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Obama internet 'kill switch' proposed

 
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Local lobby groups and academics have rounded on the plan, saying that, rather than combat terrorists, it would actually do them "the biggest favour ever" by terrorising the rest of the world, which is now heavily reliant on cyberspace.

[link to www.smh.com.au]

I don't get these morons, Since it is considered "a national asset" they need to shut it down before an "internet 9/11"

....wouldn't that mean it is not an asset if you can shut it down so easily for reason that have not happened yet?

I'm interested in hearing others thoughts on the matter.
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You want others' thoughts on the matter?

Here's my thought:

The Internet is designed to withstand a nuclear attack, or even several attacks. The entire East Coast could go down and the majority of websites would still be able to rely on their backup servers. The only ones affected would be the ones whose internet is down anyway. The way packet switching works is that if one system goes down (say a major DNS server farm gets wiped out), packets will still take the "path of least resistance," even if that path follows another route to the host. Here's a nice gif image of what I'm referring to: [link to www.teach-ict.com]

This means a "kill switch" is nothing more than an overreaching of government into the only free media left.

I'm an IT Major with a minor in Computer Crime and a focus on Database Administration and Security.
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Oh, and I want to be clear on one thing: A "kill switch" is not only not necessary, but it's almost impossible.

The only "kill switch" needed is the power button on each server.
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The conspiracy factor: There are actually a few different "internets". Control and monitoring over the other lesser known internets are more desirable... but how to get everyone to use it instead? hmmmm...
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The conspiracy factor: There are actually a few different "internets". Control and monitoring over the other lesser known internets are more desirable... but how to get everyone to use it instead? hmmmm...
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They'd have to start over, which means they'd need something to happen that would shut down everything.
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Not only that, but even if the US got control over the US nameservers, there are many root nameservers outside of the country! Google even has some!
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The only ways this is logically possible:

1. Turn off the power grid
2. Build in a "kill switch" into every router and gateway in use

Even if they do #2, this would only mean that hackers have a "holy grail" to find.
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I am aware and have interacted with the other levels of the internet, I assume what these people mean is the shutting down of the public internet.

I also agree with others that this is just fear mongering from the good ol gov
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... when the internet is "down" ... then the sheep will say "whoah! What happened?" ...
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... by then Barry will be EMPEROR OF THE WORLD! ...
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Local lobby groups and academics have rounded on the plan, saying that, rather than combat terrorists, it would actually do them "the biggest favour ever" by terrorising the rest of the world, which is now heavily reliant on cyberspace.

[link to www.smh.com.au]

I don't get these morons, Since it is considered "a national asset" they need to shut it down before an "internet 9/11"

....wouldn't that mean it is not an asset if you can shut it down so easily for reason that have not happened yet?

I'm interested in hearing others thoughts on the matter.
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[link to www.thetruthseeker.co.uk]

Barack Obama's regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein wants all "conspiracy theories" banned.

Not only is that a direct attack on human rights, journalists, news companies and freedom in all areas of life but it is truly a idiotic statement to make.

In a 2008 Harvard Law paper called "Conspiracy theories" Cass Sunstein asks what can be done about conspiracy theories.

The paper contained to specific questions

Government might ban conspiracy theorizing.

This means that you are not allowed to ask any questions. You must believe everything that is represented to you how it is without asking any questions you must believe the government, if you do ask questions you will be jailed? This is bizarre.
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The conspiracy factor: There are actually a few different "internets". Control and monitoring over the other lesser known internets are more desirable... but how to get everyone to use it instead? hmmmm...


They'd have to start over, which means they'd need something to happen that would shut down everything.
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power grid failure via sun?
For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls?
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40 bills? wtf


[link to www.federalnewsradio.com]

The bill now becomes one of more than 40 introduced during the 111th Congress. Some of the more prominent bills include the Cybersecurity Act of 2010 from Sens. John Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), the International Cyberspace and Cybersecurity Coordination Act of 2010 from Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), the Cybersecurity Enhancement Act of 2010 from Rep. Daniel Lipinski (D-Ill.) and several amendments to the House version of the Defense Authorization bill from Reps. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.), Diane Watson (D-Calif.) and Yvette Clarke (D-N.Y.).
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U.S. seeks allies in battle against cyber warfare

Read more: [link to www.ottawacitizen.com]

"A nuclear missile comes with a return address," William Lynn told an audience of about 100 at the Château Laurier. With cyber warfare, on the other hand, "international co-operation is imperative."

Read more: [link to www.ottawacitizen.com]
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Cybersecurity legislation gaining momentum in Senate


June 16, 2010 - 4:46pm

[link to www.federalnewsradio.com]

"As Federal News Radio has reported, there are as many as 40 different cybersecurity bills now being considered on both sides of Capitol Hill.


"But the powerful chairman of a big Senate committee thinks his cybersecurity bill will be the one to cross the finish line to the President's desk. That chairman held the first hearing for his bill yesterday in the United States Senate.

"Senate Bill S. 3480, the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010, received its first hearing in the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on Tuesday.

"The panel's ranking member, Sen. Susan Collins (R.-Maine), and a principal co-author of the measure, recounted many now-familiar anecdotes of cyber-attacks on government and private networks. Another of Collins' co-authors for this bill, Delaware Senator Tom Carper (D.), believes that the unusually large number of pending cybersecurity measures on Capitol Hill means Congress may finally be getting serious about the subject."

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