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Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?

 
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Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Ha my mate had the aul kidney stones and he was in agony. They say it is close to the pain a woman feels when giving birth.
Is this true?
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Ha my mate had the aul kidney stones and he was in agony. They say it is close to the pain a woman feels when giving birth.
Is this true?
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I know a woman who has done both.

She says kidney stones are worse.

An ovarian cyst is worse than giving birth.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Don't leave your mate in pain.
This will help a lot.

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recipe--

Mix 2 oz of olive oil and 2 oz of lemon juice,
drink it straight down and follow with a large
glass of water at the first sign of stone pain.
The stone(s) will pass within 24 hours.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Hell no! Tell him the equivalent would be him trying to pass a bowel motion the size of a football.. and to feel the stretch and burn and probable tearing of the genital area. Then he can say he felt something the equivalent of giving birth naturally.

Kidney stones are very, very painful, as are gall stones... but no where near the same type of pain.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Ha my mate had the aul kidney stones and he was in agony. They say it is close to the pain a woman feels when giving birth.
Is this true?


I know a woman who has done both.

She says kidney stones are worse.


An ovarian cyst is worse than giving birth.
 Quoting: mopar28m


Yup..my mom has given birth four times and had two kidney stones. Said she would choose to have 15 more kids before experiencing another kidney stone.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Hell no! Tell him the equivalent would be him trying to pass a bowel motion the size of a football.. and to feel the stretch and burn and probable tearing of the genital area. Then he can say he felt something the equivalent of giving birth naturally.

Kidney stones are very, very painful, as are gall stones... but no where near the same type of pain.
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Agreed! AS IF!
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Hell no! Tell him the equivalent would be him trying to pass a bowel motion the size of a football.. and to feel the stretch and burn and probable tearing of the genital area. Then he can say he felt something the equivalent of giving birth naturally.

Kidney stones are very, very painful, as are gall stones... but no where near the same type of pain.
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The reverse equivalent would be trying to give birth to a freaking cinder block...all rough and sharp freaking edges....

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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
i would think trying to shit a regulation NFL football would be a better male equivalent.

just my $0.02 worth
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i would think trying to shit a regulation NFL football would be a better male equivalent.

just my $0.02 worth
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Covered in sandpaper and gravel...now make it a cube.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
only if its the size of a walnut
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
PLUS, childbirth includes HOURS of contractions (1 per 3 minutes for about 6 hours personally) which in many cases (mine) are more painful than the 30 minutes of pushing out the baby.

No drugs, at all.

Every childbirth is different, but I strongly disagree with the kidney stone theory.

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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
PLUS, childbirth includes HOURS of contractions (1 per 3 minutes for about 6 hours personally) which in many cases (mine) are more painful than the 30 minutes of pushing out the baby.

No drugs, at all.

Every childbirth is different, but I strongly disagree with the kidney stone theory.
 Quoting: GreenTabasco

Yep me too.. I was in labour for over 30 hours with my first child...
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
I have experiences both and I have to say the pain of the kidney stones was worse. While suffering the pain of kidney stones it was relentless excruciating agony and my BP and pulse both dropped through the floor. Eventually I was shot with enough pethidine to relieve it but I was told the next day that they thought they would lose me.

I have had 4 children all without pain relief apart from the last which was an emergency C section under spinal block. Child birth is massively painful but there are small gaps between contractions and the pain goes during the actual pushing and just those few seconds make a difference.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
I have known two people that passed a kidney stone and been through two births with my ex wife and can say that kidney stones seem to be worse for what I have seen and heard.

Strange as I would otherwise assume it would be the other way around.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Will this kidney stone cry when it comes out?

Then no.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
PLUS, childbirth includes HOURS of contractions (1 per 3 minutes for about 6 hours personally) which in many cases (mine) are more painful than the 30 minutes of pushing out the baby.

No drugs, at all.

 Quoting: GreenTabasco



Same. The contractions seem to ease once you start pushing.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
No...

Womens cooters are designed for babies to come out of... been doing it for millions of years.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
I've always thought of a woman giving birth to be pretty damn equivalent to a guy trying to shit a watermelon...
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Hell no! Tell him the equivalent would be him trying to pass a bowel motion the size of a football.. and to feel the stretch and burn and probable tearing of the genital area. Then he can say he felt something the equivalent of giving birth naturally.

Kidney stones are very, very painful, as are gall stones... but no where near the same type of pain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002468

The female body is designed to do that though.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Will this kidney stone cry when it comes out?

Then no.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973515


Or will you need to listen to it cry for 20 years, while yelling at it continually and spending vast amounts of money on it?

Then again - no.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
yes, earthclinic is an awesome site for advice about natural treatments for common ailments.

you should try to identify the cause and eliminate it from your diet otherwise it will keep coming back.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
The female body is designed to do that though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1007354


Doesn't mean its not complete agony. Let me guess... you're a guy? or you've never given birth.

And aren't our bodies designed to pass kidney stones too?
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i treat kidney stones for a living. people say they hurt, hope I never get one!!!

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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Women get so drugged up during child birth that they don't feel half of it anymore.
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
I had them and I thought something was going to explode and the doc told me they were the equivalent of child birth.

i think it was worse because if child birth was anything close to what i felt we would become extinct as a race.

but i guess every birth and kidney stone can/is different
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
I've often thought that if men had to give birth-including the nine months of gestation, there would be one heckuva lot less people in the world.

Christie Alley once said (and I never forgot it!) that givig birth was like pushing a watermelon through a lemon sized passage.

She's right ;)
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
I've given birth vaginally twice, and have passed a kidney stone that was blocked in the ureter for a bit.

Yes, the kidney stone was incredibly painful. It triggered such a high pain reaction that I could not stop vomiting. They did a CT scan and said the kidney stone had blocked the ureter completely, thus the excruciating pain. Finally, it passed into the bladder, big relief but it took 3 hours. Then it was painful as hell when it passed out of the urethra too; another hour of misery.

Still, 14 hours of hard labor was still worse! I had Pitocin to induce my first baby, and Pitocin to augment an extremely long labor with the second. I think that pit drug can make labor 100X worse than normal for sure. The drug makes the contractions very hard and come one after another with barely a break at all.

I'd rather have another kidney stone than go through that kind of labor again for sure!
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Woman who have done both (birthed children and passed stones) all nearly agree that childbirth is 'easier'.

But then a woman's urinary system is slightly wider, especially near the end thus the stone passing is less likely to scrape and cut at the side of the passage.

Men, not so lucky.

Now if Babies were hard as a rock and sharp as glass, babies would win hands down. But they are not. They pass through without cutting, scraping lots of plumbing.

Unlike stones which will cut, scrape and even sometimes puncture the passage.

Considering how much salt is in urine, imagine having paper cuts inside of you and then having someone pour salt on those.....
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
kidney stones are worse, i´m sure. A friend had some and he once fell unconscious from pain while peeing...
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Re: Is Kidney stones for men the equivalent of women given birth?
Women get so drugged up during child birth that they don't feel half of it anymore.
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I had no drugs.

And those that do have to wait until they get to hospital. There is the potential for hours of painful contractions before drugs are administered.

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