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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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Hell, I thought I was stuck in a time warp there for a day or two! Talk about a mindf**k! Thanks for the wake up, guys and gals! For a minute, I thought Hans had pulled us into his jet lag.

edit: WELCOME HOME HANS!!!


And then I thought I stalled it again...

Thanks, Tutu!
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You're welcome. Seems like we're in the null zone between Europe/East Coast and Australia......dreamtime.
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edit: We need some Hawaiians to take up the slack! Hana Hou!

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Which apparently I did...

So how about this, anybody for space weather warnings?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I've been watching this site for awhile and I don't recall seeing a green bar. Couldn't find a description on Space Weather scales...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Any ideas?
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Distracted my music, happens with me from time to time. lol.
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Which apparently I did...

So how about this, anybody for space weather warnings?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I've been watching this site for awhile and I don't recall seeing a green bar. Couldn't find a description on Space Weather scales...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Any ideas?
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Aye the green bar is a watch indicator, i follow it to :-Mud
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Which apparently I did...

So how about this, anybody for space weather warnings?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I've been watching this site for awhile and I don't recall seeing a green bar. Couldn't find a description on Space Weather scales...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Any ideas?
 Quoting: 1221 1093619


Well, looks like another hurry-up-and-wait for another day.
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why is this thread allowed to continue on and on and on............
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Which apparently I did...

So how about this, anybody for space weather warnings?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I've been watching this site for awhile and I don't recall seeing a green bar. Couldn't find a description on Space Weather scales...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Any ideas?



Aye the green bar is a watch indicator, i follow it to :-Mud
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Yes, but is the A>20 bigger than a G5? I couldn't find any explanations for A index...
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<snip>

Quoting: "The agency said it has reopened 21,764 sq km of Gulf waters to commercial and recreational fishing, extending from the Louisiana state water line to due south of the Alabama and Florida state line. The move meant 99.6 per cent of federal waters were now open. "

They are saying to the world, Look see, all fixed, nothing to see here, go back to your TV's we have much more interesting distractions for you, see the News reader has a new hair cut.

Meanwhile in the affected areas people are told it's only affecting a limited area, you're making too much of this. Then one day the tide washes oil plumes onto the beaches of the East coast and Europe and it's all too late. What am I saying? It's already too late. :-Mud

Mud, darlin', it's been too late for months now. We all are screwed. Somebody, please pull the screw out of my head.
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this page is going on forever...what happened?
have we lost our oomph?
are we intimidated?
are we discouraged?
are we ____________?
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edit: HA! we finally got off 1025 - Thank You!
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I know it is for some areas but damn it does it have to continue! And this whole lie to them it won't matter they will forget is very irritating. :- Mud
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EDIT TO ADD:

G 5

Extreme

Power systems: : widespread voltage control problems and protective system problems can occur, some grid systems may experience complete collapse or blackouts. Transformers may experience damage.

Spacecraft operations: may experience extensive surface charging, problems with orientation, uplink/downlink and tracking satellites.

Other systems: pipeline currents can reach hundreds of amps, HF (high frequency) radio propagation may be impossible in many areas for one to two days, satellite navigation may be degraded for days, low-frequency radio navigation can be out for hours, and aurora has been seen as low as Florida and southern Texas (typically 40° geomagnetic lat.)**.
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Which apparently I did...

So how about this, anybody for space weather warnings?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I've been watching this site for awhile and I don't recall seeing a green bar. Couldn't find a description on Space Weather scales...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Any ideas?



Aye the green bar is a watch indicator, i follow it to :-Mud


Yes, but is the A>20 bigger than a G5? I couldn't find any explanations for A index...
 Quoting: 1221 1093619


Ahh well from their descriptions I had "assumed" it was a sort of alert level with the higher the number the more likely an event. :-Mud
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Well, at least things are uiet. But is that the calm before the storm I wonder?


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<snip>

Quoting: "The agency said it has reopened 21,764 sq km of Gulf waters to commercial and recreational fishing, extending from the Louisiana state water line to due south of the Alabama and Florida state line. The move meant 99.6 per cent of federal waters were now open. "

They are saying to the world, Look see, all fixed, nothing to see here, go back to your TV's we have much more interesting distractions for you, see the News reader has a new hair cut.

