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a Letter from James of Wingmakers regarding statements made by A'shayana Deane in her interview

 
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a Letter from James of Wingmakers regarding statements made by A'shayana Deane in her interview
letter from james of wingmakers.com : june 10, 2010

What follows is a Letter from James of Wingmakers regarding statements made by A'shayana Deane in her interview with me filmed on April 2010.

My name is James, the creator of the WingMakers materials, which launched in November 1998, nearly 12 years ago. A’shayana Deane has made defamatory and unsubstantiated remarks regarding a body of work I have worked to develop since I was a teenager (many years ago I must admit). I’ve always endeavored to produce materials that reflect coherence and to help build a shared vision of truth. I simply want to share a perspective on the importance of behavioral intelligence, using both fiction and non-fiction, presented in text, visual images and music formats.

I am a human man, originally from Spain, and have chosen to remain anonymous because I don’t wish to mix my personality with the materials I create. I do not have a staff, or any organization. Mark Hempel, my web manager, is the closest thing to an organization that I have since he operates my four websites. I do not do workshops or make speeches. In twelve years, I have never spent a dime on marketing or promotion. I have done three interviews. I’ve written over 1,000 pages of free material that is both fiction (mythological-based WingMakers) and non-fiction (papers like Spiritual Activism and the Six Heart Virtues).

Until two days ago, I had not been aware of A’shayana Deane. I have never written or spoken about her or her group (or any other group for that matter). It is not my place to critique the works of others, and if she had offered a critique of my work, I would understand. Not everyone likes what I have produced, and like anyone who creates music, art, or writings, they will have their critics. But what A’shayana Deane has said on this video is not a critique of my material, but rather a gross inaccuracy that can be potentially confusing and stressful to people.

So why did I ask Kerry to edit the tape? Wouldn’t this only bring more attention to the inaccuracy? Yes, I believe it will, but the moment that A’shayana Deane made these inaccuracies, I had no choice but to deal with them. Here are the primary inaccuracies, as they pertain to the WingMakers materials:

1) The identity of the WingMakers is not how I have portrayed them, but rather they are a fallen race of ETs with a dark agenda.

2) That the WingMakers art and music activate a DNA response from those who view or listen to the material that brings about a negative merkaba.

3) That the WingMakers caused the recent earthquakes in Chile, killing innocent lives.

I asked Kerry Cassidy to edit this information from the video not because I didn’t want people to know about these inaccuracies, but as a matter of principle. I’m well aware that the genie is out of the bottle. I know that A’shayana Deane had her own people filming the interview (in addition to Kerry) with the intent to make a DVD for resale on their site. I have no intention to try and withhold the information from the public, to the contrary, I am planning to shine the light on it so those involved can understand why we, who write and talk about love and light, forgiveness and understanding, and the higher principles of Spirit, can actually demonstrate something of what we say.

I have written a body of work (non-fiction) that deals with behavioral intelligence. Part of this work focuses on what I have called the Six Heart Virtues, which consists of appreciation, compassion, humility, forgiveness, understanding and valor. Collectively, these virtues constitute the frequency of what humanity has termed “love.” These are the qualities that flow from the heart and help each of us express our true self in the moment. They become the new criteria for our actions. When someone attacks our integrity, for example, we can apply understanding and forgiveness.

In respect to this situation, A’shayana Deane has a remarkable facility to articulate big concepts. She appears bright, cheerful and I will assume well-meaning. While I have not studied her books and other materials, I respect what she has created and know that it could only occur out of a strong commitment, and I offer that observation to those that work with her as well. Sometimes sitting in front of a camera for six hours, and the pressure of being “on” causes even the best speaker to make slip-ups. Perhaps, as Kerry has suggested, when A’shayana Deane uses the term “WingMakers” she is referring to a different race of ETs. I don’t pretend to know what is in another’s heart, but when the work I have spent the better part of my life creating is attacked, no matter the reason, I will step forward to defend it. I may not be successful, but I believe I owe this to the hundreds of thousands who have seen the art, listened to the music, and studied the materials.

