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@ Nexus... I appreciate your feelings on this but if you read the full article it treats him well. "Awesome, eccentric genius" In fact, reading the story of Nicola Tesla when I was about 11 was one of the factors that led to me deciding to become an Engineer. He was considered a Nutjob by contemporary Scientists but much of his work has proved itself. I am writing this under flourescent lights for example.
 Quoting: Hans The Magnificent



I understand Hans - its just that of all the amazing good things out there about Tesla, you picked a bit that states he was totally insane etc.

As you well know, he was not insane, nor a nut-job - that was a carefully managed smear campaign started in the 1940s.

I have been battling this perception held by 'mainstream science media' for decades, so please forgive my frustation to see it reiterated here in a context that reinforces that perception.

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Point well made Nexus. I always thought of him as a misunderstood genius. Thinking of some of his stories made it easier for me when I would make a presentation on something that was a little ahead of its time. German Engineering is conservative.
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FAKE NET NEUTRALITY PROPOSAL TO GET RUBBER-STAMPED TODAY
By: David Dayen
I mentioned yesterday that the FCC hearing on net neutrality would be streamed live this morning, but the drama was removed from the proceedings last night, when Michael Copps and Mignon Clyburn announced, with some reluctance, that they would support Julius Genachowski’s pretend net neutrality plan. Tim Karr was one of the first out of the gate to blast the decision.
According to all reports, the rule, which will be voted on during tomorrow’s FCC meeting, falls drastically short of earlier pledges by President Obama and the FCC Chairman to protect the free and open Internet.
The rule is so riddled with loopholes that it’s become clear that this FCC chairman crafted it with the sole purpose of winning the endorsement of AT&T and cable lobbyists, and not defending the interests of the tens of millions of Internet users.
We don’t know the full nature of the deal yet; Copps and Clyburn did negotiate with Genachowski and presumably got something for their votes. But their statements did show more regret than eagerness to embrace the rule. And Genachowski’s own statement, where he literally says “I reject both extremes” (as if it’s extreme to want content on the Internet to be treated equally), portends the expected disaster. The list of “supporters” of his rule include front groups being paid by the telecoms, and the Communication Workers of America, which has always lined up behind AT&T on net neutrality.
You just have to read the lead graf of the New York Times’ story today to know the nature of the sellout:
Check out the rest here… [link to news.firedoglake.com]
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New microbe discovered eating Gulf oil spill

A newly discovered type of oil-eating microbe suddenly is flourishing in the Gulf of Mexico and gobbling up the BP spill at a much faster rate than expected, scientists reported Tuesday.
Scientists discovered the new microbe while studying the underwater dispersion of millions of gallons of oil spilled since the explosion of BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling rig.
Also, the microbe works without significantly depleting oxygen in the water, researchers reported in the online journal Sciencexpress... READ MORE: [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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New microbe discovered eating Gulf oil spill

A newly discovered type of oil-eating microbe suddenly is flourishing in the Gulf of Mexico and gobbling up the BP spill at a much faster rate than expected, scientists reported Tuesday.
Scientists discovered the new microbe while studying the underwater dispersion of millions of gallons of oil spilled since the explosion of BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling rig.
Also, the microbe works without significantly depleting oxygen in the water, researchers reported in the online journal Sciencexpress... READ MORE: [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
 Quoting: Hans The Magnificent

Is that new, as in newly created. hmmm

strange goings on. Oh thats just sythia's cousin.

Hans what the net neutraility all about. Have not read about it. rken
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@ Nexus... I appreciate your feelings on this but if you read the full article it treats him well. "Awesome, eccentric genius" In fact, reading the story of Nicola Tesla when I was about 11 was one of the factors that led to me deciding to become an Engineer. He was considered a Nutjob by contemporary Scientists but much of his work has proved itself. I am writing this under flourescent lights for example.
 Quoting: Hans The Magnificent

These days Tesla would be deemed a "NERD".
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An interesting aside on the THREE GORGES DAM.I am convinced that this structure is contributing mightily to the earths changes that we are seeing.China is rearing the dragon's head.....
[link to earthquakequestions.com]
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The phrase is "resevoir-induced earthquake" and is caused by settling of the earth's crust beneath the weight of newly backed-up water.