Meanwhile in the affected areas people are told it's only affecting a limited area, you're making too much of this. Then one day the tide washes oil plumes onto the beaches of the East coast and Europe and it's all too late. What am I saying? It's already too late. :-Mud

Mud, darlin', it's been too late for months now. We all are screwed. Somebody, please pull the screw out of my head.
rivotears

this page is going on forever...what happened?
have we lost our oomph?
are we intimidated?
are we discouraged?
are we ____________?
tantrum

edit: HA! we finally got off 1025 - Thank You!


I know it is for some areas but damn it does it have to continue! And this whole lie to them it won't matter they will forget is very irritating. :- Mud
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You, my dear, are a master of understatement. Thank you!
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New and important evidence found in the sophisticated “Stuxnet” malware targeting industrial control systems provides strong hints that the code was designed to sabotage nuclear plants, and that it employs a subtle sabotage strategy that involves briefly speeding up and slowing down physical machinery at a plant over a span of weeks.

“It indicates that [Stuxnet's creators] wanted to get on the system and not be discovered and stay there for a long time and change the process subtly, but not break it,” says Liam O Murchu, researcher with Symantec Security Response, which published the new information in an updated paper (.pdf) on Friday.

The Stuxnet worm was discovered in June in Iran, and has infected more than 100,000 computer systems worldwide. At first blush it appeared to be a standard, if unusually sophisticated, Windows virus designed to steal data, but experts quickly determined it contained targeted code designed to attack Siemens Simatic WinCC SCADA systems. SCADA systems, short for “supervisory control and data acquisition,” are control systems that manage pipelines, nuclear plants, and various utility and manufacturing equipment.

Researchers determined that Stuxnet was designed to intercept commands sent from the SCADA system to control a certain function at a facility, but until Symantec’s latest research it was not known what function was being targeted for sabotage. Symantec still has not determined what specific facility or type of facility Stuxnet targeted, but the new information lends weight to speculation that Stuxnet was targeting the Bushehr or Natanz nuclear facilities in Iran as a means to sabotage Iran’s nascent nuclear program.

According to Symantec, Stuxnet targets specific frequency converter drives — power supplies that are used to control the speed of a device, such as a motor. The malware intercepts commands sent to the drives from the Siemens SCADA software, and replaces them with malicious commands to control the speed of a device, varying it wildly, but intermittently.

The malware, however, doesn’t just sabotage any frequency converter. It inventories a plant’s network and only springs to life if the plant has at least 33 frequency converter drives made by Fararo Paya in Teheran, Iran, or by the Finland-based Vacon.

Even more specifically, Stuxnet targets only frequency drives from these two companies that are running at high speeds – between 807Hz and 1210Hz. Such high speeds are used only for select applications. Symantec is careful not to say definitively that Stuxnet was targeting a nuclear facility, but notes that “frequency converter drives that output over 600Hz are regulated for export in the United States by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission as they can be used for uranium enrichment.”

No link its from Thread: UVB-76 - Important message in 16 days. (Page 260)

Near the bottom of the page. more info also. rken
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Well, at least things are uiet. But is that the calm before the storm I wonder?


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The big question is - will you ever get a new keyboard with a functioning Q?
88 scorpions? My three grandsons and 85 more will have to settle up, I'd wager.
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The wife has promised me a new one for Christmas, LOL. So I am in the waiting mode.

This is the keyboard I use:


[link to www.cvtinc.com]


about $200. but the last one lasted over 20 years of hard use.
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Top News of the Day:
Nov 15, 2010: The high speed winds rolled in on Sunday, with no strong evidence for any of last week’s CMEs. The caution against any significant activity held true, as the Earth’s geomagnetic field has barely registered any impacts, even from the high speed wind. The high winds are expected to persist for another day or so. There was an additional CME on Saturday that resulted from a filament eruption early in the day, and which is currently forecast to arrive on Thursday Nov 18.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


The A and K indices are a measurement of the behavior of the magnetic field in and around the earth. The K index uses a scale from 0 to 9 to measure the change in the horizontal component of the geomagnetic field. A new K index is determined and added to the broadcast every 3 hours based on magnetometer measurements made at the Table Mountain Observatory, north of Boulder, Colorado, or an alternate middle latitude observatory. The A index is a daily value on a scale from 0 to 400 to express the range of disturbance of the geomagnetic field. It is obtained by converting and averaging the eight, 3-hour K index values. An estimate of the A index is first announced at 2100 UTC, based on 7 measurements and 1 estimated value. At 0000 UTC, the announced A index consists entirely of known measurements, and the word "estimated" is dropped from the announcement.

