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Bug-Out Bags 101

 
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5 stars OP. Great info....

I've done a lot of backpacking:

Muir Trail
Black Forest trail (PA)
Monghahelia (WV)
etc.

getting up there in years but still have most of my gear. Glad I didn't sell it. I've repacked it for bugout bags if need be. I've added a lot of fire making stuff:

Firesteel
Magnesium Block
WetFire
rope tinder
etc.

in this cold wet weather, one needs a lot of redundancy when it comes to fire making.

I see no need to go to a FEMA camp. Just sleep outside....
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OP, can i make some gear requests? theres stuff i dont wanna spend money on now, but would be great if youd get them and after TSHTF you can haul them out to my neck of the woods so i can snipe you and take it from you.

not that i plan on thieving from people, just that im not going to allow my beautiful pristine countryside to be infested with city slickers.


anybody with a "BOB" has already failed. the odds that you get out ahead of everyone else is NILL. you wont make it out in the woods. you'l get killed trying to occupy somebody elses land. you probly wont make it to your BOL if you have one, and when you get there it will already be occupied by others.

i have a "get home bag"

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6. Misc. Gear
Small snake bite kit.



you just told me you were a know nothing gear freak that buys shit but doesn't use it...

snake bite kit... gimme a fucking break.. have you EVER spent any time in the woods?

oh yea I go camping once a year...

snake bit kit
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I have never used one ever. But I still carry it because it is light. I go camping several weeks of the year. I get paid to do it, and I don't buy anything. If you're good enough, people send you stuff for free.
 Quoting: ZTE


"Good enough" at what, exactly? Camping a few weeks per year?

Are you kidding? I agree with the previous poster regarding the "Snake Bite Kit".

Does your kit include any sort of personal defense items,....or are you a Ninja "for a few weeks per year" as well?

Ya sound like a hippie that has managed to BS his way into getting some new gear items because you've written a few "...A funny thing happened on my way to Machu-Pichu" articles..." that mentioned granola and flowers enough times to be put on what .......come to think of it,.....would you care to direct us to some of your published articles?
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6. Misc. Gear
Small snake bite kit.



you just told me you were a know nothing gear freak that buys shit but doesn't use it...

snake bite kit... gimme a fucking break.. have you EVER spent any time in the woods?

oh yea I go camping once a year...

snake bit kit
 Quoting: Enigma


I have never used one ever. But I still carry it because it is light. I go camping several weeks of the year. I get paid to do it, and I don't buy anything. If you're good enough, people send you stuff for free.
 Quoting: ZTE


"Good enough" at what, exactly? Camping a few weeks per year?

Are you kidding? I agree with the previous poster regarding the "Snake Bite Kit".

Does your kit include any sort of personal defense items,....or are you a Ninja "for a few weeks per year" as well?

Ya sound like a hippie that has managed to BS his way into getting some new gear items because you've written a few "...A funny thing happened on my way to Machu-Pichu" articles..." that mentioned granola and flowers enough times to be put on what .......come to think of it,.....would you care to direct us to some of your published articles?
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he lists his only cutting tool as a SAK (swiss army knife) no knowledgable bush crafter would go out there with just a SAK. although do-able its just plain silly.

is the purpose of a bob to save wieght at great personal discomfort and possible death?
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I'm going to call OP out on his bullshit regarding the following
1. I won't name my backpack, because it is special order, custom made and 100% waterproof for 20 meters deep. It's not something you're going to find at Wal-Mart. BUT if you want to waterproof your backpack, get a Pack Cove

Sure thing buddy I want to see you dive 40 meters with a bag that is water proof. Even without water proofing your bag and hiking backpacks when on water WILL float. Who do you think you are RAMBO are you going to breath with a hay straw.

OP is full of shit
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Your auto or truck is what you need to consider as your Bug-Out Bag. You require gear and supplies to do anything more than tiptoe through the tulips up to your little outback shack...


Have said many times that a one ton 4x4 diesel crew cab pulling an 8k rated trailer is about the ideal bob... Or maybe you figure bugging-out is just for that traipse up to the cabin? You may be correct, but most don't have no cabin... Figuring to go Robinson Cruso without no Friday or island to bring you goodies from shipwrecks???

