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This is zoomed in so that you can see HIP 66600 has a mass next to it (the blue dot) that oddly, you cannot click on in Stellarium. The other four bodies around it you can click on for info, but only the one at the top has another HIP 666_ _ number on it. The rest give some general info, however this blue dot there is nothing.


Thread: i think ii finally found some shill worthy attention content about this "Comet". Should not disappoint.

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****** Sheena entered room. ******
Sheena: hi, isis, could you insert the link for the new berzerk thread?



Thread: BINUCLEATE EXTREME Z ENERGY REGULATED KINASE = BEZERK
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Thank you :), now you made me happy!



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Hi from OZ, John. You mentioned an orbiting platform that produces skin for submarines and also aircraft.

What is the skin you mention? What are its properties?
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Below is a drawing I made of what d.d (pronounced dee dot dee)
looks like. It has muti-colored dots all over.

The one property that I know it has is that when energy is applied to d.d, as on a destroyer, battleship, aircraft carrier etc or submarine, it repels the water proportionally to the power.

When a submarine (or any craft) turns on the d.d the water is repeled from the skin and eleminates almost all of the drag. That is why they can achieve speeds in excess of 125 knots.

After a cruise the ship must be degaussed by wrapping a huge grounded chain around it.

The old formula of 1.34 times the square root of the waterline no longer applies to maximum hull speed.

[link to imageshack.us]


Also, have you ever come across information pertaining to the infection of the World's oil supplies, possibly nano based? Furthering that, can this infected oil make it thru the refining process in to plastics etc?

Thank you.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


No, I have not.

All the best to you and your family.
 Quoting: BadHairDay

It's all about the 'vibe'
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NASA detected the most powerful Superflare at Great Crab Nebula video

The Great Crab Nebula Superflare
There are strange goings-on in the Crab Nebula. On April 12, 2011, NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope detected the most powerful in a series of gamma-ray flares occurring somewhere within the supernova remnant.

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Thread: NASA detected the most powerful Superflare at Great Crab Nebula video

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not completed

2 sons separated by time and space at a time in the future to be reunited. A star will appear in the heavens to announce the new birth (reunion) and the magi will know it as a sign and attend the birth.

two halves brought together to make a whole.

as above so below.

i tell you know so you believe me.

a completed work. sole mates found. brings unity and balance.
at a time in the future.

wake up thoughts. Needed to share.

As the reunion approaches signs will be seen, as the effects of the union approaches. moving closer to being in the same time and space frame. rken
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Nibiru has a different TIME experience then we do, 1 cycle for them is 1 year... for us many thousands ...

The sun which Nibiru travels around is the twin of our sun ... smaller and darker (a brown dwarf).

What will happen when those 2 timelines of Nibiru and Earth come togetter ????
It is almost impossible to imagine for us.

But according to CHANI we dont have to worry : sole mates found + brings unity and balance

This text from CHANI supports for me the thoughts and feelings that the comming encounter will be BENEFICIAL,
and that NO BAD ET'S will succeed in a conquest ...
coz the Silent Elders are the ET's from an other cycle that stayed here on (under/beneath) earth > according to Aco, and I agree in that completely. They are the FORCE and POWER behind TPTB ... they are one of the BAD ALIENS still here amongst us.
They experienced a different time-experience, thats why they are so old, they dont seem to age ... and thats why some (hybrid) humans could live so long in the eyes of normal people.


This is zoomed in so that you can see HIP 66600 has a mass next to it (the blue dot) that oddly, you cannot click on in Stellarium. The other four bodies around it you can click on for info, but only the one at the top has another HIP 666_ _ number on it. The rest give some general info, however this blue dot there is nothing.


Thread: i think ii finally found some shill worthy attention content about this "Comet". Should not disappoint.

rken
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WOWWWWWW Rken !!!

[link to www.glendeen.com]
with the text :
HIP 666000 is a DOUBLE STAR and there is anything similar to nebula around the system.




(Why do I have to think about Canned EGG's ...lol... )

xxMzK
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Hi from OZ, John. You mentioned an orbiting platform that produces skin for submarines and also aircraft.

What is the skin you mention? What are its properties?
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Below is a drawing I made of what d.d (pronounced dee dot dee)
looks like. It has muti-colored dots all over.

The one property that I know it has is that when energy is applied to d.d, as on a destroyer, battleship, aircraft carrier etc or submarine, it repels the water proportionally to the power.

When a submarine (or any craft) turns on the d.d the water is repeled from the skin and eleminates almost all of the drag. That is why they can achieve speeds in excess of 125 knots.

After a cruise the ship must be degaussed by wrapping a huge grounded chain around it.

The old formula of 1.34 times the square root of the waterline no longer applies to maximum hull speed.

[link to imageshack.us]


Also, have you ever come across information pertaining to the infection of the World's oil supplies, possibly nano based? Furthering that, can this infected oil make it thru the refining process in to plastics etc?

Thank you.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


No, I have not.

All the best to you and your family.
 Quoting: BadHairDay

 Quoting: johnlear


Good job BHD !!!

flowas
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Wonder if only US subs have this covering? Does this skin and its properties, when viewed in context of reverse emp devices being employed by the Chinese, help to draw out ALL power from the sub perhaps? [HMS Astute]

Could this also be the source of the huge amounts of magnetic radiation experienced by the subs? Either early deployment by the Chinese, or interaction with the organism? The communication burst(s) either way between organism and home base interacting with these skins?

The general consensus was the skins were special in regards to anti radar and sonar, but as Lear indicates, the energy applied to the skin may create additional characteristics.

Would also lend some credence to the 'speeds' we worked out and - laughed at - regarding deployments.

Also, the d.d is ringing some bells for me, from really early discussions from the journals. Maybe its just d.e.d? I am sure there was something else.

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It's all about the 'vibe'
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NASA detected the most powerful Superflare at Great Crab Nebula video

The Great Crab Nebula Superflare
There are strange goings-on in the Crab Nebula. On April 12, 2011, NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope detected the most powerful in a series of gamma-ray flares occurring somewhere within the supernova remnant.

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Thread: NASA detected the most powerful Superflare at Great Crab Nebula video

rken
 Quoting: rken 1380098


Verrrrrrrrry interresting !!!

watched this vid too :
The Great Crab Nebula Superflare
[link to www.nasa.gov]

These anomalous big flares are happening since 2009 !

Quote from voice:
"Gamma-Rays most likely arise from electrons moving near speed of light, which emits G-R's when they interact with magnetic fields."

