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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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The child at the end, could be a symbolism for a NEW RACE, a new humanity, more crystaline instead of primeraly carbon-based. The comet could be Elenin ...


Tnx again xxMzK
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Yes, MzK, if you ask me what my heart feels: This will be the way of evolution.

And here perfect adds from the first link:
[link to www.radiofm88.com.au]
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Whether or not there is any truth in this body of prediction around 2012 it is certainly worth preparing for it just in case. Reverting to peasant survival on a plot of land in the mountains somewhere for physical survival is one option. Spiritual preparation is a more realistic option. Every human life ends sooner or later so every day should include preparation for transition. The warnings of 2012 are invaluable for reminding us of our mortality; we cannot take our lives for granted. 2012 warnings provide a reason to shift our focus from material to spiritual wellbeing. More than anything else they remind us to practice unconditional love over and above anything else because if civilisation is rubbed nothing counts but compassion.
One thing is for sure. No civilisation in human history has survived indefinitely. Why should ours.
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This research suggests there is no reason for people to fear death in 2012. Much evidence suggests death is the door to birth again in this world or in some other world elsewhere in the Universe. If a person claims to be spiritual and treats the threat of death and destruction in 2012 as fearful they prove thereby that they are not truly spiritual. Truly spiritual people have no fear of death and their non‐attachment to material things enables them to view destruction as transition. Spiritual people appreciate death as the way to future life. It is a continuity of the great adventure. It is being without the burden of a human body.
2012 is the promise of a future for the Earth, a restoration of nature, a new wave of evolution and survival of a remnant people into a golden age. Let us rejoice in all outcomes and have faith in the future. If your heart calls you and you are certain it is your destiny to survive physically, don’t procrastinate. Head for the Pyrenees or some other safe mountain range now! Exchange your home in the city for a cabin in a high, remote place. Prepare your seeds and your hand tools. Build an underground shelter to protect yourself, your family and your animals from a possible rain of meteors that could occur should a comet strike. Store food, water and fuel to last you at least a year and be prepared for days of darkness when only candles will give you light.

Alternatively you could stay in the city, surrender attachment to this world and prepare to soar like an Eagle:
Times of change for the Earth are here
Time to let go of the things we hold dear,
Releasing is a process that people most fear,
But let go we must as the end times draw near.
If we let go of our things without fear,
Surrendering hold on those we hold dear,
They will return to make it quite clear,
That we can trust Life, we have nothing to fear
The gods that made us had a great fear,
That man would someday outshine them down here,
So they denied us the Tree of Life,
And threw us all out into pain, death and strife.
For this great sin, the gods have been drawn
Into tiny babies they have been born,
Thus onto earth the gods have been thrust,
To learn that in Life even they must place their trust.
Many are gods, here in human form
Here to overcome through battle, pain and storm,
That tenacious hold onto power, greed and pride,
That prevented the gods from evolving on high,
Now this great learning has almost been done,
For most of us on Earth the battle is won,
With no more pride and nothing left to keep,
We are now ready to take the quantum leap.
Gone is our faith in the Bible and the beer,
Gone is our longing for comfort and good cheer,
Gone is our trust in what we see and hear,
Gone is our hold on our loved ones so dear.
We are the ones with neither friend nor foe,
Ready to surrender everything we know,
We are the ones standing on our own,
Solitary eagles about to soar home.

The truth about 2012 is that it will unfold as it will. The future is unknown; anything could happen. If there is a disaster they will survive who are destined to survive. It is not for the majority of humanity to panic and run off into the hills with their garden tools. The truth about 2012 is the same truth that applies to every day of life on Earth for every human being that has ever lived. We are not here forever. We are here to learn a single lesson; the lesson of love. One thing is true; our compassion and our care, the real love that we share is the best way to prepare.

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Thanks MzK
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been searching for ages on relationships bewteen these three elements - salt (salt domes), water (fresh water aquifers) and oil(and other petrolium like substances). And a fourth element - 'trouble' in areas where the other three are known to exist.

GoM is an obvious one. Lake Peigneur 'was' another.

I was not aware that the fracking process was so wide spread, and the ultimate use of which, when near a large salt dome and water body is to actually allow the water and salt to mix, dissolving the salt column (miles x miles x miles) and then allowing known easy to reach oil deposits to be pumped in, or seeped in to the resulting cavern, which is relatively stable as it still has the same volume of matter inside it, only to have the super brine, pumped out, and a massive oil reserve created.

I always heard and read about oil reserves, and storage caverns in and around the GoM, but this is bigger than my poor little head can get around.

Biloxi is apparently 2 miles in diameter and 20 miles deep. That would be just one.

Where have they been pumping the brine then? (mass animal deaths, change of flow pattern, change of colour, change of density.....keeps any oil below the surface too...)

And the other reserves, injected full of a combination of natural and synthetic bacteria types to create positive pressure... what, they dont leak or intermingle with aquifers? (is that what has occurred in S.Africa?)

