctors recently advised against young people taking anti depressants or taking it too long cause it does turn someone from a lethargic depressive state to a hyper violent state if built up too much
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Depression Caused by Low GABA Rather Than Serotonin in Some

Read more at Suite101: Depression Caused by Low GABA Rather Than Serotonin in Some [link to www.suite101.com]
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Anyone have answers?
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Doctors recently advised against young people taking anti depressants or taking it too long cause it does turn someone from a lethargic depressive state to a hyper violent state if built up too much
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Depression Caused by Low GABA Rather Than Serotonin in Some

Read more at Suite101: Depression Caused by Low GABA Rather Than Serotonin in Some [link to www.suite101.com]
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Doctors may be closer to treating major depression in individuals who don't respond to selective-serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs) and selective-serotonin nor epinephrine re-uptake inhibitors (SSNRIs).

Medications prescribed to treat major depression are often those designed to increase the availability of serotonin, dopamine and/or nor epinephrine in the brain, neurotransmitters involved in a number of processes, including mood. Yet patients who don't respond to those classes of drugs may in fact have an imbalance in another key brain chemical, GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid).
Depression Not Always Due to Serotonin, Dopamine, Nor Epinephrine Imbalance

Major depression is a complex mood disorder that can be caused by a number of underlying and potentially intertwined biochemical and psychological factors. While some patients respond to serotonin therapies, for others, SSRI's don't improve their symptoms or can even make them worse.

Scientists in a study released in 2005, "Corelease of Dopamine and Serotonin from Striatal Dopamine Terminals" found that higher serotonin concentrations caused by SSRIs can "trick" transporters of another key neurotransmitter, dopamine, into retrieving serotonin into dopamine vesicles. This is referred to as "cosignaling" and can lead to a dangerous, even life threatening condition called serotonin syndrome.

In a March 2010 study published in Biological Psychiatry, co-authors Drs. Andrea J. Levinson and Zafiris J. Daskalakis of the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH) studied a group of brain chemicals involved in virtually all brain activity, the neurotransmitter GABA. In the study, individuals who were the least likely to respond well to prior depression treatments were also the ones with the lowest level of GABA in their brain.
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@OP - Yeah, suspecting anti-depressants. Used to be given ritalin as a child, but rejected it (turned me zombie-like and I knew it!), as for the anti-d, don't remember which kind, but that lasted only a few months before I rejected it as 'Dr Mario' medicine (just throw pills at it!) as it neither solved the problem (external - school bullying) and only made me feel bad. I went straight cold turkey, never had issues.
The thoughts that passed through me head were unlike anything I had every had before.
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Could you describe them or give me examples? I am curious as to what might be involved.
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It's given on purpose to say we are all crazy and shouldn't have guns so they can keep fucking us over and killing us and we can be labeled "crazy" because they want everyone on that shit.

i have adrenal problems (palpitations and such), and my quack gave me like a mountain of Zoloft Paxil and Klonipin. I threw it all int he garbage.
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While some patients respond to serotonin therapies, for others, SSRI's don't improve their symptoms or can even make them worse.
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Like I said, "Dr Mario Medicine". Just throw pills at it!
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i have adrenal problems (palpitations and such), and my quack gave me like a mountain of Zoloft Paxil and Klonipin. I threw it all int he garbage.
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If it's adrenal, it's probably a nutritional issue.

Don't see how anti-ds would solve the problem.
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It's given on purpose to say we are all crazy and shouldn't have guns so they can keep fucking us over and killing us and we can be labeled "crazy" because they want everyone on that shit.

i have adrenal problems (palpitations and such), and my quack gave me like a mountain of Zoloft Paxil and Klonipin. I threw it all int he garbage.
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Treatment for Adrenal Fatigue
GABA is Gamma-aminobutyric acid, a neurotransmitter and the cornerstone of the inhibitory (calming) system in the body; controlling the action of epinephrine, norepinephrine, and dopamine. GABA deficiency can be linked to anxiety disorders such as panic attacks, seizure disorders insomnia, weight gain, loss of libido, and numerous other conditions including addiction, headaches.

