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A WOMAN CLOTHED WITH THE SUN - I get it now.....here is what it means

 
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Revelation 12:13

"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."



Revelations 12 is all about the return to Eden....and re-establishing the ultimate truth: human females preceeded human males....

'Adam' was Female....'Eve' was Male....



Not sure where you learned this but NO they weren't. Adam was male and Eve was female just as it should be.
 Quoting: domesticangel



Females came first....there is no question....

'Eve' was an afterthought....God decided later to create 'Eve' out of 'Adam'....

So then....why does a human male have nipples ?? Because they are left overs from our original Female ancestor....


"Are we all descended from a common female ancestor?."

­In 1987, a group of genet­icists published a surprising study in the journal Nature.­ The­ researchers examined the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) taken from 147 people across all of today's major racial groups. These researchers found that the lineage of all people alive today falls on one of two branches in humanity's family tree. One of these branches consists of nothing but African lineage, the other contains all other groups, including some African lineage.

­Even more impressive, the geneticists concluded that every person on Earth right now can trace his or her lineage back to a single common female ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago.


[link to science.howstuffworks.com]



AND don't forget God created Adam in an image....Females are 'XX' or an image....Males are 'XY'....

Take a 'Rib' from an 'X' Chromosome leaves a 'Y'....
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Oh and for the record....I am Male....
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Thats a great theory, i like it! Totally possible
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The WOMAN is ISRAEL.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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Revelation 12:13

"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."



Revelations 12 is all about the return to Eden....and re-establishing the ultimate truth: human females preceeded human males....

'Adam' was Female....'Eve' was Male....



Not sure where you learned this but NO they weren't. Adam was male and Eve was female just as it should be.



Females came first....there is no question....

'Eve' was an afterthought....God decided later to create 'Eve' out of 'Adam'....

So then....why does a human male have nipples ?? Because they are left overs from our original Female ancestor....


"Are we all descended from a common female ancestor?."

­In 1987, a group of genet­icists published a surprising study in the journal Nature.­ The­ researchers examined the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) taken from 147 people across all of today's major racial groups. These researchers found that the lineage of all people alive today falls on one of two branches in humanity's family tree. One of these branches consists of nothing but African lineage, the other contains all other groups, including some African lineage.

­Even more impressive, the geneticists concluded that every person on Earth right now can trace his or her lineage back to a single common female ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago.


[link to science.howstuffworks.com]



AND don't forget God created Adam in an image....Females are 'XX' or an image....Males are 'XY'....

Take a 'Rib' from an 'X' Chromosome leaves a 'Y'....
 Quoting: Sugarelf



Yes we are all from a female. God created a wife first. But God is male, and we came from that male before the female.

But I still don't get how you decided Adam was female.

We all have nipples because of dna. We are all the same until sex determination.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

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Everybody here has it wrong. What is happening here is an event that will lead to the unification of humanity into one working unit which is not burdened by the monetary system or scarcity.....after the painful birth.
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Revelation 12:13

"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."



Revelations 12 is all about the return to Eden....and re-establishing the ultimate truth: human females preceeded human males....

'Adam' was Female....'Eve' was Male....



Not sure where you learned this but NO they weren't. Adam was male and Eve was female just as it should be.



Females came first....there is no question....

'Eve' was an afterthought....God decided later to create 'Eve' out of 'Adam'....

So then....why does a human male have nipples ?? Because they are left overs from our original Female ancestor....


"Are we all descended from a common female ancestor?."

­In 1987, a group of genet­icists published a surprising study in the journal Nature.­ The­ researchers examined the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) taken from 147 people across all of today's major racial groups. These researchers found that the lineage of all people alive today falls on one of two branches in humanity's family tree. One of these branches consists of nothing but African lineage, the other contains all other groups, including some African lineage.

­Even more impressive, the geneticists concluded that every person on Earth right now can trace his or her lineage back to a single common female ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago.


[link to science.howstuffworks.com]



AND don't forget God created Adam in an image....Females are 'XX' or an image....Males are 'XY'....

Take a 'Rib' from an 'X' Chromosome leaves a 'Y'....



Yes we are all from a female. God created a wife first. But God is male, and we came from that male before the female.

