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Thread: The Coverup of American Archeology

an interesting read. "The Coverup of American Archeology"
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tangential?

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

from
Thread: OH NO!!! WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO THE SUN??!!!

new to me...........
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Hey Krispy and BHD, you both make good points.

I'm just feeling my way through this -- I've been away from all this kind of stuff for several years now and am now feeling a huge internal impetus to absorb as much info as I can. But I'm nowhere near the level of those who've been consistently whittling away at the veil for years, so please forgive my comments that don't make sense. :D I'm still trying to gather all the threads to make a tapestry of some kind of logical picture.

What I mean by a controlled burn is what they do in the "Natural Resources" department here (who, over the years, learned about it by watching the results of Nature's own natural fires): setting an area alight to burn away the dross and any trouble spots (like insect infestation). The chemical changes brought about by the fire assist in 'fertilizing' the area, and aid in regrowth and regeneration.

I'm totally on board with the idea of symbiosis, but I think it goes even further than just the relationship between Earth and us. I think that everything -- and I mean everything is connected -- all part of the Source.

Krispy, I think you and I are looking at the progression of Earth from different parts of the same line. I agree about the relationship being necessary, but I think that we're at the end of that process, that Earth has already progressed to the point where it's ready to move up.

Maybe that's why it needs that period of healing time?? I'm not really conversant with all the whole theory of different densities -- I had touched on it years back but followed other paths of investigation so only learned about it in a very superficial kind of way. But now I'm back at it, and like I said, trying to feel my way through.

Maybe Earth needs to be rid of all 3rd density inhabitants before it can move up to 4th density?? Of course, many humans here will be moving to 4th density too, so maybe they'll be able to continue living on Earth??

The thing that tickles me is the idea that TPTB, who for thousands of years and over several iterations of 'civilization', have controlled things here and who have become so arrogant as to think that it would always be that way, are just as much at the mercy of the Changes. All their planning and scheming to live through the Earth changes, and here they find themselves also trying to deal with the galactic changes as well. And doesn't that just have their panties all in a twist !

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Hey Krispy and BHD, you both make good points.

I'm just feeling my way through this -- I've been away from all this kind of stuff for several years now and am now feeling a huge internal impetus to absorb as much info as I can. But I'm nowhere near the level of those who've been consistently whittling away at the veil for years, so please forgive my comments that don't make sense. :D I'm still trying to gather all the threads to make a tapestry of some kind of logical picture.

What I mean by a controlled burn is what they do in the "Natural Resources" department here (who, over the years, learned about it by watching the results of Nature's own natural fires): setting an area alight to burn away the dross and any trouble spots (like insect infestation). The chemical changes brought about by the fire assist in 'fertilizing' the area, and aid in regrowth and regeneration.

I'm totally on board with the idea of symbiosis, but I think it goes even further than just the relationship between Earth and us. I think that everything -- and I mean everything is connected -- all part of the Source.

Krispy, I think you and I are looking at the progression of Earth from different parts of the same line. I agree about the relationship being necessary, but I think that we're at the end of that process, that Earth has already progressed to the point where it's ready to move up.

Maybe that's why it needs that period of healing time?? I'm not really conversant with all the whole theory of different densities -- I had touched on it years back but followed other paths of investigation so only learned about it in a very superficial kind of way. But now I'm back at it, and like I said, trying to feel my way through.

Maybe Earth needs to be rid of all 3rd density inhabitants before it can move up to 4th density?? Of course, many humans here will be moving to 4th density too, so maybe they'll be able to continue living on Earth??

The thing that tickles me is the idea that TPTB, who for thousands of years and over several iterations of 'civilization', have controlled things here and who have become so arrogant as to think that it would always be that way, are just as much at the mercy of the Changes. All their planning and scheming to live through the Earth changes, and here they find themselves also trying to deal with the galactic changes as well. And doesn't that just have their panties all in a twist !

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Well its sounds like you are doing a great job of as you say "feeling your way throught its"

Also there is something very appealing about your saying they may have "there panties in a twist".lol. Nothing would be more appropriate. rken
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It really is, isn't rken

A reminder to them that they are not the most powerful force.

A big ol' serving of humble pie is on the menu, I think.

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2012 The Truth from David Ash
[link to www.radiofm88.com.au]
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if someone is searching Geoff Stray "Beyond 2012":
[link to www.scribd.com]

A interesting read for the weekend
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damned WOW .. seems that I was on the right track after all !!!!

The new post on Next his thread, is about ACO revealing something related with BEZERK what he posted on his Bezerk.net ...