Are these actions what are causing the Earth to respond with a form of 'lymph'? to repair? Maybe it is an alien intervention?

If what they said a while back about drilling a tunnel to the GoM from Yellowstone is correct, it will be like those cartoons with the trail of gun powder leading to the kegs full of the stuff.

Is that the real omega plan to destroy Augie?


This is a link to a pdf on the above three subjects -
[link to www.twdb.state.tx.us]

And another interesting one on pumping both liquid and frozen CO2 in to wells, and deep ocean areas.
[link to www.twi.co.uk]
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Hi BHD,
I am done reading your links, (and done with a dozen other things too ...lol.. household-dinner-relaxtime etc)


What I found interresting from the first PDF-link was this:
- Chemical waste and nuclear disposals in saltdomes ...

- Crude oil, various petroleum, liquid petro gas and CO2 is stored in saltdomes.

* From the second link : Co2 injection is also used in active oilwells for recovery of oil. These methods needs a HUGE amounth of Co2 ... > that makes you think twice about our human Co2 "production" !!! > They NEED it for their OIL !!! ...or did I read that wrong ? -language problem- ...

snip-quote :
"Direct injection into oil wells to increase recovery rates is an established technology, practised both on and offshore. The USA leads the use of CO 2 for enhancing oil recovery, and uses over 32 million tonnes of CO 2 for this purpose annually.
This approach is able to sequester carbon at low net cost, due to the revenues from recovered oil/gas. While the technologies involved in oil well enhancement are established, their more general application across the oil industry as a whole will demand a scaling up of manufacturing operations. Similar technical considerations will apply to sequestration in depleted oil and gas wells."


- Geologic & hydrologic instabilities : Sinkholes and collapses where large amounths of sulphur, salt and petro have been extracted from saltdomes ...

That makes you think about all the sudden sinkholes in the world. We (or they from recovery and drilling companies) made our ground instable !

- Petro staorage failed and leaked in freshwater sands ...

What else leaked with so many holes drilled in all these years, and made unstable ... and what about the chemical-compound leaks of fracking methods ???!?!?!?!

* From second link :
"Shallow ocean sequestration
Injection of CO 2 into shallow ocean layers may be used to increase the growth of phytoplankton and thus stimulate the ocean food chain. Iron additions to the ocean may be used to stimulate biological growth in areas that would otherwise be low in phytoplankton and hence higher forms of life. Although this approach has been used experimentally, there are few data to show that the CO 2 absorbed is actually sequestered for long periods."


We know it has been done in the GOM !!! iron add for the growth (possibly) of algae, but sure for Synthia as we could read from various sources, measurments/tests and articles.

The Deep ocean sequestration, was also interresting to read ... a real hmmmmmzzzzz scratching


Tnx BHD ... now my head is spinning too ..lol
xx MzK
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Tnx BHD ... now my head is spinning too ..lol
xx MzK



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So can someone sum up where we are now?

- Oil companies are f**king up Earth.
- Earth is trying to protect herself and beginning a cleansing process that interferes with what the oil vampires are doing.
- TPTB are trying to use instruments to prevent that.
- At the same time, Earth and humans are undergoing a development more to a crystalline basis.
- The crystalline base allows for progression to the next level, both for Earth and us.

Is that it in a nutshell? Am I close, or so way off the mark it isn't even trying to explain? LOL Go ahead, be brually honest - I can take it.
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So can someone sum up where we are now?
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- Earth is trying to protect herself and beginning a cleansing process that interferes with what the oil vampires are doing.
...
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Oy, now I'm confusing myself.

Substitute the above quoted statement with: Possible terraforming process underway, possibly initiated by aliens who want to make Earth a more hospitable environment for themselves and who want to take control of Earth.
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Interresting scientific find :


Bacterial Ecosystems Divide People Into 3 Groups, Scientists Say
[link to www.nytimes.com]
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So can someone sum up where we are now?
...
- Earth is trying to protect herself and beginning a cleansing process that interferes with what the oil vampires are doing.
...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657



Oy, now I'm confusing myself.

Substitute the above quoted statement with: Possible terraforming process underway, possibly initiated by aliens who want to make Earth a more hospitable environment for themselves and who want to take control of Earth.
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the bottom statement sounds about right to me AC Canada
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So can someone sum up where we are now?

- Oil companies are f**king up Earth.
- Earth is trying to protect herself and beginning a cleansing process that interferes with what the oil vampires are doing.
- TPTB are trying to use instruments to prevent that.
- At the same time, Earth and humans are undergoing a development more to a crystalline basis.
- The crystalline base allows for progression to the next level, both for Earth and us.

Is that it in a nutshell? Am I close, or so way off the mark it isn't even trying to explain? LOL Go ahead, be brually honest - I can take it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657



Oy, now I'm confusing myself.

