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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!
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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002392


we could say the same thing about britian. Or any country. whats dumber. An american or a brit.
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Fear mongering.

EVERYONE in the world knows not to fuck with the U.S.A.


We WILL find you..and you WILL pay the price.

Whens the last time someone invaded us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002393


When was the last time you woke up to realize that this isn't the sixties anymore? Everyone has nukes now!... The USA glory days are over, have been for years.

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They are after your freedoms.
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What freedoms, we don't have any, russians have more than we do
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Isoroku Yamamoto - "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

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the usa already got taken over by the london banksters. YOUr all slaves to the banksters. Learn it someday. Slave.
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During the Civil War (1863), Russian Czarist navy made a surprise port call in San Francisco, forcing the British and the French to withdraw support for the Confederacy against the Union. Czar Alexander II sent a clear message to the British and the French that Russia would support the North's side if the British and the French support the South in the war.

Without the additional arms and supplies from the British-French, the South couldn't win their campaigns against the North, thanks to the Russians and Czar Alexander II, who sold Alaska and the Aleutian Islands to the USA in 1867.
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Rothschilds were pissed at the Czar and vowed revenge. They staked that the Southern Illuminati would win.

They got their revenge several times and finally culminating with the 1917 and murder of the Czar's family.

Whenever a country lends a hand to America, its leaders bite the dest. ie. France, Louis XVI and the Czar. Coincidence i guess.
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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002392


Well it that were true you can bet that we would be sure to take out the rest of the world with us, including your sorry ass!
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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002392

...and your nation has so many alcoholics ....most would just be hung over in the pub...
and most of you willingly gave up your guns and knives long ago.

so, you couldnt even defend yourselves in your druken stupor if you wanted to...
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They are after your freedoms.
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that's easy for you to say... y'all gave up your guns... and when we get done with these fucks... we'll come see what we can't do to help y'all get your guns back...

You Brits are way to polite, just becuase somebody asks you for something... it doesn't you have to hand it over... Damn boy!
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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!

...and your nation has so many alcoholics ....most would just be hung over in the pub...
and most of you willingly gave up your guns and knives long ago.

so, you couldnt even defend yourselves in your druken stupor if you wanted to...
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so, most of you couldnt even defen yourselves in your drunken stupor if you wanted to...
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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002392


What's your opinion worth? You are a Brit and you Brits are known the world over for having no balls.

We kicked your ass in the 1770's - near the height of your nations empire. Then we kicked it again in the War of 1812.

Not to mention that we saved your asses twice: WWI and II.

So STFU and stop trolling our thread, Tommyknocker.
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The sheer logistics of sending an army to the U.S. -- from anywhere other than a hostile Mexico or Canada (which would be taken care of before it became reality) -- is unfathomable and unrealistic. It would be like shooting ducks on a pond.

Not to mention the fact 100+ million Americans with guns have enough to arm the rest of the population. Humans are tribal in nature, and the loyalty is fierce in this country!
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This guy is an ahole.

He needs to be banned from here.

America is not a place to invade and everyone knows this. What the invaders would encounter is not pretty. America is a well armed place ...armed to the teeth in more ways than one. See, you have red necks with guns, big city drug cartel gangs with guns....all kinds of different populations masses in America with guns and whatever else. America is not like any other country. This is what the so called invaders would find out really fast. America would be a nightmare to invade...
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The first thing invaders would find is that NO ONE in CA
is armed but the gang bangers, most of whom are illegal
hispanicis and blacks.

Most of them would join up with whatever invader showed up.

Though there is military defense on the coast, it is not
geared to take out a handful of relatively small invaders
of this type, who pretend to be paying guests till they
slip in past the subs.

Sorry to break this to you but the stoners on Venice Beach
will most likely crap their pants and go down saying
what the f. . . . in encouters with foreign armed military
invasion.

What is Ahnold going to do, stride out to the shooting and
say something epic while firing a bazooka?

Are the gay boys in SF going to mount a civilian opposition to foreign hostile invasion?

Does anyone see Barack Obama doing anything but lighting a cigarette and striking a pose, waiting for teleprompter cues?

Hostiles wouldn't get past CA, but an invasion of CA similar to the Chinese invasion of Tibet, would decimate
the civilian population there. They threw down arms long
ago.

Do you have any idea how many refineries are in CA?
And the fishing will be how much of the seafood source
with the gulf gone? Maybe 100%?

Americans are successfully villianized internationally.
Not our government. Us. We The People. And though our
government is part and party of this villianization, We
The People will pay the price.

I'm not saying this is it.
I'm just saying, if this is it, or tomorrow is it,
or the next day, We The People better be ready to
deal with it, until there is an American citizen in office
who has not sold his soul to the NWO.
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They are after your freedoms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002405


What freedoms do Americans have to lose? Seems the corporate UNITED STATES has seen to it that there may be one or two left - like freedom to chew gum, or freedom to fart. That's about it.

Seems so damned easy to get Americans to hate the two countries that has saved America's ass over the historical times of the USA - France and Russia. And, if it weren't for Japan and China providing welfare for America in the last 1/2 century or so, Americans would be living like the Zimbabweans now exist under the Jesuit controlled Mugabwe.

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They are after your freedoms.


