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The fact is... this release has the potential to run for years. The reason not much is happening is because deep in the bushes "they know this."

Any attempt beyond picking at it is liable to collapse the entire cavity resulting in a catastrophic release of the entire contents in one fell swoop.

Even without such provocation this might happen anyway through natural cavitation and high pressure erosion.

The thing right now is to come to grips with the stark reality. The Gulf and the region is toast.

The only thing that could help right now is getting people to stop hoping and get real. How does this translate...

Mop up of a continuous bleed is heroic but hopeless. Making plans to relocate as many people and specie away from certain toxic demise is the only viable action.

Continuing false hope is the worst possible strategy... as each day slips by the reality will become harder to face and deal with. While people are floundering around picking up tar and whatever else... they could be engaged in evacuation and relocation of as many specie as possible.

The door will soon be closed on this one faint hope clause.

I know this is tough and heartless sounding but it is tough love.

That entire seaboard and marshland is a write off NOW, for generations to come.

Hope is a certain killer, no matter how elegant it is expressed.

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It's awful telling that there were no responses to this post.
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Yet the people along the coast are not being evacuated.


...Sad
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The folks in the Gulf region are still in the first stage. I keep waiting for the Anger to really set in...it is taking a hell of a long time.


Five stages of grief

1 - Denial Denial is a conscious or unconscious refusal to accept facts, information, reality, etc., relating to the situation concerned. It's a defence mechanism and perfectly natural. Some people can become locked in this stage when dealing with a traumatic change that can be ignored. Death of course is not particularly easy to avoid or evade indefinitely.

2 - Anger
Anger can manifest in different ways. People dealing with emotional upset can be angry with themselves, and/or with others, especially those close to them. Knowing this helps keep detached and non-judgemental when experiencing the anger of someone who is very upset.

3 - Bargaining
Traditionally the bargaining stage for people facing death can involve attempting to bargain with whatever God the person believes in. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?.." when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it's a matter of life or death.

4 - Depression
Also referred to as preparatory grieving. In a way it's the dress rehearsal or the practice run for the 'aftermath' although this stage means different things depending on whom it involves. It's a sort of acceptance with emotional attachment. It's natural to feel sadness and regret, fear, uncertainty, etc. It shows that the person has at least begun to accept the reality.
5 - Acceptance Again this stage definitely varies according to the person's situation, although broadly it is an indication that there is some emotional detachment and objectivity. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must necessarily pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief.
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It's awful telling that there were no responses to this post.
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yea
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"Even without such provocation this might happen anyway through natural cavitation and high pressure erosion."

this WILL eventually happen

many relief wells could help

the sand barriers could help

but I think everyone needs to just get out of there

we need those tough Southerners to help us save the rest of the country

stopping the Corexit will help

getting BP out of there and putting someone competent in control will help

otherwise forget it
next will be the east coast

we have been war upon for profit and control
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Agreed.

The new problem is the socio/political problems this will now cause.

And, as you say, let's not forget the geography. We know a fault line runs right up along the Mississippi River through lake Michigan and into Candada.

So many catastrophic events can now take place with this one 'mistake.'
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all true OP. it is hopeless, but like dude from china said, they have to go thru the stages of grief. the gov't has no intention of helping the people, so there they flounder in their grief process, until it is too late.
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It's awful telling that there were no responses to this post.

yea
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I am used to it :-) Thanks for jumping in folks :-)

I find it interesting here what gets attention and what gets response. Even after six years I have not figured it out.

I used to do the odd insider or alien thread just for shits and giggles... they go ok as long as you tend them like a weed garden :-)
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5 star thread.

Thanks for having the courage to post it, OP.

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THIS SHOULD BE PINNED>

As horrendous as the oil component of the spill might be, there is increasing "buzz" that the gas component might turn out to be the elephant in the room, not the oil.

If what is going around has any bases of fact then the final outcome may be a catastrophe no seen since Mt. Vesuvius erupted in Roman times.

The mechanism of the proposed event could have several different effects either as independent calamity or in combination.

the issue surround the escape of gas. It has been reported that untold volumes of gas are forming huge bubbles suspended in the ocean. These are measured in miles not feet in size. Eventually these bubbles will surface and at that point rupture and take the form of a gigantic release explosion.

The gases are both toxic and flammable. It is conceivable that the explosive force of such a gas bubble can induce a Tsunami effect. As the gas modules near the surface, all buoyancy of the water is lost, and anything floating in the vicinity would sink. This includes ships and other drill platforms.

I do not need to explain outcomes of these effects.

