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Krispy71 User ID: 6761984 Netherlands 12/17/2011 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tnx Agapao and BHD/GHD :) Except for the 'Chin-part', I agree with BHD. Mother Nature is a balance symbiotic organism. We Humans are only a part in that big harmony of triggers and responses. I guess that Methane is needed -like BHD pointed out- in events to come and ongoing. It is a chemical needed in a transformation that is linked with the consistence [make up] of space that we are/Earth is traveling through, with the higher concentrations of neutrino's and gamma rays etc ... and with the nearing 2012 Galactic allignment. Of what I read in an article a few days ago, the melting of the ice is part in this cycle with the melting of the methane, it was said that cold freshwater form a kind of blanked on top of the rising methane in the salt water. It prevented a lot of the methane to surface and escape in the atmosphere. This is a balance-mechanism at work. In that same article it was said that special kinds of bacteria were eating the methane in normal conditions. I suggested that it might be needed to inject more of that kind of bacteria to area's that are now exponentionaly increasing the methane-release ... I only hoped that it would not be VENTER and his 'artificial franken-creations' that would be deployed .... I hope that in this case BHD could be right and that the Chinese are trying to regulate and control the methane-melt/release [not to have a to big melt at once] by boosting the populations of those bacteria in the arctic > that would be awsome !!!! All is about balance in regards to the needed elements in this transforming event, we want to survive and not to become almost extinct. If we wanna survive and trive, we have to work with Mother Earth and Nature, and not fight her. |
Krispy71 User ID: 6761984 Netherlands 12/17/2011 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the move? Scientists discover geothermal activity outside Yellowstone zone Quoting: Tauranga [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com] map [link to t0.gstatic.com] December 17, 2011 –Wyoming -Yellowstone National Park –NASA’s Landsat satellites have been tracking Yellowstone’s underground geothermal activity, a deep heat that is stored 4,000 miles into the earth’s core. But there are areas where these energy levels are becoming erratic. Old Faithful could be in trouble. The Landsat Program is jointly managed by NASA and the U.S. Geological Survey, beginning its services of remote sensing in 1972. It became part of the Yellowstone National Park’s new monitoring plan in 2005. In addition to remote sensing, Landsat also uses airborne reconnaissance in order to “observe geothermal changes across all of Yellowstone in a systematic and scientific manner.” (NASA) Up until recently, the heat coming from Yellowstone’s underground magma chamber has always been the fuel for over 10,000 of the volcano’s features: Old faithful, hot springs, geysers, mud spots, terraces and mud pots. But NASA is reporting that the Landsat imagery has picked up some unexpected developments outside the park’s borders, also picked up by energy companies beyond the park’s borders. “If that geothermal development outside of the park begins, we need to know whether that’s going to cause Old Faithful to suddenly stop spewing,” says Rick Lawrence of Montana State University. The Landsat satellite allows the scientists to recognize big changes occurring in the geothermal area, like Yellowstone. However, nobody knows what is happening or where due to the satellite’s large pixel size in its imagery. But clues are being found regarding the interconnection of the underground geothermal events. –Digital Journal Contribution by Luisport Wauwwww this is huge !!!!!!! This could be huge too : Thread: KATLA DOOOOM IS ON!! 230EQS THIS MORNING!!!! |
bug User ID: 1295673 United States 12/17/2011 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, as well. Tnx Agapao and BHD/GHD :) Quoting: Krispy71 Of what I read in an article a few days ago, the melting of the ice is part in this cycle with the melting of the methane, it was said that cold freshwater form a kind of blanked on top of the rising methane in the salt water. It prevented a lot of the methane to surface and escape in the atmosphere. This is a balance-mechanism at work. In that same article it was said that special kinds of bacteria were eating the methane in normal conditions. Very interesting. Any ideas on the physics of this? ~ |
bug User ID: 1295673 United States 12/17/2011 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the move? Scientists discover geothermal activity outside Yellowstone zone Quoting: Tauranga [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com] map [link to t0.gstatic.com] December 17, 2011 –Wyoming -Yellowstone National Park –NASA’s Landsat satellites have been tracking Yellowstone’s underground geothermal activity, a deep heat that is stored 4,000 miles into the earth’s core. But there are areas where these energy levels are becoming erratic. Old Faithful could be in trouble. The Landsat Program is jointly managed by NASA and the U.S. Geological Survey, beginning its services of remote sensing in 1972. It became part of the Yellowstone National Park’s new monitoring plan in 2005. In addition to remote sensing, Landsat also uses airborne reconnaissance in order to “observe geothermal changes across all of Yellowstone in a systematic and scientific manner.” (NASA) Up until recently, the heat coming from Yellowstone’s