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Hahaha, I've just had a funny thought.
[for those not in chat, Woodie was talking about moving the planet, indeed, moving the Solar system!]

I can see the dudes on Nibiru looking blankly at the head honcho......

"well this is where we left it last time...err, I dont know where it is now sire..."

[pulls out galactic street map. Earth, page 258, E/52/7.... daaang!!!]


chuckle

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Right on, BHD - just think, what we're doing now, it we went back 200 years and told the people, we would be burnt at the stake as witches.

Just because someone today says it's impossible, does not mean that tomorrow it can't be done.

Even on this thread, we have shown that many 'boundries' that people thought were fixed have moved or even vanished.

hf
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Interesting about the NZ earthquake - I

CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE INTENSIFIED TO AN 8 0R A 9

Thread: CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE INTENSIFIED TO AN 8 0R A 9

It raises a few more questions.............

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Haha, love the humour here. Its the subtle, and not so subtle that makes such a serious subject bearable.

I thought the latest av might stir things up a bit...
(08, just for you, I'll do a front version with a red ball in the Macak's mouth!!!! LOL)
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scared
"People were allways getting ready for tomorrow.I didnt believe in that. Tomorrow wasnt getting ready for them. It didnt even know they were there." Cormac Mccarthy
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bhd , i love your hairy gymp (gimp?)look. is there somthing you havent been sharing with us?tomato
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That had/has to do with that greek youtube-movie that Dhlos posted ... BHD said something about a 'cave' and the walls looking drab, in agreement and understandment Dhlos posted his movie.
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hi krispy
yup, im familiar with plato's cave. just taking the piss with bhd's new av. my sense of humour dosent seem to fit on this thread so i better cut it out. i love bhd, you, dhlos and many other regulars on this thread, even some that dont love me (go figure).
im sure bhd can take a gimp joke(after a few coopers any way)
the gimp thing is kinda relevant in bhd's av context anyway.
The world we see is veiwed from the perspective of we who are blindfolded chained and abused for the pleasure of those who have control and the perverted pleasure we get from being abused. there fore a gimp.
love the Wandjina.
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Hey O8,
just coz I lacked a bit of sence for humor that day, does not mean that you have to cut out my dear man !!!!
Please stay and act like your sweet and unique self !!!!
Sorry my friend, didnt ment to sound that way hf I love you toooo !!!

BHD is a genius with avaatars ! hahaha !


Have a happy healty :thuesday:
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The liquifaction is indeed bad as is the threat of hills that may still come down. There was an interesting podcast on The Intel Hub News Network. A variety of views of the quake were presented,including questions as to why FEMA was in NZ and left the country 3 hours before the quake hit. We are gratefull for all the support from international agencies who have teams here,also from the NZ Army,Navy Police Force,Search and Resuce and the 1000s of Kiwis who are helping.
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I'm hoping you and yr kin are OK too Agapao.

That is indeed interesting that FEMA (as in US?) were in ChCh before hand. They seem to be making a habit of arriving a day early to such events....
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bump

Strange indeed !

I also wanna wich all the efected people much strength and a quick recovery from losses in every way.

bighug
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Not only were FEMA (yes US) here but we were also shown a small drone plane at had REALLY good visual properties, it was flying around the damaged area and we could see what it was viewing.(the next question is what else can it do) It was only shown twice (on same day about 15minutes apart), the commentator said it was something rarely seen in the public domain/or outside of US. Strange that it was here in a tiny country that doesnt allow US ships etc to dock here.
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bump again ....
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Hahaha, I've just had a funny thought.
[for those not in chat, Woodie was talking about moving the planet, indeed, moving the Solar system!]

I can see the dudes on Nibiru looking blankly at the head honcho......

"well this is where we left it last time...err, I dont know where it is now sire..."

[pulls out galactic street map. Earth, page 258, E/52/7.... daaang!!!]


chuckle
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I have talked about that also before ...
I think it was with the M7 ... but back then there was no real response to it.

I will try to remember the context in what It was said and why I had that thought back then.


:)
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Yes, he has some very interesting views.

Reminded me of Mr Remington... "I was so impressed, I bought the company!"

Remember that ad?

But in this case it's more like - "I was so concerned about impact, I moved the planet!"

Stranger things have occured I'm sure. Again, its all perspective. Just because we cant conceive doing it, doesnt mean it cant be done.....something about moving mountains? Some one always has another way of doing things.

At the end of the day, our Planet is moving thru space anyway, so a course correction isnt out of the realms for me to take in. Very cool idea, and reason for the big sky screen.
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Recall that we had an advisory in the Southeast USA a few weeks back alerting pilots and boats that their GPS equipment might be off during two designated periods in February.

Is it possible that the same advisory was issued in other places and that we are unaware?

