I think my college life is being set up by my freemason father...

Was the button on the pillow of your bed? Was it a metaphor or request of some type?

Something to ponder...

Welcome to the world of occultism OP!

Lucky you, now you have been introduced to "special knowledge".

Google "Memphis-Misraïm" for more info about masonry and Eygptian symbolism.


Seriously now, though they will strongly deny it, masonry is ultimately about power-seeking, Hermeticism, Goetia, occultism and all kind esoteric teachings. Sure it may seem cool, but in the end it also means doing this kind of sh..

Watch this, jump to 6:00 for the "funny" part:
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That's right, masons slaying a goat on a pentagram over a checkerboard. Unless it's for some BBQ?



So? You want to have a network of fine "friends" to help you in life no matter what? Go for it. But it also means you are THEIRS. You'll have allies, but you will loose your freedom.


If you are just curious about their "secret knowledge", don't bother joining them. It's all for free over the net now, that's the 21st century :D! Just learn to separate the wheat from the chaff when you do search for info.

Don't believe me? Look what what you can get packed and shipped to your doorstep:
[link to www.amazon.fr]

The oldest available version of the lesser keys of Salomon (famous spellbook), handwritten, from 1641, straight from the collection of famous occultist Stanislas de Guaita.

Seriously. There are no secret knowledge in this world. It's all there for you to find. You don't need to be in debt with them for so few.


Also, you can still enjoy the frat if you like :D Just don't accept to join the masons if your guts say so. But if it's what you want, then go for it and take care!

Also, I don't know if it has been said but something like this:
[link to www.amazon.com]

or online:
[link to www.umich.edu]

Might help you understand some symbols

e.g.:
I think there is a ladder:
The ladder (or staircase) is symbolic of the connection between HEAVEN and EARTH. It represents progress, ascenscion, and spiritual passage through the levels of initiation. In the Bible, Jacob's ladder established contact between man and God, and there are seven rungs on the ladder of virtue. It can also connote ambition, as in the gradual acquisition of knowledge, as well as overcoming a problem.

According to Freud, the ladder has dream connections with the sexual act. In modern folklore, walking under a ladder is considered bad luck.

Oh and the tree is Yggdrasil (already said earlier I think)

Lucky you OP, your old man obviously cares about your success more than just seeing you as someone to borrow money from!

Seriously, Russ, you are starting to piss me off !

"My father has also talked with me about joining a fraternity
in my freshman year that's associated with the OTO but I have no interest in doing so."

Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) (Order of the Temple of the East, or the Order of Oriental Templars) is an international fraternal and religious organization founded at the beginning of the 20th century. English author and occultist Aleister Crowley (google him!) has become the most well known member of the order.

Originally it was intended to be modelled after and associated with Freemasonry,[1] but under the leadership of Aleister Crowley, O.T.O. was reorganized around the Law of Thelema as its central religious principle. This Law—expressed as “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" [2] and "Love is the law, love under will” [3]—was promulgated in 1904 with the dictation of The Book of the Law.

Similar to many secret societies, O.T.O. membership is based on an initiatory system with a series of degree ceremonies that use ritual drama to establish fraternal bonds and impart spiritual and philosophical teachings.

O.T.O. also includes the Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica (EGC) or Gnostic Catholic Church, which is the ecclesiastical arm of the Order. Its central rite, which is public, is called Liber XV, or the Gnostic Mass.





If you're saying the truth, this should make it clear that daddy doesn't only wants you to be a nice caring and honest mason, but a master in occultism.

Again, here's another proof that freemasonry and occultism ARE INDEED CONNECTED.

i dont know if ther evil but ther ok on the "outside" as a poor kid thay did a christmas this and gave us some nice stuff .
but i wandered the lodge lots of tools n shinys is glass cases

but ive heard things...

They're not evil, they're tools for the steps above them in the pyramid.

But who's the capstone?

i agree with Zit that you shouldnt reject the help, and dont embarrass your family and friends.

normal people doing normal things in a normal world.

I think ones on the top are working with external multi-dimensional forces what some might call aliens. How do I know this? Well, I dont but I have personal experience about these multidimensional beings so basing my theory upon my own personal experience.

There is no such thing as "normal" . Such concept is used to keep sheeple in line.

Freemasonry is a satanic organization.

That's called Goetia. I think exactly the same. They are wannabe-magicians. I hope they have the willpower to control what they summon though.

They do ceremonial magic also, whether knowingly or not:

Ceremonial magic (or magick) is a broad term used in the context of Hermeticism or Western esotericism to encompass a wide variety of long, elaborate, and complex magical rituals; it is named as such because the works included are characterized by ceremony and a myriad of necessary accessories to aid the practitioner. It can be seen as an extension of ritual magic, and in most cases synonymous with it. Popularized by the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, it draws on such schools of philosophical and occult thought as Hermetic Qabalah, Enochian magic, Thelema, and the magic of various grimoires.

If freemasonry wasn't emphasizing on rituals, symbols, accessories, I wouldn't say so. But that's a fact.

Also for the record, I do believe a catholic mass is also ceremonial magic. So magic doesn't automatically mean evil. It's what you make of it. But as for the masons, I wonder why they keep it so secret (even denying it). Something they are not very proud of?

you will accept the gifts that are offered to you.

The coin looks more druidic -- almost like a tree with interlaced branches and roots, plus the interlacings look like Celtic knots. Not masonic as far as I know.

Just be aware that if your dad's friend owns the building, you will have no privacy. All your comings and goings (visitors etc.) will be noticed.

