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Barack Obama's regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein wants all "conspiracy theories" banned.

Not only is that a direct attack on human rights, journalists, news companies and freedom in all areas of life but it is truly a idiotic statement to make.
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No, THIS IS.... ZioNWO! *kicks you in the pit*

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They are biting off more than they can chew. You know what happens...you choke.
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I hope you're right 'cuz this sucks. With all these bills they're rushing thru, tho, it does seems as if they're running scared. They know there's a growing tidal wave of us against them and they're scared shitless 'cuz there's more of us and they can't hide the truth as long as the internet exists. My guess is that even if they did pass this ridiculous bill that someone - a lot of someones - would find ways around it. So - they may try to run but they cannot hide.

And we know where they all live.........
CONDEMNATION without INVESTIGATION is the HIGHEST form of IGNORANCE
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Thought crimes, PRE-crimes. I think, therefore I am... a criminal.
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Barack Obama's regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein wants all "conspiracy theories" banned.

Not only is that a direct attack on human rights, journalists, news companies and freedom in all areas of life but it is truly a idiotic statement to make.


No, THIS IS.... ZioNWO! *kicks you in the pit*

chuckle
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These bills hold about as much steam as a threat from North Korea
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Is homeland security a whole new agency built from scratch? Sense its not apart of any others...


Are they cops or federal agents i dont get it?
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These bills hold about as much steam as a threat from North Korea
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I take a threat from North Korea quite serious
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This bill only moves FEDERAL CIVILIAN NETWORKS (i.e. government owned networks that are not used for military purposes) control from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

This is not proposed as a government take over of PRIVATE networks.

I wish people would learn to read and comprehend before drinking the koolaid.

Don't believe me? Fucking read the bill and have an intelligent debate.

bsflag
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This makes perfect sense... the government sees the impending collapse of the dollar and the US bankruptcy and knows the citizens will be leveraging the communication via the internet for the coming revolution... they think if they shut down the internet they can protect their power... granted it will certainly delay their coming but it will come regardless...
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These bills hold about as much steam as a threat from North Korea


I take a threat from North Korea quite serious
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good for you, live in fear
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This bill only moves FEDERAL CIVILIAN NETWORKS (i.e. government owned networks that are not used for military purposes) control from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

This is not proposed as a government take over of PRIVATE networks.

I wish people would learn to read and comprehend before drinking the koolaid.

Don't believe me? Fucking read the bill and have an intelligent debate.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998755


there are 40+ bills..which one are you talking about exactly?
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I agree with Barack all this info, it's no good for your tummy. All it does is keep you confused and cranky at bedtime.
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Glad I don't live in Amerika.
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Coming to a pretend democracy near you, very, very soon.
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there are 40+ bills..which one are you talking about exactly?
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Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010, the one discussed in the Federal News Radio article to which you linked.
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Too many people are awakening so to speak so they are just introducting another way to control the information. It was easy before the internet, they controlled all MSM and what everyone had access to.


Might be time to invest in a short-wave radio, just in case... better than nothing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910135


THAT is what I was looking for.

How DO we circumvent this or work around it, to keep information flowing as much as possible?

Had a freaky dream along these lines a long time ago. Never had context until recently. But, here in waking life, what are real possibilities????
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I wish people would learn to read and comprehend before drinking the koolaid.

Don't believe me? Fucking read the bill and have an intelligent debate.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998755

...and the Patriot Act was ONLY to be used against rag-heads and terr'ists, NEVER against Americans, right ??
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This bill only moves FEDERAL CIVILIAN NETWORKS (i.e. government owned networks that are not used for military purposes) control from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

This is not proposed as a government take over of PRIVATE networks.

I wish people would learn to read and comprehend before drinking the koolaid.

Don't believe me? Fucking read the bill and have an intelligent debate.

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998755


I could say that was insulting.

Instead, I will ask: Spoonfeed us, then, since you know so much. Tell us what you want us to know.
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there are 40+ bills..which one are you talking about exactly?


Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010, the one discussed in the Federal News Radio article to which you linked.
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so what about all the other bills huh?

many bills linked on that site btw

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Besides, don't you think free speech advocacy groups, large private network holders like AT&T, Comcast, and others would be a little upset if the government was trying to seize control of private citizens and corporations networks? Yet no press releases from them. Odd don't you think?

It's because these cyber security bills are about securing government networks, both civilian and military.

Yeah, some of them probably have some stupid wording in them, like the proposed "kill-switch" that made the news but was dropped when the law writers were told it'd be nigh impossible without a trillion dollar investment to change the fundamental nature of the internet.

In government parlance, "civilian" means agencies like Social Security Administration. Non-military. "Private" means you and me.
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Besides, don't you think free speech advocacy groups, large private network holders like AT&T, Comcast, and others would be a little upset if the government was trying to seize control of private citizens and corporations networks? Yet no press releases from them. Odd don't you think?

It's because these cyber security bills are about securing government networks, both civilian and military.

Yeah, some of them probably have some stupid wording in them, like the proposed "kill-switch" that made the news but was dropped when the law writers were told it'd be nigh impossible without a trillion dollar investment to change the fundamental nature of the internet.

