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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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The sun and radioactive elements


* The Sun Alters Radioactive Decay Rates
[link to creationrevolution.com]

"The conclusion was that something from the sun must be affecting the decay rates, and researchers suspect that solar neutrinos may be the cause.

Peter Sturrock, a Stanford physicist and expert on the sun’s core, reviewed several technical papers that showed these odd correlations between the sun and radioactive systems. He knew that the sun’s core rotates at a regular rate and has a “face” side that emits neutrinos more intensely. When the core’s face swings around and is aimed at the earth, then the earth receives a more concentrated neutrino blast.

Sturrock found that every 33 days, when that part of the solar core faces earth, there is a corresponding change in the decay rate of radioactive materials.

These data have mystified physicists for more than one reason. For instance, there is no known theory to explain how or why neutrinos, which travelled through the entire earth before they struck and altered the rates of radioactive samples at night, would interact with atomic nuclei. “It’s an effect that no one yet understands,” Sturrock said in a university report.2 Some physicists have proposed that the sun may be emitting an as-yet-unknown particle to cause this effect.

But the fluctuating rates also fly in the face of the bedrock assumption that nuclear decay rates are constant. Sturrock said, “Everyone thought it must be due to experimental mistakes, because we’re all brought up to believe that decay rates are constant.”2 Some say the fluctuation is due to a computer glitch, but such speculation fails to account for the match between two separate patterns of earth-sun interaction–seasons and solar core rotations.

If the assumption of a constant rate is incorrect, then conclusions built upon that assumption are suspect, including certain dates assigned to artifacts and earth materials."





* Stanford Report, August 23, 2010
The strange case of solar flares and radioactive elements
[link to news.stanford.edu]

"Checking data collected at Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island and the Federal Physical and Technical Institute in Germany, they came across something even more surprising: long-term observation of the decay rate of silicon-32 and radium-226 seemed to show a small seasonal variation. The decay rate was ever so slightly faster in winter than in summer.

Was this fluctuation real, or was it merely a glitch in the equipment used to measure the decay, induced by the change of seasons, with the accompanying changes in temperature and humidity?

"Everyone thought it must be due to experimental mistakes, because we're all brought up to believe that decay rates are constant," Sturrock said.

The sun speaks
On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare.

If this apparent relationship between flares and decay rates proves true, it could lead to a method of predicting solar flares prior to their occurrence, which could help prevent damage to satellites and electric grids, as well as save the lives of astronauts in space.

...

Their findings strengthened the argument that the strange swings in decay rates were caused by neutrinos from the sun. The swings seemed to be in synch with the Earth's elliptical orbit, with the decay rates oscillating as the Earth came closer to the sun (where it would be exposed to more neutrinos) and then moving away.

...

Going back to take another look at the decay data from the Brookhaven lab, the researchers found a recurring pattern of 33 days. It was a bit of a surprise, given that most solar observations show a pattern of about 28 days – the rotation rate of the surface of the sun.

The explanation? The core of the sun – where nuclear reactions produce neutrinos – apparently spins more slowly than the surface we see.

All of the evidence points toward a conclusion that the sun is "communicating" with radioactive isotopes on Earth, said Fischbach.


...

If the mystery particle is not a neutrino, "It would have to be something we don't know about, an unknown particle that is also emitted by the sun and has this effect, and that would be even more remarkable," Sturrock said."



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>>> Now what could this mean for the radioactive particles released into the Earth now ? And their decay, while the sun is turning up its volume and array ????

>>> And what/how could those radioactivity eating mushrooms be related to this ?

>>> And how play all those CERN-labs into this, who are working with neutrino's and oscillations ? And the recent problems and fires in those labs ????



* Potassium
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

-"IsotopesMain article: isotopes of potassium
There are 24 known isotopes of potassium. Three isotopes occur naturally: 39K (93.3%), 40K (0.0117%) and 41K (6.7%). Naturally occurring 40K decays to stable 40Ar (11.2% of decays) by electron capture or positron emission, or decays to stable 40Ca (88.8% of decays) by beta decay; 40K has a half-life of 1.250×109 years. The decay of 40K to 40Ar enables a commonly used method for dating rocks. The conventional K-Ar dating method depends on the assumption that the rocks contained no argon at the time of formation and that all the subsequent radiogenic argon (i.e., 40Ar) was quantitatively retained. Minerals are dated by measurement of the concentration of potassium and the amount of radiogenic 40Ar that has accumulated. The minerals that are best suited for dating include biotite, muscovite, plutonic/high grade metamorphic hornblende, and volcanic feldspar; whole rock samples from volcanic flows and shallow instrusives can also be dated if they are unaltered.

Outside of dating, potassium isotopes have been used extensively as tracers in studies of weathering. They have also been used for nutrient cycling studies because potassium is a macronutrient required for life.

40K occurs in natural potassium (and thus in some commercial salt substitutes) in sufficient quantity that large bags of those substitutes can be used as a radioactive source for classroom demonstrations. In healthy animals and people, 40K represents the largest source of radioactivity, greater even than 14C. In a human body of 70 kg mass, about 4,400 nuclei of 40K decay per second.[12] The activity of natural potassium is 31 Bq/g.
...

Potassium cations are important in neuron (brain and nerve) function, and in influencing osmotic balance between cells and the interstitial fluid, with their distribution mediated in all animals (but not in all plants) by the so-called Na+/K+-ATPase pump.[14] This ion pump uses ATP to pump 3 sodium ions out of the cell and 2 potassium ions into the cell, thus creating an electrochemical gradient over the cell membrane."


>>> What if that principal would also occur in the Earth ???
Interresting !
We posted and talked about potassium just recently here on the thread .....
So, think BIG and connect body and Earth ...


-"Potassium may be detected by taste because it triggers three of the five types of taste sensations, according to concentration. Dilute solutions of potassium ion taste sweet (allowing moderate concentrations in milk and juices), while higher concentrations become increasingly bitter/alkaline, and finally also salty to the taste. The combined bitterness and saltiness of high potassium content solutions makes high-dose potassium supplementation by liquid drinks a palatability challenge.

...

A shortage of potassium in body fluids may cause a potentially fatal condition known as hypokalemia, typically resulting from vomiting, diarrhea, and/or increased diuresis. Deficiency symptoms include muscle weakness, paralytic ileus, ECG abnormalities, decreased reflex response and in severe cases respiratory paralysis, alkalosis and cardiac arrhythmia.

...

Potassium is an essential mineral micronutrient in human nutrition; it is the major cation (positive ion) inside animal cells, and it is thus important in maintaining fluid and electrolyte balance in the body. Sodium makes up most of the cations of blood plasma at a reference range of about 145 milliequivalents per liter (3.345 grams) and potassium makes up most of the cell fluid cations at about 150 milliequivalents per liter (4.8 grams). Plasma is filtered through the glomerulus of the kidneys in enormous amounts, about 180 liters per day.[18] Thus 602 grams of sodium and 33 grams of potassium are filtered each day."


>>> 33 AGAIN !


-. "Potassium cyanide KCN is used industrially to dissolve copper and precious metals particularly silver and gold by forming complexes; applications include gold mining, electroplating and electroforming of these metals.

- Potassium fluorosilicate (K2SiF6) is used in specialized glasses, ceramics, and enamels. Potassium sodium tartrate, or Rochelle salt (KNaC4H4O6) is used in the silvering of mirrors."


>>> And maybe for the ceramic canisters ????


- "The superoxide KO2 is an orange-colored solid used as a portable source of oxygen and as a carbon dioxide absorber. It is useful in portable respiration systems. It is widely used in submarines and spacecraft as it takes less volume than O2 (g)."

...

