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GAS EXPANSION!!!!!!!!

 
Dread Pirate Roberts

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06/18/2010 12:18 PM
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If their is a gas bubble under the well head in the gulf that is 20 miles by 5 miles and tens of feet tall. Depending on the pressue of the toxic gas down there will dictate how may times that the gas bubble will expand when it reaches the surface of the gulf. So this gas could possibly expand 500 to 1000 times it's size. So if you do the simple math that's 20000 miles by 5000 miles of gas... That's right people the expansion rate on this gas is so serious it's biblical. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE will be gassed and drowned. Because of that kind of expansion the water displacement will also be biblical. I work with these toxic compressed gas for a living. Stuff that is so deadly that one whiff and your pushing daisy. Parts of our plant is 99% H2S gas very deadly. This stuff kill so fast you will be at th pearly gates before you hit the ground. So I don't know why the people are not being better prepared and informed of this potential disater. This is a serious emergency and a ticking time bomb I also have to say that the EPA samples that where taken on the gulf coast. If those results were detected in our plant we would be evacuating and dawning SCBA to contain or isolate the leak. So to have the general public breathing the toxic air why does BP say it's safe and my companys policies say I need a saftey equiptment???? This is why Richard Hogland is so concerned as well as all the people in the area. Oh yeah if a tunami wave where to happen how many drilling and production platfoarms would sink and create another one of these disasters???? This disater gets better everyday. GOD HELP US!!!!!!!
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Let's do some math. If 40000 barrels of gas has been blowing out of the lodge poll blow out. At the surface the gas would expand to 5.4 million barrels. So depending on the pressure of that well which could be anywhere from 20000 to 100000 psi this will dictate the expansion rate when the gas reaches the surface of the gulf (atmospheric pressure).


Gas is not measured in barrels. 1doh1
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cubic feet, stop with the 100K PSI shit.
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06/18/2010 12:19 PM
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Thank you OP Farmer for sharing this information
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ok lets do a methane test, have a smoke while ur cleaning up oil.. then flick it into the ocean where the methane is coming up, do it at night though and raise your ass in the air for the biggest blue angel you have ever seen
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06/18/2010 12:20 PM
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we need to start driving more cars lol
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i've been sceptic about thisoilspill, for the huge amount of disinfo.

but there is no reason anymore for LOL, not at all!!
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06/18/2010 12:21 PM
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OK my fellow GLP'ers, use this as a cheatsheet to survive.

1.Bend over, while simultanously dropping your pants. (be sure to be happy about it)
2. Spread ass cheeks and chant "Big Oil" 3 times.
3. When you feel the horsecock ram into you, greet Tony Hayward politely. (He won't say much of substance, he's lawyer coached)
4. When you feel a pencil penetrate, be sure to respectfully greet the president. (Allahu Akbar will suffice)
5. Bleed from asshole.
6??????
7.Profit!?!

So fucked.
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06/18/2010 12:22 PM
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I hate to say it but this disaster is already at biblical proportions.



This is a pivot point for humanity.
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06/18/2010 12:23 PM
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ok, but this is based on it releasing a lot of the gas or all of the gas at once, right?

couldn't it just continuing spewing in less dangerous amounts?

what is left in there gas-wise once the deposit empties? just traces of gas or more?

anyone know?
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06/18/2010 12:28 PM
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This is real people. Its a simple pysical change of state..


You are reaching the conclusion of a catastrophe based on an unproven hypothesis.

Thread=fail;
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Welcome noob!
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06/18/2010 12:30 PM
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I hate to say it but this disaster is already at biblical proportions.



This is a pivot point for humanity.
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YES- this is. Period.
Things changed when I least expected it....
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06/18/2010 12:33 PM
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OK my fellow GLP'ers, use this as a cheatsheet to survive.

1.Bend over, while simultanously dropping your pants. (be sure to be happy about it)
2. Spread ass cheeks and chant "Big Oil" 3 times.
3. When you feel the horsecock ram into you, greet Tony Hayward politely. (He won't say much of substance, he's lawyer coached)
4. When you feel a pencil penetrate, be sure to respectfully greet the president. (Allahu Akbar will suffice)
5. Bleed from asshole.
6??????
7.Profit!?!

So fucked.
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Your crude, filthy, vulgarity is just as much wrong with our country as everything else.

May God have mercy on a wicked people.
Narz

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06/18/2010 12:34 PM
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why is this pinned, you guys find a doom scenerio with everything another do
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06/18/2010 12:35 PM
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[youtube]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value=" [link to www.youtube.com] name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" [link to www.youtube.com] type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
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06/18/2010 12:36 PM
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This is real people. Its a simple pysical change of state..


You are reaching the conclusion of a catastrophe based on an unproven hypothesis.

Thread=fail;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1006087

Concur
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I notice more gas than oil coming out today, why ?


Because it's time to die
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wtf

chuckle
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06/18/2010 12:37 PM
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Whoops, Sorry trying to embed a video of Richard Hoagland who was on Coast Sunday night talking about this bubble. I'll get the link.
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06/18/2010 12:38 PM
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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06/18/2010 12:39 PM
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why is this pinned, you guys find a doom scenerio with everything another do
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Yeah, cause it's just a little oil spill. No big deal. another do


Hello. The seafloor is not stable. Ask SHR. He said it is like swiss f*cking cheese. The seafloor around the blowout was CRACKING in FEBRUARY. BP knew it then. When it gives? What then? A whole lot of oil, gas, who knows what comes rushing out.
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Here's the link if someone can embed it Very informative.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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06/18/2010 12:41 PM
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Woe to those whom trust in men for their security. It is their arrogance that precedes them. They are but ashes from the dust, and to the dust they will return. Trust not with your own understanding, yet be led by the Spirit of Love. That is all.