Posters are chatting again about the suggested holographic sky screen.

We might consider that GPS was taken offline to coordinate satellite signals with the holographic sky screen. The second offline period may have been to test the adjusted signal and make minor adjustments.

If satellite signals were being adjusted during these offtimes, then it is highly likely there were at least a couple other places around the world which were similarly adjusted and tested.
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Possibly unrelated but...

"Searchers this morning began a fifth day of searching treacherous Southern Ocean waters looking for signs of missing Norwegian yacht Berserk.

The yacht and its three-person crew have not been seen since its emergency beacon sent out a signal on Tuesday afternoon from the Ross Sea, about 33km north of Scott Base in Antarctica.

The Berserk's skipper, who was on the ice with another crew member as part of a South Pole expedition, confirmed yesterday that a life raft found in the Southern Ocean about 9am yesterday belonged to the Berserk.

It was missing its first aid kit and a survival knife and had a torn canopy but searchers said there was no sign it had ever been occupied. Evidence suggested it had floated free of the vessel and not been released manually, the New Zealand Rescue Co-ordination Centre (NZRCC) said.

Debris from the liferaft has been found up to 36km from where the raft itself was spotted.

The Sea Shepherd Conservation ship Steve Irwin today began searching the area surrounding Franklin Island at the head of McMurdo Sound.

The NZRCC said water temperature in the area was near-freezing and survival times were put at minutes.

The missing men include two Norwegians and a Briton. The two crew members on shore, both Norwegian, are still at least a day or two from McMurdo Base."

Link ---> [link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

Have just heard on radio that the two shore crew made it back to McMurdo after 20hours riding quad bikes and they're on the last flight out of Antarctica before Winter sets in.

Apologies if already covered earlier.
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Everything about this story, including the articles at the link and link-throughs screams BS !

The only reason I can see for such an elaborate tale is to send a coded message. Particularly interesting is that there are several articles initiating the interest and leading up to "on the last flight out of Antarctica before Winter sets in."

Insert: [the agents got the job done and got out without being detected.]

We will ever know what is happening, and has happened, in Antarctica?
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I like the latest from Clif. I have only two comments, which I would have emailed to him directly except that I cannot find an email for him.

(1) The amount of new water produced does not have to be much, indeed that might be why we have seemingly more and more of the earth's surface covered in water.

Assume that the depth of oceans is constant. That is a reasonable starting place, as long as the height of mountains and valleys is assumed to be constant. Consider an incremental increase in the earth's radius by an amount dr.

The volume of a sphere is 4/3 pi r^3, so the increase in volume is 4 pi r^2 dr. The surface area is 4 pi r^2, so the increase in surface area is 8 pi r dr. If the average ocean depth is d, the increased ocean volume is 8 pi r d dr. The ratio of new ocean volume to new total earth volume is

2d / r

a very small number.

(1a) and this number gets smaller for each successive increase in the earth's volume. If much new water is spewed out now, proportionally, we could quickly become WaterWorld.

Note that existing continents seem to fit together if you shrink the sphere size and remove most of the oceans, suggesting that in olden times the earth had a higher proportion of land to sea area on the surface. And that Atlantis sank; presumably all the existing continental shelves sank not too long ago.


(2) Clif offers the comforting thought (in the long run) that as the earth expands, the relative effect of each new increase is less. I am not convinced of that, unless the plasma core fails to grow -- and why should it? If the core grows in volume at the same rate as everything else, the effect of each step increase in the earth's size would be equally catastrophic for existing life on the surface.
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Hi BOC2,

Oh what shall we do!? Some other writers show maps with increased ocean coverage (head for the hills) but still others say that if you're too high up you will get even less atmospheric protection when the mag. field is at minimum. So stay low for a while then climb hills after the magnetic minimum when the seas are rising?

Thanks very much for the email, I've sent Clif the message.
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Hi BOC2,

Oh what shall we do!? Some other writers show maps with increased ocean coverage (head for the hills) but still others say that if you're too high up you will get even less atmospheric protection when the mag. field is at minimum. So stay low for a while then climb hills after the magnetic minimum when the seas are rising?

Thanks very much for the email, I've sent Clif the message.
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You're very welcome Oniongrass! The question of "should I stay or should I go" sounds like a song that used to be popular! I'm hoping that with all the info that we have and dot-connecting and that my consciousness has raised enough that I'll know what to do and when!
Right now, I'm listening to an interview on Coast to Coast AM with Stan Deyo that was recorded on 2/16/2011 Part 3 and he's talking about the expanding earth theory and how it's been measured for other planets as well and as planets age, they grow....very interesting info! I thought that Cliff did a nice job of weaving information together in a fairly coherent theory that actually makes a lot of sense.....


Here's the link for the video.....

