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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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I'm going for an all BHD page....


Further clarification on the gleaming white 'barrier' laying along the entire US rim of the Gulf.

The image looks like some one has used a 'caulking gun' to lay a blobby line of silicone along the rim from DWH right down to Key West end.

Not living. Made and layed by men. Not necessarily general Human types.

It is a barrier.

The french took a piece of it. The US Govt' didnt like that.
The USNavy has a different view.



Korea is a diversion. So many air and army bases in the region. Why not fly troops there? Why not fly planes there, ready for a stouch? No, lets send lots of sitting duck targets there. Navies from around the world are turning up for security and games reasons, so a couple of subs turning up is all part of the mix right.

The diversion is to get the subs there for part 2.

The barrier is requird to protect US lands. Mexico has its own ancient tech sites to protect it. Have the Mexicans complained about the GoM much? Have the health issues popped up in Mexico? or Belize or Guatemala? Nope. (I realise I can be easily cut down with this statement, but will keep it there anyway) The issues are US side, and flowed on to Haiti, the US testing ground.



Well...

Together with your suggestion of a great white barrier reef caulked into the Gulf rim from Louisiana to Key West, which passes through Woodie's home base, and Woodie's comments on the development of an algae farm in the Gulf, then perhaps the great, white no-can-see reef is the seed tape to grow Chroella.
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Above is a link from Isis. Look at the large map 1/4 down the page. It clearly shows the oil fields associated with Texas, Louisiana, and the very short coast line of Mississippi and Alabama. Florida has never allowed off-shore drilling.

If you following BHD's caulk-line description from DWH to the Keys, the map allows one to easily see that this is the area of the Gulf where there is no oil/gas drilling.

Based upon Woodie's description of an algae reef, then the caulk-line area would be the best location for start-up, away from the oil/gas operations. The location of the DWH is near the eastern-most area of the oil fields. If BP were going to use an oil spill to seed biologics into an artificial reef, then the DWH is the proper location.
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Today is a microcosm of my experience on this thread since day 1. Once the Mag7 came out I wondered what really was the truth about everything. After many days I would consider maybe it was time to bail; then someone, such as Op8 did today, would say "so what are we to believe" and I'd realize I wasn't the only one. In my thinking the one absolute truth is the gom is very sick. All the rest could be fully true or partially true. I'd like to see anybody, who can post facts regarding all the rest of the info on this great thread, do so. Also, I'd like to see the hatchet buried permanently, and continue to hear from all the posters who are concerned about the direction this tragedy is taking. We aren't TPTB but rather are "we the people" and if we can't get along and work together then THEY will indeed have won.
Whew, that made me tired. Bless you all!
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Couldn't have said it better myself...thanks...This tragedy will affect us all before it's done...it is not just going to be the gulf..Think about this...if the FDA and the EPA..and all the rest of the involved letter organizations all agree that the seafood from the gulf is safe to eat...and it's transported all over the world for consumption...then what?? I think I read that no one is even testing it for the corexit contamination. That's not even taking time to mention the ocean currents that have been affected, that will in turn affect weather and jet streams world wide...ALL will be affected, one way or another..

The truth is...that this is a disaster with consequences we have not even given thought to yet...and that is w/o any of us poking or being poked with a sharp stick by anyone else...or w/o any other organization even being involved surreptitiously...some things simply do NOT even matter in the scope of things...The truth is right in front of you all with the information provided on this thread...and it can't be denied...The gulf disaster is a disaster, an ongoing disaster, for we, the inhabitants, as well as mother earth herself...

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I have a theory about the GOM area, but folks would just think I'm in left field. Maybe I am. lol

Thought you were talking about something else, it's early and I haven't had enough coffee to break through the cob webs of sleep yet. lol

edit again to ask if anyone else has noticed an off the mark, or matrix glitch since Friday evening? Maybe I'm sensitive to these, it is electrical in nature or at least it seems that way to me. I feel it physically too. Something is going on with the unseen forces. A shift of some sort.
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Isis, very interested in reading your GOM theory.
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I have a theory about the GOM area, but folks would just think I'm in left field. Maybe I am. lol

Thought you were talking about something else, it's early and I haven't had enough coffee to break through the cob webs of sleep yet. lol

edit again to ask if anyone else has noticed an off the mark, or matrix glitch since Friday evening? Maybe I'm sensitive to these, it is electrical in nature or at least it seems that way to me. I feel it physically too. Something is going on with the unseen forces. A shift of some sort.