On a human note, please please get out of there people. You may very well be the few whom escape with their life. Material things will not look so important in the near future.
Things change when you least expect it.
Farmer (OP)
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06/18/2010 12:42 PM
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Here is a little more doom for everyone. What if that so called gas bubble under the well head is mainly H2S? This gas will expand and millions of people will drop when it reaches landfall. The people are beening distracted by methane. Methane is far less deadly at lower concentrations than H2S This gas kills quick and silent at low concentraions. BP doesn't want anyone flying over their shit out their cause they don't want you to see their workers wearing SCBA. All the clean up crews on the shores out their should have some sort of back up breathing air on them. or fully dawning a scba. One bad breth of air and your dead. Like I said earlier my company policies fobids me to breath the quality of air that the EPA has been getting from their test results.
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yes P1V1/T1=P2V2/T2, just high school physics, but continue with the doomathon, very interesting boring
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More info please. are you saying that maybe the gas wont spread to land or explode? If so can you scientifically back this for us ?
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why is this pinned, you guys find a doom scenerio with everything another do



Yeah, cause it's just a little oil spill. No big deal. another do


Hello. The seafloor is not stable. Ask SHR. He said it is like swiss f*cking cheese. The seafloor around the blowout was CRACKING in FEBRUARY. BP knew it then. When it gives? What then? A whole lot of oil, gas, who knows what comes rushing out.
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please continue with you extensive knowledge, give me a reason to think the heavy mud and cement will not kill it?
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ok, but this is based on it releasing a lot of the gas or all of the gas at once, right?

couldn't it just continuing spewing in less dangerous amounts?

what is left in there gas-wise once the deposit empties? just traces of gas or more?

anyone know?
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In your scenario, the big problem will be the dead zones created in the water. No oxygen!

Regardless of whether this thing explodes or just spews out gas, it's really fucked.

The assholes who are saying that this is a rosy situation, not to be worried about, are either BP shills, or fucking idiots who watch whores pretend to be newscasters......
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Here's the link if someone can embed it Very informative.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Narz

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yes P1V1/T1=P2V2/T2, just high school physics, but continue with the doomathon, very interesting boring

More info please. are you saying that maybe the gas wont spread to land or explode? If so can you scientifically back this for us ?
 Quoting: COrizon

There is a lower explosive limit, I forget but aroung 5%, the gas will just disperse to much, unless it all came out at once.
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This is not a hypothisis it's fact . In our processes we have what one would call pressure vessels. In some of these vessels we can compress gases 100 times atmospheric pressure. This means the more gas we put in a vessel the higher the pressure. This means we can put a big volume of gas in a small area. To make it more simple think of a propane tank. That gas in the tank is pressurized and compressed in the tank to contain certain volume of gas. If pressurized enough the propane will turn into a liquid in the thank. But as soon as you open the valve that gas will flash from a liquid to a gas and vaporize when it hit atmospheric pressure. So what seems to be under 5 Gallons of liquid in that tank when released to atmosphere will expand to 500 gallons of gas. 1 drop of water turned into superheated steam will expand 1700 times it's original volume. So now that single drop of water will now occupie a space 1700 times it's original size. This is how steam boilers produce the energy to turn a steam turbine by expanding high pressure steam across the turbine blades so it can turn a generator. So if that gas bubble is at a certain pessure down their when relesed to the surface will expand a certain amount. So the higher the pressure the more expansion will take place when released to atomspheric pressure. That why I say that bubble has the potential to expanding 500 times it original volume when it reach the surface of the gulf. So if a person does the simple math and that gas bubble is 20 miles by 5 miles in the ground depending on it pressure. If it expands 500 times Its original size when it reaches the surface that gas is now 10000 miles by 100 miles because that gas volume will occupie more space at atmospheric pressure. I hope I'm beening clear I am just tring to explain how serious this could be if the gas reieases at once. It wiil depend on how pressurized the gas is in the formation that will dictate how much that gas will truely expand.
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Chicken Little: THE SKY IS FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
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Hoagland has been hitching his scar to whatever possible for twenty years or more. The only common denominator over those twenty years has been his ability to avoid having to find a real job. You gotta have something to say to get on the radio, right?
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why is this pinned, you guys find a doom scenerio with everything another do



Yeah, cause it's just a little oil spill. No big deal. another do


Hello. The seafloor is not stable. Ask SHR. He said it is like swiss f*cking cheese. The seafloor around the blowout was CRACKING in FEBRUARY. BP knew it then. When it gives? What then? A whole lot of oil, gas, who knows what comes rushing out.

please continue with you extensive knowledge, give me a reason to think the heavy mud and cement will not kill it?
 Quoting: Narz


What are you talking about? Killing the well with mud/cement? Please clarify. Actually, do some research for yourself as all this info is all over this board. "Give me a reason" is either laziness or a shill. If you think they can seal this off w/some mud/cement then you haven't been paying attention the last 60 days to everything that has come out regarding this situation.

Or, perhaps you're just trying to derail the thread from the topic at hand? The methane? Interesting. I think this will be last response to you out of respect for the OP.
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