underground magma chamber has always been the fuel for over 10,000 of the volcano’s features: Old faithful, hot springs, geysers, mud spots, terraces and mud pots. But NASA is reporting that the Landsat imagery has picked up some unexpected developments outside the park’s borders, also picked up by energy companies beyond the park’s borders. “If that geothermal development outside of the park begins, we need to know whether that’s going to cause Old Faithful to suddenly stop spewing,” says Rick Lawrence of Montana State University. The Landsat satellite allows the scientists to recognize big changes occurring in the geothermal area, like Yellowstone. However, nobody knows what is happening or where due to the satellite’s large pixel size in its imagery. But clues are being found regarding the interconnection of the underground geothermal events. –Digital Journal Contribution by Luisport Wauwwww this is huge !!!!!!! This could be huge too : Thread: KATLA DOOOOM IS ON!! 230EQS THIS MORNING!!!! I was discussing the overdue super-eruption at Yellowstone the other day. The official spin on the heat anomalies is that the heat is spreading out therefore relieving pressure making the eruption a remote possibility for any time in the near future. I was skeptical of that obvious platitude-to-be. ~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1501341 Australia 12/18/2011 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From memory, that idea (some said was in progress) was to close off the GoM at its in and outlets, and create a super algae production plant across the entire GoM. Heating the water was a prerequisite, as was adding large amounts of certain chemicals, commonly found in Yellowstone geisers. |
Doobie User ID: 7291557 United Kingdom 12/18/2011 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just found this interesting, no idea if any connection, but odd nonetheless Thread: Strange nuclear waste lint might be "biological in nature" 'Strange nuclear waste 'lint'may be biological in nature.' Earth does not belong to man, man belongs to Earth |
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Krispy71 User ID: 6761984 Netherlands 12/19/2011 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just found this interesting, no idea if any connection, but odd nonetheless Quoting: Doobie Thread: Strange nuclear waste lint might be "biological in nature" 'Strange nuclear waste 'lint'may be biological in nature.' I was just about to post that too This is really BEZERK !!! snips from the article (found at C2C AM) [link to io9.com] -- Scientists at the Department of Energy's Savannah River Site — a nuclear reservation in South Carolina — have identified a strange, cob-web like "growth" (their word, not ours) on the racks of the facility's spent nuclear fuel assemblies. -- "the growth, which resembles a spider web, has yet to be characterized, but may be biological in nature." -- the "white, string-like" material was discovered amidst thousands of the spent fuel assemblies, which are submerged in deep nuclear storage pools within SRS's L Area Complex. -- The safety board's report claimed that the initial sample of the growth was too small to characterize, and that "further evaluation still needs to be completed." I don't know what's more intriguing — the fact that the "growth" resembles a spider web, the fact that it may be biological in nature, or the fact that (even after collecting a sample of the stuff) we still don't know what it is or where it came from. -- Could we be dealing with an unknown species of extremophile? -- the Savannah River Site's storage facility stores spent nuclear waste in pools that are anywhere from 17-30 feet deep, and while that water is enough to protect the site's workers from radiation, the growth was reportedly found underwater on the submerged fuel assemblies themselves This made me think about the Radioactive resistant FUNGUS in CHERNOBYL (discused here before) [link to www.foxnews.com] [link to journals.cambridge.org] Though this FUNGUS above is BLACK and not WHITE like the spides-web "growth" ... We could speculate if it is a manifestation of AUgie that we see here ... |
Krispy71 User ID: 6761984 Netherlands 12/19/2011 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interactions of heavy metals with white-rot fungi [link to www.sciencedirect.com] Maybe more research will learn us more about white fungus that is radioactivity resistant .... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7394168 United States 12/19/2011 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, as well. Quoting: bug 1295673 Tnx Agapao and BHD/GHD :) Quoting: Krispy71 Of what I read in an article a few days ago, the melting of the ice is part in this cycle with the melting of the methane, it was said that cold freshwater form a kind of blanked on top of the rising methane in the salt water. It prevented a lot of the methane to surface and escape in the atmosphere. This is a balance-mechanism at work. In that same article it was said that special kinds of bacteria were eating the methane in normal conditions. Very interesting. Any ideas on the physics of this? ~ similar to a thermal inversion that locks the smog in the city the upper and lower waters have different densities, and behave like two different materials [link to en.wikipedia.org] dr |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1501341 Australia 12/19/2011 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes DR they do, and within a given mass of sea water, there will be layers of fresh water too, even flowing rivers amongst the body. Way back in the 'middle' we talked about this layering, and it was openly mentioned by Aco' regarding controlling the organism's movement, later to be artificially controlled via. calibrators. Whales use the layering to communicate over vast distances, 'bouncing' sound waves in between layers. I still think the salt to Antarctica was to help out in the drilling in to lake Vostok. It was rumoured to be fresh water down there, not salt water due to its density. |
