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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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Yes no code. That is something I never could understand. Why if ACO wanted to pass messages to others, use GLP there are much better ways. To me it feels like a big game. A self importance game. Oooooo they are talking code. just my quarters worth (inflation)rken
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Yes no code. That is something I never could understand. Why if ACO wanted to pass messages to others, use GLP there are much better ways. To me it feels like a big game. A self importance game. Oooooo they are talking code. just my quarters worth (inflation)rken
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Krispy

Yes no code. That is something I never could understand. Why if ACO wanted to pass messages to others, use GLP there are much better ways. To me it feels like a big game. A self importance game. Oooooo they are talking code. just my quarters worth (inflation)rken
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I for one am thankful to receive information that might not have otherwise be seen or heard. Whether a game or not, the code relaying, some is just out of my understanding, but the rest has led me to investigate many avenues I would not have known of. So, I also appreciate that this is a very educational way to keep up with things not mentioned or greatly gagged on the major news stations. I also enjoy the shared comradeship of people around the world that partake and share on this thread. I've made lots of friends, and it is interesting to see different view points and opinions concerning what is the cause and effects we all will experience at some point.

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Hi everyone, catch up time.

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The use of code can be good, and in some cases absolutely necessary. Usually in some seemingly non-related forum such as a Hand Crafting forum where one would seem to be talking about building cement birdhouses and the code words would give it a completely different meaning. In a conspiracy forum the information can be put right out in front and few would pay any attention anyway. "Hide in Plain Sight"
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Acolyte has been talking about Astute having possibly been hit by the Chinese reverse EMP weapon a second or third time.
If Astute was rendered immobile by this weapon that removes all electrical activity, how did they keep the reactors cool if there were no working pumps on board? Back-up generators would similarly have been useless the second they came online. My understanding is that nuclear reactors have to have cool water pumped around them constantly, otherwise things get decidedly toasty.
I am not having a go at anyone here, least of all Acolyte, but this has been at the back of my mind, and was wondering if someone could clear this up for me. I may of missed something very obvious, thats already been posted.
Could the weapon of rendered the fuel rods inert as well?
Did the rescue tug get there quickley enough with pumping facilities? Is there a mechanical way of pumping coolant?
Can radioactive emmissions from fuel rods be reduced / stopped?
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They "Pull the rods" to slow the reaction down. It works like a throttle on any engine would work.
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They "Pull the rods" to slow the reaction down. It works like a throttle on any engine would work.
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Ah right, thanks Hans
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Mmmm...what's this all about?

China accused of secretly salvaging sunken British submarine containing 18 lost sailors

HMS Poseidon sank in 130ft of water on June 9, 1931, after a collision with a Chinese merchant steamer 20 miles north of the British naval base at Weihai.

Relatives and survivors had always thought the vessel remained on the sea bed along with the lost men.

But American historian Steven Schwankert claims the Chinese salvaged the vessel without fanfare in the early 1970s to test the skills of their naval special forces and newly formed underwater recovery units.

He has been investigating the fate of the Poseidon since coming across references to its salvage in an obscure Chinese magazine titled "Modern Ships" in 2005.

He says that while the submarine itself almost certainly went for scrap, there is no indication of what happened to the crew who did not survive.

The suggestion that a Royal Navy vessel containing the remains of its crew has been raised by China without the British government being informed has provoked concern in London and among the relatives of the dead.

A Foreign Office spokesman said the ministry was investigating the reports to try to confirm the fate of the vessel.

Captain Andrew Tate, Royal Navy attache to the British Embassy in Beijing, said: "Clearly if the submarine has been raised we would have expected there to have been some discussion with the United Kingdom and the Ministry of Defence and our concern would be over the bodies that still remained in the submarine."

Calls to China's State Council and the National Defence Ministry in Beijing were not returned.

