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Anonymous Coward User ID: 759915 United States 06/13/2010 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, so far, of usable ideas, we have: Grab all of BP's financial value and properties until the "spill" is totally cleaned up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904454(I agree. I suggested this last week on this site as well. It makes sense, but would OBVIOUSLY only work for the American assets.) Torture, while tempting in our anger and distress, would not help anything. Nor would murder. We KNOW that BP did some things wrong. What we have to prove is that they knew it was wrong and would lead (at least possibly) to environmental damage. I think it is possible to make a case to that end. Though I do think instead of prison all of the executives involved should be on beach and ocean clean up until the work is done. Which should be about twenty to fifty years. Obama will not resign over this however and asking him too will just have any decent ideas you can come up with ignored. I'm not a supporter of any politician, so don't go into paranoid fantasies that my common sense is somehow in support of Obama. But I can tell you that attacking a person in a stressed position does not often lead them into compliance with you, especially if they believe you do not have the right to demand what it is you are demanding of them. The same is true with name calling for most people. So, one idea, but it doesn't FIX much. Anyone have anything else? THEN HOW COME SWITZERLAND ROLLED OVER FOR THE US ON PRIVATE ACCOUNTS? SAME FOR THE RECENT OFFSHORE BANKS? WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT AND SIEZE WHATEVER WE LIKE, WE DO IT EVERY DAY, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S ANYONE WHO CAN STAND UP TO US. AND AS FOR THE TORTURE IDEA, I AM AGAINST TORTURE, BUT IF WE DO IT ANYWAY TO DESTITUTE AFGHAN TEENAGERS, WHY NOT DO IT TO THE HEADS OF MULTINATIONAL CORPS TO LEARN WHAT THEY ARE KEEPING SECRET? YOU THINK THEY'LL HOLD OUT? WHO PAID OFF WHICH AGENCY HEAD TO GET AWAY WITH THE SHORTCUTS, ETC? AND IF THAT MUPPET HAD ANY "GOOD IDEAS" I AM CERTAIN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED BY NOW, SO DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH. BY THE TIME THEY SUGGESTED THE "JUNK SHOT" IT WAS A FAIT ACCOMPLI, THIS IS NEVER GOING TO BE FIXED, ALL THE PROTESTATIONS BY THE TALKING HEADS OF HAVING THE "BEST MINDS OF GOVERNMENT AND ACADEMIA WORKING ON THIS" ASIDE. In private matters it can sometimes be worked out with other countries. BP however is backed by the British Government and apparently has a lot of pensions riding on their stocks. It would be a lot harder to get cooperation, even from Switzerland, if it would require angering the British too much. I'm not certain who you think is a muppet, Obama or Tony Hayward? Either way, I never thought for a moment they had GOOD ideas. This is why I am suggesting we come up with some. Also, as an aside, why are you yelling? And why start out by attacking me? I'm asking for suggestions. You came up with one. I think, as a group we can do better. How about a youth corps project for outlying area (not TOO deadly) clean-up? How about allowing Mexicans to immigrate if they will spend two to four years on clean-up first, while getting room and board (of a sort) and a small payment each month? What about a government sponsored bio-remediation program? It won't cost a lot, and will help restore the gulf and maintain some life in it, even if this spill keeps going on. I think that we should ASK foreign concerns that have offered help to come in and do it. There are times to stand on pride and times when you have to realize you can't handle something yourself. I know that some laws may be in the way, how about a brief and conditional presidential order allowing environmental clean up to go ahead without having to bow to commerce, at least in hard hit areas? How about efforts in the outlying (Out of spill) areas in the gulf to maintain and increase the biological activity, so that fleeing animals that do make it out don't depopulate those areas due to increase depredation. (I know this is both huge and requires a lot of careful balance, but right now I doubt we could make it worse by trying to help.) Yeah, non of this fixes the leak, but from what people are saying here, nothing much will, until BP is ready to do that. They will go bankrupt first I think. LAWS will have to be changed, treaties actually, which are harder to change because they require other countries, in order to use a Nuke in the gulf, but what about a MOAB? OR, I'm certain we could do something similar with a smaller bomb that is not nuclear if we tried. If a 22 inch hole is being drilled, we can slip a 18 inch diameter charge int the hole, within ten to fifteen feet of the main tap. Set off a charge that will force the earth sideways collapsing the well from the side? This is basically what people want to do with a nuke, but perhaps it can be done faster if we don't insist it be nuclear? If we CAN do this, and some scientists will need to look at the idea first, then we should get BP out of the area after taking all their wealth, or at least what we can seize. That's all I have for now, off the top of my head, but maybe it will get someone else thinking? |