-"Potassium reacts violently in the presence of halogens and will detonate in the presence of bromine. It also reacts explosively with sulfuric acid. During combustion potassium forms peroxides and superoxides. These peroxides may react violently with organics present such as oils. Both peroxides and superoxides may react explosively with metallic potassium.[37]

Since potassium reacts with water vapor present in the air, it is usually stored under anhydrous mineral oil or kerosene. Unlike lithium and sodium, however, potassium should not be stored under oil indefinitely. If stored longer than 6 months to a year, dangerous shock-sensitive peroxides can form on the metal and under the lid of the container, which can detonate upon opening. It is recommended that potassium not be stored for longer than three months unless stored in an inert (oxygen free) atmosphere, or under vacuum.[38]"



>>> Hmmm BHD : "kerosene" .... Antarctica.

>>> hmmm ... dangerous shock-sensitive peroxides ... can detonate upon opening .... how convenient (if stored longer then that period in places where events are WANTED to happen, but look natural .... hmmmmm ....




* Potassium and neutrino's from the sun :

Solving the Solar Neutrino Problem - by Ricky Leon Murphy:

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

"What the future holds:
Other elements are believed to be even more sensitive in detecting neutrinos. While such telescopes are yet to be constructed, Iridium, Lithium, and Potassium-Hydroxide are thought to provide a more sensitive media, but cost and availability could hinder such projects (Kitchin, page 155 to 157). So far, our current ability to detect neutrinos is only possible from the Sun, supernova, failed supernovae, and know Gamma-Ray Bursts (GRB’s).

Since neutrino oscillation has presented itself, one future project bear mentioning. A worldwide collaboration project is in the design phases. Laboratories in France, Germany, Italy, Russia, Japan, and the United State are working on the LENS project, or Low Energy Neutrino Spectroscopy. This detector will be using the following reaction [R11]:

νe + 176Yb to 176Lu* + e-

then to 176Lu + g

It is thought that this reaction is stable enough to allow real-time analysis of a neutrino. The sensitivity of this detector will allow the study of the least energetic neutrino, the ones from the initial P-P chain [R11]."






* ??? FUKUSHIMA & neutrino's ??? and the sun ???


IceCube In Ice Antarctic Telescope » Journals
[link to www.polartrec.net]

"This morning, Jim Madsen, physics professor and IceCube researcher from the University of Wisconsin-River Falls, arrived to the PolarTREC training. I and the other KSTF Fellows spoke with Jim at length about the project, including expectations and our roles as PolarTREC teachers. Jim enlightened us about the nature of neutrinos and how the IceCube detector works to detect them. We had a lot of questions for Jim about neutrinos and how we can study them!

...

Neutrinos can be created due to radioactive decay of elements like potassium. Nuclear reactors and bombs can create neutrinos; the sun and other stars create neutrinos. But these are "low" energy neutrinos, not what IceCube is trying to detect. IceCube is looking for high energy neutrinos created in "cataclysmic" galactic events, such as collisions of black holes and perhaps mysterious events called gamma-ray bursts."




>>> Could there be a reason for the troubles at the nuclear plants that we -simple people- do not understand,
and that is related to the changes in the sun ??

>>> What does more radioactive particles do to the sun FTE (Flux Transfer Event) ????
(maybe we could look towards changes in the sun before and after Chernobyl ... to understand a possible connection between Fukushims and the sun ...)

>>> And again : does all the saltmining fit into this ? Potassium mining ?

>>> ICECUBE ???? POLAR-TREC ???? .... This is NO coincedence !!!
Just a few posts back AC and BHD spoke about how and if ICE could store/contain frequencies !!! ICE-CUBE !!!!


"• On the extremely rare instance when a neutrino hits the nucleus of an atom, it ends up creating a new charged particle which flies through the ice at very high speeds. As this new particle moves though the ice, it causes a dim trail of light called "Cherenkov radiation."
this light is detected by hundreds of sensors buried deep in the ice. The scientists use data from the sensors to determine the energy of the original neutrino, and the direction from which it came."




Cherenkov radiation :
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"As a charged particle travels, it disrupts the local electromagnetic field (EM) in its medium. Electrons in the atoms of the medium will be displaced, and the atoms become polarized by the passing EM field of a charged particle. Photons are emitted as an insulator's electrons restore themselves to equilibrium after the disruption has passed. (In a conductor, the EM disruption can be restored without emitting a photon.) In normal circumstances, these photons destructively interfere with each other and no radiation is detected. However, when a disruption which travels faster than light is propagating through the medium, the photons constructively interfere and intensify the observed radiation."

>>> For a quick moment I had to think about OP's "splashzones" ....
This explains why the dont have to occur only in WATER, but also (assumably) happened in Greenland on the ICE, and on/in soil in OZ ... and potentially everywhere.


"Nuclear reactors
Cherenkov radiation is used to detect high-energy charged particles. In pool-type nuclear reactors, the intensity of Cherenkov radiation is related to the frequency of the fission events that produce high-energy electrons, and hence is a measure of the intensity of the reaction. Similarly, Cherenkov radiation is used to characterize the remaining radioactivity of spent fuel rods.

Astrophysics experiments
When a high-energy (TeV) gamma photon or cosmic ray interacts with the Earth's atmosphere, it may produce an electron-positron pair with enormous velocities. The Cherenkov radiation from these charged particles is used to determine the source and intensity of the cosmic ray, which is used for example in the Imaging Atmospheric Cherenkov Technique (IACT), by experiments such as VERITAS, H.E.S.S., and MAGIC. Similar methods are used in very large neutrino detectors, such as the Super-Kamiokande, the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory (SNO) and IceCube. In the Pierre Auger Observatory and other similar projects tanks filled with water observe the Cherenkov radiation caused by muons, electrons and positrons of particle showers which are caused by cosmic rays.

Cherenkov radiation can also be used to determine properties of high-energy astronomical objects that emit gamma rays, such as supernova remnants and blazars. This is done by projects such as STACEE, a gamma ray detector in New Mexico.

...

The most advanced type of a detector is the RICH, or ring imaging Cherenkov detector, developed in the 1980s. In a RICH detector, a cone of Cherenkov light is produced when a high speed charged particle traverses a suitable gaseous or liquid medium, often called radiator. This light cone is detected on a position sensitive planar photon detector, which allows reconstructing a ring or disc, the radius of which is a measure for the Cherenkov emission angle. Both focusing and proximity-focusing detectors are in use. In a focusing RICH detector, the photons are collected by a spherical mirror and focused onto the photon detector placed at the focal plane. The result is a circle with a radius independent of the emission point along the particle track. This scheme is suitable for low refractive index radiators—i.e. gases—due to the larger radiator length needed to create enough photons. In the more compact proximity-focusing design, a thin radiator volume emits a cone of Cherenkov light which traverses a small distance—the proximity gap—and is detected on the photon detector plane. The image is a ring of light, the radius of which is defined by the Cherenkov emission angle and the proximity gap. The ring thickness is determined by the thickness of the radiator. An example of a proximity gap RICH detector is the High Momentum Particle Identification Detector (HMPID),[5] a detector currently under construction for ALICE (A Large Ion Collider Experiment), one of the six experiments at the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) at CERN."





*INTERSTING:

PROJECT X :

SLAC to Leverage Accelerator Expertise for Project X
February 24, 2011
[link to today.slac.stanford.edu]

This month, SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory officially received a funding package of $400,000 from Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory for research and development on a radio-frequency power system for the proposed proton accelerator, Project X, at Fermilab.
...
The Project X facility would fuel two experiments: a high-intensity neutrino beam traveling more than 800 miles to a detector at the proposed Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory, and a proton beam that will support rare-decay experiments. Fermilab has officially formed the Project X Collaboration and has plans to apply for the first major step for any Department of Energy project, Critical Decision 0, to establish the scientific case to move the project forward.