This is Aco's post on his forum :

Why Did The Rand Rubicon Revealers Decide on the name BEZERK
by Acolyte » April 23rd, 2011, 3:15 am


Here is one of many secondary reasons, but its not the primary. With all the talk about the Japan Radiation fallout I thought it right time to let this out to help and get bezerk back on track as to what it really is "they" trying to tell us. (The Primary is still classified and not part of the "Reveal'. It falls under NIID or "NEED")
The Barbarian "Berzerk" phenomena is commonly reffered to in the scientific realm as the Cherenkov Effect.


Read more here : [link to bezerk.net]
 Quoting: Aco @ bezerk.net





Its about Cherenkov radiation, and I posted info about it on page : 1203 at 4/5/2011 7:50 AM (and a snip-re-post at page 1221)
Thread: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine (Page 1203)


SNIP QUOTE

* ??? FUKUSHIMA & neutrino's ??? and the sun ???


IceCube In Ice Antarctic Telescope » Journals
[link to www.polartrec.net]

"This morning, Jim Madsen, physics professor and IceCube researcher from the University of Wisconsin-River Falls, arrived to the PolarTREC training. I and the other KSTF Fellows spoke with Jim at length about the project, including expectations and our roles as PolarTREC teachers. Jim enlightened us about the nature of neutrinos and how the IceCube detector works to detect them. We had a lot of questions for Jim about neutrinos and how we can study them!

...

Neutrinos can be created due to radioactive decay of elements like potassium. Nuclear reactors and bombs can create neutrinos; the sun and other stars create neutrinos. But these are "low" energy neutrinos, not what IceCube is trying to detect. IceCube is looking for high energy neutrinos created in "cataclysmic" galactic events, such as collisions of black holes and perhaps mysterious events called gamma-ray bursts."




>>> Could there be a reason for the troubles at the nuclear plants that we -simple people- do not understand,
and that is related to the changes in the sun ??

>>> What does more radioactive particles do to the sun FTE (Flux Transfer Event) ????
(maybe we could look towards changes in the sun before and after Chernobyl ... to understand a possible connection between Fukushims and the sun ...)

>>> And again : does all the saltmining fit into this ? Potassium mining ?

>>> ICECUBE ???? POLAR-TREC ???? .... This is NO coincedence !!!
Just a few posts back AC and BHD spoke about how and if ICE could store/contain frequencies !!! ICE-CUBE !!!!


"• On the extremely rare instance when a neutrino hits the nucleus of an atom, it ends up creating a new charged particle which flies through the ice at very high speeds. As this new particle moves though the ice, it causes a dim trail of light called "Cherenkov radiation."
this light is detected by hundreds of sensors buried deep in the ice. The scientists use data from the sensors to determine the energy of the original neutrino, and the direction from which it came."




Cherenkov radiation :
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"As a charged particle travels, it disrupts the local electromagnetic field (EM) in its medium. Electrons in the atoms of the medium will be displaced, and the atoms become polarized by the passing EM field of a charged particle. Photons are emitted as an insulator's electrons restore themselves to equilibrium after the disruption has passed. (In a conductor, the EM disruption can be restored without emitting a photon.) In normal circumstances, these photons destructively interfere with each other and no radiation is detected. However, when a disruption which travels faster than light is propagating through the medium, the photons constructively interfere and intensify the observed radiation."

>>> For a quick moment I had to think about OP's "splashzones" ....
This explains why the dont have to occur only in WATER, but also (assumably) happened in Greenland on the ICE, and on/in soil in OZ ... and potentially everywhere.


"Nuclear reactors
Cherenkov radiation is used to detect high-energy charged particles. In pool-type nuclear reactors, the intensity of Cherenkov radiation is related to the frequency of the fission events that produce high-energy electrons, and hence is a measure of the intensity of the reaction. Similarly, Cherenkov radiation is used to characterize the remaining radioactivity of spent fuel rods.

Astrophysics experiments
When a high-energy (TeV) gamma photon or cosmic ray interacts with the Earth's atmosphere, it may produce an electron-positron pair with enormous velocities. The Cherenkov radiation from these charged particles is used to determine the source and intensity of the cosmic ray, which is used for example in the Imaging Atmospheric Cherenkov Technique (IACT), by experiments such as VERITAS, H.E.S.S., and MAGIC. Similar methods are used in very large neutrino detectors, such as the Super-Kamiokande, the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory (SNO) and IceCube. In the Pierre Auger Observatory and other similar projects tanks filled with water observe the Cherenkov radiation caused by muons, electrons and positrons of particle showers which are caused by cosmic rays.