Isis7 User ID: 5931253 United States 12/19/2011 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posted on December 14th, 2011 - 10:30 AM But this year the most impressive “list” I’ve come across came out last week, when EPA and its partners from the National Institutes of Health and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced the compounds to be tested as part of the collaborative Tox21 research program over the next couple of years Only the list is slightly more robust than ten—it’s a 10,000 compound library. The library contains chemicals covering a wide variety of classifications, including chemicals found in industrial processes, consumer products, and food additives, as well as human and veterinary drugs. A large number of reference compounds are also included to give researchers access to different toxicological or disease endpoints, duplicate compounds for evaluating test methods, and a small set of chemical mixtures for a pilot study. “The Tox21 partnership integrates revolutionary advances in molecular biology, chemistry, and computer science to quickly and cost-effectively screen the thousands of chemicals in use today,” said Paul Anastas, Ph.D., the Assistant Administrator for EPA’s Office of Research and Development. more at source link: [link to blog.epa.gov] |
Hans The Magnificent User ID: 4601909 United States 12/20/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually ordinary water is not so ordinary after all.It changes heat transfer properties at certain temperatures, As it drops in temperature, it reduces in volume as any liquid does, until it freezes when it then expands. Unlike many liquids it does not become more viscous as it approaches its freezing point. Conversely, it will never raise past 100°C as it will just boil. Amazing properties for an amazing compound. And it is a key ingredient in beer, something which is enjoyed worldwide. Your unban request was denied. About the Avatar: It is Die Wasserturm (The Watertower)in Mannheim Germany a local landmark.I used to make wishes on it as a kid. It seems to come through for me still. Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort But Doctor: I drive too fast to worry about cholesterol. |
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Hans The Magnificent User ID: 4601909 United States 12/20/2011 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [Hey ma-man, how are ya? Would be nice to see this thread crack 1300 by 2012. Need some old school players to jump back on for a bit and post some stuff./] The problem being that most of the Old School Players are banned. Or got disgusted and went somewhere else. Last Edited by Hans The Magnificent on 12/20/2011 06:47 AM Your unban request was denied. About the Avatar: It is Die Wasserturm (The Watertower)in Mannheim Germany a local landmark.I used to make wishes on it as a kid. It seems to come through for me still. Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort But Doctor: I drive too fast to worry about cholesterol. |
Krispy71 User ID: 6761984 Netherlands 12/20/2011 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heya Hans , BHD and DR Great postings !!!! Yep, lets hit that 1300 - Tnx DR for giving that accurate info about the layers. Thats exactly how the article described it too :D Great ! - Tnx BHD for the remainder of that info. Yes I remember us discussing that stuff. - Tnx Isis, great posts too ! Keep m comming :D |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7433660 United States 12/20/2011 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does anyone know what supercritical fluid is? I wrote a paper on it 2 years ago, trying to get the company I no longer work for (GE) to do some experiments with CO2 water outside its critical point can be used for some , well, very interesting things [link to en.wikipedia.org] Supercritical water oxidation: Supercritical water oxidation uses supercritical water as a medium in which to oxidize hazardous waste, eliminating production of toxic combustion products that burning can produce. The waste product to be oxidised is dissolved in the supercritical water along with molecular oxygen (or an oxidising agent that gives up oxygen upon decomposition, e.g. Hydrogen Peroxide) at which point the oxidation reaction occurs. this may be the weapon being used on augie ~660k @ ~100000000 pa thats ~386 C @ 14,500 psi if you have ever worked in the measurement industry, those are not extreme numbers most oil field tools go to ~40,000 psi and 1000F (~500C) ultrasonics could easily produce high temps and increasing the density of a fluid increases the pressure at the bottom I know all this because I worked in calibration labs for 30+ years, and I personally believe, from observational data that all current phase science is critically flawed. dr |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7433660 United States 12/20/2011 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the term calibrators could be being used is because a critical relationship between temp and pressure must be maintained calibrators could be nothing more than a means to