In our area of NW South Carolina, two lakes were built behind dams for power production. One a 7,000 acre lake about 400' deep in places, the other an 18,000 acre lake about 150' deep in places. Not nearly the acreage covered by the Three Gorges Dam, nor nearly an equiivalent amount of backed-up water.

We had earthquakes in the area for about 20 years after the lakes were filled, usually in the 2 - 4 magnitude range, some shakey enough to rattle dishes in the cabinets. Sometime too, there was a "boom" associated with a quake. I do not know of reports that directly attributed these quakes to the new lakes, but it was kinda understood that was the reason for the quaking and shaking.
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FAKE NET NEUTRALITY PROPOSAL TO GET RUBBER-STAMPED TODAY
By: David Dayen
I mentioned yesterday that the FCC hearing on net neutrality would be streamed live this morning, but the drama was removed from the proceedings last night, when Michael Copps and Mignon Clyburn announced, with some reluctance, that they would support Julius Genachowski’s pretend net neutrality plan. Tim Karr was one of the first out of the gate to blast the decision.
According to all reports, the rule, which will be voted on during tomorrow’s FCC meeting, falls drastically short of earlier pledges by President Obama and the FCC Chairman to protect the free and open Internet.
The rule is so riddled with loopholes that it’s become clear that this FCC chairman crafted it with the sole purpose of winning the endorsement of AT&T and cable lobbyists, and not defending the interests of the tens of millions of Internet users.
We don’t know the full nature of the deal yet; Copps and Clyburn did negotiate with Genachowski and presumably got something for their votes. But their statements did show more regret than eagerness to embrace the rule. And Genachowski’s own statement, where he literally says “I reject both extremes” (as if it’s extreme to want content on the Internet to be treated equally), portends the expected disaster. The list of “supporters” of his rule include front groups being paid by the telecoms, and the Communication Workers of America, which has always lined up behind AT&T on net neutrality.
You just have to read the lead graf of the New York Times’ story today to know the nature of the sellout:
Check out the rest here… [link to news.firedoglake.com]
 Quoting: Hans The Magnificent



Pardon me, but I'd like to state .02 worth on net neutrality.

First, please be aware that Mignon Clyburn is the daughter of Jim Clyburn, House of Representatives (SC-D) and he is assistant Minority Whip, or some such in the '11 Congress.

Mignon has been all over the place in remarks and position about the internet and I cannot describe where she stands, except beside her Daddy.

I'm getting the feeling that net neutrality is being structured to assist in a new power-grid system and that SC may be one of the proving grounds. In connection with this, please recall that Woodie has mentioned a couple of times that new wireless infrastructure and underground cable is being installed at a rapid pace in areas close to the coast and no one seems to know why.

In my county in SC, the g'ment has initiated a 200+ mile cable for "free" internet access to "rural" areas. In good economic times, our locale is under extreme growth pressures. It seems that the majority of the millions of dollars cost is to be borne through federal stimulus money with a small share by by local property tax revenue. The plan seems to be to turn over the infrastructure to a private operator, which is supposed to pay back the oost as "paying" customers come on line. Not sure how you get "paying" customers when a substantial amount of the service is to be free. Perhaps free to a household, but the utiliity companies pay. Our population is around 70,000 which is not exactly a bulging population in need of 'net access.

Reading about the cold weather in Europe, I have just learned that many power meters are pre-paid. Ours are not, but new digital meters are being put in place which allows the power company to read meters from their offices.

My guess is that all new construction is to be put on some kind of pre-paid system and that internet connection is needed for proper meter control of utilities for gas, power, and water.

Anyone reading this net neutrality legislation, can you tell if the wording is open-ended for allowing full control of utilities by way of an internet connection?

About Woodies' comments: Is there anyway that power to be generated from an algae source in the Gulf could be transmitted through this infrastructure he is talking about?
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Porretto's comments may be relevant.
Didn't Saddam's elite soldiers get subjected to some sort of mind-control weapon?

Francis W. Porretto says...

In Vernor Vinge's most recent novel, Rainbow's End, the central techno-motif is a new weapon of mass destruction he calls YGBM: "You Gotta Believe Me." It's a mass-persuasion technology, capable of inducing unshakable belief in a selected proposition, however absurd, in whatever audience it's aimed at. I've played with the notion myself. It strikes me as far more terrifying than any explosive or virus one could whip up.

and...