[link to www.youtube.com]
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I like the latest from Clif. I have only two comments, which I would have emailed to him directly except that I cannot find an email for him.

(1) The amount of new water produced does not have to be much, indeed that might be why we have seemingly more and more of the earth's surface covered in water.

K: Why should more water BE PRODUCED?
To me it is a logical mechanism that when the presure in the earths core and outgoing is increasing (like is now), not only magma will surface -coz the cooloing proces is different with a slower moving core-, but also the water that was in basins under landmasses could be pushed upwards ... eihter by the magma or other "liquids" (like oil etc) that push the lighter water up.

Secondly, there could be more water DELIVERED from space !
Remember that they found now recently more waterparticals overal in space then milennia before ?
ABSU, is the personification of fresh water, absu = the sun, the particles from the sun deliver water on all celestial bodies. That is a scientific fact.
So with more protons and a DENSER region we travel through, it is not so unthinkable that the waterparticals have increased in number compared to a 100 years prior.




Assume that the depth of oceans is constant. That is a reasonable starting place, as long as the height of mountains and valleys is assumed to be constant. Consider an incremental increase in the earth's radius by an amount dr.

K: Sorry, we can NOT ASSUME the constantivity of depth of the ocean nor from the hight of mountains !!! They are IN CONSTANT MOVEMENT, so differ constantly in depth and hight.
So your "starting place" is based on false asumptions ... and what follows is bogus.

There is a reason why/how the radius of this planet could increase ... yup.
The higher the core-rotation of the earth, the more contractive forces that will kinda squeeze the planet in its forces (keep it tight togetter). The higher the rotationspeed, the better and faster the inner liquids will cool off and be prevented from surfacing in huge amounths.
When the core slows down the spinning speed, like now, it does not longer contract and cool down as much. So what happens is that the core heats up, and so the upperlayers of liquids and materials ... this cauzes more magma to surface and to push against the outerscale of the earth. The lowered spinning/rotation cauzes also gravitational changes (less presure to the surface) ... so the earth's radius EXPANDS, a natural logical thing.




The volume of a sphere is 4/3 pi r^3, so the increase in volume is 4 pi r^2 dr. The surface area is 4 pi r^2, so the increase in surface area is 8 pi r dr. If the average ocean depth is d, the increased ocean volume is 8 pi r d dr. The ratio of new ocean volume to new total earth volume is

2d / r

a very small number.

(1a) and this number gets smaller for each successive increase in the earth's volume. If much new water is spewed out now, proportionally, we could quickly become WaterWorld.

K: Uhhh NOPE, technically we would become WaterWorld if all landmasses would sink below watersurfaces ...
BUT THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN !
The earth is like a wage ... at some points the heavy icemasses are pushing landmasses down, what cauzes the land around or on other places to be pushed up.
So if one of the arctics were to melt for more then half or 3 quarter, the landmass that is now under the seawater would become deeper coz the presure on the landmass below the ice would decrease.
Rising waterlevels are NOT only due to melting ice, the changes in waterlevels are also connected to changing landmasses -above and below the waterline-.
I saw scientific youtube-vids that showed this equilibring proces of push up and presure down ...
Both arctics can melt to a certain amount, but then other regions will freeze off and will produce ice.
Planet earth is balance !




Note that existing continents seem to fit together if you shrink the sphere size and remove most of the oceans, suggesting that in olden times the earth had a higher proportion of land to sea area on the surface. And that Atlantis sank; presumably all the existing continental shelves sank not too long ago.

K: Sorry again ...
There has ALWAYS been water on this planet, togetter with landmasses. If you would remover all the water , yeah right sure that all the landmass will fit ...lol...
There are indeed parts of continents that have been connected before and have been RUPTURED by huge forces (maybe also becoz the planet of crosiing' influences and pushing and pulling forces, or/and togetter with other periods that the core slowed down or changed rotational direction)
It can seem that water was less in some periods or will be in the future, but that could have some reasons ... one of them would be that our water would be vaporised by cosmic energies, the athmosphere would have to crash down and the surface would have to heat up/burn up by some of the cosmic rays ... A second could be, that many water is sucked into large caves of landmass that would disappear below sealevel/sink like atlantis did. due to human disasters or natural events of/on a massive scale.
Many labyrinths out of ancient times are now below waterlevel, but once they were passageways and travelroutes for many generations of people and species.



(2) Clif offers the comforting thought (in the long run) that as the earth expands, the relative effect of each new increase is less. I am not convinced of that, unless the plasma core fails to grow -- and why should it? If the core grows in volume at the same rate as everything else, the effect of each step increase in the earth's size would be equally catastrophic for existing life on the surface.