measure the temp and pressure. now the world leader in measurement tools for extreme uses is a company called schlumberger, out of france, with massive world wide presence. so, now let us digress and remember it was deepwater horizon that originally brought us here very good article here: [link to www.picassodreams.com] "On May 19th Reuters ran a story about employees of Shlumberger leaving the rig of the Deepwater Horizon the very same day of the catastrophe." "So, if Schlumberger had not even publicly acknowledged being there until speaking with Reuters, it strongly suggests that the people discussing this information in the days prior to the Reuters article did have some information that the rest of us do not." a bit of food fot thought..... dr |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7438416 United States 12/20/2011 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now, for a brief ramble on my own theory of phases of matter in the begining we were taught there were 3 phases of matter liquid, solid, and gas controled by pressure or temp then plasma was added, which is defined here [link to en.wikipedia.org] if you notice, the definition starts to sound more like a catchall of basicly "its when not a solid, liquid or gas", and now they start using the terms charged particles aka energy why is charge omitted in our basic phases? does it suddenly happen? obviously not (recently it was found rainwater actually has a charge) now, has anyone ever seen an enthalpy/phase chart [link to en.wikipedia.org] I believe that these are poor because they omit charge, which I believe, is because we have not properly defined temp. Think about the temp/heat/transfer relationship my personal opinion is that phases of matter could be defined much better if we used pressure, temp, charge/energy, and a changing "constant" that I have termed "rotation" (for lack a a fancier term), then map the numbers in 3d. this would give us a chart that looks more like a 4 sided die (D&D anyone...lol) then each phase would be a side of the die. the closer to an edge changes the matter more towards the phase on the next side now, you may ask, where does this get us? first the periodic table would become obsolete, as every atom AND molecule could be defined in 4 vectors each would be IMHO unique now, if "residual background energy" on earth increased it could cause physical changes in matter its self... the question is how much energy causes a change? with matter charted like I said, it could be accurately predicted now we have found out that solar flares may change radiation half life, so possibly maybe not as much as one would think. now, how much energy would be required to change your DNA? radiation does, thats what cause cancers, as does the sun. I don't know, but I am always left with more questions than answers. and for the record, I am building a phase study bench in my shop to study this stuff (I can go to 40,000 psi, and 300-500F, and have 2 window cells good to 10,000 psi) I just have to get my house remodeling done first or my wife will kill me...lol thanks for the space to ramble, feel free to debunk...lol dr |
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Isis7 User ID: 5931253 United States 12/20/2011 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Metal undergoes novel transition under extreme pressure Under extreme pressures and temperatures, one of the main metals of the Earth's interior has exhibited a never-before-seen transition. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] |
Isis7 User ID: 5931253 United States 12/20/2011 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On this first article, I had no more than finished commenting to my aide this very same response and how it reminded me of the article I posted earlier this month... Comet Lovejoy's Survival snip please check the link, so little was posted that I'm concerned about staying within the guidelines. Sorry:( edit to ask about this first statement: Kreutz mentioned frozen, and (or giant snowball). How could the water survive the heat of the Sun and not vaporize? It did form a new tail though. hmmm Just like to hear what others think on this. The comet survived because of the larger electromagnetic charge on it compared to smaller comets heading toward the sun(Kreutz Comets). The charge is + and is repelled by the + charge of the sun's surface. [link to www.allvoices.com] Wow, just wow. It felt good that someone else had the same thoughts that I did. lol I also read the comet will be seen from the northern hemisphere later in January. So, in keeping with the spirit of the holiday season, here are some more articles about the birthday comet, each offering a variety of information. COMET LOVEJOY IN THE MORNING: Noted astronomer John Bortle urges observers (especially in the southern hemisphere) to "begin searching for Comet Lovejoy's bright tail projecting up out of the morning twilight beginning at dawn. The tails of some of the major sungrazing comets have been extraordinarily bright. snip UPDATE: This morning in New Zealand, Minoru Yoneto photographed the ghostly tail of Comet Lovejoy shining through the twilight: [link to spaceweather.com] Comet Lovejoy Plunges into the Sun and Survives [link to science.nasa.gov] Surprising Comet Lovejoy Now Becoming Merry and Bright [link to www.universetoday.com] And, for those who enjoy the sounds of the holiday, I kind of liked these. In one song, someone whistles for a short time, and when I heard that, it suddenly took me back to my childhood when my father would whistle to tunes or as he worked. Happiness to all:) Xmas music [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by Isis7 on 12/20/2011 11:42 PM |