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The Monk User ID: 959567 United States 06/13/2010 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | President Obama will address the nation this Tuesday evening at 8pm. Here's the link: Quoting: DianaJune[link to www.foxnews.com] It would be nice if the government would come clean as to the scope of this disaster.....but I'm not holding my breath. This will NOT be good for him. The American people know more about what's going on from internet bloggers and youtube than what he's being told. Lot's of "I"m not aware of anyone from MMS resigning" moments. It just gets worse and worse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991825 Ecuador 06/13/2010 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the first storm, cyclone or hurricane, the damage will be very serious ... BP A BANKRUPTCY ... BP NO PAY TO ANYONE ... OBAMA TAKES THE INTERNATIONAL CLAIMS COSTS ... ... WHO PAYS THE DAMAGE ... OBAMA FOR BANKRUPTCY Will prefer EVACUATE PEOPLE ALL THE AREA FOR TEN YEARS OR USING THE NUCLEAR OPTION AND RETURN SOON TO YOUR HOME THESE IS PREFERRED OPTIONS.. OBAMA ASK TO THE PEOPLE.... 10 YEARS OF OIL SPILL OR NUCLEAR OPTION... THE PEOPLE SAY YESS TO THE NUCLEAR OPTION... REMEMBER BP ARE A COMPANY OF THE ILUMINATTI... BP AND OBAMA NEED OPTION NUCLEAR...THE DATE OF EXPLOTION ARE CLOSE... 24 JUNE 2010...DAY OF SAN JUAN BAUTISTA....CEREMONY ILUMINATTI... NEED FIRE CEREMONY DAY 20 APRIL 2010 (BIRTH OF HITLER) TO JUNE 24 DAY OF SAN JUAN BAUTISTA (IMPORTANT DATE ILLUMINATI, CEREMONIES OF LIGHT AND FIRE) ARE 66 DAYS (33 +33 = 66..DOUBLE ILLUMINATI MASTER) AND WHY NOT HELD WITH AN ATOMIC BOMB. 24 DE JUNE...24 == 2+4 == 6 AND JUNE ARE THE 6 MONTH..ANOTHER 6...JOIN...66... millions of tons of methane hydrates...YES...MORE FIRE AND LIGTH...BETTER FOR THE CEREMONY AT 24 JUNE... WILL SEE. ... |
Me114 User ID: 596184 United States 06/13/2010 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He'll try to dispell the rumors going around the internet about how bad it really is. He'll tell us what BP is doing to "contain" this. He's going to try to buy time and calm people down until the relief wells are completed and when they don't work then he'll turn it over to the military. His next address to the nation will be to confirm that a nuke is the only answer. Once the military gets hold of this crisis it's all over. He'll continue to do as he's told. All this could drag on into the coming year. His main theme will be to keep the population from panic and asking the question "just how bad is this". There is no cure to stop the oil flow and that's the truth they do not want to admit. Quoting: gabrielcheckinginYOU ARE CORRECT now, if it IS an ELE, then this planet deserves the right to process that! :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
Me114 User ID: 596184 United States 06/13/2010 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will first say that he gave BP 48 hours, they could not come up with anything, so they are planning the evacuation now and that details of the evacuation will be sent by the weeks end to the effected areas. Military personnel will be sent to help aid in the evacuation process, many will be sent to areas in Detroit where empty homes and business's can be made to house those "displaced" by this unfortunate situation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926958That's my hunch as well. He's given BP the dealine, and he only gave them this long because he was told to. That dealine is Tuesday but they all know nothing can be done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 360796His announcement will be centered around the military taking charge of operations surrounding the gulf. He'll outline how the residents will be affected, the costs involved, and how this is no one's fault it was an accident, blahblahblah, because we're still owned by England and he can't mess with them. In fact, I'd venture to say Obama is more controlled by England than any muslim country or ideology. None of it matters, though, because he's the fall guy. He's the sacrifice, the one on whom all blame will rest when everything is said and done. This way all anger will be focused on him instead of the real players creating this fiasco. Both of you believe it is time for him to announce EVACS and that HE WILL? nada :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