[link to www.nist.gov]
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EDIT TO ADD:

G 5

Extreme

Power systems: : widespread voltage control problems and protective system problems can occur, some grid systems may experience complete collapse or blackouts. Transformers may experience damage.

Spacecraft operations: may experience extensive surface charging, problems with orientation, uplink/downlink and tracking satellites.

Other systems: pipeline currents can reach hundreds of amps, HF (high frequency) radio propagation may be impossible in many areas for one to two days, satellite navigation may be degraded for days, low-frequency radio navigation can be out for hours, and aurora has been seen as low as Florida and southern Texas (typically 40° geomagnetic lat.)**.
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Also probably has something to do with the poles being way out of whack. Wish there was a CREDIBLE NGO source for polar magnetic tracking.
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New and important evidence found in the sophisticated “Stuxnet” malware targeting industrial control systems provides strong hints that the code was designed to sabotage nuclear plants, and that it employs a subtle sabotage strategy that involves briefly speeding up and slowing down physical machinery at a plant over a span of weeks.

“It indicates that [Stuxnet's creators] wanted to get on the system and not be discovered and stay there for a long time and change the process subtly, but not break it,” says Liam O Murchu, researcher with Symantec Security Response, which published the new information in an updated paper (.pdf) on Friday.

The Stuxnet worm was discovered in June in Iran, and has infected more than 100,000 computer systems worldwide. At first blush it appeared to be a standard, if unusually sophisticated, Windows virus designed to steal data, but experts quickly determined it contained targeted code designed to attack Siemens Simatic WinCC SCADA systems. SCADA systems, short for “supervisory control and data acquisition,” are control systems that manage pipelines, nuclear plants, and various utility and manufacturing equipment.

Researchers determined that Stuxnet was designed to intercept commands sent from the SCADA system to control a certain function at a facility, but until Symantec’s latest research it was not known what function was being targeted for sabotage. Symantec still has not determined what specific facility or type of facility Stuxnet targeted, but the new information lends weight to speculation that Stuxnet was targeting the Bushehr or Natanz nuclear facilities in Iran as a means to sabotage Iran’s nascent nuclear program.

According to Symantec, Stuxnet targets specific frequency converter drives — power supplies that are used to control the speed of a device, such as a motor. The malware intercepts commands sent to the drives from the Siemens SCADA software, and replaces them with malicious commands to control the speed of a device, varying it wildly, but intermittently.

The malware, however, doesn’t just sabotage any frequency converter. It inventories a plant’s network and only springs to life if the plant has at least 33 frequency converter drives made by Fararo Paya in Teheran, Iran, or by the Finland-based Vacon.

Even more specifically, Stuxnet targets only frequency drives from these two companies that are running at high speeds – between 807Hz and 1210Hz. Such high speeds are used only for select applications. Symantec is careful not to say definitively that Stuxnet was targeting a nuclear facility, but notes that “frequency converter drives that output over 600Hz are regulated for export in the United States by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission as they can be used for uranium enrichment.”

No link its from Thread: UVB-76 - Important message in 16 days. (Page 260)

Near the bottom of the page. more info also. rken
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Thanks, rken!
These hackers are brilliant! Wonder if they will ever be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize?
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And the cleanup went so well to


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New and important evidence found in the sophisticated “Stuxnet” malware targeting industrial control systems provides strong hints that the code was designed to sabotage nuclear plants, and that it employs a subtle sabotage strategy that involves briefly speeding up and slowing down physical machinery at a plant over a span of weeks.