Dear lifeboat,

-- You are unaware of what weapons will soon be here. --

Actually, I am aware, possibly far more aware than you. You see, that's the field I work in.

Any weapon that would involve the infliction of physical harm on Smith by another agency would also hold out the possibility of a countermeasure, or of being thwarted by a sufficiently prompt counterattack. But a weapon that would convince Smith to do harm to himself could not be countered by any imaginable means. It would make it possible for a sufficiently bloodthirsty or deranged individual to persuade everyone in the world to commit suicide, willingly and happily. It would effectively obliterate free will.

Think about such a thing in the hands of Al Gore or Hillary Clinton. Think about it in the hands of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Think about it in the hands of a radical environmentalist, perhaps the organizers of The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement.

We who are of a certain age can remember the fears over "subliminal advertising," which was thought to be such a technique. Subliminals failed to deliver, thank God, but the overarching concept -- the reduction of human volition to the level of cattle -- remains the most terrifying of all possible developments.

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maaybe slightly off topic, but saw this video on another thread here on glp a few days ago .... found this clip interesting (and not so sure if it's all bullshit?)


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Hi *dim*
and everyone who found this vid above interresting,

Go watch the image on this page : [link to www.thebigwobble.com]

IT IS THE SAME BLUE ORB/PLANET/thing ... taken in Jan 2010.




(sorry for being absent so much, I have a very bad flu. But I will survive ;)
Kitty-cat is finally better :D:D:D )
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New microbe discovered eating Gulf oil spill

A newly discovered type of oil-eating microbe suddenly is flourishing in the Gulf of Mexico and gobbling up the BP spill at a much faster rate than expected, scientists reported Tuesday.
Scientists discovered the new microbe while studying the underwater dispersion of millions of gallons of oil spilled since the explosion of BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling rig.
Also, the microbe works without significantly depleting oxygen in the water, researchers reported in the online journal Sciencexpress... READ MORE: [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

Is that new, as in newly created. hmmm

strange goings on. Oh thats just sythia's cousin.

Hans what the net neutraility all about. Have not read about it. rken
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They want to severely regulate the Internet... Think China style. Say the wrong thing and it gets blocked, extra charges for certain types of emails, that sort of thing. Deliberately made complex so it is hard to understand... until Internet Police break down your door.
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Mysterious whale deaths off Argentina.

[link to english.aljazeera.net]
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A bit unrelated...but just found this...

This strange weather phenomenon happened in Newfoundland where the waves were actually frozen as they crashed on the beach.

[link to www.break.com]


saw that video .... it's posted on another glp thread ... some say it's an old video, and it's ice being pushed ashore by the waves

but never the less ... very interesting indeed

caught the end part of a documentary on UK tv a few days ago .... think it was filmed in Siberia or somewhere similar and was titled 'The coldest Place on earth' .... guy took a bucket of boiling water, tipped it out it in the air, and the water droplets immediately turned into snow
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Had to add to this. I grew up in northern Minnesota and saw this happen a couple of times. Probably on the lee side of the ice flow there was enough open water for the wind/wave action to move the entire lake sheet of ice. Nothing could stop it until the flow ran out of momentum. I enjoyed the video.
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Mysterious whale deaths off Argentina.

[link to english.aljazeera.net]
 Quoting: Mikki 1202908



The water off Argentina has been seeded with iron to encourage algae growth for the purpose of sequestering CO2.

Results have not been encouraging, and is possible that the algae has endangered the whales.



"The argument over whether ocean iron fertilization is a good way to sequester carbon dioxide may be coming to an end. Last month, a group of researchers seeded 300 square kilometers of the southwestern Atlantic Ocean with six metric tons of dissolved iron. Just as researchers hoped, algae bloomed, doubling in biomass within the first two weeks of the fertilization. But then, an unexpected guest showed up: tiny shrimp-like crustaceans that dined on the algae. Therefore, much of the algae — and the carbon dioxide they absorbed — didn’t make it to the deep ocean where scientists had hoped the gas would have been sequestered for hundreds of years.


... the researchers say iron fertilization is probably not an effective way to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Originally Posted: 01 Apr 2009"

[link to www.earthmagazine.org]



There have been a few posts indicating that some people think that iron is in the Corexit being dispursed in the Gulf of Mexico. We don't know because of BP's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
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Mysterious whale deaths off Argentina.