Isis, very interested in reading your GOM theory.
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Can we join together and get a quantity discount?
Seriously, I'm interested too.

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Where are the birds ? Mentioned this in spring, watched the numbers slowly deminish. Now its fall in South West Florida, and there is hardly any of the common flocks of birds this time of year as before, much more so noticed as you make your way inland away from the gulf coast. Even the buzzards are fewer, still some here. Through the summer there had been little to almost none of the ussual fire ant population, not that they were missed, but very strange indeed.

Its the sight of no birds that get the wheels turning. This part of Florida is swamped with them normally, and in addition to migrate birds. What's trully missed are the tropical types of birds you'd see often, not even one. Then there's the noisey mockingbirds that would be in abundance, not a peep at all. Where did they all go ?



Rachel Carson's 'Silent Spring'



The Canadian geese did not mirgrate southward over the Carolina Mountains this year, as they always have in years before.

The geese and ducks fly low over the mountains and squawk a lot, circling and landing on the many small mountain lakes. None flew over this year.
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Hmmmm. Sounds like Rupert Sheldrake's Morphogenic Field Theory at work.
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This doesn't say much, but provides a list of features in the GOM.

[link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov]



I didn't see any caves or tunnels listed ;}
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How about that. hmmm

I haven't check other areas but perhaps it is not a practice to publish them, unless there is some notoriety or historical significance connected. I would imagine.

While zooming around on GE aka ge aka giggle earth etc..., I have noted oil about the openings of many, I repeat MANY such places, whether drilled or dumped, the oil makes somewhat of an effective screen from satellite eyes.
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I have a theory about the GOM area, but folks would just think I'm in left field. Maybe I am. lol

Thought you were talking about something else, it's early and I haven't had enough coffee to break through the cob webs of sleep yet. lol

edit again to ask if anyone else has noticed an off the mark, or matrix glitch since Friday evening? Maybe I'm sensitive to these, it is electrical in nature or at least it seems that way to me. I feel it physically too. Something is going on with the unseen forces. A shift of some sort.



Isis, very interested in reading your GOM theory.


Can we join together and get a quantity discount?
Seriously, I'm interested too.
 Quoting: Hans The Magnificent


I hear ya, cut me some slack please, downloading pics is a royal pain and takes forrrrrreeeeeevvvvveeeeerrrr.
Theory is coming your way soon. I've been putting some pieces and links together. Hang in there. Would make good short story for hump (Wednesday) if photobucket doesn't get it's act together and stop freezing up during loading. Maybe it's the dial-up that times out during loading time.

I'll stay on it. whip

Truly though, sorry for the delay.
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I'm going for an all BHD page....


Further clarification on the gleaming white 'barrier' laying along the entire US rim of the Gulf.

The image looks like some one has used a 'caulking gun' to lay a blobby line of silicone along the rim from DWH right down to Key West end.

Not living. Made and layed by men. Not necessarily general Human types.

It is a barrier.

The french took a piece of it. The US Govt' didnt like that.
The USNavy has a different view.



Korea is a diversion. So many air and army bases in the region. Why not fly troops there? Why not fly planes there, ready for a stouch? No, lets send lots of sitting duck targets there. Navies from around the world are turning up for security and games reasons, so a couple of subs turning up is all part of the mix right.

The diversion is to get the subs there for part 2.

The barrier is requird to protect US lands. Mexico has its own ancient tech sites to protect it. Have the Mexicans complained about the GoM much? Have the health issues popped up in Mexico? or Belize or Guatemala? Nope. (I realise I can be easily cut down with this statement, but will keep it there anyway) The issues are US side, and flowed on to Haiti, the US testing ground.



Well...

Together with your suggestion of a great white barrier reef caulked into the Gulf rim from Louisiana to Key West, which passes through Woodie's home base, and Woodie's comments on the development of an algae farm in the Gulf, then perhaps the great, white no-can-see reef is the seed tape to grow Chroella.
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I wish I could elaborate on the squiggly line. It seems more defensive than a platform for growing stuff.