What freedoms do Americans have to lose? Seems the corporate UNITED STATES has seen to it that there may be one or two left - like freedom to chew gum, or freedom to fart. That's about it.

Seems so damned easy to get Americans to hate the two countries that has saved America's ass over the historical times of the USA - France and Russia. And, if it weren't for Japan and China providing welfare for America in the last 1/2 century or so, Americans would be living like the Zimbabweans now exist under the Jesuit controlled Mugabwe.
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I think that British A/C was being sarcastic.
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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002392



This isn't a dig at the US - and sure our country has been sold out just like yours - this is aimed at the retards thinking they are going to deter the Chinese army by hiding away in hillbilly shacks in the mountains!
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They are after your freedoms.


What freedoms do Americans have to lose? Seems the corporate UNITED STATES has seen to it that there may be one or two left - like freedom to chew gum, or freedom to fart. That's about it.

Seems so damned easy to get Americans to hate the two countries that has saved America's ass over the historical times of the USA - France and Russia. And, if it weren't for Japan and China providing welfare for America in the last 1/2 century or so, Americans would be living like the Zimbabweans now exist under the Jesuit controlled Mugabwe.
 Quoting: Ganid


true the corporate elite have made everyone in the usa a slave.
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wow russian with an israeli accent. pretty cool.
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you like that?
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Your nation is like a pack of cards waiting to collapse! - one EMP blast from say a NK sub or freighter and 90% + of your population would starve within a yr or be killed in the ensuing ethnic based civil wars. There would be no-one manning the subs or nukes you would be defenceless - China could just waltz in and claim your country, they might as well since they own most of it by now - and don't think this hasn't occurred to them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002392


Yeah we're in trouble... but not as much as those who are pissing us off.

I'm A Fuckin' American!!!! Don't make me get off my ass to do something, especially if it has to do with protecting my home and Family, because whoever it is... the one who makes me get off my ass because you're fuckin with my wife, kids, dog, beer, Football, Fishing, and rodeos will wind up with their head on the fuckin floor and my shit and piss runnin' down their throat!

Oh and just remember, the worlds greatest marksman with a .50cal sniper rifle is a fuckin American Marine, and I think Trinity is working on giving him a run for his money.
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WHAT? We dont deserve to be invaded? I have news for you, WE DO. Especially as UK forces DC to take over the world like a bunch or whack jobs.

We don't have the brains or balls to clean up the mess in DC and UK, and the Joint Chiefs are traitors, cowards or owned by UK, the British people sit around on their asses with their mouths open... so heck yeah, HERE THEY COME. Stroll right in. UK will be invaded too.

At some people need to ask themselves, whats harder. Taking on the mob or 4 invading countries? 5000 or 5,000,000?

wake up
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Actually we need the Russian's to invade us maybe they can secure the fucking borders and rounds up all the Mexicans and send them home.
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That little video is a propaganda masterpiece.

Whoever put it together, did a wonderful job.

THe comments posted here already show just how effective it is.

With the NLP techniques used by the speaker, I expect it wil push all the right buttons with the easily led and easily decieved.
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They are after your freedoms.


What freedoms do Americans have to lose? Seems the corporate UNITED STATES has seen to it that there may be one or two left - like freedom to chew gum, or freedom to fart. That's about it.

Seems so damned easy to get Americans to hate the two countries that has saved America's ass over the historical times of the USA - France and Russia. And, if it weren't for Japan and China providing welfare for America in the last 1/2 century or so, Americans would be living like the Zimbabweans now exist under the Jesuit controlled Mugabwe.
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And which country steps in to send aid every time there is a disaster in the world, the USA


Nice name Gonad
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As I am sure you know, the US Economy is about to crash very soon. This event will have catastrophic effects on the American People. There will be many deaths due to what is going to happen. I will, to the best of my knowledge, give you the Timeline of events as I see it, some of these things you know are going to happen, others you might not know about. If you leave the United States within the next Week or so, you will be spare this fate. If you do leave, do not go to Canada, it is not safe. Go to either South America or Africa. Move near the Equator Everywhere else will eventually succumb to the events that are about to take place. You thought 'chemtrails', 'population control', 'nwo', 'Planet X' and 'illuminati' were the most of your troubles, you are sadly mistaken. I am assuming most of ATS posters are American, so this WILL affect you. Hoarding food, Gold, Silver, Guns act. These will not save you from this fate. I write these events to save those with eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart to listen so please do not bother with petty comments. Thank you and here is The Plan for the United States of America. It will unfold in time.

1.) US Economy Crashes. Dollar becomes worthless.

2.) Americans panic. Looting, murder, stealing, riots happen.

3.) Martial Law is declared. Military steps in, Borders close, all of America stops. Your 'freedom' is now null and void. All Guns are banned and Gold is banned (This may happen immediately after #1.)

4.) Americans are put into camps (not concentration camps.) to maintain order.

5.) Some succumb to Starvation*, other people also will be murdering themselves.

6.) The Chinese and Russians cut off 'Power Grid' to the United States of America.

7.) The Chinese Invade the USA, maybe the Russians also.

8.) Because nobody will be armed except for the 'Peace Keepers' the USA will fall.