But I still don't get how you decided Adam was female.

We all have nipples because of dna. We are all the same until sex determination.
 Quoting: domesticangel


If you look up the word RIB according to the bible it actually means STRAND...as in the DNA strand.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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It's VIRGO...LOOK UP!

ALL the answers are in the stars....
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I said it on the FIRST page!
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Cast off the shoe! Follow the gourd!!!

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If you look up the word RIB according to the bible it actually means STRAND...as in the DNA strand.
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Where do you see that in this definition?
[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

1) side, rib, beam

a) rib (of man)

b) rib (of hill, ridge, etc)

c) side-chambers or cells (of temple structure)

d) rib, plank, board (of cedar or fir)

e) leaves (of door)

f) side (of ark)
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Yes we are all from a female. God created a wife first. But God is male, and we came from that male before the female.

But I still don't get how you decided Adam was female.

We all have nipples because of dna. We are all the same until sex determination.
 Quoting: domesticangel



God is neither male or female....

And yes....we are all the same sex until determination: female
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If you look up the word RIB according to the bible it actually means STRAND...as in the DNA strand.
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Yes....

I tie it to Ribosome or Ribose....which is what RNA is composed of....
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Cast off the shoe! Follow the gourd!!!


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HA !!!!

Too funny....
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It's VIRGO...LOOK UP!

ALL the answers are in the stars....
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Yeah, there have been a couple of posts here explaining how the constellations and stars predict the times things will happen.
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lol


What? you think this shit is funny? I pity the FOOL (mr T)
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Its pretty good. The Earth is preparing to deliver.
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AURORA...the FINE line separating LIGHT from DARKNESS 24/7
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I meant...venus not virgo....sorry hf
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Look up the definition for Lucifer in Websters 1828 Dictionary of the English Language...

First definition is "The Planet VENUS"


Try again
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Strong's H1966 - heylel
Outline of Biblical Usage
Lucifer = "light-bearer"
1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer
a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)
2) (TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon

Satan's Babylon is in Revelation.

Re.14:8
And there followed another angel,
saying,
Babylon is fallen,
is fallen,
that great city,
because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Re.18:8
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day,
death,
and mourning,
and famine;
and she shall be utterly burned with fire:
for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
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the woman is the body of everyone born of the spirit, no matter what sex. that woman gives birth to a son. the dragon looks to devour that person.

the rest of this stuff is just nonsense.
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God is neither male or female....

And yes....we are all the same sex until determination: female
 Quoting: Sugarelf


God is actually both, a perfect balance of energies. However, He is of the masculine persuasion :)
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

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The dear Protestants will do anything to deny Catholicism.
The child is Jesus...they agree but the "woman" isn't Mary!
Ridiculous.

Mary is the "woman" Jesus addresses at the Wedding at Cana, the "woman" again when Jesus speaks to John and His dearest mother for the last time on the cross. The Blessed Trinity knows all...figure it out...They knew from the beginning. Mary is the "woman" in Genesis 3:15.

Our Lord's mother, Mary, the mother of God is the "woman"
in Revelation 12:1.

This subject is brought up once a week. You can know, be
logical even if you deny the authority of the Church to know.
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God is neither male or female....

And yes....we are all the same sex until determination: female


God is actually both, a perfect balance of energies. However, He is of the masculine persuasion :)
 Quoting: domesticangel


Yes....God is both and neither....

But God is definetly not of the 'masculine persuasion'....

God should never be refered to as 'he', 'him', or any pronoun whatsoever....
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God is an It. Because in order to be a he, or a she, there must be a body and there must be genitals.

God does not have genitals. God does not have masculine or feminine attributes which overwhelm the attributes of the other.

Therefor, God is an It.

It's our cultural bias to feel that calling anything an "it" is disrespectful or dehumanizing. But the fact of the matter is that God is not a human, and shouldn't be humanized to begin with.
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God is an It. Because in order to be a he, or a she, there must be a body and there must be genitals.

God does not have genitals. God does not have masculine or feminine attributes which overwhelm the attributes of the other.

Therefor, God is an It.