In government parlance, "civilian" means agencies like Social Security Administration. Non-military. "Private" means you and me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998755


Don't forget about "Right means Left" and "Up means Down".
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Besides, don't you think free speech advocacy groups, large private network holders like AT&T, Comcast, and others would be a little upset if the government was trying to seize control of private citizens and corporations networks? Yet no press releases from them. Odd don't you think?

It's because these cyber security bills are about securing government networks, both civilian and military.

Yeah, some of them probably have some stupid wording in them, like the proposed "kill-switch" that made the news but was dropped when the law writers were told it'd be nigh impossible without a trillion dollar investment to change the fundamental nature of the internet.

In government parlance, "civilian" means agencies like Social Security Administration. Non-military. "Private" means you and me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998755


maybe because there is such a deluge of bills that nobody understands it all? why so many?

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So, why did you guys put a nazi dictator in power?
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Too many people are awakening so to speak so they are just introducting another way to control the information. It was easy before the internet, they controlled all MSM and what everyone had access to.


Might be time to invest in a short-wave radio, just in case... better than nothing...

Lots of good choices. I've several for differing power choices. AND, please remember, Ignorance is bliss for TPTB.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 614955


Can you elaborate? I know nothing about short-wave radio.

I'm looking for something basic, portable, maybe runs on AA batteries?

What do you suggest?
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Too many people are awakening so to speak so they are just introducting another way to control the information. It was easy before the internet, they controlled all MSM and what everyone had access to.


Might be time to invest in a short-wave radio, just in case... better than nothing...

Lots of good choices. I've several for differing power choices. AND, please remember, Ignorance is bliss for TPTB.


Can you elaborate? I know nothing about short-wave radio.

I'm looking for something basic, portable, maybe runs on AA batteries?

What do you suggest?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910135


Rather than a shortwave you should get a hand scanner, that way you get a choice of bands in case anyone is also broadcasting locally too on UHF\VHF or handheld radios.

I've already got one. ICOM IC-R20
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We can not allow the federal government (much less a single department whose head is appointed by the President) to gain this power. This is what it looks like when a dictatorship forms.
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+1001
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Too many people are awakening so to speak so they are just introducting another way to control the information. It was easy before the internet, they controlled all MSM and what everyone had access to.


Might be time to invest in a short-wave radio, just in case... better than nothing...



Ham radio is a really good back up for this kind of shit. You don't need a license just to listen; only to transmit. The license test for the 1st level is really easy and there's free internet study sites. 1st level license test costs $14.00 There are plenty of good used ham radios around, too.
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Can you elaborate as well?

As with SW, I know nothing about ham either. I used to have a CB radio once upon a time, but that's about it.

Which would be better, ham or SW? I'm just interested in listening at this point, should the SHTF and the internet gets cut off.

Where would be a good source of used equipment?
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maybe because there is such a deluge of bills that nobody understands it all? why so many?
 Quoting: FactCheck


I suspect it is politics as usual. A problem has been identified, publicized (this very topic was on 60 Minutes and 20/20 the last few weeks,) and now a power struggle to be the "one who saved the day" is underway.

But please don't get me wrong. I commend your vigilance in the face of government tyranny. I was just lashing out at the herd mentality of all the people who were so willing to go along without reading or understanding what was being discussed.

This bill is not reason to take to the streets. It just makes government bureaucrats report to a new douchebag in a different building.

We need people to watch these jerks. Because if we don't, one day we will wake up and they will be at our doors, to take what is ours while we slept.
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So, why did you guys put a nazi dictator in power?
 Quoting: BobbleHead


96% voting block of Im_an_idiots
(mr bill, oh no oh no, we have to let him
we have to let him or the Im_an_idiots will riot
oooooooooooooooooooooooooh noooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Too many people are awakening so to speak so they are just introducting another way to control the information. It was easy before the internet, they controlled all MSM and what everyone had access to.


Might be time to invest in a short-wave radio, just in case... better than nothing...

Lots of good choices. I've several for differing power choices. AND, please remember, Ignorance is bliss for TPTB.


Can you elaborate? I know nothing about short-wave radio.

I'm looking for something basic, portable, maybe runs on AA batteries?

What do you suggest?


Rather than a shortwave you should get a hand scanner, that way you get a choice of bands in case anyone is also broadcasting locally too on UHF\VHF or handheld radios.

I've already got one. ICOM IC-R20
 Quoting: BobbleHead


Now one of those I DO have already... runs on AA's. I forget what brand it is- I think it's one of those Radio Shack brands- Realistic? My husband bought it quite a while ago.

I would also like to have something like SW because it can pick up signals from much farther away.
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hey you radio people... even the shill admitted the kill switch is a farce. ok?

internet kill switch threads are here

Thread: Internet Kill Switch Proposed in Senate

Thread: Senators propose granting president emergency Internet power! KILL SWITCH?!?

Thread: Obama internet 'kill switch' proposed

Thread: Obama internet 'kill switch' proposed

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