9.) All of America is destroyed and split up between the nations who conquer it and most Americans are killed.

10.) The United States of America ends as we know it.

Now as far as I know, this is the 'plan'. I hope it does not happen, but I am sure it will. If you can leave the US within one week I suggest you get out. I have given instructions on where to go earlier. The US Economy should collapse within one month which will set these events into motion. Also expect some natural disasters to happen also.

This is a grave time for the USA. Leave if you can and be spared this fate.

*There is a food shortage in the US that has not been broadcast in the Major Media. Some sites have covered this. When the Dollar collapses the price of everything will rise due to Hyperinflation. This will make most of the American People panic and thus Martial Law will be initiated, and then comes in China's takeover.

If you plan on staying in America or can't leave, good luck. If you do decide to leave before Martial Law is activated, do so within the next few days-week. When Martial Law is active, the US Borders will close and you will be stuck. Plane tickets only cost about $1000-$2000. If you are short on money, sell whatever you own and buy a plane ticket out, even if itís your Car. Which do you value more, the Car or your life? If you donít have a Passport, try to get one rushed to you immediately by googling 'fast passport'. Also, if you get overseas before the US Economic Collapse, change currency immediately as the Dollar will be worthless.

I hope some good was done here.

Good luck.

Q: I do not see a urgency.

A: Thats because you are discount the food shortage. I am sure it will cause the economy to collapse. I say you have from now until Mid-June at the latest.

Q: I am preparing my family for this type of scenario already. I am not leaving the united states either.I will just have to stick and stay and see what happens.

A: Well do not be afraid. If these things I have written come to pass do not panic, fear is your worst enemy. Besides even if you do die, dont we all have to go someday?

Q: well I think your plan is far fetched for one reason, there are 300,000,000 Americans, and only roughly 2.5 Million Miltary personel. Good Luck with your martial law because I will not heistate to kill a soldier if he thinks I or my family are going to the Gulags.

A: Local Law Enforcement/SWAT teams will be also used and if not then that means China will cut the power and attack immediately then. I did not consider that.

Q: Care to share WHY you know and the rest of us don't?

A: No.

Q: Auditing the Fed will do this nicely and will push people to support a one-world financial system that will very quickly lead to a one-world government. This is why I believe Obama now supports this.

A: I believe you are misled and Obama is a puppet.

Q: Many people on here think that banning guns will be easy. There were measures put into place within the Constitution that basically says nobody can take away those rights.

This is not to say they may not try -- it just isn't as easy as some make it out to be. Further, one that I feel will be unsuccessful.

A: Martial Law Usurps the Constitution. If the 'Peace Keepers' are given a direct order to take your guns, they will.

Q: Camps for 300 million people? They would have to already have been built. Care to share where they are all located. 300 million is a rather large number.

A: They have been bulit and some old military installations will be used.

Q: Murdering yourself is called suicide and yes, that will be a possibility as people run out of hope and become more and more desperate. This is already happening on a small scale when people lost buckets when the market tanked last September.

A: The coming situation in America IS hopeless. There will be no economic recovery and the health care bill was designed and passed to keep the public distracted. It is no secret that the US Government cannot afford to fund that bill.

Q: This is a contradiction. You can not hope against something you already know is happening.

A: I can 'hope' regardless. Maybe something will happen to alter this situtation....I 'hope' something does but I dont think anything will.

Q: For those of us that don't know, care to tell us where you think we should all go? This is rather a huge declaration to make and is sure to get some people to panic.

A: If you believe, leave. If not stay. You will find out if you made the right decision by the end of 2010.

Q: And you are going to arrive in a foreign country penniless? You have now just become a FOREIGN homeless guy? How is THAT safe?

A: You misinterpret. If you sell everything immediately you should end up with more money than can be spent on a Plane Ticket. If you cannot afford to leave, well I guess your stuck.

Q: If the goal was to come up with the most fear-mongering thread yet, then yes, it was good for that.

A: Sometimes the facts are scary. The main thing to do is not to panic and logically figure out a way to leave. If the Nanking people were warned of the impending genocide of their people, would that have been considered 'fear-mongering'? Or would it be Reality. Americans do not want to accept the truth that their country in finished and that will cost them dearly.

I noticed you selected certain parts to reply to. What is your stance on the Spring US food shortage? or Chinas planned attack? or How the Russians and Chinese Spies hacked the US Power Grid? Why do you not question these?

Q: We know the Russians and Chinese will kill us, no use surrendering to die starving in a camp / gulag.

A: The fact is that you do realize America is finished? Don't worry, I'll fight with you. I am in America right now and will be here for these events. I will take up arms with you all and die with you all. :)

Q: I have nothing to be afraid about anyway. I am preparing for the worst just in case. Besides,I know that God is on His throne and Jesus is by His side.

A: Thats good, have 'faith'. I am not afraid either, just warning those who can still get out.

Q: The military we have could not even HOPE to contain, corral and send people to concentration camps. A military of 4 million trying to deal with a nation of almost 300 million, shooting at them from every corner, rooftop and ditch?

A: 1.) This is an overexaggeration. 300 million people do not have guns in the USA. Nor are they all trained marksmen capable of such a thing.