K: Coz the Earth and all organisms LIVING ON AND IN IT are of symbiotic nature, we will alllllways grow with her and adapt to her energy. We are a linked organism.
The only thing that would be CATASTROPHIC is when we would loose our athmosphere, and all the other layers above the surface. Then we should adapt again to living below the surface and make technological steps to survive.
But then again, even on MARS there is life in the soil and below the surface ....
NOTHING in the univers is WITHOUT life !

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K: Sorry, no means to offend you personally,
but my thoughts are very different then yours.
Dont feel attact, coz I was not intending that ... just wanted to vent my thoughts on it and put them next to yours.

hf
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Very interesting post about the birds, fish and crystal vortexes, on the "Me tell u"-thread :
Thread: selected extracts from me tel u now thread

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A snip :

Crystal Caves

Masters, beneath the surface of the central region of Arkansas rest enormous beds of exquisite crystals the size and beauty of of which are visually stunning. Some of these quartz points are over 40 meters in length, seeded by the early Atlanteans. There are crystal caves beneath Arkansas that are aesthetically mesmerizing exuding a symmetry and inner light that is sublime. These 'Master Crystals' are beyond the reach of your mining concerns, and that is purposed. These crystal entities are very ancient and have been in a dormant mode for millennia. They were programmed with specialized attributes by the Sirians & Atlanteans, and are now in joyous modes of re-activation. These awakenings are releasing efficacious dynamics energies that spawn unusual phenomena as they reboot, non of which will be malevolent, quite the contrary...indeed they are a gift of immaculate proportion and intricate value.

Question to Metatron: On the 1-1-11 (Jan 1, 2011) 5,000 birds apparently fell from the sky in Arkansas, and on the same day 100,000 fish died in the Arkansas River. Can you explain what happened, and is it related in any way to the Crystal Activation?

Metatron: It was indeed an occurrence that raised quite a lot of attention. The demise of the blackbirds was in truth an aspect of the crystalline energies of Arkansas, the death of the fish was not. And although initially reported as occurring the same day, the fish began dying several days earlier. The fish died as a result of a bacterium in the river waters, which occurred as the result of residual traces of an agricultural pollutant that drained into the river far upstream.

The occurrence with the birds took place because an enormous flock of these red-winged blackbirds, hundreds of thousands of which nest in this area, flew into a piezo-electrical pulse of crystalline energy in that portion of Crystal Vortex. The birds flew into a electrical vortexial emission that sadly temporarily stunned them and approximately 4500 of a flock of more than 15,000 experienced a loss of equilibrium. They died as a result of trauma from the crash to the ground. Now we will add that this particular type of flocking bird operates in group-thought pattern, somewhat similar to a school of fish. This type of life form is actually a unified concentric beingness and one thought pattern regulates their awareness... which is how they manage to make such beautiful aerobatic swirls, as if precisely choreographed. In a manner of speaking these flocks are one entity with many units composing one awareness 'thought' pattern. They are not individual beings, per sei, in the usual sense.

etc ......
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Very interesting post about the birds, fish and crystal vortexes, on the "Me tell u"-thread :
Thread: selected extracts from me tel u now thread

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A snip :

Crystal Caves

Masters, beneath the surface of the central region of Arkansas rest enormous beds of exquisite crystals the size and beauty of of which are visually stunning. Some of these quartz points are over 40 meters in length, seeded by the early Atlanteans. There are crystal caves beneath Arkansas that are aesthetically mesmerizing exuding a symmetry and inner light that is sublime. These 'Master Crystals' are beyond the reach of your mining concerns, and that is purposed. These crystal entities are very ancient and have been in a dormant mode for millennia. They were programmed with specialized attributes by the Sirians & Atlanteans, and are now in joyous modes of re-activation. These awakenings are releasing efficacious dynamics energies that spawn unusual phenomena as they reboot, non of which will be malevolent, quite the contrary...indeed they are a gift of immaculate proportion and intricate value.

Question to Metatron: On the 1-1-11 (Jan 1, 2011) 5,000 birds apparently fell from the sky in Arkansas, and on the same day 100,000 fish died in the Arkansas River. Can you explain what happened, and is it related in any way to the Crystal Activation?

Metatron: It was indeed an occurrence that raised quite a lot of attention. The demise of the blackbirds was in truth an aspect of the crystalline energies of Arkansas, the death of the fish was not. And although initially reported as occurring the same day, the fish began dying several days earlier. The fish died as a result of a bacterium in the river waters, which occurred as the result of residual traces of an agricultural pollutant that drained into the river far upstream.

