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Nibiru? Planet X? Well.......here is your answer

 
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you won't be able to see it, its orbit takes it a little bit past pluto, rest assured it is there....
* Recent solar activity highest in 8000 years
* Sun's magnetic field has decreased in size by 25%
* 300% increase in galactic dust entering our solar system
* Mercury’s magnetosphere experiencing significant increases
* Venus exhibiting a 2500% increase in its “green glow”
* Mars showing a rapid appearance of clouds and ozone
* Mars observations reveal up to 50% erosion of its ice features within a 12-month period
* Jupiter plasma torus increasing; its moon Io exhibiting the same changes
* A 200% increase in the density of Io's plasma torus
* Jupiter's Disappearance of White Ovals since 1997 - recent increase in storms
* Io's ionosphere is ~1000% higher
* Jupiter’s moon Europa much brighter than scientists expected
* Jupiter’s moon Gannymede is 200% brighter
* Saturn's plasma torus is ~1000% denser
* Aurorae first seen in Saturn's polar regions in recent years
* Uranus was featureless in 1996 - exhibiting huge storms since 1999
* Uranus in 2004 was also markedly brighter than in 1999
* Neptune is 40% brighter in the near-infrared range based on observations from 1996 - 2002
* Pluto observations reveal a 300% increase in atmospheric pressure
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Just look at Venus, western sky just above horizon. Never seen it so bright
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Wouldn't amateur astronamers have seen this by now?


a few, and they have, it's called g1.9
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That's a supernova remnant, it's not a solar system object.
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you know what? I did my duty of spreading information, others will show the facts are true, take care to all


you people are fucking dicks, it took me 5 minutes to google stuff on nasa's website and everything OP said checked out, seriously way to fuck up a good post
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They didn't even check it and they just posted to get on peeps nerves.
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a little more than all capped typing on a lunatic fringe forum site. as a fucking scientist you should know that. is this how you do research? just take for granted shit people vomit up because its in all caps?

i was wrong, you are not a fucking liar, you are a fucking idiot.
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Thank you for this info((easily verifiable - you BS flag flying douchebags)), OP. Ignore the lame naysayers. If its orbit will bring it no closer than Pluto's orbit - what can you suppose its effects here on Earth to be?
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Just look at Venus, western sky just above horizon. Never seen it so bright
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I've seen it that bright many a time, but that aside, you're seriously suggesting that Venus is getting brighter because of "Nibiru" yet we can't actually see the thing in our solar system that's causing Venus to get so much brighter? That doesn't even begin to make any sense.
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ac944057, you cannot see it because at it's CLOSEST point of approach, it is still just beyond pluto
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I can spot pluto so why wouldn't I be able to spot this object? Furthermore, why isn't it having any effects on the positions of the planet, especially small dwarf planets like pluto? Pluto should be way out of place if something large and bright enough to cause OTHER planets to appear too bright is currently passing by the orbital radius of pluto.

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The OP asked the debunker , whats his profession ?
The OP has stated that he is a scientist. What about the debunker? An artist, janitor, a cook , TV repairman ? Come on man answer the OP . We want to know !

Are you ashamed to answer ?
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Wouldn't amateur astronamers have seen this by now?


a few, and they have, it's called g1.9

That's a supernova remnant, it's not a solar system object.
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that is not entirely correct, nasa does believe this but many other countries do not, everybody gives you too much credit astronut, just because you are some dweeb with a backyard telescope, that does not make you a scientist.
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ac944057, you cannot see it because at it's CLOSEST point of approach, it is still just beyond pluto

I can spot pluto so why wouldn't I be able to spot this object? Furthermore, why isn't it having any effects on the positions of the planet, especially small dwarf planets like pluto? Pluto should be way out of place if something large and bright enough to cause OTHER planets to appear too bright is currently passing by the orbital radius of pluto.
 Quoting: Astronut

Pluto has suffered the impact, heating and disruption of a new celestial body too close to its orbit Clearly, the stellar attraction between the two stars, gravitational orbit shrinks from the rest of the planets, and clearly verified the theories of Dr. Michael P. Aubry, Christopher T. Russell, and Margaret G. Kivelson and the model proposed by Dr. John. J. Matese, and Dr. John. B. Murray, and the comments made by Dr. Geoffrey W. Marcy and Ben. R. Oppenheimer. The model has been closed. There you go astronut, fucking dumbass
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I love Astronut
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Wouldn't amateur astronamers have seen this by now?


a few, and they have, it's called g1.9

That's a supernova remnant, it's not a solar system object.


that is not entirely correct, nasa does believe this but many other countries do not, everybody gives you too much credit astronut, just because you are some dweeb with a backyard telescope, that does not make you a scientist.
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Why do some people need to resort to name calling and just debate it like mature humans?

