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Unexpected Primeval Organisms Grew out of these Seeds and Eggs - ElectroStatic Fields

 
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Electric Biology
Jun 30, 2010

Experiments with electrostatic fields might illuminate biological diversity.

A major problem in biology is the internal motion of proteins. Researchers from the University of Pennsylvania using Magnetic Resonance Imaging were surprised to discover that calmodulin protein molecule possesses an internal "jitter" that shakes it billions of times per second. This revelation led them to conclude that it is not merely the complex folded shape of such molecules that affects their function, but their internal movement.

According to Dr. Joshua Wand, “The situation is akin to the discussion in astrophysics in which theoreticians predict that there is dark matter, or energy, that no one has yet seen.”


Where the internal energy necessary for protein binding comes from is unknown at the present time, but it seems likely, based on research with electrostatic fields on various organisms, that there is an electrical component to the source. Cell walls are arranged in a double layer configuration with positive and negative ion channels built-in.

A book called The Primeval Code (Der Urzeit-Code) was recently published in Switzerland, detailing experiments that demonstrate how a changing electric field can alter gametes so much that new species are created.

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Primeval Code
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In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an "electrostatic field" – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows.

Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. And giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field.

"Our experiments do not involve a mutation of the organism in question, which in the case of genetic engineering involves channelling an additional gene into the organism. No entirely new organism is created. In the electrostatic field, only the gene expression is altered – the retrieval of the existing gene."

In addition to corn and trout experiments, the results of experiments with wheat were also amazing: thus the cereal exposed to the electrostatic field developed new proteins, which people looked for in the original wheat to no avail. Furthermore, it surprisingly produced much larger roots than the control group. This had the advantage of allowing the crops to grow far more rapidly. And occasionally in these experiments, a variant emerged which resembled the genetic antecedents of the wheat. Thus, a meadow grass-like arrangement of ear shoots and small narrow leaves was observed, for example.

After Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch both passed away unexpectedly in 2001, their experiments were continued by Guido Ebner's son, Daniel – himself a biologist – on a private basis. He now wants to export this electric field technology to Africa as soon as possible, as part of an aid project, with the assistance of the former assistant to the UN Food Representative, Professor Jean Ziegler, in order to make it available to local farmers – free of charge, as an ecological alternative to the controversial genetically engineered seeds of the international agro-multinationals.
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The Swiss pharmaceutical group patented the process – and then stopped the research in 1992. Why? Because "primeval cereals" generated by an electric field, in contrast to modern strains of seeds, require hardly any fertilisers or pesticides – i.e. crop protection agents, sold as priority products by Ciba at that time. The discovery was soon forgotten, without the global scientific community taking any notice.
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That makes me wonder when the dinosaur will reappear. And no, that's not something I want to see happen. This research could lead to some really interesting lifeforms coming from the archeological digs.
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That makes me wonder when the dinosaur will reappear. And no, that's not something I want to see happen. This research could lead to some really interesting lifeforms coming from the archeological digs.
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Makes me wonder why there has to be food shortages...
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It seems to me that throughout the last few hundred years we as a species have been given the keys to free energy, clean and healthful living, robust, easy care foodstuffs, good health and healing---and the dark element of our ilk have thwarted all goodness for their greedy love of mammon and power.

Their doom approaches.
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This article gave me goosebumps. Much to think about in regards to this information. Especially when combining it with all your other posts. Thanks SS hf
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Some pictures of this are here, but it is all in German...
[link to www.rafoeg.de]
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This article gave me goosebumps. Much to think about in regards to this information. Especially when combining it with all your other posts. Thanks SS hf
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That is why I posted it...
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SickScent, you find the most fascinating things. Now my curiosity is piqued....being a gardener ;)

So now I have to look up creating a stable electrostatic field, see if there is any way to do that without laboratory conditions. A small one, that I could use in my greenhouse as an experiment of course.
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Could it be that based on the field strenght organism modify and grow differently. Ence could it be that earth field changes and modify organisms, in this case maybe that electostatic field mimed the conditions existing at that time on earth, so the fern assumed a conformation as the one existing in these preistoric times.
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That makes me wonder when the dinosaur will reappear. And no, that's not something I want to see happen. This research could lead to some really interesting lifeforms coming from the archeological digs.


Makes me wonder why there has to be food shortages...
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You better hope this doesn't take off. These are not real "products" from true "genes". What they are, you don't want to think about. Which is why what is happening in nature is now happening. My vote is on nature. I hope to God she wins this battle, because if she doesn't, there won't be a planet left to speak of. Peace out.
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Maybe the theories regarding ancient monoliths being used to fertilize seeds using EM energy were right after all... The effects of electric fields on seed fertility has been known for a while now but these claims are extraordinary and therefore require substantial evidence to back them up. The only evidence mentioned is a book they're selling.