Krispy71 User ID: 6761984 Netherlands 12/20/2011 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the term calibrators could be being used is because a critical relationship between temp and pressure must be maintained Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7433660 calibrators could be nothing more than a means to measure the temp and pressure. now the world leader in measurement tools for extreme uses is a company called schlumberger, out of france, with massive world wide presence. so, now let us digress and remember it was deepwater horizon that originally brought us here very good article here: [link to www.picassodreams.com] "On May 19th Reuters ran a story about employees of Shlumberger leaving the rig of the Deepwater Horizon the very same day of the catastrophe." "So, if Schlumberger had not even publicly acknowledged being there until speaking with Reuters, it strongly suggests that the people discussing this information in the days prior to the Reuters article did have some information that the rest of us do not." a bit of food fot thought..... dr AWWWWWSOME !!!! DR, do you think that critical water has been deployed or used in Japan and their reactors ? |
Krispy71 User ID: 6761984 Netherlands 12/20/2011 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | --snip-- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7438416 if you notice, the definition starts to sound more like a catchall of basicly "its when not a solid, liquid or gas", and now they start using the terms charged particles aka energy why is charge omitted in our basic phases? does it suddenly happen? obviously not (recently it was found rainwater actually has a charge) I think that EVERYTHING has CHARGE. Becoz of charge it is visable or detectable. Everything that has trans-formed into a STATE, are charged molecules in a formation, creating an other charge, and again and again ... Atoms, cells, organs, biologic walking vessel or plant or stone etc.. are all stages of charge. And thats why [with NASA-technology] it is possible to read the charge of organs and parts of your body, and learn if they are healthy or not. now, has anyone ever seen an enthalpy/phase chart Quoting: dr[link to en.wikipedia.org] I believe that these are poor because they omit charge, which I believe, is because we have not properly defined temp. Think about the temp/heat/transfer relationship my personal opinion is that phases of matter could be defined much better if we used pressure, temp, charge/energy, and a changing "constant" that I have termed "rotation" (for lack a a fancier term), then map the numbers in 3d. this would give us a chart that looks more like a 4 sided die (D&D anyone...lol) then each phase would be a side of the die. the closer to an edge changes the matter more towards the phase on the next side now, you may ask, where does this get us? first the periodic table would become obsolete, as every atom AND molecule could be defined in 4 vectors each would be IMHO unique Interresting :) now, if "residual background energy" on earth increased it could cause physical changes in matter its self... Quoting: drthe question is how much energy causes a change? Every bit of energy that is outside a specific range .. outside the box that the subject can handle .. changes the subject. with matter charted like I said, it could be accurately predicted Quoting: drnow we have found out that solar flares may change radiation half life, so possibly maybe not as much as one would think. now, how much energy would be required to change your DNA? radiation does, thats what cause cancers, as does the sun. As for lifeforms using CONSIOUNESS, this is an important 'thing' that determines wheter the lifeform's DNA will change and in what rate and outcome. Then we have the Consiousness ala person, and the Consiousness ala whole/grid/morphogenetic field. This field enables other lifeforms also to up-grade/de-grade. If we believe that the sun cauzes canser, the rate of people develloping canser will be higher then of people who believe the sun is healing coz it is increasing our amount of MELANIN [Melanin and Melatonin balance is important] which protects against radiation (think about radiation-triving-high'melanin-fungi in Chernobyl) ... It is only logical that the overload on energy [in multiple states of matter and phases] are needed in this Galactic Event that is taking place. If we would not have been where we are now (fluffy, ribbon, galactic cloud, allignment, etc ..) then we would have long 'failed' under the same circumstances, then we would have been burned-out/overloaded. But this is not the case and the extra energy is converted into multiple events and happenings on multiple levels of existance [in our body's, in technology, in geo changes, thermal changes/volcano's, mental changes, etc ..] At this point of our trip there is no exes, no charge, that is not used by Earth or the Solarsystem. I don't know, but I am always left with more questions than answers. and for the record, I am building a phase study bench in my shop to study this stuff (I can go to 40,000 psi, and 300-500F, and have 2 window cells good to 10,000 psi) I just have to get my house remodeling done first or my wife will kill me...lol Quoting: drthanks for the space to ramble, feel free to debunk...lol dr ..lol.. Goodluck ;) Your rambles are great ! keep m comming ! Last Edited by Krispy71 on 12/20/2011 07:22 PM |
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