Nice tie in with the drilling states and sites from Isis' post.

Love the way peeps join dots that are staring you in the face, but cant see!

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I have a theory about the GOM area, but folks would just think I'm in left field. Maybe I am. lol

Thought you were talking about something else, it's early and I haven't had enough coffee to break through the cob webs of sleep yet. lol

edit again to ask if anyone else has noticed an off the mark, or matrix glitch since Friday evening? Maybe I'm sensitive to these, it is electrical in nature or at least it seems that way to me. I feel it physically too. Something is going on with the unseen forces. A shift of some sort.



Isis, very interested in reading your GOM theory.


Can we join together and get a quantity discount?
Seriously, I'm interested too.


I hear ya, cut me some slack please, downloading pics is a royal pain and takes forrrrrreeeeeevvvvveeeeerrrr.
Theory is coming your way soon. I've been putting some pieces and links together. Hang in there. Would make good short story for hump (Wednesday) if photobucket doesn't get it's act together and stop freezing up during loading. Maybe it's the dial-up that times out during loading time.

I'll stay on it. whip

Truly though, sorry for the delay.
 Quoting: Isis7

Don't fret, Isis, we promise to be patient. Dial-up is maddening, I know.
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Antarctic salt for sale,rich in trace minerals,I am going to purchase 2 or 3 bottles.....for the pantry.........
[link to www.gatheringplacetrading.com]
Another interesting article regarding food at the British outpost!
[link to www.antarctica.ac.uk]
If I find why it is necessary to carry in large amounts of salt I will edit this post!It seems as if they already have an elegant sufficiency after desalinization......



Hmmmmzzzz ...
somehow that "for sale" makes me suspicious !!!
How do we know it is not "flavoured" (infected or contaminated) ????

The arctic waters contain a lot of bacteria and lifeforms that are still to much unknown ...

It really looks and sounds great, but my inner allamrbells are ringing scratching

I would want my salt to come from other places COL ...
Just a feeling my dear.



Childo, I hope you will either dowse the sale for safe consumption, or do a muscle test before consuming.











My goodness why would you all be concerned about a little sea salt Antarctic or non Antarctic?!?!?!Salt is a natural antibiotic and antiseptic and the minerals in the sea are vital for our bodies proper functioningAny
bacterium would rupture and die in a concentrated salt such as this.The danger of going outside for a walk in the barium and aluminium laced air
would certainly BY FAR outweigh any percieved danger from a pinch of
sea salt which is much much healthier than it's table salt cousin.Heavens above don't be frightened of sea salt.Synthia and her relatives would not
last a nanosecond if that when caught in a bottle of sea salt!I appreciate the concern but think I will live!
[link to curezone.com]

5a 5a

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G'night MZ K

>Still unclear about India ..
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India is a nuclear power, right?

Answered my own question...
[link to www.cdi.org]
India has approx 1000 nuclear warheads. While that is not much compared to 10000+ USA has, I would not want them all dumped on my front lawn.


Hi Hans :)

But does that indicate that they are part of the Odessa or not ?
Tnx for the info girl_happy_brown
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Nothing official like a pronouncement from parliament, but news reports indicate India is against China making India pro-Odessa if not actually signing up.
My estimation is that India is, or soon will be part of ODESSA.
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Antarctic salt for sale,rich in trace minerals,I am going to purchase 2 or 3 bottles.....for the pantry.........
[link to www.gatheringplacetrading.com]
Another interesting article regarding food at the British outpost!
[link to www.antarctica.ac.uk]
If I find why it is necessary to carry in large amounts of salt I will edit this post!It seems as if they already have an elegant sufficiency after desalinization......



Hmmmmzzzz ...
somehow that "for sale" makes me suspicious !!!
How do we know it is not "flavoured" (infected or contaminated) ????

The arctic waters contain a lot of bacteria and lifeforms that are still to much unknown ...

It really looks and sounds great, but my inner allamrbells are ringing scratching

I would want my salt to come from other places COL ...
Just a feeling my dear.


+ 10000
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-100000. And then some 5a
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Aye aye as one old salt to another. Celtic grey is my favorite, esp Flower of the Ocean, a specialty salt is sublime.