Substitute the above quoted statement with: Possible terraforming process underway, possibly initiated by aliens who want to make Earth a more hospitable environment for themselves and who want to take control of Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657


Hi AC Canada :D

yes that sums it up quit well ...lol...

I think though that instead of that Earth is trying to protect herself and begins cleansing, that it is more an act of balance.
Nature has the natural ability to allways work towards balance according the circumstances. It is an always (been-is-will be) act of harmonics and restorance.
And yes, that is not always what some factions on Earth want ..lol.. Earth always responds to the bigger call and signals of the Galaxy and the even bigger Univers. And lately we all on Earth and she herself are in transition, in a period of transformation, which is again linked to the natural outer-space occurencies, that will shift the densities of all material and energy on and of Earth and the other planets/stars.
You could call this a terra-formation .. an adaption ... (just what your body does in many occasions of stress and changements)

Some believe the last of your lines is part of whats happening, but I dont think so ...lol..

You posted a great nutshell nuts

hf xx MzK
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So can someone sum up where we are now?
...
- Earth is trying to protect herself and beginning a cleansing process that interferes with what the oil vampires are doing.
...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657



Oy, now I'm confusing myself.

Substitute the above quoted statement with: Possible terraforming process underway, possibly initiated by aliens who want to make Earth a more hospitable environment for themselves and who want to take control of Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657


the bottom statement sounds about right to me AC Canada
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Yes short and sweet and to the point...
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LOL Thanks for the feedback. Honestly I was expecting something more along the lines of, "You're an idiot. Get the hell out of Dodge!"

Krispy, my Grade 9 biology teacher used to constantly say, "Nature loves a balance." =)

I have to say I tend not to go with the idea that it's aliens initiating the change; I think it's part of a larger cycle, as I've posted previously. I dunno, I just think if it was aliens, why would they have waited this long? They could have had Earth for the taking long ago.
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LOL Thanks for the feedback. Honestly I was expecting something more along the lines of, "You're an idiot. Get the hell out of Dodge!"

Krispy, my Grade 9 biology teacher used to constantly say, "Nature loves a balance." =)

I have to say I tend not to go with the idea that it's aliens initiating the change; I think it's part of a larger cycle, as I've posted previously. I dunno, I just think if it was aliens, why would they have waited this long? They could have had Earth for the taking long ago.
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cycles...cycles...everything goes in cycles...perhaps a special galactic alignment has to happen in order for them to come through?..
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My interest is repair of the Gulf. I do not believe that the organism is an alien present, but the morphing cousin of Synthia. And, that the calibrators don't always work for control because Synthia's cousin, "Augie" morphs faster than the equipment can be re-calibrated. Now, Synthia and all its cousins have have spread.

The following is c/p from another glp thread with no link:

"A nurse who works in medical research said, "It's so simple. I don't know why I never thought of it before. When we're working with cell cultures in the lab, if we want the cells to mutate, we turn down the oxygen, to stop them, we turn the oxygen back up."

Every year we lose more oxygen from our atmosphere to depletion of the ozone, and every year the incidence of Cancer increases. In the beginning, the earth's atmosphere was 37% oxygen. Now the atmosphere is 20% oxygen. Oxygen is essential to metabolize food and create high energy, and it is also impossible for cancer to exist in an alkaline oxygen-rich environment. ..."

There is good cause to think that BP's and NALCO's Corexit is reducing the oxygen content of the Gulf water. Admittedly, we don't have the recipe for Corexit to determine whether the BP cocktail is pulling oxygen out of the water, but Corexit and low oxygen appear related.

If the quoted statement above is true, that low oxygen causes cells to mutate, then we may have an explanation for the imploding mutation of Synthia to AU to Augie ...

How can we re-oxygenate the Gulf waters, much like a fish aquarium has oxygen pumped into the water?

There is a lake in the Southeast USA where this is being done by the US Corps of Engineers, but first we need recognition of the problem in order to get attention to a process for repair of the Gulf. It is not be helpful to be talking about "aliens" [with no proof] in order to get something worked out.

Does anyone have proof of low oxygen content of the Gulf water around the D E E P incident?
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Year One Gulf Report from South Carolina:

This time last year we had no wasps and very few mosquitoes in the Carolina mountains; many fewer birds than normal and spots on leaves of some of the vegetation.

A limited number of wasps are back and building nests, mosquitoes are out, birds are singing and we have a noisy woodpecker. The vegetation appears normal. The migrating birds are fewer than usual, and they fly off in a somewhat Westerly direction rather than North.

The grocery store continues to advertise "Pacific" shrimp.

Frankly, the environmental concerns with the Gulf and Corexit have shifted to serious concern about the Jet Stream swooping into the Southern states carrying shima-schitt.

There is censorship of accurate and timely data on the radiation blowing our way, just like we had Gulf information censored.
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Always love your focus SouthCarolina. hf hf

Regardless of the 'bent' on which people interpret information, your points are super valid regarding simple conditions for life to thrive. Oxygen.