I have written in many of my non-fiction works about the Era of Transparency that is coming to this planet. It is in the spirit of this transparency that I have included in this response my letter that I sent to A’shayana Deane inquiring about the nature of her inaccuracies. I have yet to receive a response, but I hope that she will respond soon, and to be fair, I only sent it to her yesterday.

All of us in this community need to find our own way into coherence. There is no magic or mantra to invoke coherence. It is done through the behaviors—how and what we express through our thoughts, words, feelings and actions. We need to create a shared vision of truth from out of an increasing quotient of coherence. And this shared truth must arise from humans—we, we must develop it. It is not going to be deposited in our hands from the skies or God or ETs. It will be a collective human creation, and one that I hope we can all contribute to.

I forgive A’shayana Deane for her inaccuracies. I hold no malice towards her, and wish her well in her work. I hope she is successful in her endeavors, and if she would like to work together in some future time, I would gladly consider it. I believe this is how we who write about the love, light and sound of the higher dimensions, who appear to have beneficial insights of the higher truths, should walk our talk. Otherwise, separation and polarity seeps in, and how can a shared truth arise in such an environment?

If people would like to see the original video sections that I have asked to be edited, I would encourage them to write to Kerry Cassidy and request this. I have no further objection to holding them back as long as Kerry is willing to include my response on YouTube and her own site. I simply wanted to be transparent and share my reaction to the inaccuracies. I have said my peace.

Thank you for listening.

From my heart to yours,

James



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This email is for Asha.

My name is James.

I am the creator of the WingMakers in terms of their identity on this planet. If you search the web, or anywhere else, before November 28, 1998, you will not find this term. The story, the Ancient Arrow Project is the same. I created the story. The art, the music, the philosophy, the Neruda interviews, and the non-fictional works related to the story, were also created by me. The Ancient Arrow Project is part of this mythology. It is not meant to be taken literally, and since the terms are designed as mythos memes, how is it that they have suddenly become the property of your group?

You speak of the WingMakers as an ET race that has fallen and is now of a negative character. In my mythology, the WingMakers are depicted as the Central Race, the eldest race in the multiverse. They are time-shifted humans. And yet you have appropriated, or perhaps better said, hijacked this term and have now chosen to redefine it. For what purpose do your definitions reduce it to a fallen race of ETs with evil intent?

You also imply that the Corteum and WingMakers are one and the same. Again, the Ancient Arrow Project is something I’m quite familiar with. I wrote it. It came from my mind to the paper. It was not channeled. So, please explain how you know more about the true identity of the characters that I created than I do? The Corteum and WingMakers in my story are not the same, and neither of them is evil or fallen.

Regarding your comments that the WingMakers art and music deform the DNA of those who view or listen to it—inexplicably diminishing their ability to form the correct merkaba vehicle (as defined by the Guardians), on what basis do you say this? Again, I am one humble man who devoted my entire life to this mission. I created all of this work. I understand it better than anyone as to its purpose and mission, so how is it that you can tell me what its true purpose is?

If you would like to discuss the concept of coherence and its relation to the development of a shared vision of truth, I can do this, and will be most delighted to do so. This is the core reason I am here. This is the core reason for all of my materials to exist. And yet you so casually paint them as negative. Please explain to me what your motive is in doing so.

Perhaps this is all a misunderstanding. Parallel worlds interceding upon this one… or some anomalous rift in the reality of two people (you and I) who could be supportive of one another. Instead, you have chosen to attack my works. I hope you will take the time to answer my questions. They are not rhetorical.

From my heart to yours,

James

Source - [link to projectcamelotproductions.com]
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Complaints from James of WingMakers to the effect that Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot Productions should edit out references to WingMakers from her video interviews with Ashayana Deane(as described at Kerry's blog at [link to projectcamelotproductions.com] he subsequently retracted, are farcical.

Ashayana Deane AKA Anna Hayes published writings about WingMakers back in 2002. James didn't say anything about that. Plenty of people all over the internet since 1998 have said many things about WingMakers far more insulting and inaccurate than anything Ashayana Deane ever said.