Think about the Ribbon ... electric and MAGNETIC ...

Next quote:
"To account for these flares the electrons must have the highest energy ever seen in cosmic sources. 100 times brighter then can be achieved in any particle-accelerator on Earth."

Again .. the fluffy is the factor that cauzes these "never seen before" events. It is a cathaclist.
So it is for events happening and transformations occuring on earth.
Thats why more protons and neutrino's and G-R's are measured, and unforseen things happen to matter.

Imo it will play a key-position (synchron with others) in the shift we will make. A spacecial (lol) event is in progress.



Tnx Rken !
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I have been wondering how chani fit in. It would seem that he is speaking of a time "worlds in collision". And as they draw close in time and space the effects on each other will become more evident. Not sure if what we are seeing in elenin is the second sun or just the messenger and our sister sun has yet to make an appearance in our space/time continuum but its effects are being felt. As we talked about before to many things are being effected by elenin for it to be just an asteroid. It would not have enough mass. But if something was either right behind it or just beginning to manifest in the same area of space, then things would begin to make sense. rken
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Hello and good morning all,

For any and all who wish to discuss all things bezerk, I have created a BEZERK Room in Voice Chat independent of all the multiple threads which pertain to this subject.

Welcome:

[link to chat.godlikeproductions.com]
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Although I did excuse myself, I would like apologize to those you who were unable to awaited my return.

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Wonder if only US subs have this covering? Does this skin and its properties, when viewed in context of reverse emp devices being employed by the Chinese, help to draw out ALL power from the sub perhaps? [HMS Astute]

Could this also be the source of the huge amounts of magnetic radiation experienced by the subs? Either early deployment by the Chinese, or interaction with the organism? The communication burst(s) either way between organism and home base interacting with these skins?

The general consensus was the skins were special in regards to anti radar and sonar, but as Lear indicates, the energy applied to the skin may create additional characteristics.

Would also lend some credence to the 'speeds' we worked out and - laughed at - regarding deployments.

Also, the d.d is ringing some bells for me, from really early discussions from the journals. Maybe its just d.e.d? I am sure there was something else.
 Quoting: BadHairDay



Hi BHD,

good observation and question regarding D.D or DED ...
The morse code for E = . (dot)


dance


I think that many countries or nations have their own coating, but based on the same principles.

And as we know : any point of strenght inhibits a point of weakness ! Every giant has an achilles spot ;) So yes maybe the chinese figured this out and constructed a technology bases on that achilles. I would say : very clever.

But an other thought arises regarding nuclear-energy powered facilities and machines ... I dont say the Chines are doing THIS, coz they themselves had problems and incidents on that area too. I would rather carefully sugest that this is an action that could be related to those/maybe aliens that want us to stop using nuclear energy. Maybe they foresee or know that in the near future (besides EQ's) approaching energies could be(come) a cathaclist in such technology, making it eighter unusual or dangerous for Earth and inhabitants.
(I dont know for sure, just wild speculation here at the moment ... so dont kill me for it ..lol..)

What IS interresting in that is the fact that right now, right at the top of our nuclear civilisation, the neutrino bursts are heavier (coz of fluffy ribbon ??) and influencing accelerating the radioactive decay of elements ... Isnt that a reallll big coincedence ?????
The alignment with the galactic center will allow also even more neutrino-streams, as will the fluffy be a cathaclist, and a possible super-nova burst also ...
yes a lot of GR's will reach earth, but a big leap ahead will arrive these neutrino-waves. The Earth will experience a hugggggge increase in decay > wich in my eyes is not a bad thing, its a great thing !
Could these super-neutrino's play a part in the instable conditions in nuclear reactors ?????

(Attention: I dont say that Fukishama happend coz of neutrino's ! No ! In my opinion that was a tactical punishment from TPTB for Japan hooking up with China after the opening of the briefcases.)



Now back to one of your questions BHD :
"Could this also be the source of the huge amounts of magnetic radiation experienced by the subs?"

>> Well my thoughts are moved back to my pervious post that was a reply to Rken about what happened in the Crab-nebula.
The line that rings bells is :
Electrons moving near the speed of light create GR's. Electrons emit Gamma-Ray's WHEN THEY INTERACT WITH MAGNETIC FIELDS.

What surrounds the subs IS A MAGNETIC FIELD.

Also, we discussed the increased levels of magnetisations in the GOM. (One of the factors in that could be the extra addition of IRON-elements in the corexit and other chemicals to feed and support Synthia). Further, we dont have a real clue if and in what quantity the calibrators were making use of electrical or magnetical fields in their attemt to influence the intelligent oil ...

We know that "splashzones" are zones where particles (neutrons) hit the water or land and create cherencov-radiation (Aco's words).

To quote Squiddy : Gulfer asked what a splashzone was, and Squiddy replied : " It is a point on Earth where energy is entering our reality to facillitate a change in the Earth."
>> Where (huge amounths of) neutrino's enter the Earth-matter and this timeframe (= our reality = important) to facilliate a change ...
Energies ... not AUgie (organism).

So my take on it (the subs) is that energies from space, i.e. neutrino's, electrons, and GR's etc, are creating anomalies in the magnetical fields. And that the additional adding of iron-elements in the GOM-waters is enhancing certain things too. (hence the "flocking" of iron particles to the hull of the subs. Iron and nanotech (Synthia + food)being atracted to the subs magnetical field of the hull.

Synthia + food = not the same as AUgie.
Intelligent Oil = the oil that has been injected for many years with natural and artificial bacteria and nanotechnology, to play a factor in the GAIN and easier collection/capturing/refining/etc ...
THESE, all these injected bacteria's and artificials and nano's are now creating HAVOC to the fuels used by airplanes and other vehicles. Not AUgie.


Besides that more bacteria were created and injected by HUMANS/scientists to support the greed-hunger of some,
mother Nature has, imo, also activated her arsenal of bacteria to fight these unnatural human injections, as well as the galactic changes comming and occuring. Bacteria are of great use in cleaning up, and only some of them in messing-up. The neutrino-particles are aiding in decay .. so are Mother Earth's troops : helping with the decay of dead material.
the artificial and unnatural injections triggered a re-action ... just like our own human body RE-ACTS on INVADERS, by increasing the amounths of healthy bacteria to fight the wrong bacteria. = Micro/macro, i.e. human living being/Earth living being.
The scientists injected and infected Earths BLOOD, and she is reacting on that, like (to quote BHD) a lymph-system.
What we call AUgie could also be the white-crystaline-bloodcells .. the White-Crystal-Knights to fight the dark energies that infected our body and minds, our blood.