In amongst all of MzKs stuff and a few of mine is reference to massive amounts of CO2 created by some of the bacteria placed in the reserves beneath the gulf.

Could the processes being used also be depleting oxygen from the waters? and leaving CO2 as the byproduct from both oil and oxygen consumption?

It just seems that these massive amounts of CO2 come from somewhere. The corexit issue confuses me even more as to what its true purpose is.

The more I learn about the practices of this industry, operating right under our noses, the more I think it is a total cover for something else, a means unto an end. Our addiction fuels it.

Even if you dont buy in to that ^^, I think some simple chemistry, regarding the make up of elements, but on a grand scale is at play here.
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@Housedad on the previous page - re the Calibrators

A calibrator, by it's very nature, is a device that creates a standard by which something else is calibrated by.

Work has been done with sound - 'creating silence', ie. using sound to block sound.

What they do, is to use a microphone and amplifier to generate the same sound, but at opposite phase, thereby nulling out the sound. The trick is to be able to match all the frequencies and volumes exactly.

You need to be close to the source for this to work properly, or it will become a localised effect, and make even worse noise elswhere.

Now, we are led to believe (navy types please confirm), that some ships and submarines also use these tricks to help them keep quiet and not be heard.

Now, we are talking about supposed RF and higher frequencies - most likely in the MegaHz/TerraHz and above, but they could also be a LOT lower. To interact with DNA, which is 'fairly' small, I feel it is likey to be extremly high, as the frequency to wavelength formula is "Wavelength = (Speed of Light - about 3×10E8 m/s) divided by Frequency. [link to en.wikipedia.org]


Still a simple thing to do, transmit a counter-phase, BUT.. Here's the catch(s)............ tomato

1 - we need antenna tuned to these frequencies - maybe many frequencies..

2 - we need electronics FAST enough to process the signals - you would need to be MANY times faster than the highest signal, so you could 'examine' it and make a reverse copy.

So, since our current (known) computers only run up to a few hundred MHz - and the signals could be well above this, we have a problem.

It is known that the Russians have been working on some pretty fast and powerful computer designs (and software), so maybe they are a little ahead of Intel??? blink

And of couse, if you don't get it EXACTLY right....

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Year One Gulf Report from South Carolina:

This time last year we had no wasps and very few mosquitoes in the Carolina mountains; many fewer birds than normal and spots on leaves of some of the vegetation.

A limited number of wasps are back and building nests, mosquitoes are out, birds are singing and we have a noisy woodpecker. The vegetation appears normal. The migrating birds are fewer than usual, and they fly off in a somewhat Westerly direction rather than North.

The grocery store continues to advertise "Pacific" shrimp.

Frankly, the environmental concerns with the Gulf and Corexit have shifted to serious concern about the Jet Stream swooping into the Southern states carrying shima-schitt.

There is censorship of accurate and timely data on the radiation blowing our way, just like we had Gulf information censored.
 Quoting: AC/SC 1355838


Thanks AC/SC...

I think you are spot on...

Not just the drilling and the corexit...but also all aspects of oil refining...Including driving to the grocery store to buy food, the planting of food, the harvesting of food...

We will not see the benefits of a clean environment until we curtail our use of fossil/amniotic fuels...

Alas my generation will not be around to see that even if it starts happening tomorrow...

Cz...
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Always love your focus SouthCarolina. hf hf

Regardless of the 'bent' on which people interpret information, your points are super valid regarding simple conditions for life to thrive. Oxygen.

In amongst all of MzKs stuff and a few of mine is reference to massive amounts of CO2 created by some of the bacteria placed in the reserves beneath the gulf.

Could the processes being used also be depleting oxygen from the waters? and leaving CO2 as the byproduct from both oil and oxygen consumption?

It just seems that these massive amounts of CO2 come from somewhere. The corexit issue confuses me even more as to what its true purpose is.

The more I learn about the practices of this industry, operating right under our noses, the more I think it is a total cover for something else, a means unto an end. Our addiction fuels it.

Even if you dont buy in to that ^^, I think some simple chemistry, regarding the make up of elements, but on a grand scale is at play here.
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According to US officials "massive amounts of CO2" are produced in the process of obtaining energy (oil, gas, coal) and in productions of goods when using that energy. This was the explanation for what was called "Cap and Trade" to market shares of energy credits.

French AVERA appears to be n expert on CO2 and Cap and Trade theory, with other European countries already structured for tax credits. For example, the Norwegians have stored the maximum possible amount of CO2 under the North Sea in a reservoir so they don't have to pay tax on the CO2. (Just imagine if that balloon of CO2 should spring a leak.)

In other words, we are told that we are producing more CO2 than the earth's environment can handle. So the purpose of creating additional CO2 in the Gulf is what? To kill us? Or, is this an attempt to force the US to set up Cap and Trade in the markets?