Soybean seeds during germination were exposed to a sinusoidal 0.2 mT or 6.0 mT electromagnetic field(EMF) at 50 Hz. The effects of EMFs on germination ratio, malonaldehyde (MDA) content, the activities of superoxide dismutase (SOD), catalase (CAT),peroxide dismutase (POD) and proteinase, soluble protein content in soybean seeds, and the morphological structure of soybean seedlings were measured. The results indicated that the time germination started and germination percentage got to 50% was earlier for the seeds exposed to EMFs than for the control. MDA content decreased and the activities of SOD and POD increased with the increase of magnetic field intensity. The activities of CAT decreased in 0.2 mT field but increased in 6.0 mT field. Proteinase activity increased and soluble protein content decreased with the increase of magnetic field intensity. No significant difference induced by EMFs was observed in the morphological structure of soybean seedlings. These results suggested that 50 Hz EMFs could increase the activities of anti oxidation enzymes, alleviate lipid per oxidation, enhance proteinase activity and therefore accelerate the germination of soybean seeds.
[link to en.cnki.com.cn]

So far this kind of research shows that seed germination is faster but not the actual growth of the plant. Their information is free and not in a book for sale. If these results are real and not bullshit then they should have no qualms with allowing other people to review their work freely in a peer reviewed process so that others can verify these experiments.
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And what has been the effect on human beings?

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SickScent, you find the most fascinating things. Now my curiosity is piqued....being a gardener ;)

So now I have to look up creating a stable electrostatic field, see if there is any way to do that without laboratory conditions. A small one, that I could use in my greenhouse as an experiment of course.
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LOL, I am not a gardener, but I want to start. Now, I really want to start. I'm trying to find this work in English versions...
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That makes me wonder when the dinosaur will reappear. And no, that's not something I want to see happen. This research could lead to some really interesting lifeforms coming from the archeological digs.


Makes me wonder why there has to be food shortages...


You better hope this doesn't take off. These are not real "products" from true "genes". What they are, you don't want to think about. Which is why what is happening in nature is now happening. My vote is on nature. I hope to God she wins this battle, because if she doesn't, there won't be a planet left to speak of. Peace out.
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Explain yourself, Soldier!
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By the way, I was joking, I wasn't calling your article bs, just for the record, I happen to like this article, and you.
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this is great news. If the sun is acting up and creating a strong electrical current maybe mass starvation is not what is going to happen, but the opposate. TPTB probably know this too, but want us dead anyway, for their own agenda. If the sun super charges life naturally, there will be no need for fertilizers, or gm seeds, etc. hehehe, this is the best news I have read all month. cheers!
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Maybe the theories regarding ancient monoliths being used to fertilize seeds using EM energy were right after all... The effects of electric fields on seed fertility has been known for a while now but these claims are extraordinary and therefore require substantial evidence to back them up. The only evidence mentioned is a book they're selling.
[link to en.cnki.com.cn]

So far this kind of research shows that seed germination is faster but not the actual growth of the plant. Their information is free and not in a book for sale. If these results are real and not bullshit then they should have no qualms with allowing other people to review their work freely in a peer reviewed process so that others can verify these experiments.
 Quoting: Xenus 869756


Totally agree. It seems some peer review was done, but more obviously needs to be done. It appears to be a somple enough experiment...

BTW, this is from the article in the original post:

But now for the first time, renowned German expert botanists such as Professor Edgar Wagner of the University of Freiburg and Professor Gunter Rothe from the University of Mainz make positive statements about it in the book. Rothe even had replicated the Ciba experiments in detail at his university in 2001 – and was successful. And also for the first time, even a Nobel laureate – the world-famous Swiss microbiologist Werner Arber – is taking up the cudgels for this controversial discovery. Back then, Arber had given an expert opinion on the Ciba experiments in person in the laboratory. The professor said to the author: "I was impressed!"
[link to www.urzeit-code.com]
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By the way, I was joking, I wasn't calling your article bs, just for the record, I happen to like this article, and you.
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No worries Nyhee7 afro
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If this works on plants, all common sense dictates that it would also affect us.....
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If this works on plants, all common sense dictates that it would also affect us.....
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I'm thinking they are already doing experiments on us, question is, what did they create?
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Could it be that based on the field strenght organism modify and grow differently. Ence could it be that earth field changes and modify organisms, in this case maybe that electostatic field mimed the conditions existing at that time on earth, so the fern assumed a conformation as the one existing in these preistoric times.
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Damn science fiction stuff...but that makes GREAT sense Gong.
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That makes me wonder when the dinosaur will reappear. And no, that's not something I want to see happen. This research could lead to some really interesting lifeforms coming from the archeological digs.