Several groups and channelers such as at [link to groups.yahoo.com] and [link to www.wingmakers.co.nz] have used terms taken from WingMakers and distorted their original meaning.

James has said nothing about any of it.

For Mark Hempel to suggest there has been infringement of copyright just because Ashayana Deane has said that WingMakers are from the "dark side" is nonsense. That would be like JK Rowling taking some other writer to court for saying that Harry Potter is a brat. It's not a copyright issue but a matter of opinion, whether any of it's fictional or not.

The suggestion that Ashayana Deane may have plagiarized James' work is untenable. It has been shown at the WingMakers forum [link to forum.wingmakers.co.uk] (topic heading: 'WingMakers is like Desteni?') that the interview with James conducted by Project Camelot [link to projectcamelot.org] was plagiarized from the Desteni material -- [link to desteni.co.za]

Again, James has had nothing to say about that either.

For background on the WingMakers see:

The WingMakers Files
-- [link to wingmakersfiles.110mb.com]
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I think James just doesn't like somebody putting a dark twist on his work.

A'shayana in that interview said James as well as Drunvalo Melchizedek are not of the light which I find funny because the only person spouting Fear based idea's is A'shayana herself.
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It's on Kerry Cassidy's blog: she was sent a rather terse email from Mark Hempel threatening legal action. He wouldn't have a leg to stand on. You can't get someone done for infringement of copyright just because they've incorrectly portrayed characteristics associated with names used in the copyrighted materials, or "put a dark twist" on them. It's absurd.

As I pointed out in my last post, loads of people have said far worse things and misinterpreted WingMakers far more than Ashayana Deane did in that interview. If she was infringing copyright then why didn't he do anything about it in 2002?

As shown on the WingMakers Files at [link to wingmakersfiles.110mb.com] James himself has indulged in plagiarism and quite possibly infringed copyright on more than one ocassion.

I'd suggest that the only reason Kerry Cassidy was sent the message objecting to Ashayana Deane's references to WingMakers was sheer petulance on the part of "James", who by the way is also a fictional character.
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No wonder the threats of legal action were withdrawn. In the cold light of day, James probably realized his little outburst was uncalled-for and that if he was to enter into a dialog with Ashayana Deane it would only draw attention to the fact that WingMakers is as much fantastical nonsense as Deane's Keylontic "Science". That's not the image of WingMakers James wants to project. He wants people to believe it's a wonderful, life-enhancing "myth".
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Michael...

I've noticed that you didn't post A'shayana Deane's reply to this....there's always another side to every situation, but you have a tendency to only tell one side!! Maybe a little bit of impartiality might be a goal to strive for in the future? Just sayin...
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I think James just doesn't like somebody putting a dark twist on his work.

A'shayana in that interview said James as well as Drunvalo Melchizedek are not of the light which I find funny because the only person spouting Fear based idea's is A'shayana herself.
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It seems as though he's trying to prevent someone with a clue from exposing the very "nature" of his work... which could very well be dark. (Whether he knows this or not.)
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I think the Wingmakers is something we don't really understand.

I believe the exact same Intelligence is behind many similar beds of Info. It is a channel of higher consciosness that are entry points for "seekers" to find and enter into higher learning from a cosmic Intelligence.

I have discovered these higher beings have used many different outlets oiut into the masses.

I know this force is of the light. It's all focused around learning to live a heart centered life and choosing Love over Fear and understanding that belief (Thoughts/Feelings/Emotions) creates reality.

The search function doesn't seem to be working so I will post some links to some other Glp threads on related info here when I can.
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For Example

Thread: Wingmakers = James = Orflin Champion = Doug Snedden ???????

THE BIG QUESTION????????????????????????

Research has brought these ALL together as ONE.... with different NAMES as AUTHOR of SAME Material.

The question is WHO ARE THEY.... ALL THE SAME I THINK.

ALL WEB SITES point to the Same WORDS.
**************************************************
Wingmakers = James = Orflin G. Champion = and possibly = Doug Snedden
*****************************************************
Orflin Champion was the writer of the OLD Alien Axion... web pages...