Cherenkov radiation can also be used to determine properties of high-energy astronomical objects that emit gamma rays, such as supernova remnants and blazars. This is done by projects such as STACEE, a gamma ray detector in New Mexico.

...

The most advanced type of a detector is the RICH, or ring imaging Cherenkov detector, developed in the 1980s. In a RICH detector, a cone of Cherenkov light is produced when a high speed charged particle traverses a suitable gaseous or liquid medium, often called radiator. This light cone is detected on a position sensitive planar photon detector, which allows reconstructing a ring or disc, the radius of which is a measure for the Cherenkov emission angle. Both focusing and proximity-focusing detectors are in use. In a focusing RICH detector, the photons are collected by a spherical mirror and focused onto the photon detector placed at the focal plane. The result is a circle with a radius independent of the emission point along the particle track. This scheme is suitable for low refractive index radiators—i.e. gases—due to the larger radiator length needed to create enough photons. In the more compact proximity-focusing design, a thin radiator volume emits a cone of Cherenkov light which traverses a small distance—the proximity gap—and is detected on the photon detector plane. The image is a ring of light, the radius of which is defined by the Cherenkov emission angle and the proximity gap. The ring thickness is determined by the thickness of the radiator. An example of a proximity gap RICH detector is the High Momentum Particle Identification Detector (HMPID),[5] a detector currently under construction for ALICE (A Large Ion Collider Experiment), one of the six experiments at the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) at CERN."


 Quoting: krispy




The words that attracked my attention within that info were :
- EM-field, polarized atoms/particles,
(and in the other info I read back then on wiki : photonic crystal !!)

- "The phase velocity can be altered dramatically by employing a periodic medium" >>> calibrators or adding certain MEDIUMS in the water (with the dispersants, anti-freeze and corexit fluids) like we saw on BP-vids ...

- "The Cherenkov radiation from these charged particles is used to determine the source and intensity of the cosmic ray, which is used for example in the Imaging Atmospheric Cherenkov Technique (IACT), " >>>> and that made me think about the SPLASHZONES !

- "by experiments such as VERITAS, H.E.S.S., and MAGIC."
In his text below, Aco talks also about MAGIC ARROWS, which in my opinion is "code" incrypted in normal text ... like Aco earlier explained that is the way he works. The "Arrow" is a pointer, which could refer to splashzone or incomming space-beam !!! i.e. just cosmic photon rays.

- "a cone of Cherenkov light is produced when a high speed charged particle traverses a suitable gaseous or liquid medium, often called radiator." >>> This made me think back to the strange lights we saw on the BP-vids ... (just made me think, I dont say they were the same)




siren2 OMG : FRAUD ???

You will have noticed and seen that Aco copied snips of wiki, and added "other" info to it.

I thought that there were codewords in it, like: third anual - claw vipers - lengthy eclipses ... and others in the other parts.

But when I went to google them and see what relation they had with Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov,
then I found this : [link to diablo.incgamers.com]

HIS WHOLE POST IS COPIED FROM A POST ON AN OTHER GAMERS-SITE !!!!! POSTED BY goobergrabe AT 25-01-2005, 02:16


wth




Reading more on that page, there is WIERD info on there, that seems to connect with bezerk-info ...


Remarkable posts :
- (p1 Silospen) A barbarian must learn to carefully tread the line between passion and rage, sperating one and drawing strength from both. Beserk crosses the line into rage, expending the sum of his energy and slaying everything.

- (p2 HDCrash) Throught the training of the Barbarians, thier skill is determined by thier amount of time they devote to what they study. Along the way they discovered, though thier studies, that if they focus thier minds they could achieve "super human" feats. This could be described as "Chi", through the harnessing of thier "inner Strenth" they could "Focus" it for an Unbeatable attack. In conclusion, The result of the Beserker attack can be explained more of the Mental toughness of the barbarian, Not the phyiscal.

(there seems to be Capital Code in his answers , just have a look yourself!!!!)

- (NSXDreamer) Iron maiden summons a spring loaded spike, when disturbed it pops out and stab whoever disturbed it. It's not long enough to stab ranged attackers.

(seems to refer to AUgie and calibrators ..)

- (Grimfeng) 8) Fade increases the space between ones molecules so that energies may pass harmlessly though and chemicals may not react easily with the body. Burst of speed would probably be deadly to a Faded assassin dispersing the molecules even farther than Fade would allow even as to be unretrievable.

