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bobert bob 99665 has just been nominated for;
"The dumbest human award"

Good luck.



grandstanding redneck bible thumping moron Oklahoma politcicans protesting things that haven't happened and likely won't.

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grandstanding redneck bible thumping moron Oklahoma politcicans protesting things that haven't happened and likely won't.
 Quoting: bobert bob 996665

Whatever you do..Keep believing that. Tell everyone you can too.


Oklahoma is chock full of inbred morans and haters. There is nothing you or anyone else could ever want from this backwards racist filthy polluted ruined place. It is cursed. Stay away if you know what is good for you. NEVER EVER come here you would be so sorry..ACCURSED I tell you!


Okie assholes will shove that Sharia law right back up your asses! Believe that!


HAIL ORAL ROBERTS! The greatest leader ever!!
Cui Bono?
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grandstanding redneck bible thumping moron Oklahoma politcicans protesting things that haven't happened and likely won't.
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yeah. Just like Britain, right?
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"It should not matter what France might do, what Great Britain might do, or what the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia might do," Duncan said. "Court decisions ought to be based on federal law, or state law."


:etappr0v:
 Quoting: Evil Twin

This post has my 100% approval it clearly gives the state the right to enforce federal law. Foreign interest do not need to come into America and assume they can supplant current customs or laws.
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Just to clarify:

It's not that we have ever been under sharia law here; it's just that we want everyone to know we NEVER will be.
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bump
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Yeah!

We don't want no stinking Sharia law rulin us!

We want JEWISH LAW RULIN US!

I don't know what I'd do without the seventh year of Jubilee and my credit! ALL PRAISE THE TETRAGRAMMATON!

Ass backward hillbillies.
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I'd rather deal with Jewish laws than Muslim laws. If you had more than one brain cell you would too. That whole Constitution thing is nice once you get the hang of it. Fuckwit.
totus via plumbum ut nex
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give them an inch they will take an arm are a head macgun jihad2 jihad rocket
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Oklahoma is looking better and better all the time.

Except for the tornados. sigh

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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.


It's allowed.
 Quoting: Only Me


No, such a law WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Hell, the Supreme Court ALREADY ruled that Satanism is a valid religion, and prison inmates MUST be allowed to practice it!!!
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Oklahoma is looking better and better all the time.

Except for the tornados. sigh

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 Quoting: Aquarius 7


On second thought let's not go to Oklahoma..

Tis' a silly place..


We would actually welcome you Aquarius(no joke)
Cui Bono?
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It would be nice if the Oklahoma legislature worried more about keeping our infrastructure in better shape or did something about the deficit crisis that the state has been locked in for so long, rather than pass dumb laws like this.

Not that I think Sharia Law should in any way exist in the United States, because it shouldn't.

But neither should politicians legislate from the Bible, which is what Oklahoma politicians (Dem and Repub) love to do. They need to also ban state judges (and legislators) from relying on the Bible when interpreting the law.
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bump
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.


What is not allowed but often done, is deviating from
state statute by a judge. Since Sharia is a religion, it
has no standing in the courtroom as a set of laws under the Constitution

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875736


READ the First Amendment again, and DON'T STOP after the first sentence!!
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.


Yes they can fucktard. We abide by laws passed in our legislatures and signed by our governor/president not some bullshit laws from other countries.
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'Yes they can't WHAT, fucktard?

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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.


It's allowed.


No, such a law WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Hell, the Supreme Court ALREADY ruled that Satanism is a valid religion, and prison inmates MUST be allowed to practice it!!!
 Quoting: Ho_Lee_Kao



Oh my goodness.

So you think it's constitutional if say, a satanist sacrificed a baby and to be let go by the court systems because it's a part of their religion?

NO!!!


It doesn't work that way.

If one's religion causes one to break a law, that religion cannot and will not save them in court.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.

Read it again skippy. The first ammendment says in part that, "congress shall pass no law". That applies to Washington DC, not Oklahoma. States have the power to pass their own laws.
 Quoting: Resister


And just HOW, Buckwheat, did you MISS the part of the First Amendment that says "OR THE FREE PRACTICE THEREOF"??