True masons will not try to convert you, it's not part of the game. They might suggest that you check it out but that's all.

I wonder if your dad belongs to other esoteric organizations that you don't know about.

what he/she said

story of my life

“Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled ...”

“The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.” (pp. 104, 105 & 819)

General Albert Pike wrote those words in a work called Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, 1871. At the time his title was The Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite in Washington D.C. This book is revered by occult groups across the globe, and most masons have never read it, let alone understood it. It deals with the occult origins of the symbols, initiations, and rituals of Freemasonry. Morals and Dogma is typically only giving to Master Masons. It is estimated that for every hundred Masons, ten will read it, three will finish it and only one will understand it.

The rites and rituals of Freemasonry are directly derived from ancient occult mysteries. 1 An Entered Apprentice is deceived from the beginning, as Pike has openly admitted; at the same time revealing its likeness with the "Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy."

Pike said the initiate is "intentionally misled by false interpretations." Another esteemed Mason put it this way:

“FREEMASONRY is a fraternity within a fraternity — an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect. Before it is possible to intelligently discuss the origin of the Craft, it is necessary, therefore, to establish the existence of these two separate yet interdependent orders, the one visible and the other invisible. The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of 'free and accepted' men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most august fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcanum arcanorum. Those Brethren who have essayed to write the history of their Craft have not included in their disquisitions the story of that truly secret inner society which is to the body Freemasonic what the heart is to the body human.”
- Manly P. Hall 33°, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy and Introduction to the Study and Application of Rational Procedure, p. 397 [Chapter 19 - Rosicrucian and Masonic Origins]

“When a mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy.”
- Manly P. Hall, 33°, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, p. 48

The latter quote, in particular, may be surprising to some but occultists have a clear concept of what Manly P. Hall was conveying. To them, the true definition of occultism is the science of energy flow and energy relationships. Occult meditation is a means of consciously and purposefully directing energy from a recognized source to the creation of some specific effect. This is the task of the initiate in all Occult groups. The initiator shows the candidate his latent faculties, his dormant powers, and initiates him into their use. He explains or demonstrates how the candidate may awaken the static energy into dynamic power.

Freemasonry has always, admittedly, held deep occult secrets which it hides from the "profane" and unworthy. One person who believed this to be true was Alice Ann Bailey. Her praise and admiration - she appeared to be almost in awe of the craft - was evident throughout all her works. A typical flattery can be found on p. 511 of The Externalization of the Hierarchy: "The Masonic Movement . . . is the custodian of the law; it is the home of the Mysteries and the seat of initiation. ...It is a far more occult organization than can be realized, and is intended to be the training school for the coming advanced occultists. In its ceremonials lies hid the wielding of the forces connected with the growth and life of the kingdoms of nature and the unfoldment of the divine aspects of man."
The Occult Revival

“Satanic Ritual is a blend of Gnostic, Cabbalistic, Hermetic, and Masonic elements, incorporating nomenclature and vibratory words of power from virtually every mythos .... Masonic orders have contained the most influential men in many governments, and virtually every occult order has many Masonic roots.”
- Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Rituals — Companion to the Satanic Bible, pp. 21, 78 [PDF Version here]

The occult revival of the 20th century can be directly attributed to Freemasonry and its peripheral entourage of acolytes: Theosophy, the New Age Movement, Satanism, Cabalistic Black Magic, Enochian Magic, Gerardian Wicca, Alexandrian Wicca and Sex Magic.

Ordinary freemasonry is nothing to worry about. The OTO, however, is something else entirely (not related to freemasonry) -- and the Rosemary's baby imagery is kind of appropriate. Google Aleister Crowley and watch your step.

So you say. All roads lead to Rome.

Your knowledge about masonry is very selective.

Embrace your destiny OP...you have given the chance to learn lot about mysteries of the universe.

LoL, like you need a mason dad for that. Since when do you require an invitation to start learning things?

If his guts are telling him there's something wrong, it's for a reason. And once you are familiar with the "mysteries of the universe", you know you have to trust your guts. Always.

The tree is Yggdrasil. It has been said before on this thread, BUT, the coin is not celtic.

There's a dharma wheel as well as Egyptian and esoteric symbols.

So toss around : Nordic Mythology, Buddhism mysticism, Egyptian lore and Masonic symbols and you've got a nice theosophic toy.

Just the kind of Scheiße occultists love.

Looks like your dad cares about your education and life in general. If he is a freemason, he will also follow his rituals/beliefs.

I think you should talk to him about your concerns. I understand that every cult/religion/group has its good followers and the ones that seek personal power to manipulate others. Your dad doesn't give me the impression of being an evil human being, but you are the only one who can know that.

Some irresponsible people here, tells you to go away and never see your dad again. Very easy for them to say, since they are not on your shoes. Go where?, to live what?. As if there is no 'evil' in the world other than the 'masonery'.

You are in a privilege position. Use it to your advantage. Don't panic. Learn. Learn about your dad's beliefs, learn about yours and choose what is best for you (you will know).

Don't just panick and 'run to the hills' because you may find out that the hills are not better than where you are.

Good luck and congratulations because I think you have it.

Also I believe the bird is not an eagle, but a vulture.
[link to www.civilization.ca]

Symbol of Nekhbet and of Upper Egypt.

LoL, never said that. I even said he should enjoy his college years if they are paid by daddy.

Just told him not to jump on the masonic (or occult?) wagon if he doesn't want to. Many masons have no idea what organization they are really a member of.

I'm not saying it's an evil organization. Just that there is way, way more than meets the eye. AND, it has to do with the occult.