((Located 45 miles west of Chicago, Fermilab's particle accelerator complex provides beam to particle physics experiments, test facilities and a cancer treatment center. The proposed Project X would replace the 40-year-old linear accelerator and booster ring.))






The possible potassium earth core:

* Taking a Picture of the Earth's Interior with Geoneutrinos
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

"Neutrinos are subatomic particles created in certain types of nuclear decays. These ghostly particles have no electric charge, a tiny but nonzero mass, and are very weakly interacting. A typical neutrino passes through matter unseen, unfelt, and unperturbed. Indeed, each second of the day and night, many billions of neutrinos pass through you harmlessly; these neutrinos originate mostly from the Sun, but also from the Earth's atmosphere, and from the interior of the Earth. These last "geoneutrinos" have received a great deal of attention lately, and open up new views onto the Earth.

Geoneutrinos are produced in the decays of unstable, radioactive elements--mostly uranium, thorium, and potassium (40K)--inside the Earth. These same decays also generate heat, which makes up some portion (thought to be about 60%) of the geothermal heat flow. The amount of geoneutrinos (and radioactive geothermal heat) depends on the amount of radioactive material through the Earth. We do know very well the amount and distribution of radioactive material in the Earth's thin crust. However, we have only "scratched the surface" of the Earth with direct measurements: the deepest probes that have been recovered from drill holes in the earth's crust come from a depth of only about 10 km, and volcanos bring up mantle material from a depth of a few hundred kilometers. So most of the earth's interior is hidden! Consequently, it remains unclear how much radioactive material is in the inside the bulk of the earth and where it is located. In particular, it is unclear how abundant radioactive elements are in the very core of the Earth. The standard geophysical prediction is that the core is void of all radioactivity. Recently, however, there have been some suggestions that there may be a significant amount of potassium in the Earth's core. These uncertainties about the Earth's radioactive content translate into uncertainties about the amount of geothermal heat and geoneutrinos that are generated by radioactive decays. Thus, measurements of geoneutrinos can address these questions and ultimately determine the nature of the radioactive earth.

Recently the Kamland experiment, which was primarily designed to measure anti-neutrinos from nuclear reactors, reported 9 events due to geoneutrinos. This marks the first detection of neutrinos from the Earth's interior, and already demonstrates that radioactivity is an important heat source for the Earth. This promising discovery gave rise to several papers about the possibilities a measurement of geoneutrinos could provide. "



>>> 9 EVENTS ??? again ...





With the information above, I now recap my questions :

>>> Now what could this mean for the radioactive particles released into the Earth now ? And their decay, while the sun is turning up its volume and array ????

>>> And what/how could those radioactivity eating mushrooms be related to this ?

>>> And how play all those CERN-labs into this, who are working with neutrino's and oscillations ? And the recent problems and fires in those labs ????



(Potassium cations are important in neuron (brain and nerve) function, and in influencing osmotic balance between cells and the interstitial fluid, (snip) creating an electrochemical gradient over the cell membrane.")

>>> What if that principal ^^^ would also occur in the Earth ???
Interresting !
We posted and talked about potassium just recently here on the thread .....
So, think BIG and connect body and Earth ...

(seems like it does in a way.... lol...)

>>> Could there be a reason for the troubles at the nuclear plants that we -simple people- do not understand,
and that is related to the changes in the sun ??

>>> What does more radioactive particles do to the sun FTE (Flux Transfer Event) ????
(maybe we could look towards changes in the sun before and after Chernobyl ... to understand a possible connection between Fukushims and the sun ...)

>>> And again : does all the saltmining fit into this ? Potassium mining ?


>>> For a quick moment I had to think about OP's "splashzones" ....
This explains why the dont have to occur only in WATER, but also (assumably) happened in Greenland on the ICE, and on/in soil in OZ ... and potentially everywhere.


I SAY bump



xxx MzK

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BEZERKERS, comments please on the following report about the breakup of Antarctica ice causing a reduction of CO2:

"A team of NSF-funded scientists examined the effects on an area of the Weddell Sea of a large (20 mile long) berg moving through, melting as it went and diluting the salty sea water – also adding key nutrients carried from the land. They found that after the iceberg had passed, levels of CO2 had plunged and much more chlorophyll was present. Chlorophyll is the substance in green plants which lets them suck in nasty CO2 and emit precious life-giving oxygen: in the Weddell Sea it was present in phytoplankton, tiny seagoing plantoids which are thought to account for half the carbon removed from the atmosphere globally.

The scientists say that more and more icebergs are set to be found in the seas around the Anatarctic as more ice breaks off the shelves attached to the peninsula which reaches up from the polar continent towards South America. This should mean more phytoplankton and thus less CO2."

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Trying to understand relations (if any) between Chernobyl, Fukushima and suncycles ...
(also the 1979 accident at the Three Mile Island, 7 years before Chernobyl, and 32 before Japan)
(damn almost 33...)


- 1957-1958 was a max also.

("The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958. That was a solar maximum. The Space Age was just beginning: Sputnik was launched in Oct. 1957 and Explorer 1 (the first US satellite) in Jan. 1958.")



-Atmospheric deposition of cosmogenic 7Be and 137Cs from fallout of the Chernobyl accident.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


-In 1986 comet Hallye was closest to earth ... now we have Elenin ...
There was a lunar eclipse the night before ... we had The SuperMoon !



"Solar physicist David Hathaway of the National Space Science & Technology Center (NSSTC) explains: "First, remember what sunspots are- tangled knots of magnetism generated by the sun's inner dynamo. A typical sunspot exists for just a few weeks. Then it decays, leaving behind a 'corpse' of weak magnetic fields." Enter the conveyor belt. "The top of the conveyor belt skims the surface of the sun, sweeping up the magnetic fields of old, dead sunspots. The 'corpses' are dragged down at the poles to a depth of 200,000 km where the sun's magnetic dynamo can amplify them. Once the corpses (magnetic knots) are reincarnated (amplified), they become buoyant and float back to the surface." Presto—new sunspots!

All this happens with massive slowness. "It takes about 40 years for the belt to complete one loop," says Hathaway. The speed varies "anywhere from a 50-year pace (slow) to a 30-year pace (fast)." When the belt is turning "fast," it means that lots of magnetic fields are being swept up, and that a future sunspot cycle is going to be intense. This is a basis for forecasting: "The belt was turning fast in 1986-1996," says Hathaway. "Old magnetic fields swept up then should re-appear as big sunspots in 2010-2011."

Like most experts in the field, Hathaway has confidence in the conveyor belt model and agrees with Dikpati that the next solar maximum should be a doozy. But he disagrees with one point. Dikpati's forecast puts Solar Max at 2012. Hathaway believes it will arrive sooner, in 2010 or 2011. "History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007—and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."


- [link to science.nasa.gov]




There must be more data to find ....
we will keep on digging.


XX MzK



Edit add:

Found this page : [link to blog.2012pro.com]


Comparative Periods in Recent Cycles:
Cycle 19 started Apr 1954 +23mths = March 1956 flux max 175 min 145
Cycle 20 started Oct 1964 +23mths = September 1966 flux max 146 min 89
Cycle 21 started Jun 1976 +23mths = May 1978 flux max 183 min 130
Cycle 22 started Sep 1986 +23mths = August 1988 flux max 195 min 115
Cycle 23 started May 1996 +23mths = April 1998 flux max 142 min 89
Cycle 24 started Dec 2008 +23mths = November 2010 flux max 92 min 78 (to date)


Cycle 21 : 3 miles island
Cycle 22 : Chernobyl
Cycle 24 : Fukushima

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Mighty Oaks (1986)

In April 1986, just before the Chernobyl disaster, the US had a failed hydrogen test at the Nevada Test Site called Mighty Oaks. This test, conducted far underground, consisted of a hydrogen bomb explosion in one chamber, with a leaded steel door to the chamber, two metres thick, closing within milliseconds of the blast. The door was to allow only the first radioactive beam to escape into the "control room" in which expensive instrumentation was located. The radiation was to be captured as a weapon beam. The door failed to close as quickly as planned, causing the radioactive gases and debris to fill the control room, destroying millions of dollars worth of equipment. The experiment was part of a program to develop X-ray and particle beam weapons. The radioactive releases from Mighty Oaks were vented, under a "licensed venting", and were likely responsible for many of the North American nuclear fallout reports in May 1986, which were attributed to the Chernobyl disaster.