- (p3 CKB) Have you ever had a necro over for dinner? Don't serve Mexican food, if you know what I mean.

(mexican food ... GOM food ?)

- (Magus) Our atmosphere is filled with microorganisms, many of which produce toxins. The necromancer merely concentrates these toxins with his "magic" and spread them in a circular array.

(Spirals ??? -and chemtrails-)

- (Spiral55) 1) The barbarian does not actually strike his foe with his weapon, thus no physical damage. By swinging his weapon, not so much an instrument of destruction as it is a focus mechanism, at his opponent, he is directing that rage at the target, inflicting terrible damage to the spirit and psyche without actually touching the opponent. Effects like cold damage or crushing blow are also channeled through this directed hatred. Further, the likelihood of the victim being damaged by this anger is determined by the barbarian's ability as a warrior.

(US, WE .. bezerkers ... used as a directing focus mechanism, ... inflicting terrible damage to the spirit and psyche (of augie, and China) without actually touching the opponent !!! WTF !!! )

6) All beings have spiritual energy which can be harnassed and channeled by those who know the techniques. How they use the techniques is immaterial to how the energies are used.

(RAND techniques, ...)

- (DeathMaster) 1. Easy, being a Chinese, it is easy to understand. Berzerk is a skill like certain Chinese Kongfu. When a barb swing a zerk attack, he uses energy from internal body and mind, the Strength is from inside, sort of like magic attack. The form of physical swing damage is transfered into "QI", but delivered by physical contact.

(Again, were they -RAND- trying to use our mental energy to attack a lifeform ? By growing a collective PLOT and direction, they AIMed the gathered energy to achieve something in the outside world !!!! Our mental and inner energy could have been used to set a stage, and as a poison ... They used our QI = CHI !
[link to en.wikipedia.org] )

- ETC ...


Now is this a BUMP or not ????

bump

xxx MzK

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So why would ACO copied that post from that "DIABLO" (!!!???) gamerssite ?
Why would he subtile direct people to there,
people who do research on words and combinations ?

In this title of his thread on .net he actually sais that RAND choose BEZERK from there, so that implicates that this is also a site like no_spam_for_you .... RAND was watching there, otherwise they wouldnt have found it and used it.

THINK people !!!
And FEEL !

RAND's PLOT here on GLP was lost,
their prepaired tactic did not work out they way they wanted to ... and gave them lots of insight and information on how to do things differently ... psy-ops ...

Imo, its about creating an energyfield and an enviroment with a certain goal, to use and direct collective energy(fields) to a target somewhere else,
without the need of physical contact ...
Our brain(waves) are the most dangerous weapons, or a strong defender, (depends on which side you are on).
We are made WARRIORS ... (hence the recrutements...)

The name and meaning of BEZERK holds the key to understand what kind of psy-ops project this really is.

THINK ! SEE ...



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the gamer also copied the info straight from wiki...


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


You know KR you make some good points...but personally I wish you could get past your feelings of anathema for Aco..and just post the relevant information..please??? It's so hard to read all the anti Aco this anti Aco that crap in your posts..you ruin your own information..and lots of pertinent info is most likely missed because people are tired of it..

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the gamer also copied the info straight from wiki...


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: breezy


No Breezy, not STRAIGHT !
The gamer copied snips of wiki and added info of himself to it.
Aco copied whole the gamerspost.

So, Breezy, why would ACO do that ?
And not direct his post back to the origional poster and gamerssite, but make it look like it is a post from Aco himself ???

If Aco wanted to know that its just CH-radiation then he just should have copied from Wiki himself, which he did not do at all.

I visited and read the wiki page on CH-radiation myself when I made that long post. And I linked the info back to the source I had it from,
which Aco did not do.

xx MzK
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Did you ever think that the gamer copied it from another site, and then added in what he needed to explain the phenomenae that they see in their game? Like MAGIC ARROWS?

It looks more like Aco just copied the first reference for chernenkov radiation he found so he could make his point.


Try this as the original location of the article. Without magic arrows.


[link to www.medical-answers.org]


And stop being so goddamn melodramatic and jumping to conclusions that have no base. You try so hard to make a quick post that you don't research well. Then try to throw a wall of text to cover any mistakes. This mistake was too obvious. Slow down. breath.
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

-Men in Black
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the gamer also copied the info straight from wiki...


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


You know KR you make some good points...but personally I wish you could get past your feelings of anathema for Aco..and just post the relevant information..please??? It's so hard to read all the anti Aco this anti Aco that crap in your posts..you ruin your own information..and lots of pertinent info is most likely missed because people are tired of it..
 Quoting: breezy



to answer to your edid-add:


This is not at all an ANTI-ACO thing ...lol... Coz as you know, there are also points that I do believe he is saying accurate things, and shared "real" info with us. but also things that I think are Blue Schoes and just tactics.