2.) You also doubt the skill of the 'Peace Keepers'. I was training attempt to be a Special Operations Solider (Pararescue) and have researched the military/swat teams/us marshals. They are highly skilled and can take on Americans.

3.) You underestimate the power of fear. If one is killed in front of others, resistace can be quelled. There will be 'Freedom Fighters' or 'Partriots' who stand up to this but they will all die.

Q: I'm sure you may believe all that in your heart of hearts right now but I just dont see it playing out quite that way,
not at all.I wont elaborate but there are neighborhoods I wouldnt go up against let alone entire states.You under estimate the response.

A: You simply don't understand. You have not even referred to the FOOD SHORTAGE in the USA! Or the impending attack by the Chinese or the Power grid being hacked. You are missing the Big Picture.

Q: You said China and Russia are going to kill most Americans. Why would they murder hundreds of millions of civilians and how?

A: I REALLY hope I am wrong about that part. But I was told the 'plan' will be a suprise attack. I think it will come from the West Coast. I hope I am dead wrong. If you cont know the chinese have already planned and practiced this:Link Here From the Air Force Times

Only they wont clash over Taiwan

Q: Oh good lord. A HUGE flaw in your thread is why on Earth would the US government just play tetris with 300MILLION people? Why not just seal off the cities.

A: You are probably right. I did not state that EVERYONE would be moved. If you have a house and food you will stay. Although they are going to take your guns. If you live in a rural area, you should be fine.

Q: Not to mention law enforcement and SWAT and military all have families here. Do you really think every single police officer and soldier are all brainwashed enough to turn against their own parents, wives and children?

A: It's not about that! They aren't going to go around slaughtering people, all they are going to try to do is maintain order after this system collapses. They are not savages, they are honorable men. And again I never said every law enforcemetnt officer is going to follow orders. I am sure a quite a few patriots are going to fight this. And you are taking this out of order. 1.) Collapse 2.) Mass Panic 3.) Martial Law: This will happen only after people start going crazy. "Order Out of Chaos" Remember. If nobody panics and everyone sticks together and supports each other after the dollar collapses, they things should be ok..for a little bit.

Q: That's easier than relocating them to camps for no logical reason. You do not understand the order of magnitude of THREE HUNDRED MILLION. That is a LOT of people. So how are they logistically going to support the mass relocation of that many people? There are not enough trains, busses, APCs, troop transports, or even enough troops or law enforcement in the US to carry out that kind of relocation. Where are they going to get the food, water, clothing, beds or even find space for that many people?? And please tell me WHY are they going to move EVERYONE in the US into camps? Why not just keep them in the cities?

A: I did not say EVERYONE will be moved. There will be relocations though, but alot of people will be able to stay in their homes. That is why it is important to have food on hand...and tihis is even if you discount China/Russia. Besides, have you even read whats in the Martial Law plans? Do you know what the Government will be able to do LEGALLY when it is inacted? They can take over everything.

Q: If the dollar is worthless how do you expect the US and the military to afford all this? Gas, trucks, maintenance, food, bedding, clothing, medical care, ammo, guns, water: these are all expenses that the military has to spend DOLLARS on. Where are they going to get the funding for that kind of operation if the dollar is worthless?

A: They already have those things, why would they need to, everything would be rationed. There will be no need to buy anything...this isnt some little state, this is the Government. Martial Law gives them the power to take over ALL RESOURCES!

Q: As a patriot mama and a gun owner. I would rather die fighting back, then hiding away in another country like a coward. Now, if yellowstone erupts...bye, bye!

A: Its not about that. People will be fighting each other because almost nobody is prepared for whats about to happen. Do you have food stored up and a gun? Because after the Dollar Collapses people will try to take your food instead of not panicking and working together as a community.

If yellowstone erupts now, the whole earth is in trouble. But I dont think that will happen.

Q: It just won't happen. The only way they can win is through biological warfare. And they know that those bugs can mutate and take them out as well. That is why they haven't done so on the planet already.

A: That is EXACTLY the reason why Biological attacks by Governments is a Hoax. This is why Swine Flu did not do what the media propagated. It was contained, as all Bio-attacks would be.

Q: And how do you think that China or Russia is going to shut down the power? We took care of that issue back in the late 90's. All our power is generated within the US and the individual states.

A: They hacked the grid back in 2008 and you can be sure that they did not stop then. It was 2 years ago when they hacked the Pentagon. If they can hack the PENTAGON'S SECURITY SYSTEM what makes you think your town cannot and has not be infiltrated. If you donít believe this, Google: US electricity grid hacked. China and Russia deny this but of course they would.

Q: And as a former MP and law enforcement, I can tell you that most of them will join our side and restore the constitution, which is what we all swore to protect, and take the country back. I have spoken with many of them

A: I am sure that some will try. The Michigan Milita just tried a coup and failed. I am not saying that the soldiers and 'Peace Keepers' are evil. No, they are some of the most honorable and selfless people I have ever known. I sure hope they win if they try.

Q: The people that are planning to take guns? If everyone I know takes 2 or 3 out for every time they try to take guns from a home, there won't be anyone left to finish taking the other 120 million guns.

