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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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6/29/2010 pag 97
6:21 AM good day, a few hours ago GCP captain says proximity alert activated on b3 of cargo

(A proximity alert system including a pair of portable electronic, coded transmitter/receiver units designed to operate in a specific signal band. Each unit transmits a coded signal that is picked up by the other unit. The strength of the received coded signal controls the rate of an audible beeper. The rate of the beeper indicates the approximate distance between companion units. A direction-finder antenna is used to indicate the direction of the received coded signal.)

6:24 AM captain thinks it was remotely activated because special engineer killed local transmitter after condition romeo page 98

7:58 AM 8 new DED channels suddenly came on at the same time, two are from aircraft, problems somewhere. its the first time I see aircraft using DED channel

8:01 AM now 9, they talking about echo warnings

8:13 AM many displacements at seafloor (translation problem)

8:57 AM one aircraft reporting possible combustion foam on surface

9:06 AM Mistral instruct immediate buoy drop

9:41 AM o many things reported, captain of aircraft report buoy failure, all data loss, no measurements taken, captain says buoy just popped within seconds of hitting foam, melted and sunk, second buoy did the same
Mistral issued alert to all vicinity traffic to avoid column
Em captain says pipes forming on seabed and leading from rim
GCP captain stil has proximity alert on cargo, waiting for instructions
there are other DED channel alerts also but they not from the gulf of mexico

11:35 AM GCP captain reports b3 cargo now gone live, ask for urgent priority instructions

11:49 AM Mistral to GCP, Halt at perimeter alert, special engineer advisor on vector channel
(I cant get vector channel on DED, it is absolute alert channel)

12:30 PM GCP captain request immediate authorisation to jettison b3 cargo. Mistral says standby
(embassy intercom alert just went on and all rooms will be closed electronically in 15 minutes. I have to leave the signal area. I will post when I have access to my girlfriend again. She and her colleagues are now in lockdown in their offices)


WIKI : Jettison may refer to:
A verb meaning to throw or eject from a ship, aircraft or vehicle; or discard or abandon; see marine debris

So the cargo is asked to be thrown off the ship,
so the "going live" deffenately could mean "activated"



B3. Confidential Proposal Summary: Mobile Robotic ... on the outside surfaces of the hull of container cargo ...


A rover ?

B3 = ROV Mine hunter German manufacture (pag 103)
Pinguin B3 ROV. Frankenthal Class (Type 332) Minehunter, Germany [link to www.naval-technology.com]

a B3 missile , a nuclear mine. One that doesn't exist by treaty
[link to www.fas.org]

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Watcher, rhetorical question.....are you one of our retired Navy guys in the Ozarks?

(raises eyebrows and grins)

Lol, sorry never been in the service, just an info guy. I have the knack for "finding" info.


I watched the 12 part John Moore vids you linked last night where he claimed, in support of his data, that a large number of retired Navy had moved to the Ozarks due to safe elevation.

350 miles due north.... Just short of. ;)

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Lol, good catch. I figure if he's right, the Ozarks will have a nice ocean view. By the way, that fuzzy map, is a Naval map. That series is what first started me prepping.
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It has happened before with a carbon dioxide bubble

[link to science.howstuffworks.com]

Simmons also says that the methane gas bubble is 120 miles wide, 400/500ft high, and is sitting at a depth of 4500ft below the surface of the water.


I'm not a chemist or a physicist, and it has been decades since university courses, but that ^^ doesn't even seem scientifically possible to me.

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For reference: Map of lost nukes

[link to www.genecurtis.com]

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Note: Nothing near the Gulf of Mexico. No Polaris missiles involved.
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The pressure and the temperature is what is causing the methane to freeze on the LMRD. Changing states to solid.
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i see "lock down",
finally this bs thread will come to a end,
2 days left.
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Thunder Horse built in South Korea houses 229, dry-towed on a 62-day trip to GOM, set sail from SK on 23 July 2004
[link to www.bp.com]

BP's Thunder Horse rig after Hurricane Dennis ('05)
[link to www.google.com]

More troubles delay startup of Thunder Horse ('07)
[link to www.redorbit.com]

BP Update on TH April 2009
"Offshore Engineer magazine reports that Thunder Horse is up and running... fast! The rig reached first oil in June 2008 and in April reached a production level of 310,000 boe/d (barrels per day) from just seven subsea wells, making the field the world's largest producer. Moored in 1900meters of water the oil gushes out at 1200 bar 135 degrees Celsius."
[link to www.dieselduck.ca]
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Still on "lock-down" eh?

As smooth as the OP is, I am beginning to wonder.
Never the less, I am content to see this through in this very interesting week thus far.


I'll buy you a drink, to wait this out,lol.
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That'd be swell!!
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135 degrees Celsius=275 F. hot enough to boil water 212 F.?
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Still on "lock-down" eh?

As smooth as the OP is, I am beginning to wonder.
Never the less, I am content to see this through in this very interesting week thus far.