Calling people dweebs because you not agree with them entirely is counterproductive to the debate.

The fact is that there are changes in our solar system, but there is no conclusive evidence to what is causing that, could be a normal cycle with the sun or some other things we don't quite understand yet.

hf
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that is not entirely correct, nasa does believe this but many other countries do not,
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What countries think this is a solar system object? Where is the evidence of its motion against the background stars indicating it to be in the solar system? Where is the evidence of its massive stellar parallax caused by its close proximity?

everybody gives you too much credit astronut,
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Sounds like jealousy.
just because you are some dweeb with a backyard telescope, that does not make you a scientist.
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My training and education makes me a scientist, not my telescope.
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that is not entirely correct, nasa does believe this but many other countries do not,

What countries think this is a solar system object? Where is the evidence of its motion against the background stars indicating it to be in the solar system? Where is the evidence of its massive stellar parallax caused by its close proximity?

everybody gives you too much credit astronut,

Sounds like jealousy.

just because you are some dweeb with a backyard telescope, that does not make you a scientist.

My training and education makes me a scientist, not my telescope.
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But in 2007, X-ray observations made with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory revealed that the object was much larger than the last time it was observed! It had grown in size by 16%. Puzzled by this observation, the Very Large Array repeated its observations of 23 years ago and verified that it had increased in size considerably. Knowing that supernova do not expand this quickly, unless they have just exploded, they explained that G1.9 must be a "very young" supernova -- perhaps not more than 150 years old. But no record of a visible supernova has been found corresponding to that historical period (about the time of the American Civil War).
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that is not entirely correct, nasa does believe this but many other countries do not,

What countries think this is a solar system object? Where is the evidence of its motion against the background stars indicating it to be in the solar system? Where is the evidence of its massive stellar parallax caused by its close proximity?

everybody gives you too much credit astronut,

Sounds like jealousy.

just because you are some dweeb with a backyard telescope, that does not make you a scientist.

My training and education makes me a scientist, not my telescope.
 Quoting: Astronut

Spanish astronomers have tracked this object with great interest because they were anticipating its appearance. Gravitational anomalies have been appearing in the Oort Cloud for some time, suggesting the perturbations were caused by a nearby object with considerable mass. The announcement that G1.9 had increased in size was no mystery to them. It is exactly what they would expect as the object moved closer to Earth.
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want me to keep going astronut? you better tell trinity to pay you more to pump half ass information to keep people busy....
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want me to keep going astronut? you better tell trinity to pay you more to pump half ass information to keep people busy....
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Please do. I want to see him wipe the floor with you.
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Pluto has suffered the impact, heating and disruption of a new celestial body too close to its orbit
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Then why is it still following its predicted orbit and not showing obligatory massive perturbations from such a celestial body passing too close?
Clearly, the stellar attraction between the two stars, gravitational orbit shrinks from the rest of the planets,
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So you think this object is a star then? Holy cow, do you have any clue how even the smallest possible brown dwarf would distrupt the orbit of pluto if it passed close to pluto's orbital radius?
The model has been closed. There you go astronut, fucking dumbass
 Quoting: AC

Your rather nonsensical description didn't answer my question. Insult me all you want, but it won't change the truth.
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I really hope you nibirutards let this shit die in 2012. It's certainly gone on long enough. I know you'll all be resistant to letting go of this belief, damn near religious as it is, but you have to stop believing in fairy tells at some point. A good portion of you will likely die at your cult leaders command and many more will blow their brains out when they realize they've lived recklessly expecting an imaginary planet to destroy the earth but more than likely, you'll just say "2012 was wrong, its 2013"......
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But in 2007, X-ray observations made with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory revealed that the object was much larger than the last time it was observed!
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Yeah, no kidding, that's what young supernova remnants do, they grow. If this were a solar system object the coordinates would be changing, quite dramatically over a multi-year time span. So why aren't they?
But no record of a visible supernova has been found corresponding to that historical period (about the time of the American Civil War).
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Why should there be? Galactic dust prevents us from seeing anything of it in visible light anyway, the visible light explosion would have been similarly obscured.
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want me to keep going astronut? you better tell trinity to pay you more to pump half ass information to keep people busy....
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You can cut and paste with the best of them.
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want me to keep going astronut? you better tell trinity to pay you more to pump half ass information to keep people busy....
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I suppose next your going to tell us that the gravity of Uranus is the reason your head is stuck up your ass?