I am stating these things without knowing if there is a bases of fact to them and I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the phenomena as described. Normally I would not write about unconfirmed situations but in this case I have made an exception.

There are two elements that are absolutely true.

1. Oil is and has been leaking at an alarming rate for over sixty days.
2. Gas has been leaking at an alarming rate for over sixty days.


The end result of such a catastrophic event are not clearly known and it appears the authorities are not being forthright about what is transpiring or what consequences could emerge. It is for that reason I am publishing this. It is too far a large possible catastrophe to stay silent. Perhaps the life of even one person may be saved if they have been given the chance to read this. Publishing in error has no consequence.

I am including two video audio tracks in support of the theory here.

And also a 2003 Science report which supports what is being said.

Read more and distribute.

[link to beyondprophecy.blogspot.com]

In the interest of saving life!!!!
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Yet the people along the coast are not being evacuated.
...Sad
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That is why this should be pinned... tar balls is the least of it!!!
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Yet the people along the coast are not being evacuated.


...Sad
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And when they do, everyone will say its off to camp Obama, so THEY have to be careful with this.
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.
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Good, but sobering post

5*****
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Yet the people along the coast are not being evacuated.


...Sad

And when they do, everyone will say its off to camp Obama, so THEY have to be careful with this.
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Not if they have food while you don't
They'll be heros for a couple weeks.
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It's awful telling that there were no responses to this post.
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numbness setting in
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THIS SHOULD BE PINNED>

As horrendous as the oil component of the spill might be, there is increasing "buzz" that the gas component might turn out to be the elephant in the room, not the oil.

If what is going around has any bases of fact then the final outcome may be a catastrophe no seen since Mt. Vesuvius erupted in Roman times.

The mechanism of the proposed event could have several different effects either as independent calamity or in combination.

the issue surround the escape of gas. It has been reported that untold volumes of gas are forming huge bubbles suspended in the ocean. These are measured in miles not feet in size. Eventually these bubbles will surface and at that point rupture and take the form of a gigantic release explosion.

The gases are both toxic and flammable. It is conceivable that the explosive force of such a gas bubble can induce a Tsunami effect. As the gas modules near the surface, all buoyancy of the water is lost, and anything floating in the vicinity would sink. This includes ships and other drill platforms.

I do not need to explain outcomes of these effects.

I am stating these things without knowing if there is a bases of fact to them and I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the phenomena as described. Normally I would not write about unconfirmed situations but in this case I have made an exception.

There are two elements that are absolutely true.

1. Oil is and has been leaking at an alarming rate for over sixty days.
2. Gas has been leaking at an alarming rate for over sixty days.


The end result of such a catastrophic event are not clearly known and it appears the authorities are not being forthright about what is transpiring or what consequences could emerge. It is for that reason I am publishing this. It is too far a large possible catastrophe to stay silent. Perhaps the life of even one person may be saved if they have been given the chance to read this. Publishing in error has no consequence.

I am including two video audio tracks in support of the theory here.

And also a 2003 Science report which supports what is being said.

Read more and distribute.

[link to beyondprophecy.blogspot.com]

In the interest of saving life!!!!
 Quoting: TapeWorm



Gas to liquid ratio 3,000:1


Um,

Again

that's

3,000:1 Gases over Liquid


The Ozone Is ..............................................

The percipitation is ......................................

The crops are .............................................

Water sheds will ..........................................

Livestock will ............................................

Mankind .............[ Endgame ] ..........................
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
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and I live here on the coast, 6 miles from the beach. I just haven't made the transition from being hopeful to being realistic yet. I have no other place to go, no family, no job waiting. I am a few thousand dollars away from having nothing. A mistake at this stage of the game could put me on the streets. It is so incredibly frightening to think I could screw things up by leaving too soon and just as scary to think of being too late. I sincerely hope none of you guys are ever in a situation like this!
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Reality bump
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and I live here on the coast, 6 miles from the beach. I just haven't made the transition from being hopeful to being realistic yet. I have no other place to go, no family, no job waiting. I am a few thousand dollars away from having nothing. A mistake at this stage of the game could put me on the streets. It is so incredibly frightening to think I could screw things up by leaving too soon and just as scary to think of being too late. I sincerely hope none of you guys are ever in a situation like this!
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I don't think you can leave too early ... for your health.
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Good point, TapeWorm. And remember, the gas is odorless. When you have a gas stove or gas furnace, that "smell" that you smell is added so that you can detect a leak in or around your home. The natural stuff does not have that, so as the bubbles form and head for the surface - whether they ignite or not (and pray, everyone, that they do NOT), they are heavier than air and will slide along the surface and creep out towards shore. You can't smell it and it will kill you, and any little critter it encounters. Please, people, think about leaving.....
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The fact is... this release has the potential to run for years. The reason not much is happening is because deep in the bushes "they know this."

