We live in a corrupted universe. YHVH, Jehova, Metatron, The Elohim, are ETs playing us like fools.

I do not partake in any written agreements, and so I could not have possibly singed one.
I it is only a word I honor, and I have not given one...
Get behind me!..

You are only lying to your(higher)selve.

Well done-at least someone is taking RESPOSIBILITYfor

their actions and not moaning and blaming The Elohim or ET's

etc

I am afraid he promotes the veiled idea of 'borg' consciousness, just saying...
however I can provide links to some (only a few) insightful reads too.
[link to www.equilibra.uk.com]
[link to www.equilibra.uk.com]

[link to www.lkwdpl.org]

[link to montalk.net]

want more links?
[link to www.youtube.com]

or of other sort:
explore this one [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

Or maybe you have to google for George Kavassilas to give you a lecture?..

What are you talking about???It is all the ET'S fault didn't you know-i have no say whatsoever over my actions,thoughs,and feelings in this incarnation-every day is a random sequence of events of which i have no control(The Elohim take care of that)

i am not sure what you are talking about...
hence, you have to either stop shilling, do it better, or educate yourself further.

Totally agree the learning opportunities here.

But the learning occurs through separation and duality, by form is inherently corrupted!

The lessons are learned in corruption in this universe!

No victimization, shame the victim mentality was introduced!

Wow.

I humbly accept that you may very well be correct.

Incredibly valuable perspective!

PLEASE keep all of this coming!

Excerpt from: [link to www.equilibra.uk.com]

Part Nine brief description: This chapter takes seven and eight much further and lays down bare just WHAT reincarnation TRULY IS, and the implications this has upon our future spirituality and journey of the soul in the afterlife. We look to prove once and for all that God's Heaven described by reincarnated (lost) souls IS the astral lords reality and is neither divine nor spiritual. We examine this Spiritual Hierarchy - and the Brotherhood - found in the teachings of the Qabala, new age, occult, theosophy, freemasonry etc., and discover that these are NOT spiritual beings at all, but what are they? We also look to prove that pretty much all of our belief systems do originate from the one same reality and that some of them are not diametrically opposed to each other as we have been led to believe. Plus, we have the origins of where all our established religious and spiritual beliefs come from; such as who, or more correctly what, was Christ, the Elohim and more, the origins of how the Crown Chakra through ignorance and ego became the so-called spiritual chakra and our connection with God or higher consciousness/vibrations in practically every teaching in the world that covers the chakras. The real purpose of opening up this chakra will shock many people. The origins of this desire for a New World Order, One World Government and One World Religion and how we humans today are being controlled by our own creation, plus the implications this has upon our spiritual growth and the journey of the soul in the afterlife!

First off, great thread, great discussion.

Yes duality is an illusion, and yes we are within an hierarchical system (I would say we are the rats in the maze).

But...are we not extensions of our higher selves from higher realms? Have we not made a choice to extend ourselves into this realm?

If all the chess pieces were of one color could there really be a game/match?

Are you familiar with the "RA Material" OP? Apparently many types of systems/universes were tried out but the one which got the most results (learning experiences) was the universe with a system of duality.

Yourself and many others are awake so we see the corruption and these bullshit ascended masters and gods and all else. But once we pull ourselves out of here we will see these entities have no real power. Even they will have to one day decide between returning to ONE source from which we all came or devolving into base matter to be used in the next creation.

Really, the legitimate hierarchy that we will end up with, when the dust settles, and all is good, will be based on factors similar to choosing more experienced people to lead, like elders in a clan.

nada

This resonates--at least is not fear based and is simple and

to the point

yea

I hope I am, for it is an infinitely tricky subject to discern it right.

thank you for the links.

in part 7 it is mentioned that the false gods in the astral are actually thought forms created by man's superstitions. thank you for that confirmation which I have taught here on GLP the last few years.


nada

Many brainwashed people say that EartHell is some kind of a "school" for undeveloped souls...I hope you see the stupidity of this statement.

It's like when someone hitting you hard because you don't play the piano well...but there's no piano to practise on; your "teacher" continue to punish you despite there's no instrument or REAL piano education; you can't teach people to play the piano well by pure torture and punishments...or if you do the player will be a mental case.

By the way...did animals sign a "contract" for eternal slaughtering by humans.
In the meat industry the animals get stuff to get horny in order to make more animals that can be slaughtered...

Earth is a burning hell without lesson except learning how to get out of this anunnaki-created filthy hell.

If you put me a cosmic Astral level on which I can create via thought power (like in our dreams in the astral) then I can prove how immensely GOOD I am...I NEVER CREATE WARS AND SUFFERING IN MY DREAMS since I can create funny+good stuff.

Also, Buddha never said that Earth was a great school...he said one should to everything to GET OUT of this dirty oil-soaked hellhole; let the super-rich stay in their burning oil inferno; I'm a nice veggie guy you could easily live with but I'M TIRED OF SAVING EARTH FOR THE ILLUMINATI PLAYBOYS; let them stay in their filthy while we (the good guys) move to a new illuminati/elohim-free planet; it's so DAMN EASY to live peacefully!

I am not actually that confident in full correctness of such an assumption. I actually think that archons have been and continue to be 'shaped' by us (they adapt), but originally THEY are sort of a parasite, some 'fluke' inorganic 'intelligence' residing on (or tapping into) a quantum level within the galactic plane; it hacks its 'tentacles' into all LIFE in order to suck 'LIFE' out, while reshaping the LIFE so that even more can be 'harvested'. So, technically we are not the ORIGINAL cause of it.