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This answers the questions why the sudden radiation spikes ...
Maybe the recent spikes everywhere are also not ONLY from Fukushima ???
And related to the several new EXPERIMENTS they are conducting under the ground these days !

History tends to repeat itself !!!!

xxx MzK
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I think you nailed it MzK with that last statement.

The whole Japan saga was used to cover many things I think, and keep focus away from the real issues.

In no way am I saying the incidents in Japan were trivial, and not real issues. Just sayin that the reactor issue most notably seems to be a cover for something else. Surely these plants cant be that badly design.

Maybe there are other incidents and experiments gone awry, and this is a perfect cover.

Japan seems to be a willing participant when other countries and entities 'call in their markers'. The 1986(?)asian financial crisis was one such marker called in by the US Fed Reserve, and had a cascade effect right throughout Asia. This could be another pennance towards forgiving some debt?
It's all about the 'vibe'
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Re: AMAZING ANAMOLY IN THE SKY! WHAT IS THIS????
Thread: AMAZING ANAMOLY IN THE SKY! WHAT IS THIS????

It doesn't get interesting until about 2:13, before then the guy is describing the area with Google Earth.

WATCH TO THE END! I guarantee you this video WILL be pulled because of the undeniable proof it contains!!




 Quoting: mushydoll



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Another thread about it !

Re: Another blue spiral seen in Russia
Thread: Another blue spiral seen in Russia

like New Zealand...




 Quoting: Stu


Re: Another blue spiral seen in Russia

[link to www2.ph.ed.ac.uk]
 Quoting: Neutron Star 1328702



Re: Another blue spiral seen in Russia



Pay attention to this video Note what you start to see at 32 seconds into the video.

Think about the Haldron Collider.

All these so called "UFO'S" are what you see in this video

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328702


LHC creating "UNSTABLE" non lasting mini-blackholes ???? scratching
They (some scientists) predicted that would happen ...
[link to www.cerntruth.com]
And remember the last posts -above, other post- I made about the newer experiments they are conducting in CERN-labs and LHC-kins of labs .... The results of neutrino experiments ?
Could the above anomalies in the vids be mini-blackholes ?
Or maybe some other experiment that they (TPTB) are conducting ?

FREAKY.


An other interresting post:


Re: Another blue spiral seen in Russia


Posted this on the sky anomolie post-
Ill put it here too.

What you are looking at is Haarp-like activity.
You are looking at a cross-section of this signal....

Goto 2:20


This IS the cause of the spirals, but you're going to have to look into it yourself.

"obviously they're related to the aurora borealis phenomenon"
HAARP. The following page will show you more than you need to know about Haarp and EISCAT CREATING AURORAS. Isn't anyone read up on HAARP?

Here's a guy who works on projects, let him show you.

[link to www.mikekosch.com]
Mike says...
I currently run projects at the following locations:

EISCAT (Norway), with VHF radar (224 MHz, 120x40m) and UHF radar (930 MHz, 32m)

PFISR (450 MHz) and HAARP (3-10 MHz) in Alaska

Sura (4.5-9.3 MHz) in Russia

Videos on his page...


Red-line (630 nm) artificial aurora from EISCAT (2MB, speeded up)

Green-line (557.7) artificial aurora from EISCAT (4MB, speeded up) (removed)

Real-colour artificial aurora from HAARP (4MB, speeded up). Stars appear yellow, natural aurora appaears green, artificial auroral appears red, and the bright horizon is due to twilight. (removed)

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More about CERN-truth:

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I told you all this would happen about this spring. More and more wormholes!!!!!! The real truth about cern lhc!!!!!!!
Hello strangelet anomalies????

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


Thread: ***Urgent** Alert** Breaking News####@ These Spirals are Phantom wormholes being caused by cern lhc!!*** (Page 4)

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Great post that also mentions Cherenkov radiation, just like I did in some posts above !!!
(freaky that I posted bout it this morning, and now this afternoon I find mention of it again in a totally different thread !!!)

Re: Another blue spiral seen in Russia

Sorry for last two failures to post this video.

Pay attention to this video Note what you start to see at 32 seconds into the video.

Think about the Haldron Collider.

All these so called "UFO'S" are what you see in this video
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Although the vid you show could have used any set of colors to display the phenomenon, it was electric blue like the one in Russia nd the one in Christchurch NZ. Strange that that is the same blue they show as nuetron beam and Cherenkov radiation.

The pics here look too purple to be electric blue:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ionizing radiation is the cause of blue glow surrounding sufficient quantities of strongly radioactive materials in air, e.g. some radioisotope specimens (e.g. radium or polonium), particle beams (e.g. from particle accelerators) in air, the blue flashes during criticality accidents, and the eerie glow enveloping the mushroom clouds during the first several dozen seconds after nuclear explosions. This blue light is often incorrectly attributed to Cherenkov radiation.
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Not Cerenkov but def ionization of nitrogen (blue) and also red in the NZ photos.

So DEFINITELY this is from an ionospheric heater lke HAARP or EISCAT

Norway spiral was 100% EISCAT heater putting on show for US CINC warmonger who was there to get Nobel Peace Prize (there's your REAL joke).

This is real, and these things are ominous IMO.

The people running the heaters are the evil military-industrial complex. Bad. VERY bad for us peons... Game almost over.

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Re: Another blue spiral seen in Russia

Can someone tell me which part of Russia this was seen in? I would like to compare the Latitude North of the Russia site to the Latitude South of the New Zeland site.

Thanks for the help, i can't read Russian.

 Quoting: Yoyoma 1167196


Its happened at Khanty-Mansiysk, Siberian city. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Dark matter ?


Re: AMAZING ANAMOLY IN THE SKY! WHAT IS THIS????

They have been mentioning "dark matter" frequently on MSM, and I've learned to pay attention to coincidence. Do you suppose these anomalies happening have anything to do with what they are calling "dark energy"?

Check out this image:
[link to cdn.physorg.com]

article here:
[link to www.physorg.com]

also these vids:


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I think you nailed it MzK with that last statement.

The whole Japan saga was used to cover many things I think, and keep focus away from the real issues.

In no way am I saying the incidents in Japan were trivial, and not real issues. Just sayin that the reactor issue most notably seems to be a cover for something else. Surely these plants cant be that badly design.

Maybe there are other incidents and experiments gone awry, and this is a perfect cover.