[link to english.aljazeera.net]
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The water off Argentina has been seeded with iron to encourage algae growth for the purpose of sequestering CO2.

Results have not been encouraging, and is possible that the algae has endangered the whales.



"The argument over whether ocean iron fertilization is a good way to sequester carbon dioxide may be coming to an end. Last month, a group of researchers seeded 300 square kilometers of the southwestern Atlantic Ocean with six metric tons of dissolved iron. Just as researchers hoped, algae bloomed, doubling in biomass within the first two weeks of the fertilization. But then, an unexpected guest showed up: tiny shrimp-like crustaceans that dined on the algae. Therefore, much of the algae — and the carbon dioxide they absorbed — didn’t make it to the deep ocean where scientists had hoped the gas would have been sequestered for hundreds of years.


... the researchers say iron fertilization is probably not an effective way to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Originally Posted: 01 Apr 2009"

[link to www.earthmagazine.org]



There have been a few posts indicating that some people think that iron is in the Corexit being dispursed in the Gulf of Mexico. We don't know because of BP's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
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New microbe discovered eating Gulf oil spill

A newly discovered type of oil-eating microbe suddenly is flourishing in the Gulf of Mexico and gobbling up the BP spill at a much faster rate than expected, scientists reported Tuesday.
Scientists discovered the new microbe while studying the underwater dispersion of millions of gallons of oil spilled since the explosion of BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling rig.
Also, the microbe works without significantly depleting oxygen in the water, researchers reported in the online journal Sciencexpress... READ MORE: [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

Is that new, as in newly created. hmmm

strange goings on. Oh thats just sythia's cousin.

Hans what the net neutraility all about. Have not read about it. rken

They want to severely regulate the Internet... Think China style. Say the wrong thing and it gets blocked, extra charges for certain types of emails, that sort of thing. Deliberately made complex so it is hard to understand... until Internet Police break down your door.
 Quoting: Hans The Magnificent


Does not explain why the feds are funding internet access to a rather sparsely populated rural county. Also, we do not yet have an explanation for the infrastructure being laid near the Coast that Woodie has referenced.

The federal government would not be setting up 'net access, just to turn around and block it from us. There must be other reasons and I kinda suspect that if we knew what to look for, that the reason is structured in the 'net neutrality' bill.
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FCC just voted to regulate the Internet

just like with cap and trade being handed over to the EPA as a way of skirting congress. They have now done the same with the FCC and the internet

[link to weaselzippers.us]


The Obama regime is now using the FCC to pass laws even though that is Congress’ job. Another shameful power-grab…

(Jonathon Seidl)- The FCC has voted 3-2 along political lines to extend the government’s reach and regulate the internet via net neutrality.

The vote to institute net neutrality rules marks the first time the government has stepped into the world of internet regulation. Proponent’s of the net neutrality rules say that the move allows the government to stop companies from controlling too much of the internet, while opponents view it as a scary example of government control and an impediment of private business.

“As we stand here now, the freedom and openness of the Internet are unprotected… . That will change once we vote to approve this strong and balanced order,” FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said at a commission meeting on Tuesday, according to The Hill.

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Mysterious whale deaths off Argentina.

[link to english.aljazeera.net]



The water off Argentina has been seeded with iron to encourage algae growth for the purpose of sequestering CO2.

Results have not been encouraging, and is possible that the algae has endangered the whales.



"The argument over whether ocean iron fertilization is a good way to sequester carbon dioxide may be coming to an end. Last month, a group of researchers seeded 300 square kilometers of the southwestern Atlantic Ocean with six metric tons of dissolved iron. Just as researchers hoped, algae bloomed, doubling in biomass within the first two weeks of the fertilization. But then, an unexpected guest showed up: tiny shrimp-like crustaceans that dined on the algae. Therefore, much of the algae — and the carbon dioxide they absorbed — didn’t make it to the deep ocean where scientists had hoped the gas would have been sequestered for hundreds of years.


... the researchers say iron fertilization is probably not an effective way to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Originally Posted: 01 Apr 2009"

[link to www.earthmagazine.org]



There have been a few posts indicating that some people think that iron is in the Corexit being dispursed in the Gulf of Mexico. We don't know because of BP's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203150


Thread: THE WALKING DEAD - PART I: HOW THE GULF BLUE PLAGUE (BP) BEGAN
It's all about the 'vibe'
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Just a hypothetical question.
#1
What would be the benefit of keeping Earth the same size and shape as it is right now. No expansion or tectonic plate movement at all. No change at all.