'Table' salt tastes caustic and foul to me now that I've renounced it.

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The oil continues to roll in!More shoreline affected now than in the Summer!
[link to i.gadling.com]


Hi COL,
Nice to know you are a woman too !!!
*blush* I always had the impression you being a guy ... sorry ...lol...

Your link is not working ...
was there a reason given why the tarrballs roll in more now then before ?
 Quoting: Krispy71

When I last looked Krispy and my Hubby can attest to it there was no hint of a Y chromosome to be seen!This link BTW worked perfectly for me just now so perhaps you should try again.The majority of the spilled oil remains in the Gulf lurking offshore ready to move in with the tides and storms.There IS a reason that the hurricanes have been steered well clear of the states of Florida Alabama Mississippi and Louisiana this Summer.It is SOO transparent!WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE FOOLING?
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Aye aye as one old salt to another. Celtic grey is my favorite, esp Flower of the Ocean, a specialty salt is sublime.

'Table' salt tastes caustic and foul to me now that I've renounced it.

captain
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AMEN to that!
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Meanwhile life STRUGGLES ON in The Gulf of Mexico where the oil is becoming EVEN MORE TOXIC as it weathers......
[link to oilspillaction.com]
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My girl friend has a D.E.D link on her laptop from the French Embassy. (She works at the embassy)

Crazy traffic on DED
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Antarctic salt for sale,rich in trace minerals,I am going to purchase 2 or 3 bottles.....for the pantry.........
[link to www.gatheringplacetrading.com]
Another interesting article regarding food at the British outpost!
[link to www.antarctica.ac.uk]
If I find why it is necessary to carry in large amounts of salt I will edit this post!It seems as if they already have an elegant sufficiency after desalinization......



Hmmmmzzzz ...
somehow that "for sale" makes me suspicious !!!
How do we know it is not "flavoured" (infected or contaminated) ????

The arctic waters contain a lot of bacteria and lifeforms that are still to much unknown ...

It really looks and sounds great, but my inner allamrbells are ringing scratching

I would want my salt to come from other places COL ...
Just a feeling my dear.



Childo, I hope you will either dowse the sale for safe consumption, or do a muscle test before consuming.











My goodness why would you all be concerned about a little sea salt Antarctic or non Antarctic?!?!?!Salt is a natural antibiotic and antiseptic and the minerals in the sea are vital for our bodies proper functioningAny
bacterium would rupture and die in a concentrated salt such as this.The danger of going outside for a walk in the barium and aluminium laced air
would certainly BY FAR outweigh any percieved danger from a pinch of
sea salt which is much much healthier than it's table salt cousin.Heavens above don't be frightened of sea salt.Synthia and her relatives would not
last a nanosecond if that when caught in a bottle of sea salt!I appreciate the concern but think I will live!
[link to curezone.com]

5a 5a
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goodnews

My fav is that dirty Hunza salt with the faint sulfur taste - nasty looking, and loaded with trace minerals.
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A British General and a garrison of solders on horseback investigated the Hunza River Valley in the 1870s. Hunza was a tiny kingdom located in a remote valley 100 miles (160 km) long and only one mile (1.6 km) wide, situated at an elevation of 8,500 feet (2590 m), and completely enclosed by mountain peaks. These peaks soar to a height of 25,550 feet (7788 m) and belong to the Karakoram Range, broadly known in the West as the Himalayas. Hunza is now part of Pakistan in the northern section bordering on Afghanistan, Russia, China, Kashmir, and India. The Kilik Pass leads to Russia and the Mintaka Pass to China.

The pass to reach Hunza from Gilgit, Pakistan, was 13,700 feet (4176 m) high, a difficult and treacherous trail. Upon entering the valley, the British found the steep, rocky sides of the valley lined with terraced garden plots, fruit trees, and animals being raised for meat and milk.

The gardens were watered with mineral-rich glacier water carried by an aqueduct system running a distance of 50 miles (80 km) from the Ultar Glacier on the 25,550 foot (7788 m) high Mount Rakaposhi. The wooden aqueduct trough was hung from the sheer cliffs by steel nails hammered into the rock walls. Silt from the river below was carried up the side of the valley to form and replenish the terraced gardens. The average annual precipitation in Hunza is less than two inches.