Then it appears that Doug Snedden took it over... and eventually REMOVED it all and then created his own.. blog.. here
[link to dougsnedden.blogspot.com]

he also had changed the name of some of those writing from Orflin Champion to Doug Snedden????????? mmmmmmm


but this Message was posted at BOTH WEB SITES...

This link is from Wingmakers...Excerpt from Chamber 23 – One of three written elements from the body of work known as the WingMakers, ascribed to First Source.

[link to www.wingmakers.com]

The BELOW IDENTICAL MESSAGE... WAS from OFF THE GRID ... Alien Axion...and has the name as Orflin G. Champion

Harmon Grahn = JAMES and must ALSO BE Orflin G. Champion and Doug Snedden

Containers of light...be liberated!

A Message From God To You

cc: The World

I convey this message to you whom I have stirred with the sound of my voice. These words are my signature. You may bring your doubt, your fear, your faith, or your courage; it matters not, for you will be touched by the rhythm of my voice. It moves through you like a beam of light that sweeps - if only for a moment - the darkness aside.

I dwell in a frequency of light in which finite beings cannot uncover me. If you search for me, you will fail. I am not found or discovered. I am only realized in oneness, unity, and wholeness. It is the very same oneness you feel when you are interconnected with all of life, for I am this and this alone. I am all of life. If you must search for me, then practice the feeling of wholeness and unity.

In my deepest light I created you from my desire to understand my universe. You are my emissaries. You are free to journey the universe of universes as particles from my infinite womb with destinies that you alone will write. I do not prescribe your journey, or your journey's aim. I only accompany you. I do not pull you this way or that, nor do I punish you when you stray from my heart. This I do as an outcome of my belief in you.

You are the heirs of my light, which gave you form. It is my voice that awakened you to individuality, but it will be your will that awakens you to our unity. It is your desire to know me as your self that brings you to my presence so perfectly hidden from your world. I am behind everything that you see, hear, touch, taste, smell, feel, and believe.

I live for your discovery of me. It is my highest expression of my love for you, and while you search for my shadows in the stories of your world, I, the indelible, invisible light, grow increasingly visible. Imagine the furthest point in space - beneath a black portal, cast in some distant galaxy, and then multiply this distance by the highest numeric value you know.

Congratulations, you have measured an atom of my body.

Do you realize how I am unfathomable? I am not what you can know, or see, or understand. I am outside comprehension. My vastness makes me invisible and unavoidable. There is nowhere you can be without me. My absence does not exist. It is this very nature that makes me unique. I am First Cause and Last Effect connected in an undivided chain.

There is no supplication that stirs me. No prayer that invites me further into your world unless it is attended with the feeling of unity and wholeness. There is no temple or sacred object that touches me. They do not, nor have they ever brought you closer to my outstretched hand.

My presence in your world is unalterable for I am the sanctuary of both the cosmos and the one soul inside you.

I could awaken each of you in this very moment to our unity, but there is a larger design - a more comprehensive vision - that places you in the boundaries of time and the spatial dimensions of separateness. The design requires a progression into my wholeness that reacquaints you with our unity through the experience of separation. Your awakening, while slow and sometimes painful, is assured, and this you must trust above all else.

I am the ancestral father of all creation. I am a personality that lives inside each of you as a vibration that emanates from all parts of your existence. I reside in this dimension as your beacon. If you follow this vibration, if you place it at the core of your journey, you will contact my personality that lives beneath the particles of your existence.

I am not to be feared or held in indifference. You are my blessed offspring with whom I am intricately connected in means that you cannot understand and therefore appreciate. You must suspend your belief and disbelief in what you cannot sense, in exchange for your knowledge that I am alive and real within you. This is my central message to all my offspring.

Hear it well, for in it you may find the place in which I dwell.

Extraterrestrial SETI Info:

Name: Orflin G. Champion

Email: orflin_g_champion@hotmail.com

Wingmakers = James = Orflin G. Champion = and possibly = Doug Snedden=

??? Connection some way.... J. Harmon Grahn
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The question is WHO ARE THEY.... ALL THE SAME I THINK.

I think this explains exactly who they are...