...more here
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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They "Pull the rods" to slow the reaction down. It works like a throttle on any engine would work.
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Ah right, thanks Hans
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Yes they do pull the rods but they still have to have water circulated around them constantly....
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They can stop the reaction with the control rods.
>The control rods are, in a sense, the dial by which the rate of fission is maintained within the core. When the rods are inserted completely into the core, most neutrons released during fission are absorbed, and no chain reaction occurs. As the rods are slowly removed from the core, the rate at which fission occurs increases. At some point, the position of the control rods is such that the 1:1 ratio of produced to used up neutrons is achieved. At that point, the chain reaction goes forward, releasing energy, but under precise control of human operators.

Read more: Nuclear Reactor - Control Rods - Fission, Reaction, Neutrons, Core, Produced, and Chain [link to science.jrank.org]



Yes it is best to have water circulating but there are many safety features built in to nuclear reactors since Chernobyl.

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Espionage Act makes felons of us all.
It also criminalizes all casual discussions of such disclosures by persons not authorized to receive them to other persons not authorized to receive them–in other words, all tweets sending around those countless news stories, all blogging on them, and all dinner party conversations about their contents. Taken at its word, the Espionage Act makes felons of us all...

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The use of code can be good, and in some cases absolutely necessary. Usually in some seemingly non-related forum such as a Hand Crafting forum where one would seem to be talking about building cement birdhouses and the code words would give it a completely different meaning. In a conspiracy forum the information can be put right out in front and few would pay any attention anyway. "Hide in Plain Sight"
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Hans has it right! 'Tis the reason glp is popular for gaming and messaging.

Someone comes on and reads a little, then thinks, "They're all crazy, or a bunch of kids and they live in Mom's basement and have nothing better to do."

There is a lot which cannot be said in plain langugage. A good example is the code words and sign language that teens come up with to communicate with one another without telling the ol' folks what is going on.
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Mmmm...what's this all about?

China accused of secretly salvaging sunken British submarine containing 18 lost sailors

HMS Poseidon sank in 130ft of water on June 9, 1931, after a collision with a Chinese merchant steamer 20 miles north of the British naval base at Weihai.

..........more here
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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My guess what's this all about:

Here is the date of the original story:

"By Julian Ryall in Weihai 6:43PM BST 12 Jun 2009"

The links shows it was recently published again on December 10, 2010.

From early in the thread, indication is that the UK is responsible for the sabotage of the DWH on April 20, 2010.

The underwater "evidence" is reported to have the signature "HMS" on its side.

If, as some want us to believe, the Chinese "did it," then the UK/BP players need a source for "HMS" on a sunk ship.
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I just looked at the Who's Here list. <crickets>
Did I miss a meeting?
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what is wrong with you people
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Please explain your question.
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Acolyte has been talking about Astute having possibly been hit by the Chinese reverse EMP weapon a second or third time.
If Astute was rendered immobile by this weapon that removes all electrical activity, how did they keep the reactors cool if there were no working pumps on board? ...... facilities? Is there a mechanical way of pumping coolant?
Can radioactive emmissions from fuel rods be reduced / stopped?
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Acolyte, Acolyte, Acolyte ...

the infamouse counter-intell covering for the Brits' screwups.

The only thing wrong with the Astute is the British. But ya know, they need a way to explain a $1.2 billion screwup when the commoners are freezing and tuition rates have been tripled.

"The circumstances surrounding the [grounding] incident have been investigated and the service inquiry has reported and is being considered. It is too early to discuss its outcome.

‘HMS Astute has been completing sea trials and has returned to port to have a minor defect corrected.’ "


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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[link to www.youtube.com] had a blip so here it is if this has been posted sorry.. this is a good video for an amateur like myself to actually be able to follow some of you guys it's a nano video.

