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Newest Chemtrail Poll (NOW): Choose the (best) reason for Chemtrails? . . . see results as they happen! . . . see results of last poll!!!
POLL: Choose (best) reason for Chemtrail concept?
 Weather wars (undeclared) . . .
 Military operations, experiments . . .
 Global climate modification . . .
 High efficiency Jet engines' use increase . . .
 Regional weather modification (i.e. cloud seeding) . . .
 TPTB - Population control/reduction, conceal astronomic changes . . .
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:Contrail Pic fro:

Persistent contrails and contrails evolving and spreading into cirrus clouds. Here, the humidity of the atmosphere is high, and the contrail ice particles continue to grow by taking up water from the surrounding atmosphere. These contrails extend for large distances and may last for hours. On other days when atmospheric humidity is
lower, the same aircraft passages might have left few or even no contrails.

From:
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Air and Radiation
(6205J)
1EPA
2Printed on paper that contains at least 30 percent postconsumer fiber.
Aircraft Contrails
Factsheet
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You left out:

Because paranoid retards need something to believe in.
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You left out:

Because paranoid retards need something to believe in.
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Well that includes more thant 75% of the respondents on the original poll . . . do you have any proof they don't exist?
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When they whiteout the sky it traps what would go up from not going up so it super saturates down below for what= trap heat and pollutants which when i see this i think they think of us as little people to profit from= slow kill or quick kill there is money to be made off us little people or the atmosphere has been f'ed up beyond repair and this is there cure but really i think there is more then meets the eye to all of this.
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When they whiteout the sky it traps what would go up from not going up so it super saturates down below for what= trap heat and pollutants which when i see this i think they think of us as little people to profit from= slow kill or quick kill there is money to be made off us little people or the atmosphere has been f'ed up beyond repair and this is there cure but really i think there is more then meets the eye to all of this.
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You are correct it is very complex . . . Come to the Debate in July . . .

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You forgot to include, ALL OF THE ABOVE... so I didn't vote in your poll.
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I contributed to your last Poll thread. I think, in this one, maybe an "All of the above" should have been included in the choices. That's my vote.

It will be interesting to see the results of what others think in this one.
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You forgot to include, ALL OF THE ABOVE... so I didn't vote in your poll.
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There are only six options allowed . . . I also wanted to force a choice of the single most likely . . . it isn't perfect but it is a good starting point. Please vote!
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I contributed to your last Poll thread. I think, in this one, maybe an "All of the above" should have been included in the choices. That's my vote.

It will be interesting to see the results of what others think in this one.
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I believe the correct one is all-of-the-above; however . . . there are only six options allowed . . . and I wanted to force a choice of the single most likely choice out of the entire list. . . it isn't perfect but it is a good starting point. Please vote!

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Take the two images above,  the first, dated April 10th 2010, before the volcano erupted, shows a large amount of contrails, and lots of cirrus clouds, many of which are probably contrail induced cirrus.  That was taken before the volcano erupted.  The second image, dated April 17th, shows no contrails at all.  The simple conclusion here is that removing air traffic made for vastly clearer skies over the UK.
[link to contrailscience.com]

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Saudi Pic 1991

This NOAA picture was taken 28 Jan 1991 which was about a month before the end of the First Gulf War according to wikipedia . . . so one can assume that :Air Supremacy had been achieved by the allies . . . and possibly no one was overly concerned about Contrail visibility; however, until hostilities were totally suppressed doesn't it seem reckless?
1. Why would you expose the visual location of Tankers, AWACS, etc. for possible targeting?
2. Makes one wonder if some of the persistent Trails over Iraq and Saudi may have other objectives?

NOTE: Was this photo shopped . . . I cannot confirm or deny but I highly doubt it . . . too easily discovered . . . (I thought I had found it on the NOAA site but when I looked I could not find it but did find it again on a Chemtrail Site . . . [link to www.nwbotanicals.org] )