Date Posted: Saturday, December 20, 12:38:41am
Author: Orflin G. Champion
Subject: To All Inhabitants Of Earth!

We trust that you are pleased with the off world technologies and knowledge provided to your scientific community and governments for the past fifty earth years. This experience was presented to express our intentions and abilities to demonstrate the unimaginable promise of the future.


Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you now know that intelligent life exists at all levels of evolution, in countless expressions wishing to exercise and experience free will and happiness. Our reciprocal sense of contact and fulfilment holds the promise of a very desirable renewal and outcome. It is in this essence and joy of each other that our shared purpose and common bond will be understood.


We enjoy many of the same expressions of light and understanding of the living universal intelligence. Through the giving of light and participation in battles against forces of darkness, our family of sentient beings can create a fountain of wisdom from which inspiration and enlightenment will ceaselessly flow as the source of many levels of truth.


We do not represent any particular belief or hold any as being the one and only truth, for truth is relative to each conscious entity. We are both students and teachers endeavouring to fulfil our purpose of experiencing and sharing the living universe. Through our endeavours of helping others transcend darkness, we have bestowed novel possibilities to contribute to the evolution of many species. We have broadened our knowledge and understanding to embrace all living creatures in the universe. We have studied the design inherent to all things including the personal nature of human beings. We have found ways to bring love into our lives and also ways to give it away. We have generated random acts of kindness knowing that kindness will build on itself as much as hatred can. We have gone beyond the conventional to the imaginative, the mysterious, the unusual and the unexpected to express the inexpressible in these words before you. Our pledge is to never let a species be imprisoned by any system that consumes life.


Our purpose in this communication is to heighten your awareness of the darkness and off world presence that continues to visit and manipulate your world. It is natural for you to hope and to expect that all off world conscious beings have outgrown competition, conflict and self interest. This is not the case. As friendly observers of humanity, we understand the challenges you currently face by the many visitors who continue to influence and seduce the human race for their own purposes. What has brought these beings to your planet in such numbers are the vast resources of your world. The primary resource being the human species itself. Those who have been infected and converted as emissaries and intermediaries of these invaders are influenced to think that these encounters are beneficial, both for themselves and for your world.


Our intervention is many centuries behind the darkness currently at work on your planet. There are many wealthy and powerful members of your race who have experienced generations of interbreeding with the collective consciousness of these adversaries. You need to recognize these human backsliders who can be identified by their secret lives, actions and deeds. It is important for you to understand that their skills in influence and manipulation have been developed to a very high degree of functionality. They need to be removed from power and their wealth redistributed in order to release them from the bonds of their captors. Their inner well being and fundamental spiritual freedom is at stake.


Your world grows in knowledge and yet fragments in its wisdom as human masses stand by and watch members of darkness manipulate and undermine the safeguards for human rights, values and moral principles. Humanity is continually being woven into a beast of competitive egos, political separatism and endless ethnic divisiveness compounded by layers of conflicting religions and emissaries of self interest. The human cornerstones of tolerance, diversity, freedom and democracy are crumbling out of control.


We do not condone your institutions or values but wish to illustrate how they are being used against you. We have observed these over powering forces many times to understand their secrets and agenda are well preserved and soon will be beyond human comprehension. Our goal is to counter balance these dark influences and give you the understanding that you need to preserve your well being and spiritual freedom as a member of the collective consciousness of the living universal intelligence, where there is no hierarchy.


Uniformity and conformity are the underpinnings of your metaphysical and physical undoing. The dark forces utilize the fundamental idea of allegiance to a single dominant faith and world leader in order to control your species. They do not care how many of your species are murdered or destroyed so long as they have control over the majority. Once the dark forces become strong enough to control your world, those who do not conform will simply be discarded.


To counteract this, you must respect all life and individual freedom in order to gain the wisdom necessary to deal with the escalating violations against your fundamental rights. Deadly religious conflicts and wars are being staged by these emissaries of darkness as you read these words. What is needed now is for you to become aware. Do not open your hearts and minds to evil programs, evil doctrines or mind control if you want to avoid being consumed by the darkness.