The occurrence with the birds took place because an enormous flock of these red-winged blackbirds, hundreds of thousands of which nest in this area, flew into a piezo-electrical pulse of crystalline energy in that portion of Crystal Vortex. The birds flew into a electrical vortexial emission that sadly temporarily stunned them and approximately 4500 of a flock of more than 15,000 experienced a loss of equilibrium. They died as a result of trauma from the crash to the ground. Now we will add that this particular type of flocking bird operates in group-thought pattern, somewhat similar to a school of fish. This type of life form is actually a unified concentric beingness and one thought pattern regulates their awareness... which is how they manage to make such beautiful aerobatic swirls, as if precisely choreographed. In a manner of speaking these flocks are one entity with many units composing one awareness 'thought' pattern. They are not individual beings, per sei, in the usual sense.

etc ......

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I correlated the crystals with Magnetized plumes. They activate during severe storms that produce Plasma ejections into space. When that plasma gets ejected from the clouds on Earth into space they pull with them Magnetized Plumes from deep within the Earths core. At the same time when that Plasma vortex back to Earth, at very fast speeds, it slams down on the ground setting off a blast and show of light. They also bring with it Hydrogen Cyanide from our Interplanetary Dust Cloud in a very localized and focused manner. Causing these Mass Animal Die-offs. They can also suck out Methane from beneath lakes and bodies of water.
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Wow! some refreshingly interesting stuff above! ^^

I dig the idea that water is a-biotic, just as I believe oil is, and possibly other things like soil and rock.

All you have to do is look at a Human body and all in it, and transpose on to the planet to get an idea of how it might function.

Regarding Earth expansion, well, I like the idea of that too, and have postulated on a lot of scenarios for the creation of mountains etc which are more easily explained using current plate techtonic theory, and plates pushing 'in to each other' rather than sliding away from each other or over each other.

In fact, why sliding at all? Why not just growth?
It's all about the 'vibe'
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Krispy,

Thanks for your comments. Actually I don't believe you are disagreeing with my main point (1), at least in substantive terms, although the logic you apply to your assumptions is different from what I would use. In general, you may not be used to a "simplified model" way of thinking of things, but it's the way I usually try to understand systems: a few parts at a time.

You propose ways that more water could be added to the earth's surface: from below or from above. From there, all that's needed for the WaterWorld conclusion is that ocean depth is somewhat constant. I held it exactly constant as a simplifying mathematical assumption, but if the fraction of the earth's surface that is covered by water increased, the average ocean depth would tend to increase. Think of adding 100 feet worth of water to the whole earth: the lowest parts will gain over 100 feet in depth, some areas currently land would get from 0 to over 100 feet of water over them, while the remaining land area would be reduced. Think of the actual movie Waterworld. The water was extremely deep almost everywhere, but there was a little bit of land still exposed: the tip of Mount Everest.

You also seem to agree that the continents look like they would fit together if we removed much of the ocean area from the earth. You agree, then say there were always some oceans. Actually I don't know it that's true, since I surely don't remember those times, but even if it was, there may have been a smaller percentage of the earth's surface covered by ocean when the earth was smaller.

Regarding point (2), are you arguing that there will not be a big die-off? You might be right, but you should come out and say it. Otherwise you'll find many people (I'm not a very good example, but many others) who would find it primarily catastrophic.
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Hi ya'll . peace
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Hi Oniongrass, hi MzK. I reckon there is a lot more in common with both yr thinking.

With the increase in water, remember that in Earth expansion, there is more surface area for that same water to be on, so a re-distribution would be more likely, rather than a flooding exercise. Well, imho anyway!

If the stretching, growing of the Earth occurs, then depending on what's going on below, (and that's up to Mother Earth!) then under sea mountains, may actually become islands once the surface/volume has increased. Conversely, where there was land, may now be under water, as the stretching has resulted in a drop at that point on the Earth; any drop being filled with water if there is a link to the sea, or filled in time with fresh water.

I could see die offs, but not necessarily massive die offs, or complete extinctions. Mankind has spread out our cultures and the animal populations such that some would survive at some point, somewhere.

Re-distribution of the surface, and shifting on the current continents and possibly new ones/islands fits in to my thinking on many legends of old. (inc. biblical)

But, I am happy to change direction as new ideas and information comes to hand. At the end of the day, I reckon the 'answer' to all of it is more wierd and wonderful than we can even imagine. Silly statement I know, but history shows us this over and over as we grasp just a little bit more of what we are, where we are and why.

That was all a bit vague wasnt it? Meh...
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With the increase in water, remember that in Earth expansion, there is more surface area for that same water to be on, so a re-distribution would be more likely, rather than a flooding exercise. Well, imho anyway!
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Just to make it clear what I was saying. I agree that the larger earth will have more surface area, but not much relative to the increase in volume.

So if we were to double the volume of earth and double the amount of surface water, keeping the topography about the same other than that there is just "more" of it, we would have WaterWorld immediately. There would be only a few highlands left above the waves. Or maybe none at all, I'm not really sure.
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With the increase in water, remember that in Earth expansion, there is more surface area for that same water to be on, so a re-distribution would be more likely, rather than a flooding exercise. Well, imho anyway!
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Just to make it clear what I was saying. I agree that the larger earth will have more surface area, but not much relative to the increase in volume.