Any attempt beyond picking at it is liable to collapse the entire cavity resulting in a catastrophic release of the entire contents in one fell swoop.

Even without such provocation this might happen anyway through natural cavitation and high pressure erosion.

The thing right now is to come to grips with the stark reality. The Gulf and the region is toast.

The only thing that could help right now is getting people to stop hoping and get real. How does this translate...

Mop up of a continuous bleed is heroic but hopeless. Making plans to relocate as many people and specie away from certain toxic demise is the only viable action.

Continuing false hope is the worst possible strategy... as each day slips by the reality will become harder to face and deal with. While people are floundering around picking up tar and whatever else... they could be engaged in evacuation and relocation of as many specie as possible.

The door will soon be closed on this one faint hope clause.

I know this is tough and heartless sounding but it is tough love.

That entire seaboard and marshland is a write off NOW, for generations to come.

Hope is a certain killer, no matter how elegant it is expressed.
 Quoting: TapeWorm


I would like to argue with you but I see things going downhill from here on out. I am about 100 mi from the Gulf of Mexico. Downhill in ways we cannot yet fathom
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and I live here on the coast, 6 miles from the beach. I just haven't made the transition from being hopeful to being realistic yet. I have no other place to go, no family, no job waiting. I am a few thousand dollars away from having nothing. A mistake at this stage of the game could put me on the streets. It is so incredibly frightening to think I could screw things up by leaving too soon and just as scary to think of being too late. I sincerely hope none of you guys are ever in a situation like this!
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Come up to Philadelphia and hang out with me. Just GET OUT!
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wtf are we supposed to do? just leave everything? you 're the one who needs to get real.

Yeah, lemme just leave the house I bought not to long ago, and the great job I have. OH I'll also have to say goodbye to my family cause they arent leaving. My wife too.

wtf ever.

We are staying and we will clean it up. Enjoy Canada you piece of shit.
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wtf are we supposed to do? just leave everything? you 're the one who needs to get real.

Yeah, lemme just leave the house I bought not to long ago, and the great job I have. OH I'll also have to say goodbye to my family cause they arent leaving. My wife too.

wtf ever.

We are staying and we will clean it up. Enjoy Canada you piece of shit.
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You're going to die, and it will be tragic.
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wtf are we supposed to do? just leave everything? you 're the one who needs to get real.

Yeah, lemme just leave the house I bought not to long ago, and the great job I have. OH I'll also have to say goodbye to my family cause they arent leaving. My wife too.

wtf ever.

We are staying and we will clean it up. Enjoy Canada you piece of shit.


You're going to die, and it will be tragic.
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Menthane inhalation is not a happy death
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again lemme just pack all my shit on my back and leave cause MAYBE its gonna get SOOOO incredibly horrible that we all keel over dead from gas inhalation.

and where should the 100 million people go?

should we go to your house?

WE HAVE TO STAY HERE! logistically it just wont work. THere would be incredible strains across the system and civility would break down along with humanity.

If you want to quicken the death of Americam, just jam all of us into the shitty ass northern states. I'm sure we'll all get along great.
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again lemme just pack all my shit on my back and leave cause MAYBE its gonna get SOOOO incredibly horrible that we all keel over dead from gas inhalation.

and where should the 100 million people go?

should we go to your house?

WE HAVE TO STAY HERE! logistically it just wont work. THere would be incredible strains across the system and civility would break down along with humanity.

If you want to quicken the death of Americam, just jam all of us into the shitty ass northern states. I'm sure we'll all get along great.
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That was the point of my post. The authorities should be in an affirmative plan right now!!! not fiddling with tar balls and talking about some pipe dream in August, November, 2011...

They should be honest! They should be educating! They should be well into a specie relocation scenario including the folks...

Is that too big?

Well... look at the event... It is slow but BIG. The answer is to be fast with action and BIGGER than the attack.

It is an attack... not a ruined pic nic!!!

Go back to your desks... remember THAT!!!!!!!!
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I remember reading a book, I think Delores Cannon, the people of Atlantis were warned and most psychically new the continent was going to sink. some chose to stay others chose to leave, They all new staying was certain death.
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hey fellas...we all die. Some of us just get to know how and when





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