A: As a former MP you know full and well if an armed suspect points a Gun at you, you would shoot them in a heartbeat. Anyone who raises a Gun to the people trying to take it will be shot. This is common sense. You know scenarios are practiced like this. Hell, I would shoot someone if they pointed a Gun at me. If you are told to drop your weapon and you raise your weapon at them, KYAGB.

Q: I don't recall the Admirals name in WWII that said this, "All we have done is awaken a sleeping giant". That is the American people. And another statement I recall was when he was talking about invasion of America. He said," There will be a gun behind every blade of grass". That is how Russia and China see us as well.

A: That is a myth. There is not a Gun literally or figuratively, waiting behind every blade of grass. Only about 40% of people in the US own Guns, and maybe 5-10% of those are highly skilled marksmen, imo. Do you have higher numbers?

Q: Yes I just created this account, I've been lurking for maybe under a month. I've had no reason to step forward but when I saw this thread I thought it would be about time.

For a second, let's just say martial law was declared, the borders would be closed and all hell would break loose. The economic collapse of the dollar would cause riots and violent acts.

Now let's say the glaciers were to suddenly melt, the sea levels would rise and most of North America would be underwater. If one wanted to avoid such a disaster it would be a good idea to get somewhere high up- in the mountains would be your best bet.

And lastly I would have made a reply to his previous thread but by the time I discovered it Illuminator was inactive.

A: I am trying to get these people to safety and all they want to do is argue. I am glad you are with me. And also ATS posters are apparently ignoring the climate problems on a Global Scale. Tennesse just flooded the other day. There are many Natural Disasters happening now. Like I stated before "Do not worry about 2012". You need to get to where you will be in 2012 NOW!

Q: I really laugh and say with confidence there is NO WAY another country could invade the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, we have the best trained armed forces in the world. and alot of those with the training are National Guard and Reserves.

A: That is how alot of people think. Arrogance will be their downfall.

Q: And yes there are Special ops soldiers "Rangers and Green Berets" that are civilians just waiting to be called up or defend in a moments notice. aside from the notion we will be invaded any invasion will have to be a ground assault. any air will be dealt with with extreme prejudice

A: I know this. I did not say that America would not fight. All I said is that they will lose. Also, You apparently don't know about how the Chinese/Russian hackers compromised the power grid. If the Power goes out, then what? I know what, you will ALL be taken by surprise. "Hit them first, fast, and hard." This is the reason why Hitler's Blitzkrieg was so sucessful.

Q: Those forces will have to enter via West coast (Cali,OR.WA.) East coast (N.Y. D.C. S and N carolina Georgia) Gulf coast (Texas,LA.Ms.Ala.) when they hit one of these 3 coasts here is a short list of folks they will encounter

Gangster Disciples, Bloods, Crips, Black Disciples, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, The 18th Street Gang, Vice Lords, Black P. Stones, Tiny Rascal Gang, , Friends Stand United, Armenian Power, Trinitario, Outlaws, and Bandidos, criminal organizations including the American Mafia the Irish Mob, the Israeli mafia, the Japanese Yakuza, and various white supremacist groups including the Ku Klux Klan

Thats not including Armed law abiding citizens and national Guard

A: Excluding the national guard and ex military people. I highly doubt any of these groups have the training required to defeat any military group. Gangsters will not be the heros of America. They do not care about America, they care about themselves. They will probably try to kill you for your food. Besides all China needs to do is have an emergency draft. They could have 500 million soldiers. They would just keep throwing bodies until you guys are finished.

Q: OHH i think that kinda kills the rounding
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Of course we are bad and nasty. Each home in America has 1 to 10 guns. Women can shoot too. But that still doesn't make it cool to loose 50,000,000 people defending the country when all we need to do is arrest the Obama administration. Even easier, force all the representatives to resign. Obama would need to pack up shop and leave.

Save lives, Impeach Obama.
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The russians couldn't control Afghanistan - a land of warring tribes with little or no communication between them.

America, on the other hand, would be a boiling pot of hell. Think about it guys. The Crips, the Bloods, the rednecks, and the yankees would all come together on the same team. It would actually be a terrific way to unite all of us here in the States. It'd be a turkey shoot!
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for once this white boy might actually be glad to live in a black neighborhood in Los Angeles. most of them understand me because I'm a 9/11 Truther.
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As I am sure you know, the US Economy is about to crash very soon. This event will have catastrophic effects on the American People. There will be many deaths due to what is going to happen. I will, to the best of my knowledge, give you the Timeline of events as I see it, some of these things you know are going to happen, others you might not know about. If you leave the United States within the next Week or so, you will be spare this fate. If you do leave, do not go to Canada, it is not safe. Go to either South America or Africa. Move near the Equator Everywhere else will eventually succumb to the events that are about to take place. You thought 'chemtrails', 'population control', 'nwo', 'Planet X' and 'illuminati' were the most of your troubles, you are sadly mistaken. I am assuming most of ATS posters are American, so this WILL affect you. Hoarding food, Gold, Silver, Guns act. These will not save you from this fate. I write these events to save those with eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart to listen so please do not bother with petty comments. Thank you and here is The Plan for the United States of America. It will unfold in time.

1.) US Economy Crashes. Dollar becomes worthless.

2.) Americans panic. Looting, murder, stealing, riots happen.