#2
Does the size of this planet contribute to any particular phenominom? i.e. resonant frquency.
It's all about the 'vibe'
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FCC just voted to regulate the Internet

just like with cap and trade being handed over to the EPA as a way of skirting congress. They have now done the same with the FCC and the internet

[link to weaselzippers.us]


The Obama regime is now using the FCC to pass laws even though that is Congress’ job. Another shameful power-grab…

(Jonathon Seidl)- The FCC has voted 3-2 along political lines to extend the government’s reach and regulate the internet via net neutrality.

The vote to institute net neutrality rules marks the first time the government has stepped into the world of internet regulation. Proponent’s of the net neutrality rules say that the move allows the government to stop companies from controlling too much of the internet, while opponents view it as a scary example of government control and an impediment of private business.

“As we stand here now, the freedom and openness of the Internet are unprotected… . That will change once we vote to approve this strong and balanced order,” FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said at a commission meeting on Tuesday, according to The Hill.

Thread: BAM! FCC just voted to regulate the Internet
 Quoting: rken 1203224




[link to www.epa.gov]

A closer look...

Who is Paul Raskin?

New World Order by another name?


[link to www.gtinitiative.org]

[link to www.thesolutionsjournal.com]

[link to www.tellus.org]

The Corporation 20/20 Fall 2010 lunch seminar series marks the fifth anniversary of the release of the Corporation 20/20 six Principles of Corporate Design.

Below are the brief descriptions of the first three seminars which will took place at the Tellus Institute in Boston.

As background reading for the entire seminar series, we draw your attention to a new Great Transition Initiative Perspectives article that explores the concept of a World Corporate Charter Organization (WCCO), "When the World Rules Corporations: Pathway to a Global Corporate Charter."

[link to www.corporation2020.org]

[link to www.gtinitiative.org]



[link to launch.org]
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20,000 fossils tell how life escaped extinction

A giant cache of nearly 20,000 fossil reptiles, shellfish and a host of other prehistoric creatures unearthed from a mountain in China is now revealing how life recovered after the most devastating mass extinction on Earth.
More at link: [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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What's happening in Tennessee

Sequoyah Nuclear Power Plant
County / State: State of Tennessee City: Soddy-Daisy
Cause of event: Unknown Log date [UTC]: 22/12/2010 - 09:18:43

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]


Found it:

Turbine fire shuts down Sequoyah reactor

[link to www.timesfreepress.com]

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Mysterious whale deaths off Argentina.

[link to english.aljazeera.net]



The water off Argentina has been seeded with iron to encourage algae growth for the purpose of sequestering CO2.

Results have not been encouraging, and is possible that the algae has endangered the whales.



"The argument over whether ocean iron fertilization is a good way to sequester carbon dioxide may be coming to an end. Last month, a group of researchers seeded 300 square kilometers of the southwestern Atlantic Ocean with six metric tons of dissolved iron. Just as researchers hoped, algae bloomed, doubling in biomass within the first two weeks of the fertilization. But then, an unexpected guest showed up: tiny shrimp-like crustaceans that dined on the algae. Therefore, much of the algae — and the carbon dioxide they absorbed — didn’t make it to the deep ocean where scientists had hoped the gas would have been sequestered for hundreds of years.


... the researchers say iron fertilization is probably not an effective way to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Originally Posted: 01 Apr 2009"

[link to www.earthmagazine.org]



There have been a few posts indicating that some people think that iron is in the Corexit being dispursed in the Gulf of Mexico. We don't know because of BP's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

Thread: THE WALKING DEAD - PART I: HOW THE GULF BLUE PLAGUE (BP) BEGAN
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In case some did not pick up on it, following is from the glp link posted by BHD:


"Their study states that dispersant use on the surface “almost certainly accelerated the microbial consumption of the oil” and left little doubt that the oil consumed by the bacteria reached the zooplankton at the base of the marine food chain, an incredibly important food-source for fish, jellyfish and whales.

According to Terry Hazen, many hydrocarbon-degrading enzymes have iron as a component. He also states “There’s not enough iron to form more of these enzymes, which would degrade the carbon faster.” So then, what would happen if you added iron to the Gulf of Mexico?