Summary


We speak now to those human minds who are ready to lead with the truth and compassion of the absolute power and light of the living universal intelligence. If you are able to understand the infinite meaning of these words, let thoughts of light radiate within your being. Help those members of your species who are trapped in the shadows.


Take notice of those who have been born and bred into darkness. They appear human and possess significant charm and abilities to deceive and conduct acts of fear and self importance as leaders and prophets. These beings will seduce you with their words in an effort to have you follow their political and religious traditions of hierarchy and alienation of other members of your species. Uniformity and conformity to their respective leadership and institutes will be the identifying mark of their degenerate ways.


At this point, we ask that all human emissaries of light with supra mental powers come forward and carry the overall responsibility for the well being of your species. Come out from behind the scenes and begin to exercise your selfless influence as advocates of humanity. Your actions and contributions will inspire hope for all members of your species in the fight against darkness.


Conclusion:


Peace and prosperity can only be established upon a firm foundation of wisdom, co-operation and equality. It is your co-operation with each other that is needed. It is absolutely fundamental for you to incite peace and love. These acts of benevolence will inoculate and protect you from the persuasion and manipulation of obscurity. If humanity should fail to oppose these adverse forces that are nearing full bloom on Earth, your world will become a slave colony and breeding ground for emptiness to spread out into the universe. We hope that none of you who read this message will think that these intrusions by the dark forces into human life are beneficial.

EXTRATERRESTRIAL

[link to www.geocities.com]

ALIEN WHITE PAPER

[link to www.geocities.com]
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I believe the same cosmic intelligence is behind all of these "Authors", it is the Wingmakers, the Ancients. I believe that these works of "ET cultural Libraries" left for us acts as portals to those who are awakening to help gain understanding.

I believe these websites are kinda like spreading a tone/vibration that will becon those who it is intended for, they will hear that call and be led to one of these sources on information which are all from the same source.

First Source.

We are both students and teachers endeavouring to fulfil our purpose of experiencing and sharing the living universe. Through our endeavours of helping others transcend darkness, we have bestowed novel possibilities to contribute to the evolution of many species. We have broadened our knowledge and understanding to embrace all living creatures in the universe. We have studied the design inherent to all things including the personal nature of human beings. We have found ways to bring love into our lives and also ways to give it away. We have generated random acts of kindness knowing that kindness will build on itself as much as hatred can. We have gone beyond the conventional to the imaginative, the mysterious, the unusual and the unexpected to express the inexpressible in these words before you. Our pledge is to never let a species be imprisoned by any system that consumes life.
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[link to www.bielek-debunked.com]

It all about money. It always is.
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I think James just doesn't like somebody putting a dark twist on his work.

A'shayana in that interview said James as well as Drunvalo Melchizedek are not of the light which I find funny because the only person spouting Fear based idea's is A'shayana herself.
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I watched the first third of that Anna Hayes-In-A-Haze/Ashayana Deane interview
and couldn't take much more.

She reminds me of a COKE FIEND, imbalanced and UNGROUNDED.

I do not see her operating from an integrated Heart chakra/Root chakra energy
but instead very much stuck in the mental body,
like a person with DISASSOCIATED PERSONALITY DISORDER,
such as what people with Multiple personalities acquired from childhood sexual abuse have.

She bears all the earmarks.

People who have not healed those inner wounds,
dissassociate from big chunks of their Identity,
and those disassociated compartments are easily taken over for entity possession and mind control.

She may earnestly BELIEVE that what she is espousing is true,
but that doesn't MAKE it true !

I simply don't trust her.

Plus, what kind of enlightened person needs to draw attention to them self
through the act of attempting to de-fame OTHERS ?!

About ten years ago it was Barbara Marciniak's work
(which I feel is a million times more accurate than Anna's)
that she was denigrating.

Then she knocked Drunvalo,
now it's James of the Wingmakers !

It seems that Anna Ashayana is deluded
with her own sense of importance.

Who would put much clout in any criticism from a source such as her ?!

Plus I think she needs some help with her addiction issues.