3.) Martial Law is declared. Military steps in, Borders close, all of America stops. Your 'freedom' is now null and void. All Guns are banned and Gold is banned (This may happen immediately after #1.)

4.) Americans are put into camps (not concentration camps.) to maintain order.

5.) Some succumb to Starvation*, other people also will be murdering themselves.

6.) The Chinese and Russians cut off 'Power Grid' to the United States of America.

7.) The Chinese Invade the USA, maybe the Russians also.

8.) Because nobody will be armed except for the 'Peace Keepers' the USA will fall.

9.) All of America is destroyed and split up between the nations who conquer it and most Americans are killed.

10.) The United States of America ends as we know it.

Now as far as I know, this is the 'plan'. I hope it does not happen, but I am sure it will. If you can leave the US within one week I suggest you get out. I have given instructions on where to go earlier. The US Economy should collapse within one month which will set these events into motion. Also expect some natural disasters to happen also.

This is a grave time for the USA. Leave if you can and be spared this fate.

*There is a food shortage in the US that has not been broadcast in the Major Media. Some sites have covered this. When the Dollar collapses the price of everything will rise due to Hyperinflation. This will make most of the American People panic and thus Martial Law will be initiated, and then comes in China's takeover.

If you plan on staying in America or can't leave, good luck. If you do decide to leave before Martial Law is activated, do so within the next few days-week. When Martial Law is active, the US Borders will close and you will be stuck. Plane tickets only cost about $1000-$2000. If you are short on money, sell whatever you own and buy a plane ticket out, even if itís your Car. Which do you value more, the Car or your life? If you donít have a Passport, try to get one rushed to you immediately by googling 'fast passport'. Also, if you get overseas before the US Economic Collapse, change currency immediately as the Dollar will be worthless.

I hope some good was done here.

Good luck.

Q: I do not see a urgency.

A: Thats because you are discount the food shortage. I am sure it will cause the economy to collapse. I say you have from now until Mid-June at the latest.

Q: I am preparing my family for this type of scenario already. I am not leaving the united states either.I will just have to stick and stay and see what happens.

A: Well do not be afraid. If these things I have written come to pass do not panic, fear is your worst enemy. Besides even if you do die, dont we all have to go someday?

Q: well I think your plan is far fetched for one reason, there are 300,000,000 Americans, and only roughly 2.5 Million Miltary personel. Good Luck with your martial law because I will not heistate to kill a soldier if he thinks I or my family are going to the Gulags.

A: Local Law Enforcement/SWAT teams will be also used and if not then that means China will cut the power and attack immediately then. I did not consider that.

Q: Care to share WHY you know and the rest of us don't?

A: No.

Q: Auditing the Fed will do this nicely and will push people to support a one-world financial system that will very quickly lead to a one-world government. This is why I believe Obama now supports this.

A: I believe you are misled and Obama is a puppet.

Q: Many people on here think that banning guns will be easy. There were measures put into place within the Constitution that basically says nobody can take away those rights.

This is not to say they may not try -- it just isn't as easy as some make it out to be. Further, one that I feel will be unsuccessful.

A: Martial Law Usurps the Constitution. If the 'Peace Keepers' are given a direct order to take your guns, they will.

Q: Camps for 300 million people? They would have to already have been built. Care to share where they are all located. 300 million is a rather large number.

A: They have been bulit and some old military installations will be used.

Q: Murdering yourself is called suicide and yes, that will be a possibility as people run out of hope and become more and more desperate. This is already happening on a small scale when people lost buckets when the market tanked last September.

A: The coming situation in America IS hopeless. There will be no economic recovery and the health care bill was designed and passed to keep the public distracted. It is no secret that the US Government cannot afford to fund that bill.

Q: This is a contradiction. You can not hope against something you already know is happening.

A: I can 'hope' regardless. Maybe something will happen to alter this situtation....I 'hope' something does but I dont think anything will.

Q: For those of us that don't know, care to tell us where you think we should all go? This is rather a huge declaration to make and is sure to get some people to panic.

A: If you believe, leave. If not stay. You will find out if you made the right decision by the end of 2010.

Q: And you are going to arrive in a foreign country penniless? You have now just become a FOREIGN homeless guy? How is THAT safe?

A: You misinterpret. If you sell everything immediately you should end up with more money than can be spent on a Plane Ticket. If you cannot afford to leave, well I guess your stuck.

Q: If the goal was to come up with the most fear-mongering thread yet, then yes, it was good for that.

A: Sometimes the facts are scary. The main thing to do is not to panic and logically figure out a way to leave. If the Nanking people were warned of the impending genocide of their people, would that have been considered 'fear-mongering'? Or would it be Reality. Americans do not want to accept the truth that their country in finished and that will cost them dearly.

I noticed you selected certain parts to reply to. What is your stance on the Spring US food shortage? or Chinas planned attack? or How the Russians and Chinese Spies hacked the US Power Grid? Why do you not question these?

Q: We know the Russians and Chinese will kill us, no use surrendering to die starving in a camp / gulag.

A: The fact is that you do realize America is finished? Don't worry, I'll fight with you. I am in America right now and will be here for these events. I will take up arms with you all and die with you all. :)

Q: I have nothing to be afraid about anyway. I am preparing for the worst just in case. Besides,I know that God is on His throne and Jesus is by His side.