Japan seems to be a willing participant when other countries and entities 'call in their markers'. The 1986(?)asian financial crisis was one such marker called in by the US Fed Reserve, and had a cascade effect right throughout Asia. This could be another pennance towards forgiving some debt?
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Some recent chat:



<8:59>[Acolyte]: yebo peeps
<9:0>[E.]: Hi Aco
<9:0>[M.]: heya Aco
<9:0>[Acolyte]: hi E. & mM
<9:0>[Acolyte]: and Z. lol
<9:1>[M.]: hey aco, re the organism and incoming stuff from space ...
<9:1>[M.]: were they gamma ray bursts per chance?
<9:2>[Acolyte]: are you talking about the comunication rays?
<9:2>[M.]: yes
<9:2>[Acolyte]: then they not gamma
<9:2>[M.]: ok
<9:3>[Acolyte]: the other rays are
<9:3>[M.]: what were they?
<9:3>[Acolyte]: but the comm rays are difrent
<9:3>[Acolyte]: you gonna hate me
<9:4>[Acolyte]: i cant tell you waht the comm rays are
<9:4>[M.]: lol, that's ok, i didnt think you would be allowed to
<9:4>[M.]: but if there were GRBs, i think my brain would explode
<9:5>[M.]: so im glad you said they werent
<9:5>[Acolyte]: im playing dodgem with you when you start asking questions :)
<9:5>[M.]: lol Aco, im good where the boundaries are, just dont tell me stuff that you shouldnt
<9:5>[M.]: and dont feel bad when you cant tell stuff either
<9:6>[M.]: gamma ray bursts are v interesting
<9:6>[Acolyte]: yeah i know but me having to frequently say "i cant" sounds like a cliche or bad movie line
<9:6>[M.]: am exploring their connection with earthquakes
<9:6>[Acolyte]: ok
<9:6>[M.]: long bursts seem to be linked to two big quakes
<9:6>[M.]: lots of mystery about where grb's come from
<9:7>[M.]: but it is sort of accepted now, that they come from outside the milky way galaxy
<9:7>[E.]: hmmmmm. Very interesting. Possibly gravitrons then. neat
<9:7>[M.]: that's a v long way away, and we pick em up every day now
<9:7>[M.]: we've only been measuring them for a few years
<9:8>[Acolyte]: grb are reflections some say, but im not telling who is saying it
<9:8>[M.]: so hard to corroborate them to much
<9:8>[M.]: oooohh Aco - that's a juicy morsel, thank you
<9:8>[Acolyte]: lol
<9:9>[M.]: I’ve yet to check what the electric universe scientists think about grb's
<9:9>[M.]: their explanation will probably be most logical
<9:10>[Acolyte]: lol M. you quit the EQ fundi
<9:10>[Acolyte]: quite
<9:10>[M.]: only because the number of quakes on the pacific rim is getting scary Aco
<9:10>[Acolyte]: yes, the event
<9:10>[M.]: both in size and quantity
<9:11>[Acolyte]: i dont think we would be far wrong to think that the japan event was maybe one of the 9 events
<9:11>[M.]: lets put it this way, another long GRB is going to be my best predictor for a big quake incoming a few days later
<9:11>[M.]: which event tho - natural or nuclear
<9:11>[M.]: or two events in one maybe?
<9:12>[Acolyte]: geological
<9:12>[Acolyte]: then there is the trinity events
<9:12>[M.]: the number of aftershock quakes in Japan, is over 455 now
<9:12>[M.]: all size 5.0M or greater
<9:13>[Acolyte]: EQ+Tsunami/close moon/man
<9:13>[M.]: japan has had more size 6.0M quakes in the last 3 weeks, than it has had in the last 7 years combined
<9:13>[Acolyte]: yes its incredible, ongoing event
<9:13>[M.]: still happening every few hours there
<9:14>[Acolyte]: japna region is being liquified
<9:14>[M.]: contrast with the indonesian tsunami quake, which was 9.3M
<9:14>[M.]: its aftershock quakes were gone within weeks, and only about 25% in number
<9:15>[M.]: yes Aco, i would not be surprised to see Japan sinking after these continuous big aftershocks
<9:15>[M.]: sort of 'jiggling' itself into the crust
<9:15>[Acolyte]: or the ground/japan is beiny soften up for something to emerge from it
<9:15>[E.]: ulp
<9:15>[Acolyte]: lol and im not thinking godzilla ok
<9:16>[M.]: hahah
<9:17>[E.]: there are soooo many godzilla jokes lately.
<9:17>[E.]: lol
<9:17>[Acolyte]: i think you can say japn is now one massive splashzone
<9:17>[E.]: oh, crap
<9:17>[Acolyte]: Japan = highway then runway
<9:17>[M.]: well, the org certainly has got lots of heat energy there after those reactors have melted down
<9:19>[Acolyte]: the org is in may things now, not just the oil
<9:19>[M.]: those aliens said that the organism needs heat to thrive
<9:19>[Acolyte]: as we said from the start the oil was just a coveyor
<9:19>[M.]: so im thinking, what part of solar radiation gives it heat?
<9:19>[M.]: another hidden role for HAARP type facilities?
<9:19>[M.]: block off some of its food source?
<9:19>[M.]: plus corexit etc for other spots
<9:20>[Acolyte]: you should put the word "conveyor" some where in the back of your mind and work on it
<9:20>[M.]: conveyor currents
<9:20>[Acolyte]: i think so M.
<9:20>[M.]: they are alread going to be spreading radioactive material to the southern hemisphere
<9:20>[Acolyte]: conveyor for energy/heat ect.
<9:21>[M.]: warm currents - i c
<9:21>[Acolyte]: japan is massively being TERRAFROMED
<9:22>[M.]: u see that video clip of black stuff coming up through the ground in Japan?
<9:22>[E.]: first major eruption, then others?
<9:22>[M.]: right after the quake, in tokyo, in reclaimed grassland/park
<9:22>[Acolyte]: yes and in india and paragauy
<9:22>[M.]: paraguay - oh dear
<9:22>[E.]: The crud that eats concrete
<9:23>[E.]: stars fires to scrub trees
<9:23>[Acolyte]: you should add that "japan is being terraformed" in your briefcase thread mog
<9:23>[Acolyte]: its bluntly obvious
<9:24>[M.]: true
<9:29>[Acolyte]: heres something for you Eth:
<9:29>[Acolyte]: EQ to liquefy for terraFOAMING to result in terraforming
<9:29>[Acolyte]: yes it is mog
<9:29>[E.]: I'm already beginning to see that and how, aco.
<9:30>[E.]: looking at the ocean floor features on google earth now.
<9:30>[Acolyte]: good E., foaming things up
<9:30>[E.]: The scars are there from before, aren't they?
<9:30>[Acolyte]: M. is right, its an ongoing event
<9:31>[M.]: yes, this tectonic event is not over, every day they quake there
<9:31>[M.]: amazing stuff



<9:43>[E.]: facinating stuff, Aco
<9:44>[E.]: scary, but fascinating
<9:45>[E.]: terraforming for the next evolutionary step?
<9:45>[E.]: a precursor or a proginator? hmmm
<9:46>[Acolyte]: your choice E.
<9:46>[Acolyte]: lol I always like the way you describe things
<9:47>[E.]: yes, it seems like both.
<9:47>[E.]: LOL
<9:48>[Acolyte]: yes


<10:11>[E.]: Hmmmm. Been checking around. Pink Eye glow. Amazing. if a strong enough source of Ionizing radiation is directed at a melalin laden biological,
<10:11>[E.]: it can, under the right curcumstances, emit some light.
<10:12>[E.]: interestingly, That only implies that it be a broad application of radiation. If the radiation is modulated, and of only a certain type, like
<10:13>[E.]: x-rays, I wonder if the process could be promulgated.
<10:14>[E.]: So a radiation of some sort, with the proper signal modulation, could produce a pink eye glow. (cause from changing the energy state of the melalin
<10:14>[E.]: in the eyes for a short time.
<10:15>[E.]: Possibly. possibly
<10:15>[E.]: The other effect of the modulated radiation, which could be called a signal at this point,
<10:17>[E.]: Could it be something that could affect the telomerase, activating a section of it that the telomerase will resonate with,
<10:17>[E.]: and then activate dormant dna strands?
<10:18>[E.]: At this point, if the signal is sufficiently complex in it's encoding,
<10:18>[E.]: would it even be able to re-write the dna code and produce new sections?
<10:18>[E.]: Just speculating, folks
<10:21>[E.]: so what about augie?
<10:22>[E.]: If there is a signal like described by Aco, Thhen who is the signal for?
<10:22>[E.]: is it intelligently driven, or is it a natural signal?
<10:23>[E.]: Is it for the oranism? If so, then we may be affected inadvertantly if the exposure to the signal is strong enough locally
<10:29>[E.]: Is it for us? If so, then the organism would be operating in a inadvertant way. However, We have been given information that it is operating
<10:30>[E.]: in a intelligent (or directed) fashion.
<10:31>[E.]: On top of that, The information we have recieved from our benefactors is that it is terraforming the earth.
<10:33>[E.]: That implies higher programming and intelligence to direct it's action.
<10:35>[E.]: In this scenario, I tend to favor that we (normal flora and fauna on Earth) are the inadvertant recipients.
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

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Thread: Can't the radioactive wastewater be frozen?