The Persian Gulf War (commonly referred to as the Gulf War) (August 2, 1990 – February 28, 1991), was the final conflict initiated with United Nations authorization, by a coalition force from 34 nations against Iraq, with the expressed purpose of expelling Iraqi forces from Kuwait after its invasion and annexation on 2 August 1990. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Air supremacy is the complete dominance of the air power of one side's air forces over the other side's, during a military campaign. It is the most favorable state of control of the air. It is defined by NATO and the United States Department of Defense as "that degree of air superiority wherein the opposing air force is incapable of effective interference.“ [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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NASA scientists have found that cirrus clouds, formed by contrails from aircraft engine exhaust, are capable of increasing average surface temperatures enough to account for a warming trend in the United States that occurred between 1975 and 1994. According to Patrick Minnis, a senior research scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., there has been a one percent per decade increase in cirrus cloud cover over the United States, likely due to air traffic. Cirrus clouds exert a warming influence on the surface by allowing most of the Sun’s rays to pass through but then trapping some of the resulting heat emitted by the surface and lower atmosphere. Using a general circulation model, Minnis estimates that cirrus clouds from contrails increased the temperatures of the lower atmosphere by anywhere from 0.36 to 0.54°F per decade. Minnis’s results show good agreement with weather service data, which reveal that the temperature of the surface and lower atmosphere rose by almost 0.5°F per decade between 1975 and 1994.
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Typical evidence of the average observer . . . good example of what the average person sees and needs answers about.
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The condensation trail emitted by jet aircraft exhaust are called contrails. Contrails form when hot humid air from jet exhaust mixes with environmental air of low vapor pressure and low temperature. The mixing is a result of turbulence generated by the engine exhaust. Cloud formation by a mixing process is similar to the cloud you see when you exhale and "see your breath". The figure below represents how saturation vapor pressure varies as a function of temperature. The blue line is the saturation vapor pressure for ice as a function of temperature (in degrees Kelvin). Air parcels in the region labeled saturated will form a cloud. Imagine two parcels of air, A and B, as located on the diagram. Both parcels are unsaturated. If B represents the engine exhaust, then as it mixes with the environment (parcel A) its temperature and corresponding vapor pressure will follow the dotted line. Where this dotted line intersects the blue line is where the parcel becomes saturated, and a cloud will form.
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If you are attentive to contrail formation and duration, you will notice that they can rapidly dissipate or spread horizontally into an extensive thin cirrus layer. How long a contrail remains intact depends on the humidity structure and winds of the upper troposphere. If the atmosphere is near saturation the contrail may exist for some time. On the other hand, if the atmosphere is dry then as the contrail mixes with the environment it dissipates. Contrails are a concern in climate studies as increased jet aircraft traffic may result in an increase in cloud cover. It has been estimated that in certain heavy air-traffic corridors, cloud cover has increased by as much as 20%. An increase in cloud amount changes the region's radiation balance. For example, solar energy reaching the surface may be reduced, resulting in surface cooling. Contrail clouds also reduce the terrestrial energy losses of the planet, resulting in a warming. Jet exhaust also plays a role in modifying the chemistry of the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere. NASA and the DOE are sponsoring a research program to study the impact contrails have on atmospheric chemistry, weather and climate. [link to cimss.ssec.wisc.edu]

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USAF: The "Chemtrail" hoax has been investigated and refuted by many established and accredited universities, scientific organizations, and major media publications.


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The 757th Airlift Squadron was on an Active Duty Mission from the 1940's to 1973. The unit was assigned to the USAF Reserve in 1973.

The unit relocated in 1992 from 907 AW Rickenbacker ANGB OH to 910AW at Youngstown Air Reserve Station, OH.

The mission of the 757th Airlift Squadron is to maintain a large-area fixed-wing aerial application capability to control disease vectors in combat areas and on DoD installations; to maintain a large-area application capability to control vegetation and pests of vegetation on DoD installations; and to provide aerial spray training . . . :Chemtrails - 757:
Spray 'em out NEW ORLEANS -- A U.S. Air Force Reserve C-130 Hercules from the 910th Airlift Wing at Youngstown Air Reserve Station, Ohio, sprays Dibrom, a pesticide approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, over the city Sept. 13. The C-130 crew plans to spray the New Orleans area first, then other affected Gulf Coast areas as required. Crews will target are primarily mosquitoes and filth flies, which are capable of transmitting diseases such as Malaria, West Nile virus, and various types of Encephalitis. The C-130 is capable of spraying about 60,000 acres per day. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jacob N. Bailey)
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THE EARTH  BEFORE THE ERA OF CHEMTRAILS This image showing a relatively pristine earth was taken during the Apollo Missions between 1969 and 1972. The earth floats like a beautiful blue and white jewel in space with no haze or luminosity covering it. Compare it with the next few images of earth taken during the era of chemtrails.   Shocking isn't it. [link to imageevent.com]
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NASA SUGGESTS AEROSOLS ACCOUNT FOR 45% OF GLOBAL WARMING
”…new NASA research suggests about half the atmospheric warming measured in the Artic is due to airborne particles called aerosols. Aerosols can influence climate by reflecting or absorbing sunlight. The particles also affect climate by changing the reflectivity of clouds.”
NASA "models showed that regions of Earth with the strongest response to aerosols are the same regions that have witnessed the greatest actual temperature increases..."

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In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.


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There is controversy over who said:
“You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.”

Was it P.T. Barnum, Abraham Lincoln or someone else?
:Chem Lincoln:
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Seems most things end in controversy . . . No matter, this has a lot to do with the Chemtrail debate . . . Come to the July 2010 TRAIL/DEBATE on the issue.

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Edward Teller. Global Dimming. Geo-engineering.

If "chemtrailing" is done on purpose, these would be the most likely reasons why it would be done.

I suspect that as with all things we humans do, contrails are just the by-product of an industry that doesn't care enough to keep its emissions clean. Like so many other industries we humans pursue.
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find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please.

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Edward Teller. Global Dimming. Geo-engineering.

If "chemtrailing" is done on purpose, these would be the most likely reasons why it would be done.

I suspect that as with all things we humans do, contrails are just the by-product of an industry that doesn't care enough to keep its emissions clean. Like so many other industries we humans pursue.
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You are right on point . . . there is much documentation to support what you have just mentioned. It will be presented at the Debate in July. . .
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