(sorry I got carried away ..lol..)


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In your above post, you state that the decay rate is speeding up due to nutrinos. I was just researching that very aspect of the decay rates. Do you have a link to that info. If not it is ok I will continue to search. All I have found so far is one report that would tend to indicate the opposite but its a marginal report at best.

If it is true then this could spell an end for all nuclear reactors on the planet include atomic bombs. Now wouldn't that break your heart. I have suspected something like this would happen or already is beginning, but have been lacking the proof. There fore my search. thanks rken
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Below is a drawing I made of what d.d (pronounced dee dot dee)
looks like. It has muti-colored dots all over.

The one property that I know it has is that when energy is applied to d.d, as on a destroyer, battleship, aircraft carrier etc or submarine, it repels the water proportionally to the power.

When a submarine (or any craft) turns on the d.d the water is repeled from the skin and eleminates almost all of the drag. That is why they can achieve speeds in excess of 125 knots.

After a cruise the ship must be degaussed by wrapping a huge grounded chain around it.

The old formula of 1.34 times the square root of the waterline no longer applies to maximum hull speed.

[link to imageshack.us]


...


No, I have not.

All the best to you and your family.
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 Quoting: johnlear


Good job BHD !!!

flowas
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Yes BHD, thanks for posting. There is a comfort zone in this post on two levels.

First, that may be no nano-contamination of fuels and other hydrocarbons, and

Second, that if there is such contamination, then it has not yet spread widely enough to be of great notice, thus giving more time to research and deal with the issue.
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Also, nice info with description of d . d which explains the speed of the (South African?) submarine which scooted so fast into the Gulf last summer.
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some interesting reading on radioactive decay


On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare
[link to www.symmetrymagazine.org]

Althought it would seem that solar activity actually slows the decay rate according to this article and others like it that I have found. Perhaps it would effect the radioactive output of nuclear materials making them inoperable. So it would seem the more nutrinos release, if that is the culprit, the slower the decay rate. hmmmm What are the implications of something like this. more research I think would be in order.

found article that talks about 3 ways to change the decay rate of radioactive materials.

[link to www.dinosaurc14ages.com]

Check this out

Radioactive isotope half-lives can be decreased to neutralize nuclear waste and weapons. This phenomenon can be accomplished by using equipment available since the late 1800’s and this technique has been known for the past 40 years. Incorporating this technique can result in vast financial savings, solve the current insurmountable environmental problems of radioactive waste storage and ensure this planet a future free from the threat of deadly nuclear radiation contamination.

[link to www.gdr.org]

more same source

The earth is a negative charged (positive charged for electrical engineers) orb traveling in space with an associated magnetic field. The earth has a surplus of electrons and varies in voltage potential to the ionosphere by 300,000 to 400,000 volts (some times more or less) with respect to the ionosphere. The steady loss of electrons from the earth is called ionic current and amounts to about 9 micro amps per square mile of the earth’s surface. The entire earth’s surface and the ionosphere is the oppositely-charged plates of a vast capacitor with the air between them acting as a rather inferior insulator, for it leaks continuously. This ionic current can be rather variable due to many influencing conditions that exist over time. Electrical storms can locally increase the electrical potential many times over the so called normal value. Additionally the magnetic field can vary over the earth’s surface. These various earth conditions cause the decay rate of radioactive isotopes to vary over the earth’s surface and over eons of time. Once one realizes that this is the case, then the next step is to vary certain environmental conditions specifically on an isotope that one would prefer to exhibit an increase in half-life or a decrease in half-life. All that can easily be done.

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MzK: "(Attention: I dont say that Fukishama happend coz of neutrino's ! No ! In my opinion that was a tactical punishment from TPTB for Japan hooking up with China after the opening of the briefcases.)"


I'm no expert on Japanese-Chinese affairs, but from the little I know and have dealt with, it is very unlikely that the Japanese and Chinese would ever pair up in partnership.

No offense is meant by the following statement which is my interpretation of these two cultures:

The Japanese are extreme racists against other orientals, and

The Chinese hate the Japanese.

American experience in Okinawa during WWII showed that the Japanese treated these intelligent people as dogs.

I just don't go along with the idea of "Japan hooking up with China..."
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I have been wondering how chani fit in. It would seem that he is speaking of a time "worlds in collision". And as they draw close in time and space the effects on each other will become more evident. Not sure if what we are seeing in elenin is the second sun or just the messenger and our sister sun has yet to make an appearance in our space/time continuum but its effects are being felt. As we talked about before to many things are being effected by elenin for it to be just an asteroid. It would not have enough mass. But if something was either right behind it or just beginning to manifest in the same area of space, then things would begin to make sense. rken
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YES Rken :D

* Worlds in collision
"worlds in collision" can be seen in many perspectives :
- When the mass of planet-X/ect will interact with our plane of existance.

- the origional alien world -home world- of the Ancient Annunaki that stayed behind in the next cycle, which are called Silent Elders by Aco ... "in collision" ... with our home-world The Earth coz she is going to make a jump that is not beneficial to these Fallen Angels.
They tried to make OUR world , to create our reality to their needs and wishes. But that is not our natural state, which cauzes a collision also with the ones who are waking up, and are being activated by the call of the Univers.

- the second sun and the planet/planetoide Nibiru are experiencing an other time-experience (1 year to them are many thousands of years to us). Their REALITY is different then our at Earth. And might be even an other dimentional reality ... The approach of those celestial body's create a collision in time and matter and space/dimention ...

- Worlds in collision could also refer to the "stayed-behind aliens/Annunaki's" (fallen angels) and the origional race that moved on.
Like I suggested before many times in this thread, I think that the ones who proceeded the natural path of procession and processes have MOVED ON on many levels too. They evolved to different beings that understand the importance of unity (instead of divisions for greed & feed). They understood that free-will also involves responsability to micro&macro and everything inbetween that.

In a previous cycle, you can read up in many myths, werent the "Homers" happy with the ones who experimented here. Also then : worlds in collision, but becoz the law of free-will it was allowed.
The ones who stayed (Silent Elders) stayed also in their origional vibrational state, and also kept it that way by creating groups of humans and hybrids who preformed rituals to maintain a certain level of vibration in which they could exist. This is the main reason why the Silent Elders and their ELE-ite are soooo afraid of change and of altering evoluting energies. Evolution means that they will loose control and power over their slaves, who will become masters themselves when the shift happens and all will be within reach to remember/see/feel/live the truth.
The "Homers" experienced also the natural influences of the Univers and (with a high propability) changed accordingly.
That is why CHANI could speak of a reunion of souls and the union of 2 parts with beneficial outcome.
They are part of our solarsystem, they are our SOLAR-system brothers and sisters, our family. And the genetic injections of vareous species of aliens extended our family-bonds even more. We are their binucleate's.