Above is a link to glp thread discussing whether the radioactive waste water from the Fukushima reactors can be stored in a frozen state rather than released into the ocean. Discussion centers on salt, radioactive heat, etc.

Long story, very short:

Time is a spiral across dimensions, causing history to repeat itself,

Countries around the world have ancient stories about cataclysmic events reducing animal/human population,

Edgar Cayce suggested that evacuation of Atlantis happened over a number of years to escape uncontrolled disaster,

Bible speaks of the wrath of the "terrible crystal" ,

There is a secret beneath the ice over Lake Vostok in Antarctica which contains a "hot spot" [active fission?]

So, ... we may have:

An historically based cataclysmic event in Japan which will have to be "dropped" below sea level and frozen over to preserve earth as a habitat for humans and animals.

In which case, can we get the Russians with experience in Antarctica on the job? Japan may not like the idea, but we might encourage Japan to concede oversight of the radioactive mess to an international team.
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Random train of thought:

Ichor - mythological blood of the gods

Greek myth - a Colossus with a vein of ichor running through and kept stopped up by a nail in his back. The Colossus guarded Europa until the Argonauts came to get the Golden Fleece. Medea took out the nail, released the ichor and thus killing the Colossus.

Saw a comment in another thread that "they" (TPTB) fear even the idea of "the blood of Christ".

"Blood of Christ" symbolic representation in the Eucharist ceremony -- the transubstantion of substances. Also, the ceremony considers that the bread and wine become "the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ".

In Roman Catholic theology, transubstantiation (in Latin, transsubstantiatio, in Greek &#956;&#949;&#964;&#959;&#965;&#963;&#943;&#969;&#963;&#953;&​#962; metousiosis) means the change of the substance of host bread and sacramental wine into the substance of the Body and Blood (respectively)[1] of Jesus in the Eucharist, while all that is accessible to the senses (accidents) remains as before.

In modern philosophy, an accident (or accidental property) is the union of two concepts: property and contingency. In relation to the first, an accidental property (Greek symbebekos)[7] is at its most basic level a property. The color "yellow", "high value", "Atomic Number 79" are all properties, and are therefore candidates for being accidental. On the other hand, "gold", "platinum", and "electrum" are not properties, and are therefore not classified as accidents.

Quotes taken from Wikipedia.

Remove the religious/mythological language, and where might that get us?
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Wow Krispy, you really went off! ;-)
BHD, that's an interesting idea that those nuclear disasters might have another meaning, too.

But I still think one factor is completely left out of the equation:
The whole lot of feelings of such a massive number of humans & other sentient beings on our earth.
When it is true that our emotions are like a consciousness stream being "heard" by our earth
and the sun and those celestial bodies react on that & not only on huge technical devices.
I often wonder what that will do with us & our environment?


Did some of you see the weird egg-shaped earth's magnetosphere as it is simulated by NICT in Japan?

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

(or: copy & paste the link)
www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/

Check out how the flow lines normally look like for example:
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

(or: copy & paste the link)
www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/images/test_6.2011​0404181304.jpg

Imagine the sun radiation pressure coming from left hand side into the picture blowing the magnetic lines to the right.

(Need to read more of the explanation what you see in the diagrams.)

Another weird fact just now:
Haarp magnetometer realtime data server is not accessible:
(I don't remember to see that - very slow connections - yes, but not this message: "... can't establish a connection to the server at 137.229.36.30"
[link to 137.229.36.30]
137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi

The "Current Solar Data" by NOAA says solar X-rays is NORMAL & Geomagnetic field is QUIET - maybe it's a little bit all-too quiet?
[link to n3kl.org]
n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html

What do you think?
"All is o.k. & quiet, go back to sleep ..."?

hf

LurkGer.
P.S.: Oh, btw: bump

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But I still think one factor is completely left out of the equation:
The whole lot of feelings of such a massive number of humans & other sentient beings on our earth.
When it is true that our emotions are like a consciousness stream being "heard" by our earth
and the sun and those celestial bodies react on that & not only on huge technical devices.
I often wonder what that will do with us & our environment?
 Quoting: LurkGer


I reckon that is more and more the case LurkGer. Large scale catylising events that realy polarise a particular thought.

Usually fear based.

How many people working in covert situations, who thought they were working for the greater good, and for the good guys, are now realising that they are on the wrong side - helping to stifle the natural process, and hence betterment of humanity?

Not sure of wikileaks yet, but there seem to be quite a few ops comming forward.

So tuning the brains of everyone to one particular thought pattern to create a particular reality? To create an environment that certain entities can more comfortably live in?

I think this may be happening on so many levels LurkGer. Truly a World wide conspiracy.

But if our minds are so poweful, as to be able to create this environment, then we are equally powerful, once informed of the true situation, to correct it.
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But I still think one factor is completely left out of the equation:
The whole lot of feelings of such a massive number of humans & other sentient beings on our earth.
When it is true that our emotions are like a consciousness stream being "heard" by our earth
and the sun and those celestial bodies react on that & not only on huge technical devices.
I often wonder what that will do with us & our environment?
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I reckon that is more and more the case LurkGer. Large scale catylising events that realy polarise a particular thought.

Usually fear based.


How many people working in covert situations, who thought they were working for the greater good, and for the good guys, are now realising that they are on the wrong side - helping to stifle the natural process, and hence betterment of humanity?

Not sure of wikileaks yet, but there seem to be quite a few ops comming forward.

So tuning the brains of everyone to one particular thought pattern to create a particular reality? To create an environment that certain entities can more comfortably live in?

I think this may be happening on so many levels LurkGer. Truly a World wide conspiracy.

But if our minds are so poweful, as to be able to create this environment, then we are equally powerful, once informed of the true situation, to correct it.
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10000+ I agree hf
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This one is excellent! Check out the hard data on the depth of quakes around the world! This one alone warrants it's own thread!!




These are a two part.

[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
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This first vid above :

HAARP TERRAFORMING at exactly 10 KM depth,
all over the world
in 1 month more then 200 EQ's ...
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I'll be honest, I havent sen the vid yet MzK, but if what yr saying is that HAARP has been terraforming for years, then it it the masters of HAARP that are the bad guys here. Maybe Gaia is just retaliating with Augie to undo what is not natural?

...which would make Synthia either an accident, from oil production, and bio mutation and the reason for the BEZERK warning, or Synthia is an engineered attempt to stiffle Gaia's repair job, which would make these bastards even more evil again.

Maybe BEZERK was the first 'understood/measured' planetary retaliation? Which then required help from other Worlds, and the Sun, and the conversation (signals) has begun?

Very simplistic I know.

We never really got past ERK... and the meaning of it all.

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nobody has proven that HAARP is the culprit doing the transmitting.

the only thing at HAARP in Gakona that transmits, is the IRI

but it is not running for the majority of the time.

Show the IRI is transmitting just around the time of any earthquake, and BAM - you have the first and best bit of evidence linking HAARP to an earthquake.