So if we were to double the volume of earth and double the amount of surface water, keeping the topography about the same other than that there is just "more" of it, we would have WaterWorld immediately. There would be only a few highlands left above the waves. Or maybe none at all, I'm not really sure.
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That's assuming the increase in volume of the planet is uniform, and happens uniformly in an instant, or over a period of time.

What if the growth is localised and fast? Making an egg shape for simplicities sake, which then over time, as centrifugal forces act on it, settles in to a more spheroid shape.

The growth may not be uniform at all, so if it happened at the deepest point of the Earth, the total water depth would reduce wouldnt it?

Dont you just love thinking about this stuff!!??

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Krispy,

Thanks for your comments. Actually I don't believe you are disagreeing with my main point (1), at least in substantive terms, although the logic you apply to your assumptions is different from what I would use. In general, you may not be used to a "simplified model" way of thinking of things, but it's the way I usually try to understand systems: a few parts at a time.

You propose ways that more water could be added to the earth's surface: from below or from above. From there, all that's needed for the WaterWorld conclusion is that ocean depth is somewhat constant. I held it exactly constant as a simplifying mathematical assumption, but if the fraction of the earth's surface that is covered by water increased, the average ocean depth would tend to increase. Think of adding 100 feet worth of water to the whole earth: the lowest parts will gain over 100 feet in depth, some areas currently land would get from 0 to over 100 feet of water over them, while the remaining land area would be reduced. Think of the actual movie Waterworld. The water was extremely deep almost everywhere, but there was a little bit of land still exposed: the tip of Mount Everest.

You also seem to agree that the continents look like they would fit together if we removed much of the ocean area from the earth. You agree, then say there were always some oceans. Actually I don't know it that's true, since I surely don't remember those times, but even if it was, there may have been a smaller percentage of the earth's surface covered by ocean when the earth was smaller.

Regarding point (2), are you arguing that there will not be a big die-off? You might be right, but you should come out and say it. Otherwise you'll find many people (I'm not a very good example, but many others) who would find it primarily catastrophic.
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Hello oniongrass, tnx for the nice reply :D
Lol, yeah I know I have a specific logic hahahaha ... But its what it is MY LOGIC and it is shared by some and not by others, no problem :)

-"More water added":
Merely I think that could be possible, although I have strong believes that Mother Earth is a balanced living organism, "a body" just like BHD said so nicely ! Different in shape then ours but working with and through many similar principles.
I like to think that the amounth of water will be within certain boundries .. (just for example, say not below 5 and not above 9)

The depth of an ocean will NEVER be constant, dear fellow ... that is not a criterium you can use. Just like our bloodpresure is never exact the same, it is according changes in our body, and some area's need some more blood at some points then on other occasions ... Tension in our body is never a constant, although medical people tend to make an average of everything saying that is a constant, but its not. We are constantly adapting to inner and outer circumstances ... just like light is not a constant, nor is speed ... LIFE (as a general term) in all its forms and ways is a constant in the univers, but life in its specific form(s) is not a constant thing.
Sorry to be vague now ...lol...


- "but if the fraction of the earth's surface that is covered by water increased, the average ocean depth would tend to increase." :
In my logic, the depth of the oceans would only become deeper if more water was added AND the size of earth would be a constant or even shrink.
I agree with BHD's words that it seems that the earth's surface has a GROWING tendence in stead of ONLY a sliding -above and below- tendency.

If we would look to the movement of the earth like a BREATH, then there is an expanding and a compressive motion ... inhale and exhale. Now her rotation is slowing down and she is expanding a bit, she is loosening up ... movement towards a momentum of reverse. Just like the toy that is at the end of its spinn. The earth is warming up in this motion (like I explained before). And like a pendular the swing will reverse to the other side when the strech is beyond a point, and then the movement will be slowly move towards compression and more presure from above the surface squeezing the earth slowly tighter and tighter again like a grapefruit.

In this state of compressive motion, the amounth of water will not rise much, coz the water will also be sucked into the earth's holes again (coz hot liquids and gasses cool of and vent away, become caves in which water can hide or circulate though earths VEINS that are linked all under the surface. The water (and other liquids) will be tracked towards the core again, coz with the speeding up of the rotation the gravity will become stronger.



- "Think of adding 100 feet worth of water to the whole earth" :
Think of drinking a 100 glasses of water in a week ... will that make you grow in size ?
Our body will use what is needed and will transport to the outside what is to much. So will the Earth, in my opinion.
More water would/could lead to more humidity, combined in this momentum of heating up, it could lead to more and bigger plants and less places of drought ... just like in a farmers cultivationhouse ;) Bigger plants would need the extra amounth of water ... Life adapts. Earth is a balanced organism, that can fluctuate between certain limits.