I'll buy you a drink, to wait this out,lol.

That'd be swell!!
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Here ya go, bottoms up, skoal! Anyone else?
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You know what no one is mentioning, out of all the deep wells Russia drilled, only one didn't have to be closed off due to pressure. And, they made sure they only drilled deep on land due to this.
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Where's that OP?
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For reference: Map of lost nukes

[link to www.genecurtis.com]

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Note: Nothing near the Gulf of Mexico. No Polaris missiles involved.
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does a map of sunken nuke subs exist, maybe the warhead has such an origin
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Well I'm hopping off for a bit, check back laters.
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Methane crystals in (in status) in the ocean:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I conducted a bit of methane hydrate research the first day of the rig explosion after reading the fishermen's eyewitness account. Some of what I found...let's start with this one:


Methane Hydrates: A Primer - and implications...

Methane hydrates represent an enormous untapped energy resource. Estimates of the total volume of methane gas locked in hydrate deposits worldwide range widely from about 105 trillion standard cubic feet (TCF) to 2.7 x 10^8 TCF (i.e., 2.8 x 10^15 to 7.6 x 10^18 cubic meters). Even at the lower end of this range, the energy contained in the methane hydrate resource exceeds that of all known coal, oil, and natural gas reserves. If practicable recovery techniques can be developed, then methane hydrates may play a major role in meeting the world's future energy needs.

Hydrates are crystalline solids comprising water molecules linked by hydrogen bonds in a tight polyhedral cage structure. Guest molecules, which can include various hydrocarbons found in natural gas mixtures, reside in the interstices of this lattice. Methane (or other hydrocarbon) molecules are packed closely together in the hydrate lattice. A cubic meter of hydrate yields about 160 cubic meters of methane at standard temperature and pressure and about 0.87 cubic meter of water. This relatively high energy density has prompted studies to investigate hydrates as an alternative means to transport and to store natural gas.

Methane hydrates are found in high-pressure, moderate-temperature regimes in ocean sediments and low-temperature Artic permafrost zones. Methane hydrate is stable in seafloors below about the 450-meter depth in open oceans with an average temperate hydrothermal profile. Significant marine hydrate deposits have been identified worldwide in continental margins. Sediment layers in deep ocean basins also may contain large deposits of methane hydrates, but these areas have not yet been thoroughly explored. The photo shows a surface outcropping of methane hydrates encountered in the Gulf of Mexico.

During the first half of the 20th century, blockage of natural gas pipelines by methane hydrates posed a serious problem for the gas industry. Research was initiated to study hydrate properties and formation and dissociation phenomena, and to develop means to inhibit and remediate hydrate formation in pipelines. After solutions to the pipeline blockage problem had been identified and implemented, interest in methane hydrates waned. Naturally occurring methane hydrates remained largely a curiosity for many decades, with limited practical use.

Beginning in the early 1990s, interest in methane hydrates began to revive. While offering tremendous opportunities as a future energy resource, sedimental marine hydrate deposits also emerged as an immediate and formidable nuisance to offshore oil and gas operations, compromising sea floor stability and imperiling drilling activities. The hydrate problem has become more critical as oil and gas exploration and recovery move into increasingly deeper waters where hydrates abound. From a military perspective, it was recognized that characterizing the geo-acoustic properties of hydrate sediments was important to a number of naval operations, such as surveillance and mine detection. Finally, methane hydrates may exercise a profound effect on the global climate if the carbon sequestered in these solids is released into the environment by commercial exploitation of the fuel or through destabilization and outgassing induced by ocean warming.

[link to www.hnei.hawaii.edu]

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A couple notes of impact here:

1. GOM is the second largest field(s)/location to date of hydrates. Second only to that found in the perma frost.

2. There is now a race for hydrate energy. Were they (BP) looking for this? Was is an unintended "find"? Did we pop the hydrate trap? How large is this hydrate shelf?


3. Massive release of hydrates natural or otherwise is scientifically linked to quick shift in climate change (past ice ages from core samples)


More findings to follow if you guys are interested.....


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stupthrd
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Hey, Shill.

Scram!
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WE ARE FUCKED
I FOUND WHAT B3 IS

READ'EM AND WEAP

"During the 1962-1964 period strategic analysts postulated the Soviet defense would have an improved discrimination (radar) capability and a greater defense in depth with "SPRINT" type interceptors by the post-1967 period. Various advanced POLARIS preliminary design concepts were studied by LMSC to offset the perceived Soviet threat. In October 1962, the POLARIS A3a was offered. It was a 66 in. diameter missile versus the prior 54 in. missiles. Concepts included a large single warhead, a three-warhead system, and penetration system options compatible with the missile system's desired maximum range.