The Europeans have been into CO2 issues for some time, moreso than we have in the US. Perhaps we are late waking up to the significant problems. Yet, basically it is a conglomerate of European-based businesses which have poisoned the Gulf, with a little help from US government agencies.
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So can someone sum up where we are now?
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- Earth is trying to protect herself and beginning a cleansing process that interferes with what the oil vampires are doing.
...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657



Oy, now I'm confusing myself.

Substitute the above quoted statement with: Possible terraforming process underway, possibly initiated by aliens who want to make Earth a more hospitable environment for themselves and who want to take control of Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657


the bottom statement sounds about right to me AC Canada
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Yes short and sweet and to the point...
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Another take on all this perhaps
Who are we up against?

These are not necessarily biological enemies and it’s not only us under attack, my Intel has always suggested we are not under direct attack from extraterrestrial forces as you might conceive them to be, these are not blood and bone creatures and they will most likely be using mineral resources to get at us. They will be using the mineral resources of the planet, our planet will also be a mark for them, they recognize our planet is coevolving with us, it’s a joint project the deeper meaning of ‘Coevolution’ is Earth-Human advancement in the cycle of events.
Lesser creatures as they are with no hope of advancement in the grander plan of the cosmos they do not want to be left behind and as they can’t go anywhere outside the plain of existence we are now residing in they will try very hard to keep us here to, and that means hold the planet back as well, wounding her as they have wounded us, if planet earth is fighting back in some way we might not recognize, so be it, it will ultimately be for our own good.
So it’s hard to sort the manufactured negative events on planet earth from the fight back of light beings, that’s you and I and planet earth.
The non-human creatures are not made up of living biological matter the only advantage that gives them is long life, perhaps endless life as we might understand it, also an ability to morph minerals into tools for their own use, similar to what we might do to build things, but their understanding of the life within mineral substances, remembering even atoms contain a form of intelligence, this better understanding of mineral properties will allow the ‘Dark Ones’ to turn sections of our planet against us perhaps even with the ability to create earthquakes by the manipulation of mineral deposits deep within the earths mantel. Perhaps they have created Augie or whatever you might want to call it, sounds most likely, don’t be in a hurry to rush into crystalline life thinking it an advancement from the life form which we now possess.
Remembering crystalline is mineral and most likely easier to control by the “Dark Ones” than the present suits we all wear. I have heard all sorts of stories of entities living within crystal formations that and not nice at all to deal with.
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My intel also clearly suggested some humans have hooked into this dark creature-creatures for personal gain and are being used by it to help bring about our ulimate demise, ie. Excecutives of oil companies which might be given the heads up on the best places to drill for oil in exchange for well your guess is as good as mine?
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Year One Gulf Report from South Carolina:
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Thanks AC/SC...

I think you are spot on...

Not just the drilling and the corexit...but also all aspects of oil refining...Including driving to the grocery store to buy food, the planting of food, the harvesting of food...

We will not see the benefits of a clean environment until we curtail our use of fossil/amniotic fuels...

Alas my generation will not be around to see that even if it starts happening tomorrow...

Cz...
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Our generation (elders) may see the benefits of a clean environment if the use of hydrocarbon-based fuels are shut down quickly, say like overnight. It is likely that all such energy sources have now been poisoned.

The US has not built new refineries in 30 years, which is about the time many nuclear power plants were built. With the nuclear disasters, we now are seeing the death throes of the nuclear power industry. New nuclear power plants have been permitted in the US and I'll guess that the death rattle will be long and loud.

But, stuff is coming forward. Volvo is well on its way to producing a car with solar-powered batteries.

My rural community is working toward a mass transit bus system.

A multi-national company produces digital utility meters in our local plant. Installed meters are controlled from the utility provider, and a homeowner for example, can have their utility (electric, gas, water) use restricted in exchange for a lower rate.

Company headquarters may know something that we don't.

Their production line meters can read ANY energy source such as solar, windmill power, hydro power, etc. The company has a bank of solar panels at the plant site, along with gas and water meters "in the woods." The purpose is to show prospective utility provider customers how the meters can read the various utility products.

One interesting point: the manufactured meters have RFID chips monitored by the production company. Too me this means that the multi-national corporation can flip off a switch anywhere it may have an interest in doing so. Dunno ... just saying. That would be a lot of control in the hands of a corporation and I know of nothing that is being done in the way of regulation of this potential control. Also, each meter has a gps indicator. The corporation knows the exact location of every meter they sell worldwide.
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My interest is repair of the Gulf. I do not believe that the organism is an alien present, but the morphing cousin of Synthia. And, that the calibrators don't always work for control because Synthia's cousin, "Augie" morphs faster than the equipment can be re-calibrated. Now, Synthia and all its cousins have have spread.

The following is c/p from another glp thread with no link:

"A nurse who works in medical research said, "It's so simple. I don't know why I never thought of it before. When we're working with cell cultures in the lab, if we want the cells to mutate, we turn down the oxygen, to stop them, we turn the oxygen back up."