Thanks!
Quote from PROMETHEUS RISING
Robert Anton Wilson
.................
"St. Paul, who took the teaching of Jesus and turned it into a
militant movement, suffered an extreme form of brain-change, of
which he tells us that he was temporarily struck blind and lifted
up into the heavens where he beheld things "of which it is not
lawful to speak."
On all else but the experience of Illumination they disagree.
Buddha insisted that his enlightenment was perfectly natural—
"Are you a God?" he was once asked.
"No."
"Are you a saint?"
"No."
"Then what are you?"
...................

"I am awake."

I do not know if I am right, but I want to introduce all interested to the concept of Formless Fullness.
I hope that the quote below will explane.
"A long time ago in China, during the time of Zen Master Lin Chi, there was a monk who was very famous for his Samadhi practicing. This monk, similar to the traditions of digambara, never wore any clothes and was known as the 'naked monk.' He had mastered many kinds of Samadhi, had lots of energy, and didn't need to wear clothes even in winter.

One day Lin Chi decided to test this monk. He called a student of his, gave him a set of beautiful clothes, and asked him to present them to the monk. The student went to the monk and said, 'Ah, you are wonderful. Your practicing is very strong. So my teacher wants to give you these beautiful clothes as a present.' The monk kicked away the clothes and said, 'I don't need these clothes. I have original clothes, from my parents! Your clothes can only be kept a short time, then they will wear out. But my original clothes are never broken. Also, if they become dirty, I just take a shower and they are clean again. I don't need your clothes!'

The student went back to Lin Chi and told him what happened. Lin Chi said, 'You must go to this monk once more and ask him a certain question.' So the student went to the monk and said, 'Great monk! I have one question for you. You said you got your original clothes from your parents.' 'Of course!' said the monk. 'Then I ask you, before you got these original clothes from your parents, what kind of clothes did you have?' Upon hearing this, the naked monk went deep into Samadhi, then into Nirvana and died.

Everyone was very surprised and sad. But when the monk's body was cremated, many Sarira appeared, so everyone thought, 'Ah, this was a great monk.' Sitting on the high rostrum, Lin Chi hit the stand with his Zen stick and said, 'Form is emptiness, emptiness is form.' He hit it again, 'No form, no emptiness.' He hit it a third time, 'Form is form, emptiness is emptiness. Which one is correct?' Nobody understood. Then the Zen Master shouted 'KATZ!' and said, 'The sky is blue, the tree is green.' If you cannot answer in one word the question about your original clothes, then, although you can get Samadhi and Nirvana, you cannot get freedom from life and death."
[link to sped2work.tripod.com]

So, from the above quote I would presume that the single word is 'FORMLESSNESS', or is it?

Great post OP. You have said, most articulately, what I have been feeling for a very long time.

I would like your opinion as to what happens we when we die. Are we coerced into returning? Is it REALLY a choice to return? Can we choose to go elsewhere outside this universe to a more non-chaotic one?

I am making a shameless after letting go my 5-years long AC mode of operandi and finally becoming a registered member here.

Last Edited by VividorDeLaVida on 06/20/2010 07:56 AM

Yes bro

OP, I know this is truth!!!

Arrogance is only the sign of immature spirituality. This must not be taken for the sign of the spiritual grandeur. Humans, stop the game of stupidity, I mean your religions!!!

Please allow me a try.

What happens when we die is the information that is most corrupted and shrouded in the dark. It seems all major religions, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc., are most eager to corrupt this part of their belief system. For example, the early Buddhism has no mention of heaven or hell; it just teaches spirituality of inner reflection. Although it teaches on reincarnation, the early Buddhism doesn't say you will go to hell if you behave wrong. But that element of heaven and hell was inserted in the later Buddhism, and as the organized belief system, this odd element is by far the most influential part of the Buddhist belief system on the psyche of the mass adherents. Buddhism is very much corrupted. No exception. Everything is corrupt.

So far, it is fairly clear that we will reincarnate when we die and we need physical vehicle for reincarnation. As far as I discern from various sources, the process of reincarnation will follow according to the character of the soul and the vibration of it. Over a certain vibration, one can get out of the reincarnation loop of this planet, so I heard.

oh boy Ive written about the original cause of this on one of my threads yesterday..

oh I found it

The Creation consumes Life and releases Anti-Life, THIS WICKED SHIT HAS BEEN ATTACKING US!
Thread: The Creation consumes Life and releases Anti-Life, THIS WICKED SHIT HAS BEEN ATTACKING US!


There are a couple of links referenced in that thread, which you only need to read the first message, to follow along. If you really to consider more info re: where that stuff came from that infected life, please read those few messages.

nada

Thank you for illuminating some of my own thoughts.
Our earth experience is only one piece of our entire experience and we are in some ways victims of our own plan for redemption--a plan that would humble us as we grew in our evolutionary bodies (our souls). The point was to surrender to the source--the one true God in the end. Why did we need redemption? Because we sought power and became greedy long before the earth experience. The gods or the hierarchy you mention are the archons and archetects of the original plan and yes we were lied to too much. The Absolute (God) did not create our universe, the archons did.
The void you mention or what the Kabbalah considers the nothing is not duality. It is a piece of God's consciousness that Native American's call the Great Mystery.

It is frustrating to live in duality for eons isn't it? Image love with out duality.

MAYBE NOTHNG IS THE ANSWER

hearty welcome to being registered on GLP!

in the message before yours:




if u want to read one take on what happens when we die check out #7 from that other post

[link to www.equilibra.uk.com]

In my theology and cosmogeny, I have a unique belief that I learned from the Spirit. That God has prepared a personal room in the second heaven (which He has taken back from those archons) and each person goes to this room automatically at death, no matter what they believed - because God has the Right to take care of His own (because they exist).

This, as far as I know, has not been taught.

it was told me by the spirit, and I believe it for myself, and for everyone else.

best wishes,
nada