This was followed by various POLARIS B3 missile concepts. Various reentry system configurations were evaluated (e.g., a single warhead, a cluster of multiple warheads, an aerodynamic maneuvering warhead, a low-altitude terminal dash). These configurations were code-named B3D, B3H, B3E, etc. Finally in July 1963, Lockheed proposed a POLARIS B3D to counter the expected (1969 to 1970) increased defense against ballistic missiles. The POLARIS missile diameter would increase to 74 in. The SSBN launcher's inner tube sized for a 54 in. diameter missile would be removed and non-launchable seals (pads) would be installed directly to the outer tube to accommodate the B3D's 74 in. diameter."

[link to www.fas.org]
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polaris hasn't been in use since the late sixties. In the seventies we were using poseidon C3 missiles. In the eighties they went to trident, which I think is still in operation. I suppose, for the sake of argument, someone may have a polaris B3 warhead.. but I doubt it.

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You maybe right ,but we each must find out for ourselves, anyhows,its one heck of a story if its not true, im on the fence on this one
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Renegade, is the link working to glp video for the Simmons link?

Please post link if you've got one working. Thanks




Question to the ether.

If the information is correct from Simmons about the size of the rim/caldera, what size volcano could we potentially be dealing with?

Thank you to who ever can provide the answer.

Good Q..don't know. He did mention that if it rises to the surface, we would eventually see the largest island formed in the world..in the Gulf. I think (according to Simmons) other catastrophic things are going to happen much before that though, he said the 1st of July we could see the worst case scenario, with the hurricane pushing toxic gases inland.

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Link is working but it says it's still in conversion ??
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You might be thinking of Jack R. Reed. He made the connection between the New Madrid Fault and the Gulf of Mexico.
Link [link to www.aapg.org]


Thanks, Renegade. That's not the map that I saw (have it somewhere), but holy shit the data presented by Reed, if credible even in the least, should be enough for anyone NOT to even think about placing nukes in the GOM!

Thanks for that link.


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Your welcome
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For reference: Map of lost nukes

[link to www.genecurtis.com]

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Note: Nothing near the Gulf of Mexico. No Polaris missiles involved.

does a map of sunken nuke subs exist, maybe the warhead has such an origin
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[link to maps.thefullwiki.org]


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Well people, I have been following this thread from the beginning. I have kept an open mind.

After his last few posts I have come to the conclusion this OP is dangling a doom carrot in front of you all.

I still not know exactly if he is legit or not...but it is looking like he is not. Sorry to say that, but you all need to start considering more seriously about this thread.

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Be that as it may..and for what its worth..but,if what Simmons says is only half right, and I really have no reason to doubt him, we are in a world of deep do-do, even if the OP of this thread is stringing us all along..which seems somewhat unlikely given that what he is reporting strongly lines up with what Simmons is saying.
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Well, OP. Either you are truly on a lock-down or you have just milked your drama a little too dry.
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Red Seal here.........

Still on "lock-down" eh?

As smooth as the OP is, I am beginning to wonder.
Never the less, I am content to see this through in this very interesting week thus far.


I'll buy you a drink, to wait this out,lol.

That'd be swell!!


Here ya go, bottoms up, skoal! Anyone else?
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Well, OP. Either you are truly on a lock-down or you have just milked your drama a little too dry.
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Its after midnight in france, i'm sure he's asleep. Its following the same mode, leave us hanging until for the night and come up with something new the next day......he's good.
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Iv`e Been following this thread since the start... havent a clue what the OP is trying to tell us ... BUT ....

I posted this 10 days ago on GLP, and was just wondering if it could be connected to what the OP is describing !!!!

scared

[link to www.theoildrum.com]

Looks like we have a "Downhole" !!!!!!
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The guy you're thinking of is named John J.R. Moore and the presentation he put out is, available on you tube, is "what the government isn't telling you". Be prepared, it's a shocker.
[link to www.youtube.com]
Ok, good night lol.


Thanks, Watcher. I'm pretty sure Moore isn't the guy, but I'm listening to him (Moore) now. Thanks for the link.

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I'm just now getting caught up from yesterday so I don't know if anyone offered you the name Gordon Michael Scallion yet.
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Well, OP. Either you are truly on a lock-down or you have just milked your drama a little too dry.

Its after midnight in france, i'm sure he's asleep. Its following the same mode, leave us hanging until for the night and come up with something new the next day......he's good.
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Yes, he is.

Now, it could be that he got caught and is under lock and key at this very moment, electrodes attached to his nipples while standing in a bucket of water deep in the bowels of some gummit prision.

Or he could be in front of the computer, drink in hand, thinking of tomorrow's installment.

I don't know what to think anymore!
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The guy you're thinking of is named John J.R. Moore and the presentation he put out is, available on you tube, is "what the government isn't telling you". Be prepared, it's a shocker.
[link to www.youtube.com]
Ok, good night lol.


Thanks, Watcher. I'm pretty sure Moore isn't the guy, but I'm listening to him (Moore) now. Thanks for the link.

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I'm just now getting caught up from yesterday so I don't know if anyone offered you the name Gordon Michael Scallion yet.
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blech...

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