* BEZERK
WE ARE THEIR BINUCLEATE !
2 cells part of eachoter, 2 suns, 2 words (theirs + ours)
We incorperate many alien strains/proteins/material, with ALL OF THEM we have a BINUCLEATE relationship !


EXTREME Z ENERGY :
extreme energy that Z ... zero's ... neutralises ...
Like AC Canada mentioned correctly, Z-particles (protons, bursts, rays, etc) all have a neutral energy which (like HD correctly answered) affects SPIN or (breezy) momentum.

Also see my post here : Thread: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine (Page 1244)

I think this EZE could also correlate with what happens when the rotation (spin) of the Earths core comes to a halt and after a stop proceeds spinning the other way around.
The allignment and released photons,neutrons etc will aid in this proces, just like the fluffy ribbon is aiding in that and the increase of neutrino's from super-nova's (bettelgeuze and the crab-nebula).
ALL fits in !!!!

REGULATED KINASE :
has to do with the effects on our proteins and DNA/RNA.
And are responsable for transmitting SIGNALS, and control processes in cells.

the REGULATING SIGNAL is a natural signal from the synchronity of many events occuring in this part of the galaxy.


Wiki:
"One of the largest groups of kinases are protein kinases, which act on and modify the activity of specific proteins. Kinases are used extensively to transmit signals and control complex processes in cells. Up to 518 different kinases have been identified in humans. The enormous diversity, as well as their role in signaling, makes them an object of study.

Various other kinases act on small molecules such as lipids, carbohydrates, amino acids, and nucleotides, either for signaling or to prime them for metabolic pathway."





* CHANI
I have not yet figured out myself in how much or what way I believe and should see CHANI.
Strange is that IT stoped/transmissions/communication was stopped after new technology was updated.
If I would have been in their shoes, I would have created the origional state of machine again before the update, and restore contact....
And in what way did the collective brain and consciousness of the resaerchers/participants influenced to outcome ? Specially coz Aco said that with their experiment here on GLP non of the posters came up with questions that were not asked. Maybe CHANI was just a translator of the Akasha-knowledge ... communicating all that was in our collective energy-field (past-present-future).
I have to think on this more ...lol...


xxx MzK
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In your above post, you state that the decay rate is speeding up due to nutrinos. I was just researching that very aspect of the decay rates. Do you have a link to that info. If not it is ok I will continue to search. All I have found so far is one report that would tend to indicate the opposite but its a marginal report at best.

If it is true then this could spell an end for all nuclear reactors on the planet include atomic bombs. Now wouldn't that break your heart. I have suspected something like this would happen or already is beginning, but have been lacking the proof. There fore my search. thanks rken
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Hi Rken,
This will answer your question ;)



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Terrifying Scientific discovery

It’s already been proven that the sun’s mass warps time, bends light waves and accounts for mutation of species on Earth. Now this new force may be directly interacting with matter in a way that could not only change Mankind’s understanding of physics, but change Mankind itself…and not necessarily in a beneficial way.

[link to www.projectworldawareness.com]
 Quoting: rken


You gotta love how the scientific world or Nasa or others, everytime come up with something NEW, dangerous to us, something EXOTIC, dark matter, phantom energy etc ...lol...
Everything to try to fit that new thing into their old stone-age closet ...

Emissions form the sun and the stars have ALWAYS mutated or shanged/interfered with all matter on this planet.
It is soooo NORMAL, but the scientists almost all think changes happen over thousands of years ... nothing is less true, the most changes happened very/rather quicly.

It is not more then normal that since we are now traveling in an area that has never been documented before to exist, things change.


Sweet Rken, you posted about "programming" some posts above ... weel THIS ARTICLE my friend is the ultimate (fear)programming !

Everything that doesnt fit in their street, that is doom and dangerous. But isnt it not more then logical that the sun, hence I bet even the Earth and we, are emitting things that she/we had never before to our collection of memmory. We are changing densities, dimensions ... particles change ... logical.


Laboratories around the globe have confirmed that the rate of radioactive decay—once thought to be a constant and a bedrock of science—is no longer a constant. Something being emitted from the sun is interacting with matter in strange and unknown ways with the startling potential to dramatically change the nature of the very Earth itself.
 Quoting: article


The ONLY CONSTANT in the univers is CHANGE ! ...lol...
I posted about this topic before. It seems that it is related to a 33 (!) day cyclus and that it is winter and summer different.
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Its all about NEUTRINO's and nothing really strange or mysterious.
The whole solarsystem is changing, so are we and so is the sun.

The fact that the decay of radioactive elements is sped up is only a great discovery !!!! It does turn upsidedown all the scientific books and theories ..lol... and that is TERRIBLE and a DISASTER for them hahaha , they just found out that a big deal they depended on is/was wrong ... but this does not have to be cathastrophic for Earht and us at all. We all gonna die (leave this body), thats a fact .... and as we fight nature then we are going sooner, but if we align with it and try to understand whats really going on, then we are able to evolve with it and stay a bit longer too.

Worst of all, if the decay rates of matter are being mutated then all matter on Earth is being affected including the matter that makes up life.

The mutation may go so far as to change the underlying reality of the quantum universe—and by extrapolation-the nature of life, the principles of physics, perhaps even the uniform flow of time.

In fact, some evidence of time dilation has been gleaned from close observation of the decay rate. If particles interacting with the matter are not the cause—and matter is being affected by a new force of nature-then time itself may be speeding up and there’s no way to stop it.
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^^^ I guess the autor of this article never heared of changing dimensions before hahahaha ... Quantum-forces are becomming a more daily thing to us, yet we are still far from really understanding it all in connection to all.

I dont like the style of the autor of that article, The links that gave in my post before show less doom and more pure sec data. Better.

This was already detected back in 2006.




-snip quote article 1-


* Stanford Report, August 23, 2010
The strange case of solar flares and radioactive elements
[link to news.stanford.edu]

"Checking data collected at Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island and the Federal Physical and Technical Institute in Germany, they came across something even more surprising: long-term observation of the decay rate of silicon-32 and radium-226 seemed to show a small seasonal variation. The decay rate was ever so slightly faster in winter than in summer.