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World's smallest battery uses a single nanowire, plant-eating virus could improve Li-ion cells tenfold

[link to www.engadget.com]

When it comes to building better batteries, building electrodes with greater surface area is key, and scientists are looking to exotic methods to attract the tiny particles they need. We've already seen graphene and carbon nanotubes soak up those electrons, but the University of Maryland has another idea -- they're using the Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV) to generate usable patterns of nanorods on the surface of existing metal electrodes. By simply modifying the germ and letting it do its thing, then coating the surface with a conductive film, they're generating ten times the energy capacity of a standard lithium-ion battery while simultaneously rendering the nasty vegetarian bug inert.

Meanwhile, the Center for Integrated Nanotechnologies (CINT) at Sandia Labs was more curious how these tiny charges actually work without confusing the forest for the trees, so to speak, so a team of scientists set about constructing the world's smallest battery. Using a single tin dioxide nanowire as anode, a chunk of lithium cobalt dioxide as cathode, and piping some liquid electrolyte in between, they took a microscopic video of the charging process. See it in all its grey, goopy glory right after the break.


Carbon nanotubes run into magical polymer, become 'tougher than Kevlar'

[link to www.engadget.com]

By Darren Murph posted Dec 9th 2010 12:57AM

Much like graphene, carbon nanotubes seem to be hitting on all cylinders in the lab. Of course, we can count on one hand finger how many instances we've seen them making a difference in "the real world," but we aren't giving up hope just yet. Researchers from a cadre of universities have come together to solve one of the most nagging issues when dealing with carbon nanotubes -- in prior studies, the bundling of these tubes resulted in a marked decrease in strength, which in turn led to a profuse outpouring of tears. But thanks to a new approach, which mixes in a nondescript polymer, they've managed to conjure up a "a high performance fiber that is remarkably tough, strong, and resistant to failure." More specifically, the resulting material is said to be "tougher than Kevlar, meaning it has a higher ability to absorb energy without breaking." Notably, this material isn't stronger than Kevlar, as it's resistance to failure isn't quite up to snuff, but you can bet the gurus working on this won't stop until it is. And then, friends, we will have officially arrived in The Future.
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Would love to see this technology move into the guitar string industry. Not so much the so called nano wrap they put on some.

Rock!
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Carbon nanotubes run into magical polymer, become 'tougher than Kevlar'

[link to www.engadget.com]

By Darren Murph posted Dec 9th 2010 12:57AM

Much like graphene, carbon nanotubes seem to be hitting on all cylinders in the lab. Of course, we can count on one hand finger how many instances we've seen them making a difference in "the real world," but we aren't giving up hope just yet. Researchers from a cadre of universities have come together to solve one of the most nagging issues when dealing with carbon nanotubes -- in prior studies, the bundling of these tubes resulted in a marked decrease in strength, which in turn led to a profuse outpouring of tears. But thanks to a new approach, which mixes in a nondescript polymer, they've managed to conjure up a "a high performance fiber that is remarkably tough, strong, and resistant to failure." More specifically, the resulting material is said to be "tougher than Kevlar, meaning it has a higher ability to absorb energy without breaking." Notably, this material isn't stronger than Kevlar, as it's resistance to failure isn't quite up to snuff, but you can bet the gurus working on this won't stop until it is. And then, friends, we will have officially arrived in The Future.
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Maybe some of this stuff can be used to replace the Kevlar roof on the Minnesota Vikings' Metrodome.
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Carbon nanotubes run into magical polymer, become 'tougher than Kevlar'

[link to www.engadget.com]

By Darren Murph posted Dec 9th 2010 12:57AM

Much like graphene, carbon nanotubes seem to be hitting on all cylinders in the lab. Of course, we can count on one hand finger how many instances we've seen them making a difference in "the real world," but we aren't giving up hope just yet. Researchers from a cadre of universities have come together to solve one of the most nagging issues when dealing with carbon nanotubes -- in prior studies, the bundling of these tubes resulted in a marked decrease in strength, which in turn led to a profuse outpouring of tears. But thanks to a new approach, which mixes in a nondescript polymer, they've managed to conjure up a "a high performance fiber that is remarkably tough, strong, and resistant to failure." More specifically, the resulting material is said to be "tougher than Kevlar, meaning it has a higher ability to absorb energy without breaking." Notably, this material isn't stronger than Kevlar, as it's resistance to failure isn't quite up to snuff, but you can bet the gurus working on this won't stop until it is. And then, friends, we will have officially arrived in The Future.