Sharia Law IS religious, therefore Muslims are FREE to choose Sharia Law, under the First Amendment!!

THAT should be VERY clear to anyone that has a working brain, but it's obviously NOT clear enough for many GLPers.

sigh
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grandstanding redneck bible thumping moron Oklahoma politcicans protesting things that haven't happened and likely won't.

Whatever you do..Keep believing that. Tell everyone you can too.


Oklahoma is chock full of inbred morans and haters. There is nothing you or anyone else could ever want from this backwards racist filthy polluted ruined place. It is cursed. Stay away if you know what is good for you. NEVER EVER come here you would be so sorry..ACCURSED I tell you!


Okie assholes will shove that Sharia law right back up your asses! Believe that!


HAIL ORAL ROBERTS! The greatest leader ever!!
 Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant

+1

All you libtard homos stay the hell out of Oklahoma!
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.

Read it again skippy. The first ammendment says in part that, "congress shall pass no law". That applies to Washington DC, not Oklahoma. States have the power to pass their own laws.


And just HOW, Buckwheat, did you MISS the part of the First Amendment that says "OR THE FREE PRACTICE THEREOF"??

Sharia Law IS religious, therefore Muslims are FREE to choose Sharia Law, under the First Amendment!!

THAT should be VERY clear to anyone that has a working brain, but it's obviously NOT clear enough for many GLPers.

sigh
 Quoting: Ho_Lee_Kao


I understand what you mean, but there is a difference between religious practice and THE law.

Using the term Sharia Law does not grant any special changes in the justice systems.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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You have a US flag on your post, but I sure hope you are
not residing in the US. If you are, you should leave while you can.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875736


I sure as hell DO reside in the U.S., and I'm a 4h generation U.S. citizen, one who UNDERSTANDS THE CONSTITUTION, unlike YOU.

So if YOU feel like leaving, I'll HELP YOU PACK!!
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i think i'm having a stroke.

Last Edited by Only Me on 06/16/2010 04:48 PM
Goodbye, halcyon days...

 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.



Sorry, NOT allowed, under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The government can't FORCE you to use Sharia Law, but it ALSO can't deny you the right to choose it.

Read it again skippy. The first ammendment says in part that, "congress shall pass no law". That applies to Washington DC, not Oklahoma. States have the power to pass their own laws.


And just HOW, Buckwheat, did you MISS the part of the First Amendment that says "OR THE FREE PRACTICE THEREOF"??

Sharia Law IS religious, therefore Muslims are FREE to choose Sharia Law, under the First Amendment!!

THAT should be VERY clear to anyone that has a working brain, but it's obviously NOT clear enough for many GLPers.

sigh
 Quoting: Ho_Lee_Kao

Reading comprehension isn't your forte is it? The first ammendment specifically limits the federal government not the states. Here is the whole thing. Try reading it all this time.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

It limits congress dimwit.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Fuck Sharia law.

Fuck muslims.

We all know what their real objective is.

this is good news. I wish all states would follow suit.

I wish we as a country would deport them also!!
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Control of people by any means necessary? Yea thats all religions, including the nutty one you subscribe to.
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"BEWARE OF THEM
and dont be fooled by their hysteric cries of 'anti semitism'
they hope they can derail the discussion about them with that trick"




Derail the discussion about what now?
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Oh my goodness.

So you think it's constitutional if say, a satanist sacrificed a baby and to be let go by the court systems because it's a part of their religion?

NO!!!


It doesn't work that way.

If one's religion causes one to break a law, that religion cannot and will not save them in court.
 Quoting: Only Me


First, PROVE you have any goodness.

And of COURSE there are limits. If you don't LIKE the Constitution, go somewhere else where it doesn't apply.
Like Cuba, or Iraq.
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ruh ro. Obama's not going to like this. Violating the sacred law of his people.
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

The ban is a cornerstone of a "Save our State" amendment to the Oklahoma constitution that was recently approved by the Legislature.

The amendment -- which also would forbid judges from using international laws as a basis for decisions -- will now be put before Oklahoma's voters in November. Approval is expected.

Oklahoma has few Muslims – only 30,000 out of a population of 3.7 million. The prospect of sharia being applied there seems remote. But a chief architect of the measure, Republican State Rep. Rex Duncan, calls the proposed ban a necessary "preemptive strike" against Islamic law coming to the state.