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you know what? I did my duty of spreading information, others will show the facts are true, take care to all
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Hey OP, Thank you form the information. GLP is a wonderful forum for sharing and reporting information and news. Unfortunately, perhaps, there are people here who will bust your balls just for the sake of busting your balls regardless of the proof you bring forward or your credibility. Those people will always be here and frankly, sometimes, that's perhaps a good thing. Knowing that upfront, this then is not THEIR problem, it's your problem... you're not tough enough to ignore the assholes . Just do your thing and keep reporting regardless.
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Spanish astronomers have tracked this object with great interest because they were anticipating its appearance.
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Yes, the hilarious "Starviewer team" right? And they explain the complete lack of parallax or stellar motion... how?
Gravitational anomalies have been appearing in the Oort Cloud for some time, suggesting the perturbations were caused by a nearby object with considerable mass.
 Quoting: AC

Orbiting at about 25000 AUs according to the current proposal.
The announcement that G1.9 had increased in size was no mystery to them. It is exactly what they would expect as the object moved closer to Earth.
 Quoting: AC

It still doesn't answer my question or prove in any way that it is a solar system object. It's confirmation bias by those who wish to overlook the evidence that is required to prove that an object is within the solar system.
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want me to keep going astronut? you better tell trinity to pay you more to pump half ass information to keep people busy....
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LMFAO! You're a riot! Hey Trinity, where's the check you "owe me" for pumping "half ass information" on your forum? This guy says you're paying me, but my bank account begs to differ.
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you know what? I did my duty of spreading information, others will show the facts are true, take care to all


Hey OP, Thank you form the information. GLP is a wonderful forum for sharing and reporting information and news. Unfortunately, perhaps, there are people here who will bust your balls just for the sake of busting your balls regardless of the proof you bring forward or your credibility. Those people will always be here and frankly, sometimes, that's perhaps a good thing. Knowing that upfront, this then is not THEIR problem, it's your problem... you're not tough enough to ignore the assholes . Just do your thing and keep reporting regardless.
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TRANSLATION: Don’t listen to smart people and keep ignoring the facts OP. I love to pretend too and we shouldn’t let reality get in our way! WOO WOOs RULE!
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Wouldn't amateur astronamers have seen this by now?
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PROFESSIONAL scientists have SEEN it and have PUBLISHED about it.

On Dec. 30, 1983, these scientists’ story was written up by reporter Thomas O’Toole and published in the Washington Post. The story claimed that scientists had identified a body possibly as large as Jupiter. This body would later be named as the 10th planet in our solar system.
Article Title: “Possibly as Large as Jupiter; Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered”
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

In 2005, scientists officially announced to the public their finding that our solar system has a tenth planet and they named it 2003 UB313 (They later changed this name to Xena, Planet X). This discovery was document in the July 30, 2005 issue of Astronomy magazine.
Article Title: “Tenth planet discovered”
[link to www2.astronomy.com]
The discovery of the tenth planet in our solar system was also commemorated with an article that was noted on the cover of the Sunday New York Times' Parade Magazine in January of 2006.

On April 15, 2010, scientists confirmed the presence of a persistent "perturber" body in the vicinity of our neighborhood (the Oort Cloud).

Article Title: “Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud”

John J. Matese and Daniel P. Whitmire
Department of Physics
University of Louisiana at Lafayette, Lafayette, LA, 70504-4210 USA

Submitted to the journal ICARUS on 15 April 2010.
Pages: 41 including 2 cover sheets, 39 text pages, 2 tables, 9 figures

Matese and Whitmire prepublished this account in an electronic astrophysics magazine published by Cornell University called arXiv (an e-print service).

[link to xxx.lanl.gov]

[link to xxx.lanl.gov]

The second link is a PDF version of the entire article and its references.