Maybe some of this stuff can be used to replace the Kevlar roof on the Minnesota Vikings' Metrodome.
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and clutches
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[link to www.youtube.com] had a blip so here it is if this has been posted sorry.. this is a good video for an amateur like myself to actually be able to follow some of you guys it's a nano video.
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Cool vid!

I want one of the water filters shown at 8 on the video. Supposed to clean the tinest particles from dirty water. If so, then we can get water to drink that's been cleaned from BP's Corexit gloop and Venter's nano-Synthia.
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There has been discussion on the thread bouncing around an idea that the US military may be divided into two factions, and including the possibility of a 'coup' within the US military.

Below is a quote giving us the idea that there could be 'factions' within the Vatican. If so, might explain a lot of things about the seemingly inconsistentcy of groups in association with respect to the problem in the GOM and how to control the bio-technology which has been let loose.

"...my contact revealed to me that, inside the Vatican, there were two factions struggle over possession and control of this information, which was classified far beyond "Top Secret." "

[link to www.ufodigest.com]
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About the possibility of two factions in the Vatican, the following from a link provided by Acoylte gives support for an explanation.

The indication is we have a Vatican where control of a sizable part of the Catholic church is being attempted by the Chinese government.

[link to www.boston.com]

"China to choose Catholic heads; Vatican ties tense
December 6, 2010

BEIJING—China's bishops opened a meeting Tuesday to choose leaders of the government-backed Catholic church amid tensions with the Vatican after it denounced the recent ordination of a bishop who did not have the pope's approval.

The meeting to elect new heads of the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association and the Council of Chinese Bishops will be another source of friction because the Vatican disapproves of such assemblies, saying both organizations run counter to Catholic doctrine.

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Communist China forced its Roman Catholics to cut ties with the Vatican in 1951, and worship is allowed only in state-backed churches, although millions of Chinese belong to unofficial congregations loyal to Rome."
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They "Pull the rods" to slow the reaction down. It works like a throttle on any engine would work.
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Ah right, thanks Hans


Yes they do pull the rods but they still have to have water circulated around them constantly....
 Quoting: Just a Lurker 1114170


Maybe a gasoline or diesel backup pump...

Just a guess...

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Subs generally have backups for everything, then backups for the backups. I imagine they are like aircraft with multiple redundant systems for everything.
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Wow, they seem to finally have destroyed the magic of this thread, thanks Psycholyte and her minions.....

so sad for all the lurkers
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Wow, they seem to finally have destroyed the magic of this thread, thanks Psycholyte and her minions.....

so sad for all the lurkers
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Don't give up AC. Not dead yet. I am researching as we speak. trouble is, everything I find is from a banned news organization.
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Rense & Dr. Soto - Ongoing Gulf Health Catastrophe

Very interesting video. I couldn't find it if it has been posted before.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Ukraine to open Chernobyl area to tourists in 2011

KIEV, Ukraine – Want a better understanding of the world's worst nuclear disaster? Come tour the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Beginning next year, Ukraine plans to open up the sealed zone around the Chernobyl reactor to visitors who wish to learn more about the tragedy that occurred nearly a quarter of a century ago, the Emergency Situations Ministry said Monday...
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It seems yesterday's disasters become today's Tourist Attraction.
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Rense & Dr. Soto - Ongoing Gulf Health Catastrophe

Very interesting video. I couldn't find it if it has been posted before.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Good find hans. Just the tip of the ice berg I'm afraid. Exon valdeaz workers are all almost dead. How much exposer is to much. Are the residents of the gulf the walking dead. If your living their leave and do some detoxing. rken

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