I do with Aco like I would do with anyone. Dont swallow before you did some research, and made up your mind on the possibilities.

Isnt the fact that he works for RAND and their tactics relevant ???
I just proved that his post was crap-not-from-himself. So my post is certainly not crap ...lol...
I dont ruin MY information,
that is up to the one who decides that he does not want to read things coz they are not what they wanna read, regardless the truth of it ... > that is just plain stupid for themselves, imo.

People decide for themselves what they wanna read, so its their own thing if they missed out info.

I am not the only one to blame for people getting tired of disses and leaving the thread ...

Just for yourself BR, you just could have refered to the thing that you think that I made some good points, and tell all of us what they are/were and how it fits into your vision.
But instead you choose to start about my so called "anti Aco thing".
If you had reacted on the good info then you had atributed to the thread instead of making it personal again.


We all, in this thread did nothing but question and analize ... I still do, not only towards Aco but towards everyone. Sometimes we agree, other times we dont. Most of the times we respect the outcome.
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Did you ever think that the gamer copied it from another site, and then added in what he needed to explain the phenomenae that they see in their game? Like MAGIC ARROWS?

It looks more like Aco just copied the first reference for chernenkov radiation he found so he could make his point.


Try this as the original location of the article. Without magic arrows.


[link to www.medical-answers.org]


And stop being so goddamn melodramatic and jumping to conclusions that have no base. You try so hard to make a quick post that you don't research well. Then try to throw a wall of text to cover any mistakes. This mistake was too obvious. Slow down. breath.
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lol... I dont research well ????



Watch :
This is copied from the .net post of ACO.
What Aco typed himself is in green.
What is wiki-info is in blue.
What is personal gamer-input is in indigo.


Why Did The Rand Rubicon Revealers Decide on the name BEZERK
by Acolyte » April 23rd, 2011, 3:15 am


Here is one of many secondary reasons, but its not the primary. With all the talk about the Japan Radiation fallout I thought it right time to let this out to help and get bezerk back on track as to what it really is "they" trying to tell us. (The Primary is still classified and not part of the "Reveal'. It falls under NIID or "NEED")
The Barbarian "Berzerk" phenomena is commonly reffered to in the scientific realm as the Cherenkov Effect.


Cherenkov radiation (also spelled Cerenkov) is electromagnetic radiation emitted when a charged particle passes through an insulator at a speed greater than that of light in the medium. The characteristic "blue glow" of nuclear reactors is due to Cherenkov radiation. It is named for Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov, the 1958 Nobel Prize winner who was the first to rigorously characterize it. I had the pleasure of meeting Cherenkov at the third annual Lut Gholein Scientific Forum, where he gave his thesis on claw vipers. Drognan and I thoroughly disagreed on the topic, as he was sure that claw vipers could never be responsible for lengthy eclipses.

While relativity holds that the speed of light in a vacuum is a universal constant (c), the speed of light in a material may be significantly less than c. For example, the speed of light in water is only 0.75c. Matter can be accelerated beyond this speed during nuclear reactions and in particle accelerators. Cherenkov radiation results when a charged particle, most commonly an electron, exceeds the speed of light in a dielectric medium through which it passes. The study of teleportation, however, relies heavily on twentieth-century "historical documents", starring the now-legendary barbarian William Shatner, and its students are commonly referred to as "Trekkies", thus it has no scientific or historical tie to Cherenkov.

As a charged particle travels, it disrupts the local electromagnetic field in its medium. Electrons in the atoms of the medium will be displaced and polarized by the passing EM field of a charged particle. Photons are emitted as an insulator's electrons restore themselves to equilibrium after the disruption has passed. (In a conductor, the EM disruption can be restored without emitting a photon.) In normal circumstances, these photons destructively interfere with each other and no radiation is detected. However, when the disruption travels faster than the photons themselves travel, the photons constructively interfere and intensify the observed radiation. This explains the white haze that surrounds Magic Arrows, which is of course a misnomer. They should technically be renamed Very Fast Arrows, but the company that holds the current copyright on the "Magic Arrow" nameplate just happens to be the same thinkgroup that patented Lawn Darts and Stamina Potions in the late 70's, thus it remains an inside joke for a waning few intellectuals.