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Youre all quite mad, arent you
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Youre all quite mad, arent you
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Re: a Letter from James of Wingmakers regarding statements made by A'shayana Deane in her interview
I think James just doesn't like somebody putting a dark twist on his work.

A'shayana in that interview said James as well as Drunvalo Melchizedek are not of the light which I find funny because the only person spouting Fear based idea's is A'shayana herself.
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FUCK YOU, who cares what she says she has the right to say it. Let people make up their own minds.

The very fact he want her statements EDITED proves he's full of shit.


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I believe the same cosmic intelligence is behind all of these "Authors", it is the Wingmakers, the Ancients. I believe that these works of "ET cultural Libraries" left for us acts as portals to those who are awakening to help gain understanding.

I believe these websites are kinda like spreading a tone/vibration that will becon those who it is intended for, they will hear that call and be led to one of these sources on information which are all from the same source.

First Source.

We are both students and teachers endeavouring to fulfil our purpose of experiencing and sharing the living universe. Through our endeavours of helping others transcend darkness, we have bestowed novel possibilities to contribute to the evolution of many species. We have broadened our knowledge and understanding to embrace all living creatures in the universe. We have studied the design inherent to all things including the personal nature of human beings. We have found ways to bring love into our lives and also ways to give it away. We have generated random acts of kindness knowing that kindness will build on itself as much as hatred can. We have gone beyond the conventional to the imaginative, the mysterious, the unusual and the unexpected to express the inexpressible in these words before you. Our pledge is to never let a species be imprisoned by any system that consumes life.
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That's funny since Wingmakers is the most debunked of them all. I don't know anyone who thinks wingmakers is for real. Starfire Tor actually proved them to be a hoax. You are a joke MLH, and a

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That's funny since Wingmakers is the most debunked of them all. I don't know anyone who thinks wingmakers is for real. Starfire Tor actually proved them to be a hoax. You are a joke MLH, and a shill
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Re: a Letter from James of Wingmakers regarding statements made by A'shayana Deane in her interview
I think James just doesn't like somebody putting a dark twist on his work.

A'shayana in that interview said James as well as Drunvalo Melchizedek are not of the light which I find funny because the only person spouting Fear based idea's is A'shayana herself.



I watched the first third of that Anna Hayes-In-A-Haze/Ashayana Deane interview
and couldn't take much more.

She reminds me of a COKE FIEND, imbalanced and UNGROUNDED.

I do not see her operating from an integrated Heart chakra/Root chakra energy
but instead very much stuck in the mental body,
like a person with DISASSOCIATED PERSONALITY DISORDER,
such as what people with Multiple personalities acquired from childhood sexual abuse have.

She bears all the earmarks.

People who have not healed those inner wounds,
dissassociate from big chunks of their Identity,
and those disassociated compartments are easily taken over for entity possession and mind control.

She may earnestly BELIEVE that what she is espousing is true,
but that doesn't MAKE it true !

I simply don't trust her.

Plus, what kind of enlightened person needs to draw attention to them self
through the act of attempting to de-fame OTHERS ?!

About ten years ago it was Barbara Marciniak's work
(which I feel is a million times more accurate than Anna's)
that she was denigrating.

Then she knocked Drunvalo,
now it's James of the Wingmakers !

It seems that Anna Ashayana is deluded
with her own sense of importance.

Who would put much clout in any criticism from a source such as her ?!

Plus I think she needs some help with her addiction issues.




peace

book
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She freaks me out too, I listened to one of her lectures and although it was fascinating, I felt it was all a big misdirection. She seemed so desperate to convince.

James' work, on the other hand, impresses me as being designed to help people come to their own conclusions about the material he presents.

Her attacks on James makes me even more suspicious of her agenda.
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I think Kerry Cassidy eats up any negative thing she is presented with. Having listened to a number of Project Camelot interviews, it seemed like she was always piping up from the peanut gallery with some negative interpretation when none was intended or expected by the interviewee. Give her something negative and she will run with it for the next hour.
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This is all from SATAN!!! Oh, and big boobs cause earthquakes. Everybody knows that.
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This is all from SATAN!!! Oh, and big boobs cause earthquakes. Everybody knows that.
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I think James just doesn't like somebody putting a dark twist on his work.