Was this fluctuation real, or was it merely a glitch in the equipment used to measure the decay, induced by the change of seasons, with the accompanying changes in temperature and humidity?

"Everyone thought it must be due to experimental mistakes, because we're all brought up to believe that decay rates are constant," Sturrock said.

The sun speaks
On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare.

If this apparent relationship between flares and decay rates proves true, it could lead to a method of predicting solar flares prior to their occurrence, which could help prevent damage to satellites and electric grids, as well as save the lives of astronauts in space.

...

Their findings strengthened the argument that the strange swings in decay rates were caused by neutrinos from the sun. The swings seemed to be in synch with the Earth's elliptical orbit, with the decay rates oscillating as the Earth came closer to the sun (where it would be exposed to more neutrinos) and then moving away.

...

Going back to take another look at the decay data from the Brookhaven lab, the researchers found a recurring pattern of 33 days. It was a bit of a surprise, given that most solar observations show a pattern of about 28 days – the rotation rate of the surface of the sun.

The explanation? The core of the sun – where nuclear reactions produce neutrinos – apparently spins more slowly than the surface we see.

All of the evidence points toward a conclusion that the sun is "communicating" with radioactive isotopes on Earth, said Fischbach.


...

If the mystery particle is not a neutrino, "It would have to be something we don't know about, an unknown particle that is also emitted by the sun and has this effect, and that would be even more remarkable," Sturrock said."



bump

>>> Now what could this mean for the radioactive particles released into the Earth now ? And their decay, while the sun is turning up its volume and array ????





-snipped a longggg part-




* ??? FUKUSHIMA & neutrino's ??? and the sun ???


IceCube In Ice Antarctic Telescope » Journals
[link to www.polartrec.net]

"This morning, Jim Madsen, physics professor and IceCube researcher from the University of Wisconsin-River Falls, arrived to the PolarTREC training. I and the other KSTF Fellows spoke with Jim at length about the project, including expectations and our roles as PolarTREC teachers. Jim enlightened us about the nature of neutrinos and how the IceCube detector works to detect them. We had a lot of questions for Jim about neutrinos and how we can study them!

...

Neutrinos can be created due to radioactive decay of elements like potassium. Nuclear reactors and bombs can create neutrinos; the sun and other stars create neutrinos. But these are "low" energy neutrinos, not what IceCube is trying to detect. IceCube is looking for high energy neutrinos created in "cataclysmic" galactic events, such as collisions of black holes and perhaps mysterious events called gamma-ray bursts."




>>> Could there be a reason for the troubles at the nuclear plants that we -simple people- do not understand,
and that is related to the changes in the sun ??

>>> What does more radioactive particles do to the sun FTE (Flux Transfer Event) ????
(maybe we could look towards changes in the sun before and after Chernobyl ... to understand a possible connection between Fukushims and the sun ...)

>>> And again : does all the saltmining fit into this ? Potassium mining ?

>>> ICECUBE ???? POLAR-TREC ???? .... This is NO coincedence !!!
Just a few posts back AC and BHD spoke about how and if ICE could store/contain frequencies !!! ICE-CUBE !!!!


"• On the extremely rare instance when a neutrino hits the nucleus of an atom, it ends up creating a new charged particle which flies through the ice at very high speeds. As this new particle moves though the ice, it causes a dim trail of light called "Cherenkov radiation."
this light is detected by hundreds of sensors buried deep in the ice. The scientists use data from the sensors to determine the energy of the original neutrino, and the direction from which it came."




Cherenkov radiation :
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"As a charged particle travels, it disrupts the local electromagnetic field (EM) in its medium. Electrons in the atoms of the medium will be displaced, and the atoms become polarized by the passing EM field of a charged particle. Photons are emitted as an insulator's electrons restore themselves to equilibrium after the disruption has passed. (In a conductor, the EM disruption can be restored without emitting a photon.) In normal circumstances, these photons destructively interfere with each other and no radiation is detected. However, when a disruption which travels faster than light is propagating through the medium, the photons constructively interfere and intensify the observed radiation."

>>> For a quick moment I had to think about OP's "splashzones" ....
This explains why the dont have to occur only in WATER, but also (assumably) happened in Greenland on the ICE, and on/in soil in OZ ... and potentially everywhere.


-snip text-


Cherenkov radiation can also be used to determine properties of high-energy astronomical objects that emit gamma rays, such as supernova remnants and blazars. This is done by projects such as STACEE, a gamma ray detector in New Mexico.

...

The most advanced type of a detector is the RICH, or ring imaging Cherenkov detector, developed in the 1980s. In a RICH detector, a cone of Cherenkov light is produced when a high speed charged particle traverses a suitable gaseous or liquid medium, often called radiator. This light cone is detected on a position sensitive planar photon detector, which allows reconstructing a ring or disc, the radius of which is a measure for the Cherenkov emission angle. Both focusing and proximity-focusing detectors are in use. In a focusing RICH detector, the photons are collected by a spherical mirror and focused onto the photon detector placed at the focal plane. The result is a circle with a radius independent of the emission point along the particle track. This scheme is suitable for low refractive index radiators—i.e. gases—due to the larger radiator length needed to create enough photons. In the more compact proximity-focusing design, a thin radiator volume emits a cone of Cherenkov light which traverses a small distance—the proximity gap—and is detected on the photon detector plane. The image is a ring of light, the radius of which is defined by the Cherenkov emission angle and the proximity gap. The ring thickness is determined by the thickness of the radiator. An example of a proximity gap RICH detector is the High Momentum Particle Identification Detector (HMPID),[5] a detector currently under construction for ALICE (A Large Ion Collider Experiment), one of the six experiments at the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) at CERN."




*INTERSTING:

PROJECT X :

SLAC to Leverage Accelerator Expertise for Project X
February 24, 2011
[link to today.slac.stanford.edu]

This month, SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory officially received a funding package of $400,000 from Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory for research and development on a radio-frequency power system for the proposed proton accelerator, Project X, at Fermilab.
...
The Project X facility would fuel two experiments: a high-intensity neutrino beam traveling more than 800 miles to a detector at the proposed Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory, and a proton beam that will support rare-decay experiments. Fermilab has officially formed the Project X Collaboration and has plans to apply for the first major step for any Department of Energy project, Critical Decision 0, to establish the scientific case to move the project forward.

((Located 45 miles west of Chicago, Fermilab's particle accelerator complex provides beam to particle physics experiments, test facilities and a cancer treatment center. The proposed Project X would replace the 40-year-old linear accelerator and booster ring.))