A common analogy is the sonic boom of a supersonic aircraft or bullet. The sound waves generated by the supersonic body do not move fast enough to get out of the way of the body itself. Hence, the waves "stack up" and form a shock front. Similarly, a speed boat generates a large bow shock because it travels faster than waves can move on the surface of the water. Or when a massive quadriped rears up and smashes the ground in front of him with his paws. In the same way, a superluminal charged particle generates a photonic shockwave as it travels through an insulator.

Moreover, the velocity of light that must be exceeded is the phase velocity rather than the group velocity. The phase velocity can be altered dramatically by employing a periodic medium, and in that case one can even achieve Cherenkov radiation with no minimum particle velocity, a phenomenon known as the Smith-Purcell effect. In a more complex periodic medium, such as a photonic crystal, one can also obtain a variety of other anomalous Cherenkov effects, such as radiation in a backwards direction (whereas ordinary Cherenkov radiation forms an acute angle with the particle velocity).

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Dear HD, with the link to that gamersite I proved my base.
The post wasnt quick, it took me more then an hour to read all the posts and copy/past what I thought stood out. ...lol..
A wall of text indeed, but full with acurate quotes and reasonable questions. No mistakes here :)


Your link to that medical answers-site did not inclue the indigo text. Your mistake it seems , maybe you wer a bit to hasty ...

Yes the gamer copied from wiki or an other site, to explain things. That is obveous ... but what is NOT obveous is why Aco was so clumbsy to do not see that additional personal info added by the poster ...
It is NOTHING for Aco to not see that and just post SOMETHING in a hurry or first find ... We all know Aco a bit longer then yesterday. He does nothing without a reason.

Aco posted THIS special post from that gamersite with a reason, but did not included the origional source, and made it look/seem like it was his own ... for a reason.


xx MzK
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I thought I had something to say but changed my mind. All I can come up with at the moment is Here we go again!
Tio
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I thought I had something to say but changed my mind. All I can come up with at the moment is Here we go again!
 Quoting: tiomio


I apologize Tio...for myself only..
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Warning: The following post is probably a result of hanging out at GLP too much.

However ...

This is an interesting list:

[link to www.recordnerd.com]


FYI: GooberGrape was the person whose post Acolyte quoted.
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[link to www.omega.com]

doing a search for harmonic calibrators...came up with OMEGA engineering.....OMEGA where have I heard that name before?

<10:35>: So the calibrator sets a signal standard for a system that was already on board
<10:36>[Z]: yes, exactly
<10:36>[Z]: it has to be a standard
<10:36>: The calibrator then must test the organism directly in some way
<10:36>[Z]: and certified
<10:36>: yes
<10:36>[Z]: yes, I would think it measures the frequency and then adjusts to it
<10:37>[Z]: probably like a RIFE*of sorts
<10:37>: The signal frequency?
<10:37>: signal from space?
<10:37>[Z]: the freq of the organism
<10:38>: OOOhh.. nasty
<10:38>[Z]: measure it and then adjust the calibrator
<10:38>: Like they do to test subjects to alter mind and thought maybe?
<10:38>[Z]: problem is..the org could be gaining intelligence so fast it might not matter about the calibrators


Acoustic calibrators also

[link to www.casellausa.com]

[link to www.bing.com]

[link to www.clarion.org]


[link to www.rigzone.com]

anyway, more random thoughts...
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Warning: The following post is probably a result of hanging out at GLP too much.

However ...

This is an interesting list:

[link to www.recordnerd.com]


FYI: GooberGrape was the person whose post Acolyte quoted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352657


Yes it is. Tnx !


I and a girlfriend went out sniffling on some things too.

The sentence :
"I had the pleasure of meeting Cherenkov at the third annual Lut Gholein Scientific Forum, where he gave his thesis on claw vipers. "



Cherenkov died in 1990.

Lut Gholein = place at the Diablo site and also at Call of Duty.

Diablo > 1997
COD > 2003

I think that COD and Diablo are the same kind of recruting and psy-ops places likno_spam_for_you and WoW.
(there is a gamer called Cherenkov at WoW.)


Claw viper is a temple in Diablo.

So Cherenkov must be an other gamersname in Diablo, and not the scientist Cherenkov, who died 15 years before GG posted his words.

On a google search for Chernkov, claw vipers
I came acros this !!!
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]
Just read ... wow... how many similar things as in the bezerk-thread !!! (if you dont get it, I will make time to spell it out ...lol..)



BINGO !!!!!
Aco never posts anything without a reason !