Abstract: We present an updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion. The results support a conjecture that there exists a companion of mass ~ 1-4 M_Jup orbiting in the innermost region of the outer Oort cloud. Our most restrictive prediction is that the orientation angles of the orbit normal in galactic coordinates are centered on the galactic longitude of the ascending node Omega = 319 degree and the galactic inclination i = 103 degree (or the opposite direction) with an uncertainty in the normal direction subtending ~ 2% of the sky. A Bayesian statistical analysis suggests that the probability of the companion hypothesis is comparable to or greater than the probability of the null hypothesis of a statistical fluke. Such a companion could also have produced the detached Kuiper Belt object Sedna. The putative companion could be easily detected by the recently launched Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE).

The references associated with this publication indicate scientific acceptance of the presence of a massive solar companion of the "wide" binary cool brown dwarf variety (a.k.a. Sun's Nemesis, Planet X, distant large solar system planet).

The presence of this massive body in the outer solar system is based on cometary evidence. Apparently, the galactic tide is perturbed this body's interplanetary magnetic field and this has affected the orbits of 200 comets. Most specifically, the presence of this massive body has caused changes in the osculating orbit of 110 existing long-period comets that exist in the cloud of comets surrounding our solar system (the Oort Cloud).

The references also indicate that scientists are concerned that this distant solar companion has caused mass species extinctions on Earth by causing periodic comet showers to rain down on the Earth from interstellar space.

Evidence that lends credence to the idea that the massive body can produce comets that could impact or have impacted Earth is the fact that it is thought to be the origin of Sedna (2003 VB12) and, thus, could be the origin of more Sedna-like objects in the future. Sedna is described as a trans-Neptunian object that is a likely dwarf planet (or planetoid) that was discovered in 2003.

There IS a tenth planet in our solar system. It is on a very long orbit around our sun. It passes very close to earth's orbit once every 3600 years.

When Planet X (Nibiru, "the winged planet") with its massive size equivalent to between one and FOUR that of Jupiter re-enters our solar system, it causes electromagnetic effects and gravitational effects.

It first affects the geomagnetic activity of our sun (happening now). As it draws closer to Earth, it causes changes in the outer planets first (happening now: Pluto has heated up and its surface has changed colors to a mottled appearance, Neptune is showing "spots" on one side, Uranus has brightened significantly, Saturn has developed a massive rotating hexagonal storm system at one pole, Jupiter has lost its southern "stripe"). Planet X also deflects comets from the Oort cloud toward our solar system.

The Vatican knows this information, the American military knows this information, and the governments of the U.S., Russia, China, Japan, Germany, and the UK know this information.

The governments are not telling the people because there is no way to protect ALL of the people and the knowledge would cause mass panic and chaos.
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that is not entirely correct, nasa does believe this but many other countries do not,

What countries think this is a solar system object? Where is the evidence of its motion against the background stars indicating it to be in the solar system? Where is the evidence of its massive stellar parallax caused by its close proximity?

everybody gives you too much credit astronut,

Sounds like jealousy.

just because you are some dweeb with a backyard telescope, that does not make you a scientist.

My training and education makes me a scientist, not my telescope.

But in 2007, X-ray observations made with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory revealed that the object was much larger than the last time it was observed! It had grown in size by 16%. Puzzled by this observation, the Very Large Array repeated its observations of 23 years ago and verified that it had increased in size considerably. Knowing that supernova do not expand this quickly, unless they have just exploded, they explained that G1.9 must be a "very young" supernova -- perhaps not more than 150 years old. But no record of a visible supernova has been found corresponding to that historical period (about the time of the American Civil War).
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Hey, I have a quick question.
Do you plagiarize all your material or do you own this website that you keep quoting from as your own comments? [link to viewzone2.com]

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Wouldn't amateur astronamers have seen this by now?

PROFESSIONAL scientists have SEEN it and have PUBLISHED about it.

On Dec. 30, 1983, these scientists’ story was written up by reporter Thomas O’Toole and published in the Washington Post. The story claimed that scientists had identified a body possibly as large as Jupiter. This body would later be named as the 10th planet in our solar system.
Article Title: “Possibly as Large as Jupiter; Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered”
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919411


This IRAS claim has been debunked over and over and over again. It turned out that nothing they had detected was inside the solar system.

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