The possible potassium earth core:

* Taking a Picture of the Earth's Interior with Geoneutrinos
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

"Neutrinos are subatomic particles created in certain types of nuclear decays. These ghostly particles have no electric charge, a tiny but nonzero mass, and are very weakly interacting. A typical neutrino passes through matter unseen, unfelt, and unperturbed. Indeed, each second of the day and night, many billions of neutrinos pass through you harmlessly; these neutrinos originate mostly from the Sun, but also from the Earth's atmosphere, and from the interior of the Earth. These last "geoneutrinos" have received a great deal of attention lately, and open up new views onto the Earth.

Geoneutrinos are produced in the decays of unstable, radioactive elements--mostly uranium, thorium, and potassium (40K)--inside the Earth. These same decays also generate heat, which makes up some portion (thought to be about 60%) of the geothermal heat flow. The amount of geoneutrinos (and radioactive geothermal heat) depends on the amount of radioactive material through the Earth. We do know very well the amount and distribution of radioactive material in the Earth's thin crust. However, we have only "scratched the surface" of the Earth with direct measurements: the deepest probes that have been recovered from drill holes in the earth's crust come from a depth of only about 10 km, and volcanos bring up mantle material from a depth of a few hundred kilometers. So most of the earth's interior is hidden! Consequently, it remains unclear how much radioactive material is in the inside the bulk of the earth and where it is located. In particular, it is unclear how abundant radioactive elements are in the very core of the Earth. The standard geophysical prediction is that the core is void of all radioactivity. Recently, however, there have been some suggestions that there may be a significant amount of potassium in the Earth's core. These uncertainties about the Earth's radioactive content translate into uncertainties about the amount of geothermal heat and geoneutrinos that are generated by radioactive decays. Thus, measurements of geoneutrinos can address these questions and ultimately determine the nature of the radioactive earth.

Recently the Kamland experiment, which was primarily designed to measure anti-neutrinos from nuclear reactors, reported 9 events due to geoneutrinos. This marks the first detection of neutrinos from the Earth's interior, and already demonstrates that radioactivity is an important heat source for the Earth. This promising discovery gave rise to several papers about the possibilities a measurement of geoneutrinos could provide. "



>>> 9 EVENTS ??? again ...





With the information above, I now recap my questions :

>>> Now what could this mean for the radioactive particles released into the Earth now ? And their decay, while the sun is turning up its volume and array ????

>>> And what/how could those radioactivity eating mushrooms be related to this ?

>>> And how play all those CERN-labs into this, who are working with neutrino's and oscillations ? And the recent problems and fires in those labs ????



(Potassium cations are important in neuron (brain and nerve) function, and in influencing osmotic balance between cells and the interstitial fluid, (snip) creating an electrochemical gradient over the cell membrane.")

>>> What if that principal ^^^ would also occur in the Earth ???
Interresting !
We posted and talked about potassium just recently here on the thread .....
So, think BIG and connect body and Earth ...

(seems like it does in a way.... lol...)

>>> Could there be a reason for the troubles at the nuclear plants that we -simple people- do not understand,
and that is related to the changes in the sun ??

>>> What does more radioactive particles do to the sun FTE (Flux Transfer Event) ????
(maybe we could look towards changes in the sun before and after Chernobyl ... to understand a possible connection between Fukushims and the sun ...)

>>> And again : does all the saltmining fit into this ? Potassium mining ?


>>> For a quick moment I had to think about OP's "splashzones" ....
This explains why the dont have to occur only in WATER, but also (assumably) happened in Greenland on the ICE, and on/in soil in OZ ... and potentially everywhere.


I SAY bump



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Thanks Krispy for bringing those posts to my attention. rken
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! How did this make it back to the front page?
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The document may have been scanned and miss-read by OCR software which is prone to errors like this.
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Thank you for that explanation, fellowearthling.

I've never seen that before.
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some interesting reading on radioactive decay


On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare
[link to www.symmetrymagazine.org]

Althought it would seem that solar activity actually slows the decay rate according to this article and others like it that I have found. Perhaps it would effect the radioactive output of nuclear materials making them inoperable. So it would seem the more nutrinos release, if that is the culprit, the slower the decay rate. hmmmm What are the implications of something like this. more research I think would be in order.

found article that talks about 3 ways to change the decay rate of radioactive materials.

[link to www.dinosaurc14ages.com]

Check this out

Radioactive isotope half-lives can be decreased to neutralize nuclear waste and weapons. This phenomenon can be accomplished by using equipment available since the late 1800’s and this technique has been known for the past 40 years. Incorporating this technique can result in vast financial savings, solve the current insurmountable environmental problems of radioactive waste storage and ensure this planet a future free from the threat of deadly nuclear radiation contamination.

[link to www.gdr.org]

more same source

The earth is a negative charged (positive charged for electrical engineers) orb traveling in space with an associated magnetic field. The earth has a surplus of electrons and varies in voltage potential to the ionosphere by 300,000 to 400,000 volts (some times more or less) with respect to the ionosphere. The steady loss of electrons from the earth is called ionic current and amounts to about 9 micro amps per square mile of the earth’s surface. The entire earth’s surface and the ionosphere is the oppositely-charged plates of a vast capacitor with the air between them acting as a rather inferior insulator, for it leaks continuously. This ionic current can be rather variable due to many influencing conditions that exist over time. Electrical storms can locally increase the electrical potential many times over the so called normal value. Additionally the magnetic field can vary over the earth’s surface. These various earth conditions cause the decay rate of radioactive isotopes to vary over the earth’s surface and over eons of time. Once one realizes that this is the case, then the next step is to vary certain environmental conditions specifically on an isotope that one would prefer to exhibit an increase in half-life or a decrease in half-life. All that can easily be done.

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Hi Rken, yes I see the different opinions.




- 1 : (...) a shower of neutrinos could have accelerated rates of radioactive decay at some time in the past. ...
A few of these neutrinos interact with the nucleii of atoms, and could induce radioactive decay. But if there were many more of them, this could happen much more often, speeding up decay rates. We observe that there was a recent large release of energy that probably included huge numbers of neutrinos:

- That would mean gamma-ray bursts represent an energy release in a few seconds equivalent to the amount our Sun will emit in its entire ten-billion-year lifetime. (..)

