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Islamic Sharia Law to Be Banned in Oklahoma.....first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when decidin

 
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Oh my goodness.

So you think it's constitutional if say, a satanist sacrificed a baby and to be let go by the court systems because it's a part of their religion?

NO!!!


It doesn't work that way.

If one's religion causes one to break a law, that religion cannot and will not save them in court.
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First, PROVE you have any goodness.

And of COURSE there are limits. If you don't LIKE the Constitution, go somewhere else where it doesn't apply.
Like Cuba, or Iraq.
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ruh ro. Obama's not going to like this. Violating the sacred law of his people.
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

The ban is a cornerstone of a "Save our State" amendment to the Oklahoma constitution that was recently approved by the Legislature.

The amendment -- which also would forbid judges from using international laws as a basis for decisions -- will now be put before Oklahoma's voters in November. Approval is expected.

Oklahoma has few Muslims – only 30,000 out of a population of 3.7 million. The prospect of sharia being applied there seems remote. But a chief architect of the measure, Republican State Rep. Rex Duncan, calls the proposed ban a necessary "preemptive strike" against Islamic law coming to the state.

"I see this in the future somewhere in America ," Duncan, who chairs the state House Judiciary Committee, told ABC News. "It's not an imminent threat in Oklahoma yet, but it's a storm on the horizon in other states."


The proposed Oklahoma amendment is aimed, in part, at "cases of first impression," legal disputes in which there is no law or precedent to resolve the matter at hand.

In such cases, judges might look to laws or rulings in other jurisdictions for guidance. The proposed amendment would block judges in Oklahoma courts from drawing on sharia, or the laws of other nations, in such decisions.

The amendment also is a response to what some conservatives see as a pernicious trend -- cases of liberal judges mostly notably Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, using foreign laws to shape their opinions in U.S. cases.

"It should not matter what France might do, what Great Britain might do, or what the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia might do," Duncan said. "Court decisions ought to be based on federal law, or state law."

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: mathetes


How MANY federal or state Judges follow Constitutional law? HARDLY ANY!!@! No one seems to give a damm about Constitutionally protected RIGHTS that have been diced and sliced by Federal and State judges for decades but all the sudden a propoganda piece Ooooooooooooh our law is being decided by Islamic law(as if there is actual proof of that when anything that comes out of the major bogus-news media mouths is usually political opinion with well edited video)

We don't even have control of our borders. 2 wars raging on and on and on. Major events going down in the gulf of mexico. Trillions in National debt. TRILLIONS given to the central bankers since Oct 2008

It's also funny how neo-cons, which advocate unending unprovoked wars of agression and never ending debt spending use a LEFT-WING media outlets when it serves their purposes that the muslims are out to get us.

Next it will be dumb ass americans to start dictating what Religious belief system you can have to live in America.
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SHARIA LAW? Is that similiar to CHURCH LAW where crimes of incest, rape, molestation, murder go unreported to police and handled within the Church?
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:etappr0v:

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+1

chorus

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What about Talmudc Law?

Noahide Law etc?
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

The ban is a cornerstone of a "Save our State" amendment to the Oklahoma constitution that was recently approved by the Legislature.

The amendment -- which also would forbid judges from using international laws as a basis for decisions -- will now be put before Oklahoma's voters in November. Approval is expected.

Oklahoma has few Muslims – only 30,000 out of a population of 3.7 million. The prospect of sharia being applied there seems remote. But a chief architect of the measure, Republican State Rep. Rex Duncan, calls the proposed ban a necessary "preemptive strike" against Islamic law coming to the state.

"I see this in the future somewhere in America ," Duncan, who chairs the state House Judiciary Committee, told ABC News. "It's not an imminent threat in Oklahoma yet, but it's a storm on the horizon in other states."


The proposed Oklahoma amendment is aimed, in part, at "cases of first impression," legal disputes in which there is no law or precedent to resolve the matter at hand.

In such cases, judges might look to laws or rulings in other jurisdictions for guidance. The proposed amendment would block judges in Oklahoma courts from drawing on sharia, or the laws of other nations, in such decisions.

The amendment also is a response to what some conservatives see as a pernicious trend -- cases of liberal judges mostly notably Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, using foreign laws to shape their opinions in U.S. cases.

"It should not matter what France might do, what Great Britain might do, or what the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia might do," Duncan said. "Court decisions ought to be based on federal law, or state law."

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: mathetes


"Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases."

Like they ever did. You are one stupid mother fucker.
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Oh my goodness.

So you think it's constitutional if say, a satanist sacrificed a baby and to be let go by the court systems because it's a part of their religion?

NO!!!


It doesn't work that way.

If one's religion causes one to break a law, that religion cannot and will not save them in court.


First, PROVE you have any goodness.

And of COURSE there are limits. If you don't LIKE the Constitution, go somewhere else where it doesn't apply.
Like Cuba, or Iraq.
 Quoting: Ho_Lee_Kao



I don't have a problem with the constitution.

I don't think you understand that it does not allow the justice system to operate under Sharia law.
Here is where I look back.
Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
A greyhound pass for the boy in the well.

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grandstanding redneck bible thumping moron Oklahoma politcicans protesting things that haven't happened and likely won't.
 Quoting: bobert bob 996665

Oh really?!
Sharia law has already got its slimy teeth in England, Canada and GOD knows where else.
The muzzie group CAIR uses our laws to get them more "rights" like taxpayers paying for foot baths in Michigan so students can cleanse themselves before "praying" five times a day.
Then there are the police dogs in England who have to wear footies before they go sniffing for bombs etc, in muzzie places.
Don't kid yourself. They are indeed trying to make this a muzzie world under islam so their "mahdi" (the 12th iman who is suppose to be in a well in iran) will come out and rule. Hell, obamie has taken over the white house and kisses muzzie ass or a regular basis
GOD BLESS OKLAHOMA!!!!! They are wise!
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And just HOW, Buckwheat, did you MISS the part of the First Amendment that says "OR THE FREE PRACTICE THEREOF"??