5-HTP
Serotonin is a neurotransmitter, or more correctly a neuromodulator, that is widely distributed throughout the brain and generally enhances GABA and therefore has inhibitory activity. Therefore, as a precursor to serotonin, 5-HTP can further increase the activity of GABA. Low serotonin levels are frequently an underlying component of many clinical conditions that are also related to GABA function, e.g. insomnia, depression, & anxiety.

L-Theanine

L-theanine is an amino acid found in green tea that produces a calming effect in the brain. It works by increasing gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) that is a relaxer and creates a sense of well-being. L-theanine may be taken to help modulate mood and relieve stress in many health conditions (Abe et al. 1995; Kobayashi et al. 1998; Juneja et al. 1999).

Licorice

Licorice (Glycyrrhiza) works by blocking the breakdown of hydrocortisone in the liver. the hydrocortisone level then becomes higher, and this slows down the production of ACTH (adrenocorticotrophic hormone) from the pituitary gland, giving the adrenals a much-needed rest. Licorice is a highly prized medicinal in Chinese medicine. Glycyrrhiza may be taken in a variety of ways, including as a tea. Licorice can the be tapered off when adrenal gland function is restored.

[link to www.gammaaminobutyricacidfatlossproduct.com]
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These are natural supplements you can buy, much cheaper than drugs, at a good health food store.
I'm not a salesperson. I have used GABA for 9 years, for me and my sons and it works.

Research your condition and use common sense. A natural supplement of something your body needs or is suffering a lack of vs a pharmaceutical that has at the most 51% efficacy (anti depressants per studies) and side effects that can be (in some cases) irreversible or fatal.
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Before you hire, before you get a new babysitter, before you get to know anyone ! ASK IF THEY ARE ON ANTI DEPRESSANTS, Im not having anyone on those meds anywhere near me. They could snap anytime.
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The problem is, your not going to know the ones at the park the store the bank, etc.
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I was prescribed EFFEXOR XL when I was a teenager for depression. They made me feel nothing! I wasn't up nor down just.. felt nothing.

I decided I didn't wan't to be popping pills for the rest of my life, so I gave myself a slap and came off them cold turkey! It was awful, I was twitchy and jumpy, cold sweats the lot!

10 years later and I'm fine, dealt with my demons my own way.

I understand how people feel when depressed but I don't understand how they just can't buck up and sort it out themselves with the aid of drugs.

xx em xx
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they CAN but they have to be able to control their environment.........not be around people that annoy them and piss them off and add to their stress so they can keep stress levels down and how many people can actually do that?

I have had some very bad experiences with pharma drugs.....

I would love to not take anti-depressants.......I take 1/2 the dosage......BUT I cry too much if I don't........like ALL THE TIME. Emotional wreck. I keep wondering though if it would be better to do that.......than take this shite.......I have taken all of them

PAXIL IS EVIL
The rest I had a reaction to.....except Celexa....it seems to work ok with me.......I guess.
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Teens raised on formula as babies should be supplement with fish oil and be watched on their diet. Think a car running without oil, Lack of DHA will cause a screwed up brain.


This fat free madness is hell on the body and mind. It's been substituted with trans-fats that break down the brain blood barrier and let toxins pass. The cholesterol myth leads doctors to prescribe statins that wreak havak. Check out spacedoc dot net. It might not take a rocket scientist to figure out, but a Nasa flight doc/astronaut does have a few things to say about it!



Yes, yes, eat eggs, eat the chicken skin, Supplement with fish oil, Eat fatty beef, You need this food !

Run your brain on DRY and your in big trouble, What do you think brain tissue is??.

YOU NEED NATURAL FATS !

It also protects the brain from the chemicals etc,, Remember, Like a car needs oil.
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EXCELLENT ADVICE!!

ADDITIONALLY, good ole tryptophan...FROM TURKEY which has the highest amount, but other meat proteins contain it as well, is one of THE BEST cures for Depression.

All the drugs on the market are formulated to assist your brain into converting the drugs INTO TRYPTOPHAN.

Why not just get it naturally and then no more psychotic side effects.

Whenever I'm feeling a little down, I make myself a turkey dinner--doesn't have to be a whole turkey just a leg or breast roasted in the oven will do. Works every time!
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I am a vegetarian for 13 years now and think you are all full of crap ol a.

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