-"some areas currently land would get from 0 to over 100 feet of water over them, while the remaining land area would be reduced."
No, sorry.
If some land will get a 100 feet of water on it, the presure on it will change and will result in the uplifting of land elsewhere .. land will uplift from what has been below the water, or dry land will uplift to become mountains.
There could be a small reduction or even an increase in land, but still between certain boundries ... the balance has to be between certain lines. Liquids and mass are in states of balance.

That MOVIE "Waterworld" was just a "movie" based on a thought and doom-script. That movie was not based on science.
A piece was taken and exagerated : the flood from the bible > what would happen when the whole world would be flooded. Besides, many movies are tied in to political agendapoints ... so was this one. ;)

- "Continents fit":
..lol... yeah when we remove alll the water, it all fits togetter like a skull hahahaha ...
Some parts do FIT, coz they were RUPTURED, but other parts above the water will never FIT coz the were pushed up and created, or/and even parts could never fit again coz some of the land was turned like we turn a page in a book ... burrying what once was under tons of landmass and turning it into fossils and stones.


-"when the earth was smaller" :
I personally dont really believe that the earth was MUCH smaller, just like I dont believe that the moon is curently shrinking.
I do believe and see the logic in an expansion and contraction/compression related to the spinning-speed and rotational fase.

Some aspects in space are now influencing the Earth as well,
push and pull factors of the nearing 2nd sun (brown dwarf and satellites, including Nibiru), and of the magnetic ribbon , and as well the sector we are traveling trough momentarely 'the photon belt' ... are all adding to the motion and expansion of the Earth.

So for me the smaller becomming and bigger becomming of the Earth is like a natural fase, like breathing IN and OUT, its an everlasting returning mechanism ... but it will not exeed certain limits, coz that would rupture the viscosity and the balance. That could result in an explosion or implosion of the core and surface.
(And that implosion is what some scientists are afraid of what could be a result of experimenting with the LHC and CERN, when the earth could shrink /implode to a tiny cold pulsar star with freezing temperatures ... >>> the ice-9 reaction <<<
- [link to www.cerntruth.com]
- [link to www.google.nl]


- "are you arguing that there will not be a big die-off?"
Yes there will be momentes of big-die-offs. But just like BHD thinks in his post below, there will always be surviving species.
Many changes occur gradualy, so that every organism has time to adapt to certain changes. Some changes will be instantly and drastic and that will kill many species of humans and animals.

When adaptations to gradual changes are succesfull they are incorperated in our biological feedbacksystem and in our DNA. Coz we are made of the same DNA that Earth is composed of, if she will change ... we will change. Like said before we have a simbiotic nature and relationship with the Earth, and through her with the sun and other similar systems in the univers. We are a kind of collective organism. We have the ability to move in unity like a flock of flying birds making synchroneous movements, but we also have the ability to act individualy ... and with that/doing so, carry the responsability of the changes we set into motion. (which can be destructive or upgrading according to our decisions).

In this context I would say, that if we align with the changes that Mother Earth and the Sun are going through, we will be more succesfull as a species and will enhance our biological feedbacksystem.
With every change in biology or energetical nature, there will be die-offs. Simply coz not everyone -at this point- is strong enough or able to incorperate what is needed. Those who die before incorperation, will be of great use and importance, coz they will tell the blueprints of life which way NOT to go again.

The stronger we grow in our own knowing of how our system work and what lies in our reach of accomplishment, the less people or animals will have to die-off for the surviving species. If we learn to adapt to the changes that occur and "WORK in accordance" (a harmonic dance) we learn how to HELP the Earth and the events, we learn how to master in responsability and harmonical balance.
This is a big SOMETHING why TPTB want us out of the loop to what is happening to and around the world/earth. The more we are disconnected and not concerned, the less influence we have as a WHOLE, as a UNITY ( U & I-ty *tied togetter*).
Once we will become a consciousness whitin and around, they will loose their power over us....

The more we unite, the less cathastrophical events have to occur ...

xx MzK




Hi Oniongrass, hi MzK. I reckon there is a lot more in common with both yr thinking.

With the increase in water, remember that in Earth expansion, there is more surface area for that same water to be on, so a re-distribution would be more likely, rather than a flooding exercise. Well, imho anyway!

If the stretching, growing of the Earth occurs, then depending on what's going on below, (and that's up to Mother Earth!) then under sea mountains, may actually become islands once the surface/volume has increased. Conversely, where there was land, may now be under water, as the stretching has resulted in a drop at that point on the Earth; any drop being filled with water if there is a link to the sea, or filled in time with fresh water.