Sharia Law IS religious, therefore Muslims are FREE to choose Sharia Law, under the First Amendment!!

THAT should be VERY clear to anyone that has a working brain, but it's obviously NOT clear enough for many GLPers.

sigh
 Quoting: Ho_Lee_Kao




Don't get mad at me for saying this but, Muslims are indeed protected to practice their religion as they see fit.


However, Sharia LAW is not an excuse religion wise to superceed US or state LAW..Sorry. It does not work like that.



Don't get your hackles up. We are all wrong from time to time. My humble self included. Just not this time in my case.

When I think of Sharia LAW trying to gain a foothold here I get a mental image of Slim Pickins making that weird face when Heddy Lamarr is dry humping the statue and fantasizing about snatching land from the Indians in "BLAZING SADDLES".






Cui Bono?
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.

Read it again skippy. The first ammendment says in part that, "congress shall pass no law". That applies to Washington DC, not Oklahoma. States have the power to pass their own laws.


And just HOW, Buckwheat, did you MISS the part of the First Amendment that says "OR THE FREE PRACTICE THEREOF"??

Sharia Law IS religious, therefore Muslims are FREE to choose Sharia Law, under the First Amendment!!

THAT should be VERY clear to anyone that has a working brain, but it's obviously NOT clear enough for many GLPers.

sigh
 Quoting: Ho_Lee_Kao


Oh where to begin. God bless the Founders and their wisdom for putting checks between the Government and Religion. The Law makes a distinction between the practice of religion and the Laws of the Land. I can quote the Bible and say it's my religious duty to slay nonbelievers. So does that mean I can butcher you, sell your kids into slavery and take your property because its ok in my religion? The law is based on the Constitution, which is based on English and European Common Law. Secular Laws. Read your history before you quote the Constitution.
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Yeah!

We don't want no stinking Sharia law rulin us!

We want JEWISH LAW RULIN US!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986272


:mmmmhmm:

actually this whole propaganda worked out quite well so far.

the US will long be gone before the average citizen is even close to realize who the real enemies are.

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ABOUT TIME, THIS BETTER CASCADE THROUGH THE STATES
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SHARIA LAW? Is that similiar to CHURCH LAW where crimes of incest, rape, molestation, murder go unreported to police and handled within the Church?
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Why yes, yes it is..
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thank you Oklahoma, will be interesting to see the coverage here in OKC and all the debaters on this. So thursday which state is going to be next.
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The proposed amendment would block judges in Oklahoma courts from drawing on sharia, or the laws of other nations, in such decisions.
 Quoting: mathetes


Then what do they draw on lol? Ok, other states, but what if it's a unique case?
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Good news. That paves the way to get rid of laws based on christianity and lets us get back to the constitution.
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Good news. That paves the way to get rid of laws based on christianity and lets us get back to the constitution.
 Quoting: sp26 918805


+1
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Good news. That paves the way to get rid of laws based on christianity and lets us get back to the constitution.


+1
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BANG!! rockon
Cui Bono?
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Good news. That paves the way to get rid of laws based on christianity and lets us get back to the constitution.


+1

BANG!! rockon
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Smartest fuckin thing I've read today LOL
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GREAT NEWS.
This law is a violation of seperation of church and state
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god please strike down your overbearing desert cults now.

thor..

it's time to make an appearance..
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Kill them all. It's ok and you won't be judged when you die for it. They are the enemy.
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GREAT NEWS.
This law is a violation of seperation of church and state
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... a phrase not found anywhere in the entire U.S. Constitution.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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"It should not matter what France might do, what Great Britain might do, or what the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia might do," Duncan said. "Court decisions ought to be based on federal law, or state law."


etappr0v
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rockon rockon rockon
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SHARIA LAW? Is that similiar to CHURCH LAW where crimes of incest, rape, molestation, murder go unreported to police and handled within the Church?



Why yes, yes it is..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1004903


Pretty much, which is sick enough with Christians.

But with muslims... ugh... I am against this more specifically because even if they get it to 'police themselves', there's no way in hell muslims will be happy to just keep it like that. They'd (as in the more extreme muslims, and then more moderate ones following them blindly like always) do anything to enforce it onto ANY non-muslim in any situation involving a muslim.
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GREAT NEWS.
This law is a violation of seperation of church and state

... a phrase not found anywhere in the entire U.S. Constitution.
 Quoting: Resister


nope.
BUT religious freedom is
And the only way to have that is seperation of church and state.
Which is why we dont tax churces, or pray in public schools.
We never did pray in public schools, this was a pratice started in the fifties by radical conservatives.
You want to end up like the middle east and other MUSLIM DOMINATED countries?
Living in the 14th century, treating anybody who isnt a male muslim like cattle(including muslim women)?
I will die to stop that,
PUT MY ASS ON THE LINE
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Us Okee's may be 20 years behind the "times", so be it. Aren't you glad?
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Fuck Yeah! i hope that rest of the states and world will follow
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Good news. That paves the way to get rid of laws based on christianity and lets us get back to the constitution.


+1

BANG!! rockon


Smartest fuckin thing I've read today LOL
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Meeeeeee too :)
Here is where I look back.
Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
A greyhound pass for the boy in the well.