One proposed explanation for the gamma ray bursts is colliding neutron stars. This might happen fairly often, since many stars are binary stars, and if both partners became neutron stars, there would be a pair of orbiting neutron stars. Then their passage through a supernova stage or magnetic or tidal interactions could disturb their orbits so that they would collide, or passage through a cloud of dust could have a similar effect.

Such events could accelerate radioactive decay rates, if they were not too far from the earth. Such events might also accelerate stellar development, if they are frequent enough.

If a supernova had something to do with the Flood, then the iridium layer found at the K-T boundary, when the dinosaurs died out, could represent material from this supernova that reached the earth some time afterwards, assuming that the Mesozoic deposits are post-Flood.

A problem with these scenarios is that any source near enough significantly to increase decay rates in this way, would probably emit enough heat and light energy to vaporize the earth, since only a small fraction of neutrinos interact with the earth, but all heat and light energy directed at the earth has an effect. However, it is possible that the heat, light, and radiation could be blocked by a dust cloud while the neutrinos could get through. Perhaps the heat, light, and radiation would be preferentially emitted in certain directions, largely missing the solar system. Also, there could be other kinds of events that emit more neutrinos and less heat and light. In addition, at the moment of creation, there could have been huge numbers of neutrinos emitted, which could have had a similar effect of speeding up decay rates and making the universe appear old very quickly.

[link to www.cs.unc.edu]


- 2 (...) The following comment by Wanser3, a creationist physicist, is significant: "Actually, it turns out that when you get the nucleus "excited", decay is going to be much quicker, making things look vastly "older". People have been talking recently about magnetic stars giving off big bursts of gamma rays; there are all sorts of ways that radiometric "clocks" could have been reset catastrophically, during the Flood, for example." In fact, when the nucleus gets excited, it takes time for it to settle down. This means that rates of decay may have been faster for some time after the Flood. Another mechanism for an increase in the decay rate is presented in Science by Stone.4 This article shows how interactions with elementary particles can cause decay rates to increase. One such particle is the neutrino. A recent result implies that neutrinos interact with matter much more readily than previously thought: "The results also show that another property of neutrinos, related to how they interact with matter, known as the mixing angle, must be large, rather than small, contrary to what physicists believed until quite recently."5 So radiation, possibly gamma radiation or possibly neutrinos, could have sped up decay rates.

But where would this radiation have come from? One possibility is a supernova. Many supernovae are known. The Crab Nebula is the remnant of a supernova explosion that was seen on Earth in 1054 AD. It is 6000 light years from Earth.

[link to www.tasc-creationscience.org]


- 3 "It is also interesting in this regard that beta decay creates an anti-neutrino. It could just as well occur by absorbing a neutrino, and thus an increase in the flux of neutrinos could increase the beta decay constants. The web site How to Change Nuclear Decay Rates mentions that electron capture invoves the emission of a neutrino, and so it might be stimulated by the absorption of an anti-neutrino. "

Different elements, different decay-rates:
"The same reaction would cause the decay of carbon 14, and might increase radiocarbon ages as well. However, since carbon 14 has such a short half life, and decays spontaneously relatively rapidly, the effect due to neutrinos may be smaller than for substances such as rubidium with very long half lives. This might explain why low carbon 14 ages are sometimes found in conjunction with lava flows having very old radiometric ages. By analogy with the effect of neutrinos on decay, anti-neutrinos could change a proton to a neutron, and thus contribute to the decay of potassium to argon, increasing K-Ar ages. Neutrinos, through the weak interaction, may be able to disturb nucleii slightly, and thus induce unstable nucleii to decay even by alpha decay. Neutrinos interact with matter through W+, W-, and Z bosons, which carry the weak force, and perhaps through an exchange of these particles with a proton or a neutron, a neutrino could perturb a nucleus without the identity of either particle being changed. Maybe the reason that too few solar neutrinos are observed is that most of them are absorbed in the sun and contribute to further radioactive decay there. Another possibility is that a change in the speed of light could influence decay constants."

[link to www.cs.unc.edu]


- 4
This, of course, is only true under the assumption that it's the neutrinos that are really causing the increase in radioactive decay. The article does mention that there were many unknowns in the measurements. It may be something else that causes this increase, or even a combination of two. It may also be the case that more neutrinos, the rate at which they're emitted, or other interacting fields alter the effect.

- 5 Different decays, some increase and some decrease :
Primordial Nucleosynthesis with a Decaying Tau Neutrino
[link to arxiv.org]

"A comprehensive study of the effect of an unstable tau neutrino on primordial nucleosynthesis is presented. The standard code for nucleosynthesis is modified to allow for a massive decaying tau neutrino whose daughter products include neutrinos, photons, $e^\pm$ pairs, and/or noninteracting (sterile) daughter products. Tau-neutrino decays influence primordial nucleosynthesis in three distinct ways: (i) the energy density of the decaying tau neutrino and its daughter products affect the expansion rate tending to increase $^4$He, D, and $^3$He production; (ii) electromagnetic (EM) decay products heat the EM plasma and dilute the baryon-to-photon ratio tending to decrease $^4$He production and increase D and $^3$He production; and (iii) electron neutrinos and antineutrinos produced by tau-neutrino decays increase the weak rates that govern the neutron-to-proton ratio, leading to decreased $^4$He production for short lifetimes ($\la 30\sec$) and masses less than about $10\MeV$ and increased $^4$He production for long lifetimes or large masses. The precise effect of a decaying tau neutrino on the yields of primordial nucleosynthesis and the mass-lifetime limits that follow depend crucially upon decay mode. We identify four generic decay modes that serve to bracket the wider range of possibilities: "


I think we will find links to both our posts, for evidence on decrease, and evidence of increase ...lol...

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I would tend to agree that it speeds up the release despite some reports to the contrary. Slowing down the rate seems counter intuitive to me. When you take all things into consideration. ie like what are nutrinos and how do effect and or interact with the environment under what conditions.

It would seem from what I have read this could have devistating effects on trying to control nuclear reactors and other radioactive materials.

It also coincides with my feelings about the elites and their attempts to hold on to power by control energy sources. And the subsequent need for a change. Which must happen. rken
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Steve Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:53 am

Per this article in Nature, 2000, the quantum anti-zeno effect has been experimentally verified to increase the rate of radioactive decay:
“Acceleration of quantum decay processes by frequent observations”:
[link to www.nature.com]

So, if neutrinos “observe” atomic nuclei, and the rate of neutrino observations changes appreciably, it isn’t a huge leap to assume that the rate of radioactive decay can change as a result of the quantum (anti) zeno effect. For this to occur, neutrinos don’t have to interact with atomic nuclei to such a degree that an electron, positron or muon is generated. The interaction only has to consist of a “measurement”.
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Isnt that interresting ? A measurement ?
A measurement is pointing awareness ... consciousness ...
Intent ...