The oil-eating bacteria they introduced into the Gulf would be able to eat the oil at an accelerated rate if there were more iron, but typical Gulf water naturally has a very low trace of iron. But according to rainwater tests from Gulf rainclouds, Iron and other elements are being added to the Gulf waters. Perhaps now you can understand that the “dispersant” formula being used also contains elemental nutrients, such as iron, copper, manganese, nickel, and aluminum to enhance and feed the SG bacterium placed into the Gulf to eat up the oil."
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In the interest of getting off this damn page, I relay this offering from 1221:

Ancient humans, dubbed 'Denisovans', interbred with us

Professor Chris Stringer: "It's nothing short of sensational - we didn't know know how ancient people in China related to these other humans"
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Scientists say an entirely separate type of human identified from bones in Siberia co-existed and interbred with our own species.
The ancient humans have been dubbed "Denisovans" after the caves in Siberia where their remains were found.
There is also evidence that this population was widespread in Eurasia.
A study in Nature journal shows that Denisovans co-existed with Neanderthals and interbred with our species - perhaps around 50,000 years ago.
An international group of researchers sequenced a complete genome from one of the ancient hominins (human-like creatures), based on nuclear DNA extracted from a finger bone.
'Sensational' find
According to the researchers, this provides confirmation there were at least four distinct types of human in existence when anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) first left their African homeland....

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Calling Woodie:



You mentioned a few weeks ago that 'they' were lookig for people with a certain blood type.

Now this on glp: Thread: Rat out O-negs to Red Cross/creepy radio ad

Please tell us the blood type 'they' were looking for. Do you know the reason?

Many thanks for your response.
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Another article on the Gulf Oil Situation:


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World Leaders Flock To Afghanistan After Mysterious ‘Time Well’ Discovered

A peculiar report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) circulating in the Kremlin today states that German Chancellor Angela Merkel has become the latest in a growing line of Western leaders to make a ‘surprise’ visit to Afghanistan this month and follows visits by United States President Obama (December 3rd), British Prime Minister David Cameron (December 7th) and French President Nicolas Sarkozy (December 8th).

Only Sarkozy’s trip, this report says, was concealed as he was already in India on a state visit when ‘rushed’ by a US Military aircraft to the Afghan war zone.
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was surfing the net a few days ago after I saw the video regarding Joe Biden's reverse speech (his speech played backwards)

Thread: JOE BIDEN ((REVERSE SPEECH))




saw the words 'seed earth', so decided to google
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found some info about a company called 'Planktos Corp.'

in a nutshell, this company was involved with 'seeding the oceans' with iron ... environmental groups objected, and they had to close shop in 2008

[link to gigaom.com]

the owner of the company,Russ George stated this:

A tragedy for the planet.” George added that Planktos Science, which he says has most of the technology, intellectual property and personnel from the original Planktos Corp., has raised some venture capital. Though he declined to say how much or from whom he added, “We’ll be back. We are back. Planktos will rise again.
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then decided to dig a bit deeper and found that Craig Venter and Bill Gates also 'endorses' this idea .... found this article:

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

snip:

Biotech supremo Craig Venter's latest foray into "synthetic life" is raising all sorts of questions within the domain of medical and scientific ethics.

One of the potential uses which he's looking at for synthetic bacteria - sucking carbon dioxide from the atmosphere - potentially also breaks new ground in the ethics of human effects on the natural world.

Dr Venter's proposed CO2-suckers, if they ever materialise, would basically constitute a new entry into the field of geo-engineering - using technology to ameliorate human-induced climate change.

Existing proposals include those with a notion of biology, such as using iron filings to stimulate the growth of oceanic plants or switching to growing crops with reflective leaves.

But most lie firmly in the physical domain - whitening roofs, putting a giant sunshade in space, or spraying the atmosphere with dust to mimic the sun-reflecting and planet-cooling effect of volcanic eruptions.

What should we call Dr Venter's vision? "Bio-geo-engineering"? "Geno-geo-engineering"?