Google Diablo, Cherenkov

* Japan quake ignites Diablo nuclear concerns
March 18, 2011
By KAREN VELIE

In the aftermath of Japan’s nuclear calamity, concerns about Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant’s ability to withstand an earthquake and media reports that safety plans do not include earthquake procedures have the public demanding answers.

(snip)
Even though the Nuclear Regulatory Commission concluded that Diablo Canyon’s design would withstand a potential earthquake on the Shoreline Fault, “The fault’s major characteristics are largely unknown, e.g., its length, proximity to the plant and relationship to the Hosgri Fault (whether an earthquake beginning on the Hosgri Fault could continue on the Shoreline Fault, or vice versa, causing a larger earthquake than if either fault broke on its own), and whether this fault or fault displays could extend beneath the plant,” a California Energy Commission research report says.


Read more : [link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]


Then :
* The acronym DIRC
- Detection of Internally Reflected Cherenkov
- Diablo International Resource Center
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]
Isnt that a coincedense ???



Very interresting too :

Lake BAIKAL, neutrino's and Cherenkov light :


* Mount Diablo Astronomical Society
The NT-200 Telescope, Lake Baikal and Neutrinos
President’s Corner


(snip)
The NT-200 telescope does not point up to the cosmos but it was created to point down, into the water, to look for the most “elusive”
fundamental particle called the neutrino. The Baikal neutrino detector in Siberia was the first of its kind, built in 1993. It made the
first ever detection of an atmospheric neutrino in 1994 and started working at full power in 1998.
The telescope has to be in as dark and deep a place as possible and more than a kilometer of water in Baikal’s clear abyss turned
out to be a perfect solution. With arrays of photomultiplier tubes, the NT-200 telescope resembles an octopus. Underwater, the
structure of 192 glass “balls” spans 42m in length and 70m in height. The tubes detect neutrinos by registering the intensity of
Cherenkov light - electromagnetic radiation emitted when a charged particle passes through a medium, for example, water or air,
at great speed.

read more at : [link to nightsky.jpl.nasa.gov]
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[link to www.omega.com]

doing a search for harmonic calibrators...came up with OMEGA engineering.....OMEGA where have I heard that name before?

<10:35>: So the calibrator sets a signal standard for a system that was already on board
<10:36>[Z]: yes, exactly
<10:36>[Z]: it has to be a standard
<10:36>: The calibrator then must test the organism directly in some way
<10:36>[Z]: and certified
<10:36>: yes
<10:36>[Z]: yes, I would think it measures the frequency and then adjusts to it
<10:37>[Z]: probably like a RIFE*of sorts
<10:37>: The signal frequency?
<10:37>: signal from space?
<10:37>[Z]: the freq of the organism
<10:38>: OOOhh.. nasty
<10:38>[Z]: measure it and then adjust the calibrator
<10:38>: Like they do to test subjects to alter mind and thought maybe?
<10:38>[Z]: problem is..the org could be gaining intelligence so fast it might not matter about the calibrators


Acoustic calibrators also

[link to www.casellausa.com]

[link to www.bing.com]

[link to www.clarion.org]


[link to www.rigzone.com]

anyway, more random thoughts...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680963



Omega agency
[link to www.google.nl]
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Does everyone understand that Wiki is not 100% correct all the time? It is a consensus information site, veiled as an encyclopedia.

The fact that Google searches bring wiki results in the top 5 should point to who wants you to read that info, in that manner.

Remember ANYONE can write a wiki page, and anyone can change it. But most dont bother to.

Example - The wiki page on Libya showed that the rebels had their own central bank and seperate parliament 2 days in to the conflict...... and no-one corrected it, or said anything about it. (I did!)

So, in my view, wiki is a source of popular revision. It is always the popular view of an event or info byte. Never just base your research on wiki, and dont prove wiki right by following their links!

Just because a million people read the same info, does not make that info correct, but I am sure that is how they want it to go down.

[another definition of the Bezerker should include questioning the truth, once you have supposedly found it]
It's all about the 'vibe'
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What I get the total shits with, and this is in regards to the original closed off research group, is that information was discussed and agreed upon regarding certain things, way back then, and to this day - with the benefit of some one in the know, who had other persons in the know interpreting information as well. (GF)

So agreement on a particular point then allows the next point to be understood, and so on, instead of swimming around in circles. Eventually it becomes instinctive as to what 'holes' get filled in in the jigsaw puzzle.

For nearly a year the question was asked about calibrators.

That little snippet MzK, turns the calibrator issue on its head in my opinion.

The consensus here I believe is that the calibrators were used to contain the organism.

But from what I read above, they are simply mimicking the frequencies from space and amplifying them.