And when that happens, (and believe me, lots of people are looking for evidence) you will hear about it in the mainstream news - because various EU politicians (who I have been in touch with) are looking for just such evidence.

Right now though, as pretty as those youtube clips are - there is ZERO evidence for HAARP causing any quakes at all.

BUT - there are lots of other facilities similar to HAARP, plus there are CERN facilities - and god knows what they are doing.


One might conclude from these clips, that SOMETHING ELSE is terraforming Earth at 10km below the surface.

You could just as easily use this info to allege that the organism is doing the terraforming, as predicted by OP and co last year. Which makes more sense to me than continually blaming HAARP for everything.

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"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
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I'll be honest, I havent sen the vid yet MzK, but if what yr saying is that HAARP has been terraforming for years, then it it the masters of HAARP that are the bad guys here. Maybe Gaia is just retaliating with Augie to undo what is not natural?

...which would make Synthia either an accident, from oil production, and bio mutation and the reason for the BEZERK warning, or Synthia is an engineered attempt to stiffle Gaia's repair job, which would make these bastards even more evil again.

Maybe BEZERK was the first 'understood/measured' planetary retaliation? Which then required help from other Worlds, and the Sun, and the conversation (signals) has begun?

Very simplistic I know.

We never really got past ERK... and the meaning of it all.
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Ok, some perspective on HAARP:

- the military industrial intelligence complex had created and tested earthquake generating weapons - TWENTY YEARS before the IRI at Gakona in Alaska was even operational. They don't need HAARP to make earthquakes, besides, they would get caught every time if they did.

- Nexus was the first to publish anything about HAARP in the media - and I have been watching it very closely since then. I know what I am talking about - and it is not rocket science. I have had EU Parliament researchers travel to Australia just to talk to me about my HAARP research - I can assure you that if HAARP is ever linked to an earthquake, there will be fireworks and shitstorms in the EU Parliament - the likes you have not seen before.

I have yet to see ANY evidence linking HAARP's transmissions to ANY earthquake - and I do not say this lightly. I have examined a lot of data on this. However I see lots of interesting measurements which could be used to show solar-earthquake connections via a variety of vectors, including resonating old lava tubes etc etc - but nobody seems to be excited by those connections - they just have this obsession with blaming HAARP for everything.

- Using the Induction Magnetometer or other ULF charts to prove HAARP is causing quakes, is like using weather radar charts to prove the WeatherChannel is causing man-made rain.

- The next time you see a 'blame HAARP' viral youtube clip, remind yourself that the maker/sender has no clue about what they are saying or propagating. If they had ANY idea of what they were talking about, they would be focussing instead OTHER places, like Poker Flats, the Holt Communications facility, CERN-facilities, Pine Gap or even EISCAT - long before needing to blame HAARP.

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Some recent chat:

SNIP

<10:15>[E.]: The other effect of the modulated radiation, which could be called a signal at this point,
<10:17>[E.]: Could it be something that could affect the telomerase, activating a section of it that the telomerase will resonate with,
<10:17>[E.]: and then activate dormant dna strands?
<10:18>[E.]: At this point, if the signal is sufficiently complex in it's encoding,
<10:18>[E.]: would it even be able to re-write the dna code and produce new sections?
<10:18>[E.]: Just speculating, folks
<10:21>[E.]: so what about augie?
<10:22>[E.]: If there is a signal like described by Aco, Thhen who is the signal for?
<10:22>[E.]: is it intelligently driven, or is it a natural signal?
<10:23>[E.]: Is it for the oranism? If so, then we may be affected inadvertantly if the exposure to the signal is strong enough locally
<10:29>[E.]: Is it for us? If so, then the organism would be operating in a inadvertant way. However, We have been given information that it is operating
<10:30>[E.]: in a intelligent (or directed) fashion.
<10:31>[E.]: On top of that, The information we have recieved from our benefactors is that it is terraforming the earth.
<10:33>[E.]: That implies higher programming and intelligence to direct it's action.
<10:35>[E.]: In this scenario, I tend to favor that we (normal flora and fauna on Earth) are the inadvertant recipients.
 Quoting: Housedad


A good friend of mine pointed out that Humans are about #3 down the list of intelligence on this planet. That does not take in to account the planet itself.

We arrogantly continue to believe the spotlight is always on us, that it must be always about us Human types, when in actual fact, the decision to activate and stimulate Augie or Earth changes may have nothing to do with us, or be any of our business, regardless of the negative (or positive) outcomes, such as terraforming or complete ecosystem change.

Quite a few people here got uppity when I suggested that Augie was none of our business before. Why was that?

Sometimes its good to take a step back and forget a few ground in 'facts' and the bigger picture takes on a different shape.

How do we know that this is not the way it has always been done? Our scientists and engineers continue to work on weapons and death medicine, power sources that pollute and kill - rather than try to truly understand the universe and why it works like it does. They/we work against it.

So, again, maybe Gaia has had enough, and those that get it will move on, and those that dont will be forced to change due to the insertion of new DNA strands, new conciousness, and new perspectives. Gaia herself may be the higher programming and intelligence. The Sun maybe the driver/power source.

Its a pity we were not more ready on all levels to embrace this, rather than, as usual, fear the coming change.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Yes BHD, I have to agree with you.

You are absolutely right in pointing out that over decenia our "modern science and world" had done nothing BUT KILLING US SLOWLY ... Their deliberate efforts to change us, HUMANFORMING ! And to polute and weaken us, and stuffing our brains and body's with more toxins then the natural world ever was able to in eons of time !!!

And now the fingers are pointed to a presumable organism, which we called AUGIE ? Which might be a natural occurency of these time and events taking place on Earth AND IN THE WHOLE GALAXCY.
There might be a small possibility that it is what Aco sais, a terraforming, terrafoaming, intelligent organism driven by outside bad-alien influences, to wipe-clean and prepare for their return ....
I dont think so, but hey who am I ...lol...
The possibility that this organism is linked to occurencys to help Mama Nature go trough these labourpains that come with all these changes in the Univers, that Augie is like an endorfine, like a key-fluid to overcome (help in) the big cathastrophies is also more then likely.

Do we want to be fear-fed ???

BHD is absolutely right that we should not be so damn egoistic, and see for once and for all that WE HUMANS are PART OF THE CIRCLE OF LIFE !!!
We are not on the TOP of it, like some want to be or dare to believe.
In reality we are incarnated humble parts in a chain of processes ... nothing less and nothing more.
We are THE CELLS that are PART of a BODY,
WE ARE NOT THE BODY ITSELF !

If we let go fear,
if we let go our ego and the lives we builded around it,
then we will be free,
and in co-creation with all-that-is,
then TPTB dont have a fear-grip upon us anymore.
Then we see that we are who we have to be at all points of time in our existence,
then we acknowledge the laws of nature as ONE
which will make us truly ONE and in harmony...
An universal poem ...
A UNI-VERS.

We CANT CONTROL the EARTH, nor the Univers !
These LAWS of nature, and what they trigger or awaken or reactivate, is beyond our buisness.

We have to stop feeding and believing the fear !
We have to stop seeing everything as a personal attack,
an attack on the human race.

Just like every microbe is already in our body (electromagnetic field and blueprint) yet dormant or inactive, so is that with the Earth, and so is that with Aliens and other-space&time-beings ... They alredy exist with us, but are not yet accesable or interactive with us.
Just like virusses and bacteria.
Triggers and descisions will atrack to your energyfield what is needed for your growth and devellopment, on different scales (personal and as a collective entity : humans)

If water was afraid to move around, and change, and be part of many organisms on many levels ... If water was to hold on to one spot, it would DIE ... it would STINK and turn acid. Defencive.
So why do we humans want to hold on to one thing that is known to us? (or made us believe in, an illusion). Why are we so afraid to change and to flow with nature, and walk the paths of LIFE? Why do we believe we have to fight for everything ? we have to defend everything ?
Why cant we see the abun-dance ?