Every year we lose more oxygen from our atmosphere to depletion of the ozone, and every year the incidence of Cancer increases. In the beginning, the earth's atmosphere was 37% oxygen. Now the atmosphere is 20% oxygen. Oxygen is essential to metabolize food and create high energy, and it is also impossible for cancer to exist in an alkaline oxygen-rich environment. ..."

There is good cause to think that BP's and NALCO's Corexit is reducing the oxygen content of the Gulf water. Admittedly, we don't have the recipe for Corexit to determine whether the BP cocktail is pulling oxygen out of the water, but Corexit and low oxygen appear related.

If the quoted statement above is true, that low oxygen causes cells to mutate, then we may have an explanation for the imploding mutation of Synthia to AU to Augie ...

How can we re-oxygenate the Gulf waters, much like a fish aquarium has oxygen pumped into the water?

There is a lake in the Southeast USA where this is being done by the US Corps of Engineers, but first we need recognition of the problem in order to get attention to a process for repair of the Gulf. It is not be helpful to be talking about "aliens" [with no proof] in order to get something worked out.

Does anyone have proof of low oxygen content of the Gulf water around the D E E P incident?
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Okay, this makes a whole lot more sense to me than 'the aliens done it'.

Re O2 content: here's a link that expressed concern about the low content back in Aug '10.
[link to e360.yale.edu]

And here, from Mar. 2011: O2 levels almost 0% at Redondo Beach:
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

Jun. 2010: low O2 in GoM:
[link to www.nola.com]

It's probably been posted here before, but here are the (major) ingredients of Corexit:
[link to www.ufppc.org]

The components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527 are:

CAS Registry Number Chemical Name
57-55-6 1,2-Propanediol
111-76-2 Ethanol, 2-butoxy-*
577-11-7 Butanedioic acid, 2-sulfo-, 1,4-bis(2-ethylhexyl) ester, sodium salt (1:1)
1338-43-8 Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate
9005-65-6 Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs.
9005-70-3 Sorbitan, tri-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs
29911-28-2 2-Propanol, 1-(2-butoxy-1-methylethoxy)-
64742-47-8 Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light

*Note: This chemical component (Ethanol, 2-butoxy-) is not included in the composition of Corexit 9500.

One note about the oil industry that I've learned from work (we sometimes test chemicals for efficacy, usually corrosion inhibitors and the like) -- even if you can prove to the oil producers that the chemicals they're using in any particular section of pipeline facility don't work under the prevailing conditions, they likely won't change to another chemical producer's product even if it means that their pipeline will likely develop leaks (which means down production time and possibly costs for replacing corroded pipe sections).

Why?

Well, my boss told me that back in the 60s and 70s, it was commonplace for the chemical vendors to supply hookers and other recreational perks to the oilfield staff making the purchasing decisions. Built a lot of loyalty to their brand that way.
Supposedly those practices were stopped.

Supposedly...

Also, it's been our experience that often within the oil companies, people are promoted into positions for which they have no real practical or educational experience and don't really understand the finer details of their jobs. Hence, bad decisions are made not because the people are evil but because they simply don't know any better.

The Peter Principle ... alive and well in the oil industry.
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Okay, this makes a whole lot more sense to me than 'the aliens done it'.

Re O2 content: here's a link that expressed concern about the low content back in Aug '10.
[link to e360.yale.edu]

And here, from Mar. 2011: O2 levels almost 0% at Redondo Beach:
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

Jun. 2010: low O2 in GoM:
[link to www.nola.com]

It's probably been posted here before, but here are the (major) ingredients of Corexit:
[link to www.ufppc.org]

The components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527 are:

CAS Registry Number Chemical Name
57-55-6 1,2-Propanediol
111-76-2 Ethanol, 2-butoxy-*
577-11-7 Butanedioic acid, 2-sulfo-, 1,4-bis(2-ethylhexyl) ester, sodium salt (1:1)
1338-43-8 Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate
9005-65-6 Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs.
9005-70-3 Sorbitan, tri-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs
29911-28-2 2-Propanol, 1-(2-butoxy-1-methylethoxy)-
64742-47-8 Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light

*Note: This chemical component (Ethanol, 2-butoxy-) is not included in the composition of Corexit 9500.

One note about the oil industry that I've learned from work (we sometimes test chemicals for efficacy, usually corrosion inhibitors and the like) -- even if you can prove to the oil producers that the chemicals they're using in any particular section of pipeline facility don't work under the prevailing conditions, they likely won't change to another chemical producer's product even if it means that their pipeline will likely develop leaks (which means down production time and possibly costs for replacing corroded pipe sections).

Why?

Well, my boss told me that back in the 60s and 70s, it was commonplace for the chemical vendors to supply hookers and other recreational perks to the oilfield staff making the purchasing decisions. Built a lot of loyalty to their brand that way.
Supposedly those practices were stopped.