So its more a case of "here, boy, here boy!!" and making the organism come towards the vessel. Thus being able to guide where it goes.

Control it.

There is a difference between containing and controlling. One is a defensive action, the other offensive.

Last Edited by BadHairDay on 04/23/2011 09:24 PM
It's all about the 'vibe'
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Happy Easter(love the ears BHD) to everyone. have a very good day one and all..no matter what your particular beliefs..Seize the day, make it 100% yours with which to enjoy your loved ones..I wish each and every Bezerker a day filled with sunshine and laughter.

Especially to Acolyte, w/o whom this thread would never have happened, who made it possible for a worldwide circle of people to come together and become friends..I will never be able to fully express my appreciation for you having given us that opportunity...breezy

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Krispy, very interesting links!

Why, I wonder, does the trail lead to old posts? 2005 for the Diablo and 2009 for the Champions Online Mission Census.

Krispy, I've got another couple of links for you, both to the same page, but you'll notice the cached version has a little somethin' somethin'.

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

[link to www.isuzone.org]

Specifically, look at post #51 where malachi mentions Godzilla (not surprising as the thread is about the earthquake in Japan). But the cached version also shows him quoting GooberGrape:
"I haven't been around the zone long, but I've already picked up that Modesto's style of hot body is different from most people's ;)"

What's more, the comment by GooberGrape that malachi quoted is nowhere to be found on the current pages in that thread.

Maybe GG mistakenly put his comment on the wrong thread and went back to remove it when he realized. But then wouldn't the original spot show an empty comment box with an edit notation? I guess it depends on the forum software.

Anyway, I thought it was odd.
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...

So Cherenkov must be an other gamersname in Diablo, and not the scientist Cherenkov, who died 15 years before GG posted his words.
 Quoting: Krispy71


Yes, I think he means Count Cherenkov, referred to in this post:
[link to diablo.incgamers.com]

Anyways, on the D2 front, I started an IK barb with the help of Spook_Cell who kept everything I gave him before I quitted. So now I've got my full IK set ready to kick some arses... in quite a while though. I got to beat Radament with him, at lvl 19, and that's about it.

I started myself a game in Shadowrun, such a great game. Also, I finally was able, after a month of stuggling, to beat Commander Cherenkov in Xenosaga, so I'm quite happy. :clap:


Just out of curiosity, I looked up Xenosaga. I think the series must have been developed by GLPers. lol (Really they are games developed in Japan.)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and the predecessor:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Coincidentally, look at what shows up on the Xenogears page:

"...that the gear then went berserk" (in the series, gear refers to giant robots)
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What I get the total shits with, and this is in regards to the original closed off research group, is that information was discussed and agreed upon regarding certain things, way back then, and to this day - with the benefit of some one in the know, who had other persons in the know interpreting information as well. (GF)

So agreement on a particular point then allows the next point to be understood, and so on, instead of swimming around in circles. Eventually it becomes instinctive as to what 'holes' get filled in in the jigsaw puzzle.

For nearly a year the question was asked about calibrators.

That little snippet MzK, turns the calibrator issue on its head in my opinion.

The consensus here I believe is that the calibrators were used to contain the organism.

But from what I read above, they are simply mimicking the frequencies from space and amplifying them.

So its more a case of "here, boy, here boy!!" and making the organism come towards the vessel. Thus being able to guide where it goes.

Control it.

There is a difference between containing and controlling. One is a defensive action, the other offensive.
 Quoting: BadHairDay



Hi BHD

I had a different take on it, and I don't know for sure which one may be more correct, yours or mine.

I was thinki9ng that it was a interference frequency to sort of 'spoil the milk' and force it backk into containment
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

-Men in Black
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"who let the dogs out"

rken
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Happy Easter everyone!
I came across this news today...
WTF...Did CERN experiments caused it???

BLACK HOLE ON EARTH?
[link to www.space.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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hör auf damit!Everybody. This is Bezerker s. It does not matter where it came from. True someone should have given credit for the parts taken from other sites. But for the Bezerk thread, WHAT MATTERS IS THAT THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION. We are here to discuss the issues. Research, by its very nature requires that material be drawn from many outside sources
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Good points, both BHD and HouseDad..

With the frequencies you could get:
* Amplification/augmenting the original signal,
* Counter-phase, so 'dulling' the signal (rather directional),
* Phase-blocking - jamming the information,
* Noise - to reduce the information received,
* Confusion - which source is correct

And maybe a LOT more possibilities, we can just question and seek more answers..

hf

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