Ultar Peak rising above Baltit, the capital of Hunza, is spectacular. The Old Palace is on the hill above the village. Click the picture to see an enlargement.

The difficult trail into Hunza kept the people isolated. As late as 1950, most of the children of Hunza had never seen a wheel or a Jeep even though airplanes were landing at the airport in Gilgit, Pakistan, only 70 miles (112 km) away. John Clark reported in his book, Hunza - Lost Kingdom of the Himalayas, that he could see three peaks above 25,000 feet and eleven glaciers all at once from Shishpar Glacier Nullah (canyon) overlooking the Hunza valley. See page 92 in John Clark's book listed below.

The Hunzakuts, as they are called, had signed a peace treaty with their neighboring communities about 10 years prior to the arrival of the British. They had been a warrior community preying upon the Chinese trading caravans as they traveled the high mountain passes between Sinkiang and Kashmir. The Hunzakuts profited for a time by their thievery, plunder, and murder, but they were hated by their neighbors. According to Hunzakut folklore, a peace treaty was signed because the Mir's son convinced his father to end their murderous ways.

Burushaski, the language of the Hunzakuts, is much different from other languages of the region and appears to be a mixture of the languages of Ancient Macedonian and the Hellenistic Persian Empire. However, the people also learned to speak the written Urdu language of Pakistan and other languages of the region.

The terraced gardens were extensive with up to 50 cascading levels. The people lived in communities below. It was a considerable distance to walk to work in the fields. They had no roads or wheeled carts. All the grain and other produce was transported to the homes on the backs of men and animals. Click the picture to see an enlargement.

Everything in Hunza valley was always in short supply except crumbling rocks. Fuel for heating and cooking was severely limited, and fodder for feeding the animals was precious. Animal dung was used for garden fertilizer rather than fuel for fires as was done elsewhere.  Supplies from outside of the valley were limited by the difficulty in bring goods over the high mountain pass. Highly prized goods brought in from the outside included guns, knifes, tools, metal pots, stoves, lamps, cotton cloth, silk cloth, thread, needles, matches, mirrors, glassware, and some construction metals such as bolts, rods, sheet, and plate. As late as 1951, these items had to be carried on the backs of men or animals. In past centuries traditional dress and bedding were made from sheepskins and other animal hides.

The original valley was mostly bare rock with a very limited amount of indigenous plant life. The sudden appearance of the vegetation in contrast to the surrounding barren rock earned the valley the description of being Shangri-La or the Garden of Eden. Given the hard work required to tend the gardens and animals, the description of Garden of Eden certainly did not apply to the Hunza River Valley.

Mir Muhammed Ghazan Khan I ruled from 1864 to 1886. Folklore stories say he sent his brother a gift of a cloak impregnated with smallpox and murdered his uncle and other brothers, but the facts are rather unknown. He was murdered in 1886 by Safdar Ali Khan who became the new ruler of Hunza. Mir Safdar Ali Khan is shown in the picture at the left. Click the picture to see an enlargement. In 1891 an expedition of 5,000 men lead by British Colonel Algernon Durand was attacked by the Hunzakut leader, Mir Safdar Ali Khan. The Mir fled to China and was replaced by his half-brother, Muhammed Nazim Klan. Mir Nazim Klan died in 1938 of mysterious causes, and it is highly suspect that his son, Muhammed Ghazan Khan II, was involved in his death. He died in 1946 and was replaced by his son, Muhammed Jamal Khan. Mir Muhammed Jamal Khan was deposed in 1974 by Pakistan although he maintained his property in Hunza. He died in Gilgit, Pakistan, in 1976 were he also had a residence. Mir Muhammed Jamal Khan could also speak perfect English because he had been educated by the British as a boy. His descendents maintain their royal titles but have no ruling authority in Hunza.
Ancestry of Hunza Rulers Since the 16th Century.



The Original Hunza People.

The story of Hunza is thought to have begun with Alexander III or Alexander the Great (July 356 BC to June 10, 323 BC), son of King Philip of Macedon (Ancient Macedonia west of Greece). Alexander was a brilliant warrior, more capable than his father. After his father's murder, Alexander set out toward the east to conquer neighboring kingdoms. He conquered Greece in short fashion and continued toward Persia where he eventually burned the capital and the national library in a great defeat of the Persians.