“It indicates that [Stuxnet's creators] wanted to get on the system and not be discovered and stay there for a long time and change the process subtly, but not break it,” says Liam O Murchu, researcher with Symantec Security Response, which published the new information in an updated paper (.pdf) on Friday.

The Stuxnet worm was discovered in June in Iran, and has infected more than 100,000 computer systems worldwide. At first blush it appeared to be a standard, if unusually sophisticated, Windows virus designed to steal data, but experts quickly determined it contained targeted code designed to attack Siemens Simatic WinCC SCADA systems. SCADA systems, short for “supervisory control and data acquisition,” are control systems that manage pipelines, nuclear plants, and various utility and manufacturing equipment.

Researchers determined that Stuxnet was designed to intercept commands sent from the SCADA system to control a certain function at a facility, but until Symantec’s latest research it was not known what function was being targeted for sabotage. Symantec still has not determined what specific facility or type of facility Stuxnet targeted, but the new information lends weight to speculation that Stuxnet was targeting the Bushehr or Natanz nuclear facilities in Iran as a means to sabotage Iran’s nascent nuclear program.

According to Symantec, Stuxnet targets specific frequency converter drives — power supplies that are used to control the speed of a device, such as a motor. The malware intercepts commands sent to the drives from the Siemens SCADA software, and replaces them with malicious commands to control the speed of a device, varying it wildly, but intermittently.

The malware, however, doesn’t just sabotage any frequency converter. It inventories a plant’s network and only springs to life if the plant has at least 33 frequency converter drives made by Fararo Paya in Teheran, Iran, or by the Finland-based Vacon.

Even more specifically, Stuxnet targets only frequency drives from these two companies that are running at high speeds – between 807Hz and 1210Hz. Such high speeds are used only for select applications. Symantec is careful not to say definitively that Stuxnet was targeting a nuclear facility, but notes that “frequency converter drives that output over 600Hz are regulated for export in the United States by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission as they can be used for uranium enrichment.”

No link its from Thread: UVB-76 - Important message in 16 days. (Page 260)

Near the bottom of the page. more info also. rken

Thanks, rken!
These hackers are brilliant! Wonder if they will ever be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize?
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To be honest that sounds like a professional hit, with such selective features as proactive detection of weapons grade features. :-Mud
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And the cleanup went so well to


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I cant believe this thread is still going, so just to imput something and forever have my post in this thread, this is it, my post, yeah, that feels good, and now for something comepletly ridiculess......................
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My girl friend has a D.E.D link on her laptop from the French Embassy. (She works at the embassy)

Crazy traffic on DED
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Did oil mining cause Haiti's earthquake? The connection between oil production and earthquakes dates back to at least the 1920s, when geologists in South Texas noted faulting near the Goose Creek oil field.

[link to open.salon.com]

The above article got me to thinking. Considering the size of the field in the GoM I suspect that this situation is only on hold. Greed will have them back at it as soon as possible if not already. It is a frail region geologically and from what I understand the area of the reservoir extends from under southern USA to Ecuador, it contains massive methane pockets estimated to be at 100,000 psi as its pressurised by volcanic activity.

So they keep sticking holes in it and hope nothing happens. Good plan. I could see an event triggered there allowing the great lakes to empty into the GoM which would perhaps flush out the "spilled" oil. :-Mud
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For those guys that may have missed it i thought id repost this link. It has a very good evaluation of the cal missile if you follow it through.
I think you need to at least grasp the logic here before it can be disregaurded.
As the ac said a couple of posts back. It dosent explain the other missile sightings....or does it???????
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Close..... I was at a very long card game.... tounge
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And when are we catching up for that beer?

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My girl friend has a D.E.D link on her laptop from the French Embassy. (She works at the embassy)

Crazy traffic on DED

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OK I'll bite.... what is your point?
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Bad Hair my man! Am I glad to see you. I been halfway 'round the world since we last talked. How's it going?
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Bad Hair my man! Am I glad to see you. I been halfway 'round the world since we last talked. How's it going?
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Very good my friend. I promise to fix my audio for next time. Are you sampling each locations brews?
Its important work you know! Beers of the world.
Have a good journey Hans.

PS will you stop over in the land of OZ?

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