Have you pre-cached gear in the woods/wilderness already? Planning to do so? When? I'll tell ya, Buck-O that if you ain't been motivated to Do It Already; you probably won't ever get around to it... Such is human nature.

How good are you at cutting trail? That is making a departure from some point well-away from the trailhead or obvious jump-off point and going XC so those who may be laying in wait don't catch you in their sights??? Ever even think about that? Figure everybody on the trail you meet is gonna be as nice as the upscale packers at Yosemite? If so, you're in for a rude awakening. It may be your last.


Bugging-Out with backpack(s) is a pretty desperate act. Thinking that your meager gear will last and get you through is very optimistic at best and most likely fatal. Better for most to be thinking of other means to come through what they will be faced with; unless you got the gear and means to transport it.


Live anywhere near a National Forest or BLM land? Ever been in there, off the main roads? Got maps? If you just happened to be on a camping excursion, with your 4x4 and loaded trailer when TSHTF you could have a potential homesite... Would just have to make it yours, wouldn't you???


Got that fully stocked cabin back in some wilderness? How do you KNOW nobody else will get there first? Time to Bug-Out has likely come and gone. Need to be THERE before others decide they need to. Leaving a place ready to go might be rather short-sighted of you....

There are a handful of men and a couple women who could likely prosper if dropped into a wilderness with couple hundred pounds of gear. Most won't have the gear or skills they need. Most need store-bought crap that satisfies some checklist and never bother to learn how to use their tools or cook with the food they plan to eat.

There are a couple other threads on bug-out bags and gear. One is mine. Look on the archives.

There is no substitute for durable gear. Most stuff made these days isn't going to last. None of the gore-tex stuff really "works" in extensively wet environments. Thinking if you own this stuff, that you won't get wet means you never used it. Relying on an OR, Bibler, or military bivy bag to keep you dry in inclement weather will be a disaster. Might keep the nylon in your spensive sleeping bag from wearing out as fast as it normally would, but no more.

Next time you get a rainstorm, load your sleeping bag into your bivy and lay out in the rain, or even light drizzle. Then you will Know. You need to test all your gear that way, so you Know It...

Then test your Bug-Out route from your home to your jump-off site. Find alternative routes. Figure how to cut that trail 5 or 10 mi in so you bypass most of the ambushers. Better yet, move now and be setup before the time comes you need your place.

Not but maybe 1 in 1,000 of those with backpack mentality are going to make it. Maybe you still have time to develop a real plan? I hope so, and good luck!
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I'm going to call OP out on his bullshit regarding the following
1. I won't name my backpack, because it is special order, custom made and 100% waterproof for 20 meters deep. It's not something you're going to find at Wal-Mart. BUT if you want to waterproof your backpack, get a Pack Cove

Sure thing buddy I want to see you dive 40 meters with a bag that is water proof. Even without water proofing your bag and hiking backpacks when on water WILL float. Who do you think you are RAMBO are you going to breath with a hay straw.

OP is full of shit
 Quoting: Ready2bugout


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6. Misc. Gear
Small snake bite kit.



you just told me you were a know nothing gear freak that buys shit but doesn't use it...

snake bite kit... gimme a fucking break.. have you EVER spent any time in the woods?

oh yea I go camping once a year...

snake bit kit
 Quoting: Enigma


I have never used one ever. But I still carry it because it is light. I go camping several weeks of the year. I get paid to do it, and I don't buy anything. If you're good enough, people send you stuff for free.
 Quoting: ZTE


"Good enough" at what, exactly? Camping a few weeks per year?

Are you kidding? I agree with the previous poster regarding the "Snake Bite Kit".

Does your kit include any sort of personal defense items,....or are you a Ninja "for a few weeks per year" as well?