It's our cultural bias to feel that calling anything an "it" is disrespectful or dehumanizing. But the fact of the matter is that God is not a human, and shouldn't be humanized to begin with.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


God is "being."
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Revelation 12:13

"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."

The woman here represents God's true church. That's not meaning there's a specific church as in baptist, catholic, methodist, etc.. but just God's true believers and followers. Read it correctly here, Satan persecuted "the woman" God's people, which brought forth his Son the "man child." Remember when Herod gave the order to kill every child that is under 2 years of age because they caught wind that the "Christ" child was born. Satan had been literally trying to kill off the seed of Abraham thus preventing Christ from being born. Nice try, didn't work..

I think some try to read to much into the symbols of revelation especially when you just pick and choose scriptures without putting the whole together..
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"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars."



The woman here represents Eve and we all know Humanity for the sakes of this argument descended from a black woman.Science confirms that.This woman was undoubtedly African.So the woman here is AFRICA which is a sunny land {clothed with the sun}.The 12 stars are the 12 countries the house of Judah {Bantu} were spread to.Including the black Americans who majority of them happen to be Bantu contrary to false info put out there to further cover up their identity. The moon under her feet are gentiles.


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a woman clothed with the sun=Africa

The 12 stars=12 countries where the house of Judah {Bantu} settled including African Americans
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The moon under her feet=Gentiles
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Follow very closely what the western {especially America} does in Kenya.If you want to understandthe Bible,follow Kenya's politics.Kenya is Canaan.And no it wasn't just colonialists in Kenya,the majority of {colonialists} were actually templars {freemasons} stealing ancient Hebrew artifacts and imposing foreign practises to discourage Hebrew practises.The history and info we have been taught is a grand lie.I've studied the old Kikuyu ways and it's all Hebrew,from circumcision to festivals,the way they slaughter their animals for the festivals and their attitude towards life though corrupted by colonialists and a broken timeline where they were not allowed to keep their covenant with YAHWEH.You have to pay attention to the facts without prejudice or hate.If you are so wrapped up in your hate and blinded by this brand sold to you to cost your soul,then my friend you will understand:

Genesis 12:3"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

You are more likely to realise who is who in the Bible if you are not prejudiced.
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God is an It. Because in order to be a he, or a she, there must be a body and there must be genitals.

God does not have genitals. God does not have masculine or feminine attributes which overwhelm the attributes of the other.

Therefor, God is an It.

It's our cultural bias to feel that calling anything an "it" is disrespectful or dehumanizing. But the fact of the matter is that God is not a human, and shouldn't be humanized to begin with.
 Quoting: Sandi_T

I saw God once...The Father was on the left, the Mother on the right like resplendent royalty shining in all directions both issuing from a single white hole source of blinding energy and spoke in a unified male and female voice

They manifest as two for the purpose of Creation.

And yes, God manifests anthropomorphized for our benefit until we are tempered enough to experience that awesome totality directly. God is a courteous God.

Just an experience to consider...all to be placed on the altar to Truth.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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God is "Being."
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This.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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God is an It. Because in order to be a he, or a she, there must be a body and there must be genitals.

God does not have genitals. God does not have masculine or feminine attributes which overwhelm the attributes of the other.

Therefor, God is an It.

It's our cultural bias to feel that calling anything an "it" is disrespectful or dehumanizing. But the fact of the matter is that God is not a human, and shouldn't be humanized to begin with.

I saw God once...The Father was on the left, the Mother on the right like resplendent royalty shining in all directions both issuing from a single white hole source of blinding energy and spoke in a unified male and female voice

They manifest as two for the purpose of Creation.

And yes, God manifests anthropomorphized for our benefit until we are tempered enough to experience that awesome totality directly. God is a courteous God.

Just an experience to consider...all to be placed on the altar to Truth.
 Quoting: Rex Khristos Israel

Yahweh is a him.
Genesis 1:27"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God HE created HIM; male and female he created them."

And we know Eve was created from Adams rib.Genesis 2:21–22
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Yahweh is a him.
Genesis 1:27"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God HE created HIM; male and female he created them."

And we know Eve was created from Adams rib.Genesis 2:21–22
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Yahweh had a wife.

You need to do some homework on biblical origins.