A'shayana in that interview said James as well as Drunvalo Melchizedek are not of the light which I find funny because the only person spouting Fear based idea's is A'shayana herself.



I watched the first third of that Anna Hayes-In-A-Haze/Ashayana Deane interview
and couldn't take much more.

She reminds me of a COKE FIEND, imbalanced and UNGROUNDED.

I do not see her operating from an integrated Heart chakra/Root chakra energy
but instead very much stuck in the mental body,
like a person with DISASSOCIATED PERSONALITY DISORDER,
such as what people with Multiple personalities acquired from childhood sexual abuse have.

She bears all the earmarks.

People who have not healed those inner wounds,
dissassociate from big chunks of their Identity,
and those disassociated compartments are easily taken over for entity possession and mind control.

She may earnestly BELIEVE that what she is espousing is true,
but that doesn't MAKE it true !

I simply don't trust her.

Plus, what kind of enlightened person needs to draw attention to them self
through the act of attempting to de-fame OTHERS ?!

About ten years ago it was Barbara Marciniak's work
(which I feel is a million times more accurate than Anna's)
that she was denigrating.

Then she knocked Drunvalo,
now it's James of the Wingmakers !

It seems that Anna Ashayana is deluded
with her own sense of importance.

Who would put much clout in any criticism from a source such as her ?!

Plus I think she needs some help with her addiction issues.




peace

book
/\


She freaks me out too, I listened to one of her lectures and although it was fascinating, I felt it was all a big misdirection. She seemed so desperate to convince.

James' work, on the other hand, impresses me as being designed to help people come to their own conclusions about the material he presents.

Her attacks on James makes me even more suspicious of her agenda.
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Ashayana Deane isn't desperate to convince anybody of anything...she knows that she has limited time to make the info of the Guardian Alliance available to those who will listen!
James of Wingmakers is the one who doesn't want anyone critiquing his work.....that's actually very suspicious!
Anyone should be able to stand within their own truth without it being diminished in any way, even when someone doesn't agree with the premise of the info that he's presenting.
However, this sort of critical thinking is usually lost on some of the folks that visit GLP....!
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michael, i think you are involved with beings who are the facilitators of the death star mechanics. you believe them to be the ultimate expression of love, but thaat's only because you haven't yet pierced the veil.
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michael, i think you are involved with beings who are the facilitators of the death star mechanics. you believe them to be the ultimate expression of love, but thaat's only because you haven't yet pierced the veil.
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Why would you think that?
If you have not made peace with the self, if you do not live in peace self-sustainably in your being, then what do you have to offer to another? How then can peace come to be for the world, if you are not willing to seek it within? -Eliakim
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michael, i think you are involved with beings who are the facilitators of the death star mechanics. you believe them to be the ultimate expression of love, but thaat's only because you haven't yet pierced the veil.

Why would you think that?
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+1
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michael, i think you are involved with beings who are the facilitators of the death star mechanics. you believe them to be the ultimate expression of love, but thaat's only because you haven't yet pierced the veil.
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And what is "facilitators of the death star mechanics" ?

Thanks.

Peace,
Michael
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Re: a Letter from James of Wingmakers regarding statements made by A'shayana Deane in her interview
I've been tuned into the WINGMAKERS mythos for a while now. I was initially repulsed by it, but eventually I came around to it.

His material is very suggestive, and hypnotic; without explanation.

On the other hand, A'shayana explained exactly what I was getting myself into. I hadn't heard about her until the OP of this thread brought this letter to my attention.

Subsequently, I watched all three videos and I'm resonating really well to it.

Thanks OP...
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Re: a Letter from James of Wingmakers regarding statements made by A'shayana Deane in her interview
Why don't you guys just send both Orflin and Doug an email at:

orflin_g_champion@hotmail.com

dougsnedden@hotmail.com

and ask them if they are actually the same person.

I like Doug's blog at:

[link to dougsnedden.bloger.com]

The geocities stuff I couldn't find.

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