I could see die offs, but not necessarily massive die offs, or complete extinctions. Mankind has spread out our cultures and the animal populations such that some would survive at some point, somewhere.

Re-distribution of the surface, and shifting on the current continents and possibly new ones/islands fits in to my thinking on many legends of old. (inc. biblical)

But, I am happy to change direction as new ideas and information comes to hand. At the end of the day, I reckon the 'answer' to all of it is more wierd and wonderful than we can even imagine. Silly statement I know, but history shows us this over and over as we grasp just a little bit more of what we are, where we are and why.

That was all a bit vague wasnt it? Meh...
 Quoting: BadHairDay




Hi BHD,
I like the re-distribution idea :)
Not vague at all, just in the line of my logic and thoughts :P
But then again, maybe I am VAGUE tooo hahahahaha ...
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Even the Russians are concerned:

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Thanks ISIS and BHD.

Here is some new news not being mainstreamed.
(nothing new about that)

With this info I think about ISIS and her Sea level map.

The Intercoastal Waterways and More so than ever, the inner State water ways and canals are rising in areas of Florida.

In as little as the past 20 days, the over all level of increase is 1.5 to 7.0 inches. Yes "7" !

I have personally notice a change, so I set out to a river I am partial to fishing in, and behold, at my favorite fishing spot the water was much higher. There is a few logs in the area that lay ontop of the water over hung from the shore and mangroves, alligators love to sun on them. It appeared about 5 inches or more submerged than normal. Now keep in mind, the tides have no effect on this area, our rain had been min. Even the heaviest of rains barely affects the level in this area.

Florida in this region is like a floating Island and the only thing that that comes to mind is pressure from underside of it all. The lower mass possibly compressing the water table between the upper mass. None the less its is higher than normal. So I visited a few other canal spots and found the same likes. Asked a few buddies that reside along a couple other waterways, and the confirmed it was higher.

So, the news I got on this prior to, I verified first hand as well. Researching this yielded the normal info you'd usually get and there is an abundance of data to sift through. I got burned out doing so. I'll take first hand experience and no scientific measuring equipment and resign to the idea that yes indeed it is rising and has risen.

Is this becoming an issue in other areas and or States ? Other countries ?

ISIS is a fantastic data miner, Maybe she can dig up some hidden facts.

You folks take care now you hear.
Hope to catch up again soon.

Wood
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With this info I think about ISIS and her Sea level map.

The Intercoastal Waterways and More so than ever, the inner State water ways and canals are rising in areas of Florida.

In as little as the past 20 days, the over all level of increase is 1.5 to 7.0 inches. Yes "7" !



Is this becoming an issue in other areas and or States ? Other countries ?


Wood
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Perhaps it is....
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Scientists say rise in Mediterranean sea-level accelerating
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February 26, 2011 – SPAIN – “The sea level in the Mediterranean has risen by between 1 and 1.5 millimeters each year since 1943, but this does not seem set to continue, because it now seems that the speed at which it rises is accelerating”

High tide destroys 400 homes along coast of Angola
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Nova Scotia coastal town hit by storm from hell
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Auckland beach sinks under usually high tide and rain
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A lil sumthin speical for the bezerker's from my heart and soul to you and yours in love and light for all eternity.

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This crooked old spine
With a cane in his hand
Is taking his shoes for a walk
He still marches in time
From his days in the band
He listens to the moon and the stars
There's a knife in his back
That keeps the blood from running out
He says it's been there for years
He laugh when he cries
He's got a crooked old spine
He drinks a wine made of tears

Don't Forget the Sky

This crooked old spine
Once had a love
Who moved the heavens above
He prays to the wind
And Reaches under his skin
And offers his heart to the sun
There's a knife in his back
That keeps the blood from running out
He says it's been there for years
He's wait'in for the day
At the end of the night
When the sun burns away all his fears

Don't Forget the Sky

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"Dolphins are the new canary-corexit use continues"


Dolphins continue to die in the gulf. If corexit use continues dolphins will cease to exist, not to mention what it is doing to humans.

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"These animals are top of the food chain. They're mammals like you and I. They give birth to babies and are given milk, so they are good biological indicators of the environment. So ultimately, what happens to them will happen to us. So basically, they are the canary in the mine."




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That's assuming the increase in volume of the planet is uniform, and happens uniformly in an instant, or over a period of time.

What if the growth is localised and fast? Making an egg shape for simplicities sake, which then over time, as centrifugal forces act on it, settles in to a more spheroid shape.

The growth may not be uniform at all, so if it happened at the deepest point of the Earth, the total water depth would reduce wouldnt it?

Dont you just love thinking about this stuff!!??
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The earth is actually quite oddly shaped: [link to prenerk.wordpress.com]

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