Supposedly...

...

The Peter Principle ... alive and well in the oil industry.
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Thanks for the links. I'll look at them tomorrow.

About the components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527, I believe I recall that both BP and NALCO admit that this is not a complete list, that the omitted components are "proprietary."
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Thanks for the links. I'll look at them tomorrow.

About the components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527, I believe I recall that both BP and NALCO admit that this is not a complete list, that the omitted components are "proprietary."
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Yes, that wouldn't surprise me. Chemical vendors are very protective of their formulae, even under far less critical circumstances.
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BREAKING NEWS: 2 car pile up in Mexico yesterday. 40 people died.

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Thanks for the links. I'll look at them tomorrow.

About the components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527, I believe I recall that both BP and NALCO admit that this is not a complete list, that the omitted components are "proprietary."
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Yes, that wouldn't surprise me. Chemical vendors are very protective of their formulae, even under far less critical circumstances.
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you have missed the point of this thread logical as your posts may seem oil exec mistakes don't sink submarines! If there was no sinking of any sub's this thread would not exist. True or false that is still the reason for this thread
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Always love your focus SouthCarolina. hf hf

Regardless of the 'bent' on which people interpret information, your points are super valid regarding simple conditions for life to thrive. Oxygen.

In amongst all of MzKs stuff and a few of mine is reference to massive amounts of CO2 created by some of the bacteria placed in the reserves beneath the gulf.

Could the processes being used also be depleting oxygen from the waters? and leaving CO2 as the byproduct from both oil and oxygen consumption?

It just seems that these massive amounts of CO2 come from somewhere. The corexit issue confuses me even more as to what its true purpose is.

The more I learn about the practices of this industry, operating right under our noses, the more I think it is a total cover for something else, a means unto an end. Our addiction fuels it.

Even if you dont buy in to that ^^, I think some simple chemistry, regarding the make up of elements, but on a grand scale is at play here.
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According to US officials "massive amounts of CO2" are produced in the process of obtaining energy (oil, gas, coal) and in productions of goods when using that energy. This was the explanation for what was called "Cap and Trade" to market shares of energy credits.

French AVERA appears to be n expert on CO2 and Cap and Trade theory, with other European countries already structured for tax credits. For example, the Norwegians have stored the maximum possible amount of CO2 under the North Sea in a reservoir so they don't have to pay tax on the CO2. (Just imagine if that balloon of CO2 should spring a leak.)

In other words, we are told that we are producing more CO2 than the earth's environment can handle. So the purpose of creating additional CO2 in the Gulf is what? To kill us? Or, is this an attempt to force the US to set up Cap and Trade in the markets?

The Europeans have been into CO2 issues for some time, moreso than we have in the US. Perhaps we are late waking up to the significant problems. Yet, basically it is a conglomerate of European-based businesses which have poisoned the Gulf, with a little help from US government agencies.
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We are not producing more then the Earth can handle ...
[link to www.twi.co.uk]


SNIPS :
"-Injection into active oil wells
Direct injection into oil wells to increase recovery rates is an established technology, practised both on and offshore. The USA leads the use of CO 2 for enhancing oil recovery, and uses over 32 million tonnes of CO 2 for this purpose annually.

This approach is able to sequester carbon at low net cost, due to the revenues from recovered oil/gas. While the technologies involved in oil well enhancement are established, their more general application across the oil industry as a whole will demand a scaling up of manufacturing operations. Similar technical considerations will apply to sequestration in depleted oil and gas wells.


-Ocean sequestration
The oceans already contain some 140 000 Billion tonnes of CO 2 , an amount that dwarfs the annual human production of around 22 Billion tonnes. The amount of carbon that would double the load in the atmosphere would increase the concentration in the deep ocean by only two percent. Ocean sequestration occurs naturally (some 90% of current emissions will eventually be absorbed by the sea), and sequestration studies have therefore concentrated on accelerating the process. Both shallow and deep level sequestration are potentially possible.


-Shallow ocean sequestration
Injection of CO 2 into shallow ocean layers may be used to increase the growth of phytoplankton and thus stimulate the ocean food chain. Iron additions to the ocean may be used to stimulate biological growth in areas that would otherwise be low in phytoplankton and hence higher forms of life. Although this approach has been used experimentally, there are few data to show that the CO 2 absorbed is actually sequestered for long periods.