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and from the same article, a snip about Bill Gates:

A couple of weeks ago, The Times reported that Bill Gates was funding a project co-ordinated by the San Francisco-based Silver Lining Project that would trial cloud-building - sucking up water from the sea and spraying it into the air, providing nuclei for the formation of clouds that would reflect solar energy back into space.
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then went a bit further, and found that Craig Venter and Russ George were both speakers at a seminar in 2007

[link to users.erols.com]

snip:

6) Energy Challenges: The Next Thousand Years

Thomas Valone, Integrity Research Institute, February 14, 2007, www.futurefoundation.org/programs/hum_home.htm

Bellvue, WA - Humanity 3000, established in 1998, brings together at regular intervals a changing roster of some of the world’s most prominent thinkers to assess the current state of humanity and to identify the significant factors that may affect life a thousand years into the future. This year's Humanity 3000 Seminar is entitled "Global Energy" and is also part of the "Energy Challenges: The Next Thousand Years" workshop to be held at the Westin hotel in Bellevue, WA on March 29 - April 1, 2007. It will feature the following distinguished participants and panelists (five of whom were speakers at the Second Conference on Future Energy in Washington DC):
Mr. Howard Bloom = International Paleopsychology Project

Dr. Dennis Bushnell = NASA

Dr. Eric Chaisson = Wright Center for Innovative Science Education

Mr. Russ George = CEO, Planktos

Dr. Jerome Glenn = AC/UNU/Millennium Project

Mr. Gustov Grob = International Clean Energy Consortium

Dr. Martin Hoffert = NYU Physics Dept.

Dr. Feng Hsu = NASA

Dr. Thorsten Ludwig = Technical University of Berlin

Mr. John C. Mankins = Space Power Association

Dr. Fabrizio Pinto = Interstellar Tech. Corp.

Mr. Darel Preble = Chair, Space Solar Power Institute

Sir Crispin Tickell = Chancellor, University of Kent

Dr. Thomas Valone = President, Integrity Research Institute

Dr. Craig Venter = The Center for Advancement of Genomics

Dr. Paul Werbos = National Science Foundation

Seminar, Symposia, and Workshop Series

The Foundation For the Future convenes annual Humanity 3000 seminars and bi-decadal symposia. The seminars typically convene 25 to 35 participants. The first symposium, in August 2000, brought together 70 scholars from 40 disciplines and 20 countries. In addition, smaller workshops are conducted periodically to provide a knowledge base for seminar and symposia participants.

Virtually all physical, biological, and social sciences are represented in Humanity 3000 dialogues, which are focused on human life in the thousand-year future. Each seminar is designed to be an exercise in creative and contemplative thought, and every effort is made in the selection of participants to ensure a wide representation of worldviews.

Purpose
The purpose of each seminar is to facilitate a free exchange of ideas about the future of our species, with an emphasis on informed understanding of what science tells us about the key factors that may affect the long-term future of humanity, as well as how the scientific view integrates into the whole. Participants not only identify and explore these key factors, but also map the past and current territory, and attempt to outline the future trajectory of each factor, as currently understood, in view of foreseeable future problems and opportunities.

Humanity 3000 participants are asked to address the following: In the context of Homo sapiens' evolutionary past, present, and thousand-year future:

• What are the threats to the survival of humanity?

• What are the opportunities that offset/mitigate the threats?

• What are the emergent priorities to ensure the future well-being of humanity?

Scholars interested in participating in seminars and/or symposia are invited to contact the Foundation for additional information:

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done a bit of research on a company called Climos, which is involved in the seeding ....

[link to www.climos.com]

snip:

Climos proposes to fund a team of scientists from the international academic/research community who are familiar with the science associated with OIF experiments. Climos will fund a workshop to develop measurement strategy and experimental design. The scientific team will design the experiment based on the workshop results, develop a methodology which will be made public, conduct the experiment, and transfer the results immediately to a public data base. Climos employees will not participate in the experiment or handle the data. The two most likely locations for the experiment are the high seas in the northwest Pacific (a site of two previous experiments), or the sub-polar Southern Ocean (where five previous experiments have been completed).

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then, found a company called Gentag .... members from Craig Venter's company (Synthetic Genomics, Inc.) and members from Climos are all directors (based on this link):

[link to investing.businessweek.com]

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so, if the above is all corect, these companies are all 'intertwined' ....

anyway, stopped researching at that point, as had to go to bed, but thought I'd make mention as some have posted about the iron seeding and the dead whales

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Life continues to be difficult for the Gulf Coast residents...
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BP SLICK............literally an overview.......excellent coverage ....SUCH FOLLY!
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