"I see this in the future somewhere in America ," Duncan, who chairs the state House Judiciary Committee, told ABC News. "It's not an imminent threat in Oklahoma yet, but it's a storm on the horizon in other states."


The proposed Oklahoma amendment is aimed, in part, at "cases of first impression," legal disputes in which there is no law or precedent to resolve the matter at hand.

In such cases, judges might look to laws or rulings in other jurisdictions for guidance. The proposed amendment would block judges in Oklahoma courts from drawing on sharia, or the laws of other nations, in such decisions.

The amendment also is a response to what some conservatives see as a pernicious trend -- cases of liberal judges mostly notably Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, using foreign laws to shape their opinions in U.S. cases.

"It should not matter what France might do, what Great Britain might do, or what the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia might do," Duncan said. "Court decisions ought to be based on federal law, or state law."

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: mathetes


How MANY federal or state Judges follow Constitutional law? HARDLY ANY!!@! No one seems to give a damm about Constitutionally protected RIGHTS that have been diced and sliced by Federal and State judges for decades but all the sudden a propoganda piece Ooooooooooooh our law is being decided by Islamic law(as if there is actual proof of that when anything that comes out of the major bogus-news media mouths is usually political opinion with well edited video)

We don't even have control of our borders. 2 wars raging on and on and on. Major events going down in the gulf of mexico. Trillions in National debt. TRILLIONS given to the central bankers since Oct 2008

It's also funny how neo-cons, which advocate unending unprovoked wars of agression and never ending debt spending use a LEFT-WING media outlets when it serves their purposes that the muslims are out to get us.

Next it will be dumb ass americans to start dictating what Religious belief system you can have to live in America.
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SHARIA LAW? Is that similiar to CHURCH LAW where crimes of incest, rape, molestation, murder go unreported to police and handled within the Church?
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:etappr0v:

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+1

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Goofy Thum
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What about Talmudc Law?

Noahide Law etc?
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Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases.

The ban is a cornerstone of a "Save our State" amendment to the Oklahoma constitution that was recently approved by the Legislature.

The amendment -- which also would forbid judges from using international laws as a basis for decisions -- will now be put before Oklahoma's voters in November. Approval is expected.

Oklahoma has few Muslims – only 30,000 out of a population of 3.7 million. The prospect of sharia being applied there seems remote. But a chief architect of the measure, Republican State Rep. Rex Duncan, calls the proposed ban a necessary "preemptive strike" against Islamic law coming to the state.

"I see this in the future somewhere in America ," Duncan, who chairs the state House Judiciary Committee, told ABC News. "It's not an imminent threat in Oklahoma yet, but it's a storm on the horizon in other states."


The proposed Oklahoma amendment is aimed, in part, at "cases of first impression," legal disputes in which there is no law or precedent to resolve the matter at hand.

In such cases, judges might look to laws or rulings in other jurisdictions for guidance. The proposed amendment would block judges in Oklahoma courts from drawing on sharia, or the laws of other nations, in such decisions.

The amendment also is a response to what some conservatives see as a pernicious trend -- cases of liberal judges mostly notably Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, using foreign laws to shape their opinions in U.S. cases.

"It should not matter what France might do, what Great Britain might do, or what the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia might do," Duncan said. "Court decisions ought to be based on federal law, or state law."

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: mathetes


"Oklahoma is poised to become the first state in the nation to ban state judges from relying on Islamic law known as Sharia when deciding cases."

Like they ever did. You are one stupid mother fucker.
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Oh my goodness.

So you think it's constitutional if say, a satanist sacrificed a baby and to be let go by the court systems because it's a part of their religion?

NO!!!


It doesn't work that way.

If one's religion causes one to break a law, that religion cannot and will not save them in court.


First, PROVE you have any goodness.

And of COURSE there are limits. If you don't LIKE the Constitution, go somewhere else where it doesn't apply.
Like Cuba, or Iraq.
 Quoting: Ho_Lee_Kao



I don't have a problem with the constitution.

I don't think you understand that it does not allow the justice system to operate under Sharia law.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.





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