Makes me wonder why there has to be food shortages...


You better hope this doesn't take off. These are not real "products" from true "genes". What they are, you don't want to think about. Which is why what is happening in nature is now happening. My vote is on nature. I hope to God she wins this battle, because if she doesn't, there won't be a planet left to speak of. Peace out.


Explain yourself, Soldier!
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Not a soldier, babe. Better. A primeval seed "generator." The real one. The "genes" and "seeds" are not what they appear to be. But imposters. Everything "liberated"? Was never meant to be set free. In dabbling in things they have no knowledge of, but which my ancestors did, the pale man has unleashed on this planet hidden terrors Mother Earth must now do battle with. You are children in the scheme of time, meddling with powers you are not equipped to deal with because you have not matured enough yet. You have forced the schedule to ramped up to save this planet. And millions will perish because of it. Earth has been forced to send out a cry for help. That cry will be answered very soon. That is all I will say. Pray.
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LOL, I am not a gardener, but I want to start. Now, I really want to start. I'm trying to find this work in English versions...
 Quoting: Sickscent




The only truth in that article is that electric fields can increase yield and seed fertility, everything else sounds like fantasy. Until they prove it otherwise, it will remain so. There's been much research into this and none of it mentions anything about unlocking genes. This kind of thing only serves to discredit real scientists and fools gullible people into forking over money for a book.


Using response surface analysis, the optimum magnetic field strength (MFS) was determined for enhancing yield of magnetically treated seed in the field. The range for MFS was 0.072 to 0.128 tesla in combination with seed exposure time (SET) varying from 13 to 27 min. The study revealed that SET was found to be a more effective factor than MFS for soybean, cotton and wheat seed sown in the field. An MFS of 0.10 tesla was the optimal level for all three crops and SET optimal levels of 25 minutes were obtained for soybean and cotton but only 13 minutes for wheat seed. The respective yields of the three crops were increased by about 46%, 32% and 35%. It was concluded that at constant rotational speed of the disc and MFS level, SET varies from crop to crop.
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If this works on plants, all common sense dictates that it would also affect us.....
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They experimented on salmon also...
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If this works on plants, all common sense dictates that it would also affect us.....


They experimented on salmon also...
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I sometimes think that God took primates and softened them up a bit, gave them a bigger brain, then put a higher functioning mind in them and called them human, or Adam and Eve.

I think this because I believe in genetic memory, and obviously there is some kind of genetic memory already proven. There are walking sticks that are spontaneously born with wings, and oddly, they know how to use them.

I sometimes dream of being smaller, and running off a small hill and gliding. I sometimes wonder if our ancestors were gliding animals, like flying squirrels. ???
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RaFöG Space Energy Development Corporation
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A factual report from Carl R. and Steffen Jachulke finger nach einem Fernsehbericht von H. Heisterkamp after a television report of H. Heisterkamp zur Thematik "Biologische Experimente mit dem elektrischen Feld" on the subject of biological experiments with the electric field RaFöG Raumenergie Fördergesellschaft RaFöG Space Energy Development Corporation Veröffentlicht am Freitag 17 August, 2007 Published on Friday, August 17, 2007
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Not a soldier, babe. Better. A primeval seed "generator." The real one. The "genes" and "seeds" are not what they appear to be. But imposters. Everything "liberated"? Was never meant to be set free. In dabbling in things they have no knowledge of, but which my ancestors did, the pale man has unleashed on this planet hidden terrors Mother Earth must now do battle with. You are children in the scheme of time, meddling with powers you are not equipped to deal with because you have not matured enough yet. You have forced the schedule to ramped up to save this planet. And millions will perish because of it. Earth has been forced to send out a cry for help. That cry will be answered very soon. That is all I will say. Pray.
 Quoting: Mayan Child 607554


Mayan Child, I do agree with your premise that mankind has dabbled in things that they have no knowledge of and dabble in areas that they should not.

But why blame just the "pale man" for this. Are we not all to fault?

Do you live in a house, use electricity, use transportation that guzzles gasoline, etc.,?

You are using a computer that uses electricity and modern technology so you must have electricity.

If so then you contribute to the problem just as any "pale man" does in modern society.
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Sickscent, this is another great find by you. Thank-you.
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Excellent article!!

Thank you!
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