We forget that in this human physical state, our BLUEPRINT is always the HIGHER PROGRAMMER ...
Why should an organism like our so-called-augie be directed by bad-aliens?
Why cant we see that the laws of the GALACTIC allignment are now in force and (re)activating blueprints through their proton and neutron and what-ever-particle beams, emanating from the core of this spiral Galaxy ?

Why always wanting to point to an ENEMY ???

Yes things will change,
they always have been doing so.
Yes people will die,
they always have been doing so.


Once we will live in harmony with our physical organisms/bodies,
once we will LIVE being a PART of the Chain,
we will be free,
and then we will be more then we ever were able to grasp in our panic and fear ....


Quote BHD :
"Sometimes its good to take a step back and forget a few ground in 'facts' and the bigger picture takes on a different shape.

How do we know that this is not the way it has always been done?"


Many elders and saga and myths tell us about that this all has happend 4 times BEFORE ! ... But did not go anywhere and we were RESET.
This 5th time we have the chance to do it different and to GO WITH THE FLOW, instead of fighting (with TPTB) against it, as their amplifying (ampli-frightning) puppets.
We dont have to end in a new ICEAGE, nor do we have to relive the destruction of Atlantis, or other reset-cathastrophies.
(besides the nessacary EQ's and adaptation events for Earth to follow the allignment-energies and changes)

With all the technology we know and have,
we could HELP Earth in reaching her goal and destination which we are a part of,
if we only would let fear go
we would be able to listen to what the Earth really needed,
and we would better understand the relationships of allll things
on earth and in the cosmos.

fear = a cage
cages are unnatural,
and will be naturally destroyed eventually.


peace
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nobody has proven that HAARP is the culprit doing the transmitting.

the only thing at HAARP in Gakona that transmits, is the IRI

but it is not running for the majority of the time.

Show the IRI is transmitting just around the time of any earthquake, and BAM - you have the first and best bit of evidence linking HAARP to an earthquake.

And when that happens, (and believe me, lots of people are looking for evidence) you will hear about it in the mainstream news - because various EU politicians (who I have been in touch with) are looking for just such evidence.

Right now though, as pretty as those youtube clips are - there is ZERO evidence for HAARP causing any quakes at all.

BUT - there are lots of other facilities similar to HAARP, plus there are CERN facilities - and god knows what they are doing.


One might conclude from these clips, that SOMETHING ELSE is terraforming Earth at 10km below the surface.

You could just as easily use this info to allege that the organism is doing the terraforming, as predicted by OP and co last year. Which makes more sense to me than continually blaming HAARP for everything.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


Yes Nexus I agree with you that also CERN and other likewise facilities are good options to be the culprits.

My gues has always been : a mix of all, not 1 alone.
Coz that is how TPTB work, on as many levels and dimensions as posible, subtile but in accordance with each other to amplify and direct consciously deliberately.

Many wise scientists have acknowledged that HAARP can indeed be used to created EQ's. There is enough documentary about it to support these statements.
But again you are absolutely right that HAARP is not the only factor.

I knew that you or an other aco-group-member would come up with that bolded line ...lol...

There is less evidence pointing towards Augie being reponsible for the 10KM EQ's then for activities of Haarp & other oscillating and frequency technology and facilities.

You dont have to find, and probably will not find, conclusive matching simple evidence, that will pont to 1 facility or 1 moment that a technology is used.
Things like frequency weapons (HAARP & CERN etc) can follow a plan of dosed portions to eventually saturate an area, which will lead to a "natural LOOKING" EQ ... Or trigger other soft spots that will pass stress on to other places that are the actual points of Earth-terrorism.
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<snip>

Many wise scientists have acknowledged that HAARP can indeed be used to created EQ's. There is enough documentary about it to support these statements.
But again you are absolutely right that HAARP is not the only factor.

<snip>


Like I said, I track down and check every one of those 'wise scientists' and none of them have proof HAARP has caused a single earthquake.

If HAARP caused ANY quakes, it would show up on the IRI transmitters - and EVERYONE would know. It has not happened. HAARP is not the one causing quakes.

I am sorry Krispy, there are no 'wise scientists' with ANY evidence linking HAARP to a single earthquake.


PS: Like many on this list, you are 'new' to this research. Otherwise you would know about the whistleblowers in the 1970s who talked about man-made earthquakes. They even made a UN-treaty including banning this technology. They don't need HAARP to make quakes, else they will get caught.

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"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
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B.S. in June 2010 when it was last reported B.S. today.
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Hi Guys!

Long time no see.

I would like to share an expression that I came across this evening...

"The Shinning Ones"

What could have they been thinkin', to tinker with the pulse of time and alter our genome and history ?

See ya´ll
hf
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There is a strong correlation between the Sun's activity and Earthquakes.
If some people who may have access to 'time travel'/'remote viewing' in some form take advantage of that situation for their own ends, then that is a different matter.

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Pineal gland + Crystals. Interesting.

[link to fedgeno.com]

and a sumary -

[link to www.starweave.com]



Kudos to kdub on his thread - Thread: pineal gland crystals?

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so, which side are we on?
war or not (prfer not...lol)?
what side????
have my opinions...but, well.....
but this is the nuts and bolts of the forum so....
don't want to cause waves, but we need to have a management plan whichever side we are on, as the other side will crumble.......

the only real questions are:
do we have a location of augie now?
is he one or multi?
we also need a list of all "splash zones"
and ambient temps, pressures and aprox water density
this will tell us if a combo of salt, ethanol, and water pressure could contain augie.

super cooled snow machine??(w high density saltwater??)

or....

high power peltier device


well.....

just off on an odd tangent

and also, everyone on this tread, everyone!!!!!!! should understand that if, and I really mean if anyone of us, find augie is defco 1 hostile (we are screwed to the x power screwed hostile), we are the only ones that may stop it. SERIOUSLY!!! NO ONE ELSE realizes..I really think you need to also realize we could be the poor guy in the b grade movie that the whole flippin world relys on in the bad scifi movies to pull them out of the shitter, head first at that. (AKA SAVE THE world)

for the bezerk record, once and only once, I'm ALL IN (aka texas holdem) with some amazing...ummm.... "homeopathic resources" not based upon conventional science.

but we gotta top talkin, and start fixin'
This could be IT, what we gonna do????
die individually, with a little flippin' squeek???
or at least die as a wholw with a bang???
I don't know but this thread has, ...well...changed me... ya'll know
preachin' to the choir I guess

dr

as a ps, similar response (no I am not a bot...lol)


Thread: Chinese briefcases were opened today - what will you be told? (Page 30)


2ps if we can not get together humaity is fucked/////
THINK about it

dr (sorry long rant)
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Maybe
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Nexus I have just got to where you mentioned lava tubes resonating (just a wee bit behind) can you give us any more info on this /or send some pointers as where to look. I have visited the lava tubes in Oz and found them absolutely amazing.
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We are THE CELLS that are PART of a BODY,
WE ARE NOT THE BODY ITSELF !



We forget that in this human physical state, our BLUEPRINT is always the HIGHER PROGRAMMER ...



 Quoting: Krispy71


Krispy, Chapeau!

now let's think about what happens to a body that develops cancer...


goodnewsapplause2verycool
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Just to let you know the blue lights in Christ Church were debunked on abovetopsecret. It's a reflection of a torch on the ceiling?, probably April fools joke of the mother. Nexus, for someone with so much experience, I thought you would have done some closer looking before posting something like that.
For the rest here, seriously, what EVIDENCE is there ? Is it all heresay from the OP and nice chat conversations full of speculation and fantasy ? No offence to anyone. Housedad, I think you are a great researcher, but seriously one more time.....evidence ???

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