-Deep ocean sequestration
The deep oceans have enormous sequestration potential because of their vast size and the favourable physical conditions (high pressure, low temperature, low life content) that operate at depths of greater than around 800m. Two broad classes of deep ocean sequestration are under consideration:

The direct injection of liquid at depths in excess of 1000m from static or moving pipes. The liquid CO 2 would form lakes, or combine with water to form CO 2 clathrate, (an ice compound, in which 44 water molecules form a lattice that traps up to 8 CO 2 molecules in small 'cages'). Deep ocean sequestration using liquid CO 2 could be scaled up to handle large tonnages of CO 2 , but the ecological impact of this approach is unknown.
Production of ice-encapsulated solid CO 2 projectiles of 100-1000 tonnes, which would free-fall into deep ocean and bury themselves under sediment, allowing slow combination. This approach appears to offer less risk to marine organisms, but its cost and complexity will be higher than liquid injection.
Both of these approaches would require new technologies for handling and deploying large amounts of gaseous, and liquid and/or solid CO 2 .The main barriers to use are likely to be ecological and economic, rather than technological."




What I also understand from the above,
is that iron add is done so that phytoplankton can grow faster, coz due to the spill a lot of this phytoplankton might be damaged and dead ... so by feeding the left-over they will multiply faster.
Just remember that Synthia grew also quicker by the iron-add ...

The Ocean is absorbing so much Co2 (90% of our emissions) that we would not be able to kill ourselves.
The "Co2-doom" is yet another lie that we have been fed ...

- oceans contain 140 000 Billion tonnes of CO 2
- human production 22 Billion tonnes
- Ocean absorbs 90% of the 22 B
- 32 million tonnes CO 2 for enhancing oil recovery


They could use Co2 to mask scruw-ups : iron and C02 add encreases phytoplancton > what will increases food chain again , so marine life will visit the former damaged/depleted oxigen area/low food area again.
(So it seems that we now finaly discovered the WHY behind the huge amounths of IRON in the sampled water -sea and rain- ...)

They have more then enough Co2 to use (2,2 billion tonnes), and a lot of possibilities that let them use the Co2 in their advancement, and a lot of ways to get rid of it.
They are really not concerned about OUR emissions, they are only concerned about OUR TAX (their fundings).
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Thanks for the links. I'll look at them tomorrow.

About the components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527, I believe I recall that both BP and NALCO admit that this is not a complete list, that the omitted components are "proprietary."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1356005


Yes, that wouldn't surprise me. Chemical vendors are very protective of their formulae, even under far less critical circumstances.
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you have missed the point of this thread logical as your posts may seem oil exec mistakes don't sink submarines! If there was no sinking of any sub's this thread would not exist. True or false that is still the reason for this thread
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Hello Blue ET,

NO SUB was SUNKEN.
There was only a sub that had damage ...

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

-OP 11:39 AM Ok good news. French captain he now says his sub not sunk only badly damaged, 17 sailor injured. Asking for assistance and rescue. He says attack from aircraft and not another submarine.

-OP 11:48 AM Attack from US helicopter. All sailors bleeding from ear.
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There were also other problem like magnetical issues, buoyancy, romp issues, gravitational, etc ...

The additional adding of huge amounths of IRON would/could explain some of the above issues.
Iron is highly magnetical > flocking on romps and hulls ...
Corexit (or an other substance, I have to look it up in the resumé's) was eating away material on boats and subs, some of them needed to go back in the doks for repaintjobs.
Many more NATURAL things that could be of influence were discussed in this thread.
I will look for them in my resumé's and repost them for a better view and understanding.
lets keep a global and panoramic view instead of narrowing it down to 2 or 3 things ...

xx MzK

hf

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Thanks for the links. I'll look at them tomorrow.

About the components of COREXIT 9500 and 9527, I believe I recall that both BP and NALCO admit that this is not a complete list, that the omitted components are "proprietary."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1356005


Yes, that wouldn't surprise me. Chemical vendors are very protective of their formulae, even under far less critical circumstances.
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you have missed the point of this thread logical as your posts may seem oil exec mistakes don't sink submarines! If there was no sinking of any sub's this thread would not exist. True or false that is still the reason for this thread
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No, I didn't miss the point. My comments were meant to be more general regarding the oil industry as a whole.

I know that what happened with the BP spill involved much more than simple human error.
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2. Hatonn here to set your minds at ease. I assure you, both situations can and will be safely resolved (Japan and GOM )and there will be NO long-term damage! At the moment, however, it’s a matter of containment. Our scientists are filtering into the minds of workers at the facility and off-site personnel what actions to take to prevent meltdown of the damaged reactors—they would call that filtration process their “ideas” or “inspirations.” Our small crew near the facility in conjunction with off-planet crews are reducing radiation to the extent possible and the technology on the ships is helping to minimize the reactors’ activity.

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2. Hatonn here to set your minds at ease. I assure you, both situations can and will be safely resolved (Japan and GOM )and there will be NO long-term damage! At the moment, however, it’s a matter of containment. Our scientists are filtering into the minds of workers at the facility and off-site personnel what actions to take to prevent meltdown of the damaged reactors—they would call that filtration process their “ideas” or “inspirations.” Our small crew near the facility in conjunction with off-planet crews are reducing radiation to the extent possible and the technology on the ships is helping to minimize the reactors’ activity.


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For some reason, I do not feel reassured.


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