A: Thats good, have 'faith'. I am not afraid either, just warning those who can still get out.

Q: The military we have could not even HOPE to contain, corral and send people to concentration camps. A military of 4 million trying to deal with a nation of almost 300 million, shooting at them from every corner, rooftop and ditch?

A: 1.) This is an overexaggeration. 300 million people do not have guns in the USA. Nor are they all trained marksmen capable of such a thing.

2.) You also doubt the skill of the 'Peace Keepers'. I was training attempt to be a Special Operations Solider (Pararescue) and have researched the military/swat teams/us marshals. They are highly skilled and can take on Americans.

3.) You underestimate the power of fear. If one is killed in front of others, resistace can be quelled. There will be 'Freedom Fighters' or 'Partriots' who stand up to this but they will all die.

Q: I'm sure you may believe all that in your heart of hearts right now but I just dont see it playing out quite that way,
not at all.I wont elaborate but there are neighborhoods I wouldnt go up against let alone entire states.You under estimate the response.

A: You simply don't understand. You have not even referred to the FOOD SHORTAGE in the USA! Or the impending attack by the Chinese or the Power grid being hacked. You are missing the Big Picture.

Q: You said China and Russia are going to kill most Americans. Why would they murder hundreds of millions of civilians and how?

A: I REALLY hope I am wrong about that part. But I was told the 'plan' will be a suprise attack. I think it will come from the West Coast. I hope I am dead wrong. If you cont know the chinese have already planned and practiced this:Link Here From the Air Force Times

Only they wont clash over Taiwan

Q: Oh good lord. A HUGE flaw in your thread is why on Earth would the US government just play tetris with 300MILLION people? Why not just seal off the cities.

A: You are probably right. I did not state that EVERYONE would be moved. If you have a house and food you will stay. Although they are going to take your guns. If you live in a rural area, you should be fine.

Q: Not to mention law enforcement and SWAT and military all have families here. Do you really think every single police officer and soldier are all brainwashed enough to turn against their own parents, wives and children?

A: It's not about that! They aren't going to go around slaughtering people, all they are going to try to do is maintain order after this system collapses. They are not savages, they are honorable men. And again I never said every law enforcemetnt officer is going to follow orders. I am sure a quite a few patriots are going to fight this. And you are taking this out of order. 1.) Collapse 2.) Mass Panic 3.) Martial Law: This will happen only after people start going crazy. "Order Out of Chaos" Remember. If nobody panics and everyone sticks together and supports each other after the dollar collapses, they things should be ok..for a little bit.

Q: That's easier than relocating them to camps for no logical reason. You do not understand the order of magnitude of THREE HUNDRED MILLION. That is a LOT of people. So how are they logistically going to support the mass relocation of that many people? There are not enough trains, busses, APCs, troop transports, or even enough troops or law enforcement in the US to carry out that kind of relocation. Where are they going to get the food, water, clothing, beds or even find space for that many people?? And please tell me WHY are they going to move EVERYONE in the US into camps? Why not just keep them in the cities?

A: I did not say EVERYONE will be moved. There will be relocations though, but alot of people will be able to stay in their homes. That is why it is important to have food on hand...and tihis is even if you discount China/Russia. Besides, have you even read whats in the Martial Law plans? Do you know what the Government will be able to do LEGALLY when it is inacted? They can take over everything.

Q: If the dollar is worthless how do you expect the US and the military to afford all this? Gas, trucks, maintenance, food, bedding, clothing, medical care, ammo, guns, water: these are all expenses that the military has to spend DOLLARS on. Where are they going to get the funding for that kind of operation if the dollar is worthless?

A: They already have those things, why would they need to, everything would be rationed. There will be no need to buy anything...this isnt some little state, this is the Government. Martial Law gives them the power to take over ALL RESOURCES!

Q: As a patriot mama and a gun owner. I would rather die fighting back, then hiding away in another country like a coward. Now, if yellowstone erupts...bye, bye!

A: Its not about that. People will be fighting each other because almost nobody is prepared for whats about to happen. Do you have food stored up and a gun? Because after the Dollar Collapses people will try to take your food instead of not panicking and working together as a community.

If yellowstone erupts now, the whole earth is in trouble. But I dont think that will happen.

Q: It just won't happen. The only way they can win is through biological warfare. And they know that those bugs can mutate and take them out as well. That is why they haven't done so on the planet already.

A: That is EXACTLY the reason why Biological attacks by Governments is a Hoax. This is why Swine Flu did not do what the media propagated. It was contained, as all Bio-attacks would be.

Q: And how do you think that China or Russia is going to shut down the power? We took care of that issue back in the late 90's. All our power is generated within the US and the individual states.

A: They hacked the grid back in 2008 and you can be sure that they did not stop then. It was 2 years ago when they hacked the Pentagon. If they can hack the PENTAGON'S SECURITY SYSTEM what makes you think your town cannot and has not be infiltrated. If you donít believe this, Google: US electricity grid hacked. China and Russia deny this but of course they would.