Ya sound like a hippie that has managed to BS his way into getting some new gear items because you've written a few "...A funny thing happened on my way to Machu-Pichu" articles..." that mentioned granola and flowers enough times to be put on what .......come to think of it,.....would you care to direct us to some of your published articles?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545134


he lists his only cutting tool as a SAK (swiss army knife) no knowledgable bush crafter would go out there with just a SAK. although do-able its just plain silly.

is the purpose of a bob to save wieght at great personal discomfort and possible death?
 Quoting: theGOOCH


Agree on the Get home bag, by the way...
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I have never used one ever. But I still carry it because it is light. I go camping several weeks of the year. I get paid to do it, and I don't buy anything. If you're good enough, people send you stuff for free.
 Quoting: ZTE


"Good enough" at what, exactly? Camping a few weeks per year?

Are you kidding? I agree with the previous poster regarding the "Snake Bite Kit".

Does your kit include any sort of personal defense items,....or are you a Ninja "for a few weeks per year" as well?

Ya sound like a hippie that has managed to BS his way into getting some new gear items because you've written a few "...A funny thing happened on my way to Machu-Pichu" articles..." that mentioned granola and flowers enough times to be put on what .......come to think of it,.....would you care to direct us to some of your published articles?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545134


he lists his only cutting tool as a SAK (swiss army knife) no knowledgable bush crafter would go out there with just a SAK. although do-able its just plain silly.

is the purpose of a bob to save wieght at great personal discomfort and possible death?
 Quoting: theGOOCH


Agree on the Get home bag, by the way...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6114204


thanx
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Fire or flood and you will be forced to bug out.....
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Fire or flood and you will be forced to bug out.....
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i cant flood here and i can deal with most fires.
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Don't forget if possible to have a cache somewhere buried.
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I am an eagle scout prepper who is a wilderness survival instructer. I have spent a good portion of my life working on primitive skills living, primitive weapons construction and proficiency, shelter building, varias fieldcraft.

Bugging in is great. Getting/being home is great. I don't plan on leaving my domicile. Having said that I have a bug out bag. so does the wife. If I have to leave, im planning on hitting deep wilderness as soon as possible. Idealy, our bikes with burley flatbed trailers with our two truck boxes of vital long term camping gear. We also carry a shoulder bag in such a scenario with the most important stuff for wilderness survival (opinion) as a platform for evasion, survival and eventual relocation. This "not coming back bag" is more of a tool bag in concept with items to provide a platform of technology in the woods until I can evade or can get somewhere I can do fieldcraft with more primitive skillsets I possess.

I have been an herbalist for 12 years and we have not been to a doctor in 10. I make all of our plant medicine, and I have spent the last 4 years learning to forage much of the natural flora for eating medicine. So this kind of bag will not work for someone without the kinds of skill sets we have.

condor tactical, "tactical attache"
katadyn pocket water filter
british canvas sediment water filter
us canteen cup, with old school solid fuel stove
usgi ripstop BLACK (dont want your rain gear to give you away as prepared when skirting urban areas).
space brand tarpalized mylar blanket with hood and gromets. Looking to upgrade to two blizzard brand bags (think winter here)
1 20 oz cheap water bottle.
1 yankee candle 36 hr candle in the sealable tin.
1 datrex 36 hr food bar
1 survival tool kit in pelican case (the one with the sabre cut saw thats like 50 bucks)
1 ruger mkII govt target model pistol, 6-3/4 inch bull barrel in stainless and 3 mags. 150 rds each of .22lr Aguila sss and CCI MiniMag. 100 rds sellier and bellot .22lr match 40gr left over from the 86 chek olympics.
25 bars old school .mil trioxane tablets in foil.
1 gerber multi tool
1 cold steel bushman
3 magnesium/striker bars for firestarting
2 bic lighters

bag of dried herbs seperated. lobelia, cayenne, mullein, yerba mate.
4 oz grapefruit seed extract
4 oz essential oil of oregano
small first aid kit some gauze, tape, needles, sutures.

If I were to leave in the winter I would wear surplus wool pants with button fly, and heavy wool swiss officers coat. Wool shirt, poly pro ecw underwear. I dont believe in zippers, modern synthetic fabrics etc. I have lots of gore tex in my preps but I dont think I trust alot of that to last long if I had to wear it everyday, clothes on my back. I would also leave with my cas hanwei tactical wakazashi on a sword shoulder harness.
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thats usgi BLACK poncho

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