Ancient Man’s View of the Heavenly Realms

For the average ancient man it was common to envision the godly entities of the heavens in pairs. These pairs normally consisted of a husband-wife ratio which essentially reflected the importance of the family unit in ancient times. For it was the help and patronage of the family and clan that protected and eased people’s daily hardship. One example of this husband-wife pair comes from the Syrian city of Ugarit (modern day Ras Shamra) where from the 14th century BCE onwards we have a rich deposit of religious literature that has revealed ancient worshippers outlook on the gods. These people worshipped a variety of gods, of whom the high god was called El and his consort was called Athirat.

A Divine Marriage in Judah & Israel

browsing A similar picture has been suggested in regards to the early religious life of the Israelites and Judahites. There exists some evidence from archaeology that many people also worshipped the god Yahweh with a female consort called Asherah. (See Kuntillet Ajrud and the Khirbet el-Qom Inscriptions). In fact it is not just extra-biblical evidence that can be cited in support of this older version of how the heavens were ordered, but the bible itself reveals a picture that seems to place Asherah in a legitimate position of worship early on in the religion of the nation. For example we are told that Asherah (generally believed to by a stylized tree or pole, possibly a date palm) was installed in the Temple of Jerusalem and in other sanctuaries around Judah at different times (2 Kings 18:4; 21:7).

Some have suggested that even the decorations used inside the Temple, the “cherubim, palmettes and calyxes” (1 Kings 6) helped to legitimize her position since she was worshipped in the form of a tree, and the decorations inside the Temple upheld the ancient motif of the Tree of Life flanked by two guards (like in the Garden of Eden story). This picture from Judah is likewise reflected in the northern kingdom of Israel. King Jehu who was a great religious conservative, destroyed the worship of Baal that had sprung up in Israel, but did not destroy the Asherah that was installed in his capital city of Samaria. This particular story seems to reveal that early religion in Israel was pro-Asherah and that such a position was in step with being a conservative follower of Yahweh.

Yahweh stands Alone

A However this idea did not retain its legitimacy as time moved on. Another idea began replacing it, an idea that Yahweh was alone in his dealings with human kind, and that he was almighty and none other existed besides him. This ideology that is found so eloquently expressed in the book of Deuteronomy, naturally takes an aggressive stance to anything else that may attempt to steal or share Yahweh’s glory. It is thus not surprising to see the high anti-Asherah rhetoric in the bible that stems from this increasingly developed theology of Yahweh.

It is in this vein of thinking that we see religious reforms carried out in the land of Judah under Hezekiah and Josiah (2 Kings 18 & 23). They removed and destroyed the symbol of Asherah wherever she was found in the country- and in so doing proved to be more radical and innovative in their approach to how the world and the heavens were ordered.
They broke tradition with the ancient religious beliefs that had been so normative in their area of the world and in the worship of Yahweh in its early stages, and they struck a new path that led to the monotheistic religion of today.

In agricultural Canaan the Queen of Heaven eclipsed the male god. Adon, the Lord was the son of the Queen of Heaven, and a subordinate deity by her side. ... But to the more conservative elements among the Hebrew tribes those agricultural forms of the Semitic cult were an abomination. "So completely had Yahweh become assimilated to him that not only were the two cults confounded, the Jewish women celebrating the 'lamentations' of Tammuz in the national temple, but the very names had become inextricably blended ; Yahweh was as often as not spoken of as 'The Lord,' Adon" , or Adonai who is also the Syrian Adonis, born from a tree (Briffault 3 109).

"When the Hebrew tribes under the leadership of the votaries of the god of Sinai came out of the 'land of drought' into a land flowing with milk and honey of the Queen of Heaven, they found their own race there and their own releigion but modified by the effects of agricultural civilization ... The Queen of Heaven, under whatever name,. she may have been worshipped - possibly Miriam, ... the high-priestess among the Levites, - belonged from time immemorial to Jewish cult ... The Host of Heaven - the very Elohim of the astral deities was a notable component of this worship. ... The temple of Jerusalem was simultaneously dedicated to Yahweh and the the Queen of Heaven. Before it sttodf the asherah, symbolic trees that are throughout Semitic lands assocaited with the female aspect of the deity" (Briffault 3 110)
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."

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