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Me114 User ID: 596184 United States 06/13/2010 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All he has to say is three words "were fucked people" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733974as much as i dislike that word, it would be better if he started his speech just like that and lets all be human beings again, at least one last freaking time :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 967625 United States 06/13/2010 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will first say that he gave BP 48 hours, they could not come up with anything, so they are planning the evacuation now and that details of the evacuation will be sent by the weeks end to the effected areas. Military personnel will be sent to help aid in the evacuation process, many will be sent to areas in Detroit where empty homes and business's can be made to house those "displaced" by this unfortunate situation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926958 Sending white rednecks to Detroit! Rednecks and cool weather--I'll be joining this party! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 981425 United States 06/13/2010 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it wouldn't make any sense for him to announce an evacuation. if he were going to do that he would be on television right now. i'm assuming it has something to do with the 48 hour time span the coast guard gave BP. its probably when Obama announces the federal takeover of the entire clean up effort. (with BP footing the bill of course) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 983390 United Kingdom 06/13/2010 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People, I quarante your Obama will not use the word British Petroleum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654799+1 [link to www.newsoftheworld.co.uk] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 910749 United States 06/13/2010 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can tell you exactly what he's going to say: need more effort, need more money, BP is accountable, we need to help BP, some shit about preventing this from happening again, us all chipping in to do our part etc...all that crap you'd expect him to say. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 739630 United States 06/13/2010 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone thought that the president is having so many parties and trips 'cause he know's somthing we don't? Like it might be his time to have a good time? Plus, maybe the oil spill was done on purpuse, so the U.S. could show off a nuke's potential to an interested buyer? |
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Analog User ID: 999213 United States 06/13/2010 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will first say that he gave BP 48 hours, they could not come up with anything, so they are planning the evacuation now and that details of the evacuation will be sent by the weeks end to the effected areas. Military personnel will be sent to help aid in the evacuation process, many will be sent to areas in Detroit where empty homes and business's can be made to house those "displaced" by this unfortunate situation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926958I have an feeling you may be right! Have a look at this video below, "Abandoned Detroit Skyscrapers". Plenty of room! And I'm sure all those tropical climate folks will get used to the mid-western winters with no problems! They'll love it there! /end sarcasm/ Last Edited by Analog on 06/13/2010 03:55 PM It's all happening. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 845092 United States 06/13/2010 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can tell you exactly what he's going to say: need more effort, need more money, BP is accountable, we need to help BP, some shit about preventing this from happening again, us all chipping in to do our part etc...all that crap you'd expect him to say. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910749He is probably going to tell us he has passed legislation which will shut down all gas operating vehicles and production facilites immediately. In return Americans will have to foot the bill on purchasing muslim made bicycles at the rate of 1 personally owned firearm per bike. All items will be shipped to your door via the labor unions out of Mexico where all the assembly will occur. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 994389 United States 06/13/2010 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Gore is ready to bring his line of Electric Gulf Carts online, and the high speed train money from the stimulus is somewhere, just not seeing too many high speed trains yet. bicycles are selling but remember FEMA has an underground storage of 100,000 bicycles. (renenber a few years back) Thread: 100,000 Bicycles and FEMA |