Three generals in Alexander's army are said to have married Persian women. The generals betrayed Alexander by giving the Persians his plans. When Alexander heard of the betrayal he sought to take revenge, but the generals, wives, and a band of many soldiers fled. The valley of Hunza is thought to have been their valley of refuge because of its remote and secure location.

It is likely that the Hunza valley was already sparsely inhabited when the Macedon generals arrived. Certainly these tough fighting warriors made quick work of slaughtering the ancient inhabitants of Hunza. Though this is purely speculation, it is highly probable. The desolate rocky valley could not have supported the Macedonians unless some farms had been slowly built by others over the preceding centuries.

Hunza became an independent kingdom with a monarchy. The King used the title of Mir. The British disrupted the ruling organization of the Hunza people.

"The Mir, or ruler, of Hunza believed his tiny kingdom to be the equal of China, and likened himself to Alexander the Great from whom he claimed descent. When the British turned up in the 1870s, he took them for petitioners seeking to make Queen Victoria his vassal. Not wishing to waste time arguing, the colonial officials had him deposed, replacing him with an amenable brother whom the Mir had carelessly neglected to murder on his way to the throne."
A Kind of Kingdom in Paradise.

The British reported a population of about 8,000 people who were in good health and lived long lives, although their ages could not be verified since the Hunza people had no written records. The people were relatively healthy, especially when compared to the citizens in England where obesity, diabetes, cancer, and heart disease ravaged the British due of their high carbohydrate diet of grains, bread, sugar, honey, fruit and potatoes. The Hunza people were slender, healthy, and athletic compared to relatives of the British solders at home in England who were fat and sickly.

The Hunza tribesmen are shown in the picture. Click the picture to see an enlargement.

The Hunzakuts had lighter skin than the neighboring tribes and appeared to be of Caucasian origin. In 1950, John Clark reported seeing children with black, brown, and blond hair and an occasional redhead. They probably chose the Hunza River Valley because of its sheer isolation, but the men took wives from neighboring peoples. Hunza women were said to have been beautiful. This is highly probable since the Persian women taken as captives were likely the best looking. See page 69 in John Clark's book.

The Hunza people were land poor since there was never enough space to provide plenty. Shortage was always present, and people lived in fear of the springtime starvation when food ran desperately low.

Hunza had no soil as such. The glacial silt that formed the terraced gardens was simply ground rock. All of the animal manure was spread on the gardens to fertilize the crops and trees. The people defecated directly on the garden, and the soil was deficient in lime and phosphates, causing the trees and plants to suffer. The garden yield was considerably less than in the United States and elsewhere where good soil is available. The nitrate fertilizer from animal and human excrement was quickly flushed from the silt by the weekly flooding with glacial water.

The Hunzakuts called this "the land of just enough." The truth is Hunza was always a land of never enough, and everything was in short supply including the usable land which was limited to five acres (20,000 sq. m) per family. Animals were limited because of the lack of grazing pastures in the lower valley. The goats, sheep, and Yaks were moved to the higher mountains in summer in search of the sparse vegetation. The herdsmen had an excess of milk while the people in the valley suffered a shortage. This is the reason summer visitors to Hunza see a people eating a low-fat, near-vegetarian diet. The winter diet was vastly different.

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Did anyone else from down under just watch that UFO doco on SBS.. it had a guy who found a hair under his forskin (post abduction) and when he got it DNA tested they found it was from a rare race linked to the mongoloids.. sorry if this is irrelevant.. I only Blurk here and there.



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Cheers man, i was worried bout Hans solo giving me the bs flag, and thanks to AC poster from NZ who provided a linky.. no more stinky.. how you dem apples hans lol
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BHD looks like you are culturing some dangerous stuff in that Petri dish!Are you going to add a few drops of Synthia to the brew?Should we run for cover ?
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Cheers man, i was worried bout Hans solo giving me the bs flag, and thanks to AC poster from NZ who provided a linky.. no more stinky.. how you dem apples hans lol
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I posted this story many many many pages back when we were looking into DNA/blood types/China. There's a whole book written on it:
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