Q: And as a former MP and law enforcement, I can tell you that most of them will join our side and restore the constitution, which is what we all swore to protect, and take the country back. I have spoken with many of them

A: I am sure that some will try. The Michigan Milita just tried a coup and failed. I am not saying that the soldiers and 'Peace Keepers' are evil. No, they are some of the most honorable and selfless people I have ever known. I sure hope they win if they try.

Q: The people that are planning to take guns? If everyone I know takes 2 or 3 out for every time they try to take guns from a home, there won't be anyone left to finish taking the other 120 million guns.

A: As a former MP you know full and well if an armed suspect points a Gun at you, you would shoot them in a heartbeat. Anyone who raises a Gun to the people trying to take it will be shot. This is common sense. You know scenarios are practiced like this. Hell, I would shoot someone if they pointed a Gun at me. If you are told to drop your weapon and you raise your weapon at them, KYAGB.

Q: I don't recall the Admirals name in WWII that said this, "All we have done is awaken a sleeping giant". That is the American people. And another statement I recall was when he was talking about invasion of America. He said," There will be a gun behind every blade of grass". That is how Russia and China see us as well.

A: That is a myth. There is not a Gun literally or figuratively, waiting behind every blade of grass. Only about 40% of people in the US own Guns, and maybe 5-10% of those are highly skilled marksmen, imo. Do you have higher numbers?

Q: Yes I just created this account, I've been lurking for maybe under a month. I've had no reason to step forward but when I saw this thread I thought it would be about time.

For a second, let's just say martial law was declared, the borders would be closed and all hell would break loose. The economic collapse of the dollar would cause riots and violent acts.

Now let's say the glaciers were to suddenly melt, the sea levels would rise and most of North America would be underwater. If one wanted to avoid such a disaster it would be a good idea to get somewhere high up- in the mountains would be your best bet.

And lastly I would have made a reply to his previous thread but by the time I discovered it Illuminator was inactive.

A: I am trying to get these people to safety and all they want to do is argue. I am glad you are with me. And also ATS posters are apparently ignoring the climate problems on a Global Scale. Tennesse just flooded the other day. There are many Natural Disasters happening now. Like I stated before "Do not worry about 2012". You need to get to where you will be in 2012 NOW!

Q: I really laugh and say with confidence there is NO WAY another country could invade the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, we have the best trained armed forces in the world. and alot of those with the training are National Guard and Reserves.

A: That is how alot of people think. Arrogance will be their downfall.

Q: And yes there are Special ops soldiers "Rangers and Green Berets" that are civilians just waiting to be called up or defend in a moments notice. aside from the notion we will be invaded any invasion will have to be a ground assault. any air will be dealt with with extreme prejudice

A: I know this. I did not say that America would not fight. All I said is that they will lose. Also, You apparently don't know about how the Chinese/Russian hackers compromised the power grid. If the Power goes out, then what? I know what, you will ALL be taken by surprise. "Hit them first, fast, and hard." This is the reason why Hitler's Blitzkrieg was so sucessful.

Q: Those forces will have to enter via West coast (Cali,OR.WA.) East coast (N.Y. D.C. S and N carolina Georgia) Gulf coast (Texas,LA.Ms.Ala.) when they hit one of these 3 coasts here is a short list of folks they will encounter

Gangster Disciples, Bloods, Crips, Black Disciples, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, The 18th Street Gang, Vice Lords, Black P. Stones, Tiny Rascal Gang, , Friends Stand United, Armenian Power, Trinitario, Outlaws, and Bandidos, criminal organizations including the American Mafia the Irish Mob, the Israeli mafia, the Japanese Yakuza, and various white supremacist groups including the Ku Klux Klan

Thats not including Armed law abiding citizens and national Guard

A: Excluding the national guard and ex military people. I highly doubt any of these groups have the training required to defeat any military group. Gangsters will not be the heros of America. They do not care about America, they care about themselves. They will probably try to kill you for your food. Besides all China needs to do is have an emergency draft. They could have 500 million soldiers. They would just keep throwing bodies until you guys are finished.

Q: OHH i think that kinda kills the rounding
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Dude, your thinking is half cooked. Stats are way off. Finish studying, and spend less time typing.
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Yeah we're in trouble... but not as much as those who are pissing us off.

I'm A Fuckin' American!!!! Don't make me get off my ass to do something, especially if it has to do with protecting my home and Family, because whoever it is... the one who makes me get off my ass because you're fuckin with my wife, kids, dog, beer, Football, Fishing, and rodeos will wind up with their head on the fuckin floor and my shit and piss runnin' down their throat!

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Yeah....then you should already be off your ass and hunting down the people responsible for the Gulf of Mexico Oil Catastrophe which is now seriously fuckin with your wife, kids, dog, beer, Football, Fishing, and rodeos.

Talk is cheap. Your inaction in the face of one of the most heinous crimes committed against the American public is happenning in the Gulf Of Mexica. It is going to fuck with your life in ways you can't even imagine. And you are doing nothing.

Yet you get wound up by some propaganda video that diverted your attention from the real issue of the day.


You wouldn't know your real enemy if he fucked you in the ass with a bayonet.
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Don't be sheep, all wrapped up in this bullshit. Focus on Impeaching Obama. Support David Manning, Alan Keys and others. Force reps to resign. Lacky governors as well.

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