The more we observe, the faster the decay ...
hmmmzzzz very interresting.


(just an other wild thought : could Zeno Efect, be part of the freeZE ~ ANTI-freeZE ???? scratching )
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Great work Krispy

I was really shocked when I came upon the reports suggesting that it slowed decay, I was really expecting the opposite. Thanks for the time in finding the article you did as all I was finding were superficial articles suggestion a slowing.

I guess its all in the googling. lol. You seem to have a knack for it. rken
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Steve Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:53 am

Per this article in Nature, 2000, the quantum anti-zeno effect has been experimentally verified to increase the rate of radioactive decay:
“Acceleration of quantum decay processes by frequent observations”:
[link to www.nature.com]

So, if neutrinos “observe” atomic nuclei, and the rate of neutrino observations changes appreciably, it isn’t a huge leap to assume that the rate of radioactive decay can change as a result of the quantum (anti) zeno effect. For this to occur, neutrinos don’t have to interact with atomic nuclei to such a degree that an electron, positron or muon is generated. The interaction only has to consist of a “measurement”.
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Isnt that interresting ? A measurement ?
A measurement is pointing awareness ... consciousness ...
Intent ...

The more we observe, the faster the decay ...
hmmmzzzz very interresting.


(just an other wild thought : could Zeno Efect, be part of the freeZE ~ ANTI-freeZE ???? scratching )
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I like that one. reminds me of the concept of double blind tests in science. there is no such things unless the scientist can remain completely neutral with no preconceived ideas. Other wise his very presence effects the outcome of the experiment. this was illustrated by the study of sub atomic particles by different cultures, which described different attributes to the same particle. I believe it was a Russian team vs. a US team of scientists. rken
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Steve Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:53 am

Per this article in Nature, 2000, the quantum anti-zeno effect has been experimentally verified to increase the rate of radioactive decay:
“Acceleration of quantum decay processes by frequent observations”:
[link to www.nature.com]

So, if neutrinos “observe” atomic nuclei, and the rate of neutrino observations changes appreciably, it isn’t a huge leap to assume that the rate of radioactive decay can change as a result of the quantum (anti) zeno effect. For this to occur, neutrinos don’t have to interact with atomic nuclei to such a degree that an electron, positron or muon is generated. The interaction only has to consist of a “measurement”.
 Quoting: Steve



Isnt that interresting ? A measurement ?
A measurement is pointing awareness ... consciousness ...
Intent ...

The more we observe, the faster the decay ...
hmmmzzzz very interresting.


(just an other wild thought : could Zeno Efect, be part of the freeZE ~ ANTI-freeZE ???? scratching )
 Quoting: Krispy71

I like that one. reminds me of the concept of double blind tests in science. there is no such things unless the scientist can remain completely neutral with no preconceived ideas. Other wise his very presence effects the outcome of the experiment. this was illustrated by the study of sub atomic particles by different cultures, which described different attributes to the same particle. I believe it was a Russian team vs. a US team of scientists. rken
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YES !!!!!
And it implicates a very strong power WE HUMANS could attribute to the decay increase or decrease.
To the harm or no harm, lethal or non-lethal ...
As you say again OUR THOUGHTS are THE KEY.

If we are afraid then we provoke a certain outcome,
if we are to positive, we also influence outcommes that might be not what would have happend if we were able to stay NEUTRAL, but are an image of our wishes.
If we could stay neutral, then the way of the univers would happen.

Like neutrino's and other particles/forces,
we with our mind can change SPIN and momentum ....

If something is put under attention of a mass public, then that will change the outcome ...
Gives you an other perspective on internet and forums just like GLP ... and organisations like think tanks ....
WE and how we think about a certain thing (like AUgie and the Chinese) will influence the worlds perception accordingly. What we "believe" is the truth will manifest like truth, even if it is an illusion.


xxMzK
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Steve Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:53 am

Per this article in Nature, 2000, the quantum anti-zeno effect has been experimentally verified to increase the rate of radioactive decay:
“Acceleration of quantum decay processes by frequent observations”:
[link to www.nature.com]

So, if neutrinos “observe” atomic nuclei, and the rate of neutrino observations changes appreciably, it isn’t a huge leap to assume that the rate of radioactive decay can change as a result of the quantum (anti) zeno effect. For this to occur, neutrinos don’t have to interact with atomic nuclei to such a degree that an electron, positron or muon is generated. The interaction only has to consist of a “measurement”.
 Quoting: Steve



Isnt that interresting ? A measurement ?
A measurement is pointing awareness ... consciousness ...
Intent ...

The more we observe, the faster the decay ...
hmmmzzzz very interresting.


(just an other wild thought : could Zeno Efect, be part of the freeZE ~ ANTI-freeZE ???? scratching )
 Quoting: Krispy71

I like that one. reminds me of the concept of double blind tests in science. there is no such things unless the scientist can remain completely neutral with no preconceived ideas. Other wise his very presence effects the outcome of the experiment. this was illustrated by the study of sub atomic particles by different cultures, which described different attributes to the same particle. I believe it was a Russian team vs. a US team of scientists. rken
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1380098


YES !!!!!
And it implicates a very strong power WE HUMANS could attribute to the decay increase or decrease.
To the harm or no harm, lethal or non-lethal ...
As you say again OUR THOUGHTS are THE KEY.

If we are afraid then we provoke a certain outcome,
if we are to positive, we also influence outcommes that might be not what would have happend if we were able to stay NEUTRAL, but are an image of our wishes.
If we could stay neutral, then the way of the univers would happen.

Like neutrino's and other particles/forces,
we with our mind can change SPIN and momentum ....

If something is put under attention of a mass public, then that will change the outcome ...
Gives you an other perspective on internet and forums just like GLP ... and organisations like think tanks ....
WE and how we think about a certain thing (like AUgie and the Chinese) will influence the worlds perception accordingly. What we "believe" is the truth will manifest like truth, even if it is an illusion.


xxMzK
 Quoting: Krispy71


Nice thoughts and I agree.

After all is said and done it would seem that we do indeed create the very substance of our realities. I can remember a time when I thought the world was flat. It would all appear to be a sales job. Who can sell what concept to most people in the world. Be still and know that you are god. Not an egotistical concept because in realizing it you also recognize everyone else is to. perhaps one day we will treat each other accordingly. rken

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